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  #1  
Old August 23rd 05, 08:06 AM
TheRealFastlane
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Default I GIVE UP

Other than suggesting it may be a graphics problem I have not gotten
any assistance with these bsod's and they have got to go.
I reinstalled 2 different GeForce cards, the Voodoo and the onboard
i810 (not necessarily in that order) and the bsod's persist.
The bsod's began months after any graphics change (installed a Voodoo
card over onboard i810).

OS is HP WinMe, can I install MS upgrade Me over this and retain my
installed programs and configuration ? if so, how ?
Thanks

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  #2  
Old August 23rd 05, 07:49 PM
Rick T
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TheRealFastlane wrote:
Other than suggesting it may be a graphics problem I have not gotten
any assistance with these bsod's and they have got to go.
I reinstalled 2 different GeForce cards, the Voodoo and the onboard
i810 (not necessarily in that order) and the bsod's persist.
The bsod's began months after any graphics change (installed a Voodoo
card over onboard i810).

OS is HP WinMe, can I install MS upgrade Me over this and retain my
installed programs and configuration ? if so, how ?
Thanks


Fast evaluation on zero info is one of your cards have become unseated
because you keep changing graphics cards, or a bad chunk of RAM.

When do the BSOD's happen and what is the error message ? Ensure your
system BIOS is set up properly for whatever graphics solution you
currently have installed... that includes "Primary VGA" setting as well
as "disable/enable onboard graphics" setting.



"HP WinME" is the same as plain-old "WinME", if you plan on doing a
Refresh Install, why not use your original media.


Rick
  #3  
Old August 24th 05, 02:25 AM
TheRealFastlane
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On Tue, 23 Aug 2005 14:49:28 -0400, Rick T
wrote:

TheRealFastlane wrote:
Other than suggesting it may be a graphics problem I have not gotten
any assistance with these bsod's and they have got to go.
I reinstalled 2 different GeForce cards, the Voodoo and the onboard
i810 (not necessarily in that order) and the bsod's persist.
The bsod's began months after any graphics change (installed a Voodoo
card over onboard i810).

OS is HP WinMe, can I install MS upgrade Me over this and retain my
installed programs and configuration ? if so, how ?
Thanks


Fast evaluation on zero info is one of your cards have become unseated
because you keep changing graphics cards, or a bad chunk of RAM.

When do the BSOD's happen and what is the error message ? Ensure your
system BIOS is set up properly for whatever graphics solution you
currently have installed... that includes "Primary VGA" setting as well
as "disable/enable onboard graphics" setting.



"HP WinME" is the same as plain-old "WinME", if you plan on doing a
Refresh Install, why not use your original media.


Rick

System
HP pavilion 6735, 512M (2x256), Celeron 633Mhz, onboard i810 (HP
description - Integrated Intel® Direct AGP 3D graphics), NEC FP1350X,
no AV (on demand only) no firewall, not networked, dialup.

Quick History
Early April 05, installed a 3dfx Voodoo3/2000 to reduce shared system
ram (256M-11± for vid). System insisted on installing a second display
adapter (onboard i810) which I eventually fixed by installing it as
2nd instance of the 3dfx (worked fine).
Early May 05, upgraded to 512M ram.
Mid-late July 05, Uninstalled IE, reverted to 6.0.xx SP1 with 2 or 3
Q's then ran a windows update. Not immediately but shortly after this
is when the bsod's began.

--------------------------------------------------------------------
Bsod on (nearly every) start or restart
"FileName: vfat(01) + 00006AD5 Error: 0E : 0028 : C0045195"
--------------------------------------------------------------------

Cannot 3 finger from this screen, must press another key(s) then
quickly 3 finger else screen returns to the desktop which is like
800x480 (stretched vertically). Cannot access taskbar with mouse,
cannot 3finger, Ctrl-S/Ctrl-Esc do not activate the start button.
Alt-F4 brings up start/restart dialog box which does nothing.
Cold start, select 2 (bootlog), splash screen then black screen with
blinking cursor in home position but drive activity stops and keyboard
dont repond (num/capslock lites dont toggle). Repeat until eventually
starts.

--------------------------------------------------------------------
Bsod at no specific point after getting restarted but "usually"
if/when I attempt to run Diablo2 or Bejeweled Deluxe2.
"FileName: vmcpd(01) + 0000061C Error: 0D : 0028 : C0056F28"
--------------------------------------------------------------------

Early Aug, tried SR to end of July, no affect, SR to about 25 July, no
affect. Have added device=*vfat and device=*vmcpd to system.ini
[enh386] block, no affect.

Since been numerous scanreg /restore or /fix, best case scenario so
far, disable second display adapter, after vfat bsod, boot dos,
scanreg /fix, bootlog, bootlog again (windows complains, failed to
start last try), scandisk, regclean, pray.

Have Everest, Sisoft, and/or hijackthis if wanted/needed.
Not attempting to be argumentative but HP windows is not "the same" as
MS, it is similar is a valid statement.

Thanks

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  #4  
Old August 24th 05, 02:53 AM
Rick T
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Shouldn't be anything more useful in Full or Upgrade WinME compared to
HP's version, at least for the HP system(s) it was built for. More
convenient in some respects, certainly.

As mentioned, your on-board video should be disabled in the System BIOS
if you're using a discrete card. While you're in there may as well set
Shared Memory to zero, and look for a "Primary VGA Adapter" to set to
whatever. Then go back into DeviceManager and rip out the obsoleted
entries.

If you get around to it, reseat the cards in your box.

0e 0028's are most commonly graphics-related errors (and occasionally
network)


Rick

TheRealFastlane wrote:
On Tue, 23 Aug 2005 14:49:28 -0400, Rick T
wrote:


TheRealFastlane wrote:

Other than suggesting it may be a graphics problem I have not gotten
any assistance with these bsod's and they have got to go.
I reinstalled 2 different GeForce cards, the Voodoo and the onboard
i810 (not necessarily in that order) and the bsod's persist.
The bsod's began months after any graphics change (installed a Voodoo
card over onboard i810).

OS is HP WinMe, can I install MS upgrade Me over this and retain my
installed programs and configuration ? if so, how ?
Thanks


Fast evaluation on zero info is one of your cards have become unseated
because you keep changing graphics cards, or a bad chunk of RAM.

When do the BSOD's happen and what is the error message ? Ensure your
system BIOS is set up properly for whatever graphics solution you
currently have installed... that includes "Primary VGA" setting as well
as "disable/enable onboard graphics" setting.



"HP WinME" is the same as plain-old "WinME", if you plan on doing a
Refresh Install, why not use your original media.


Rick


System
HP pavilion 6735, 512M (2x256), Celeron 633Mhz, onboard i810 (HP
description - Integrated Intel® Direct AGP 3D graphics), NEC FP1350X,
no AV (on demand only) no firewall, not networked, dialup.

Quick History
Early April 05, installed a 3dfx Voodoo3/2000 to reduce shared system
ram (256M-11± for vid). System insisted on installing a second display
adapter (onboard i810) which I eventually fixed by installing it as
2nd instance of the 3dfx (worked fine).
Early May 05, upgraded to 512M ram.
Mid-late July 05, Uninstalled IE, reverted to 6.0.xx SP1 with 2 or 3
Q's then ran a windows update. Not immediately but shortly after this
is when the bsod's began.

--------------------------------------------------------------------
Bsod on (nearly every) start or restart
"FileName: vfat(01) + 00006AD5 Error: 0E : 0028 : C0045195"
--------------------------------------------------------------------

Cannot 3 finger from this screen, must press another key(s) then
quickly 3 finger else screen returns to the desktop which is like
800x480 (stretched vertically). Cannot access taskbar with mouse,
cannot 3finger, Ctrl-S/Ctrl-Esc do not activate the start button.
Alt-F4 brings up start/restart dialog box which does nothing.
Cold start, select 2 (bootlog), splash screen then black screen with
blinking cursor in home position but drive activity stops and keyboard
dont repond (num/capslock lites dont toggle). Repeat until eventually
starts.

--------------------------------------------------------------------
Bsod at no specific point after getting restarted but "usually"
if/when I attempt to run Diablo2 or Bejeweled Deluxe2.
"FileName: vmcpd(01) + 0000061C Error: 0D : 0028 : C0056F28"
--------------------------------------------------------------------

Early Aug, tried SR to end of July, no affect, SR to about 25 July, no
affect. Have added device=*vfat and device=*vmcpd to system.ini
[enh386] block, no affect.

Since been numerous scanreg /restore or /fix, best case scenario so
far, disable second display adapter, after vfat bsod, boot dos,
scanreg /fix, bootlog, bootlog again (windows complains, failed to
start last try), scandisk, regclean, pray.

Have Everest, Sisoft, and/or hijackthis if wanted/needed.
Not attempting to be argumentative but HP windows is not "the same" as
MS, it is similar is a valid statement.

Thanks

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  #5  
Old August 24th 05, 04:21 AM
TheRealFastlane
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Only video setting in bios is AGP or PCI and the machine will run only
when PCI is selected even when using the onboard adapter.
Nothing for shared memory and PCI has settings for shadow rom,
busmaster and timeslice (different term used in bios).
Have two different sets of instructions from 2 different HP techs for
installing pci in this model/version and neither of them maatch what
actually happens. Numerous user questions about disabling onboard when
installing different brand/model video cards in the HP support forums
but never a definitive answer, at least for this series pavilion.

Soooo guess I'll backup what aint replaceable and go with the MS
upgrade ME.
Should I disable system restore before running setup from the CD ?
Should I run setup from the root or windows folder on the CD ?
Any other suggestions regarding this install ?
Thanks

On Tue, 23 Aug 2005 21:53:34 -0400, Rick T
wrote:

Shouldn't be anything more useful in Full or Upgrade WinME compared to
HP's version, at least for the HP system(s) it was built for. More
convenient in some respects, certainly.

As mentioned, your on-board video should be disabled in the System BIOS
if you're using a discrete card. While you're in there may as well set
Shared Memory to zero, and look for a "Primary VGA Adapter" to set to
whatever. Then go back into DeviceManager and rip out the obsoleted
entries.

If you get around to it, reseat the cards in your box.

0e 0028's are most commonly graphics-related errors (and occasionally
network)


Rick

TheRealFastlane wrote:
On Tue, 23 Aug 2005 14:49:28 -0400, Rick T
wrote:


TheRealFastlane wrote:

Other than suggesting it may be a graphics problem I have not gotten
any assistance with these bsod's and they have got to go.
I reinstalled 2 different GeForce cards, the Voodoo and the onboard
i810 (not necessarily in that order) and the bsod's persist.
The bsod's began months after any graphics change (installed a Voodoo
card over onboard i810).

OS is HP WinMe, can I install MS upgrade Me over this and retain my
installed programs and configuration ? if so, how ?
Thanks

Fast evaluation on zero info is one of your cards have become unseated
because you keep changing graphics cards, or a bad chunk of RAM.

When do the BSOD's happen and what is the error message ? Ensure your
system BIOS is set up properly for whatever graphics solution you
currently have installed... that includes "Primary VGA" setting as well
as "disable/enable onboard graphics" setting.



"HP WinME" is the same as plain-old "WinME", if you plan on doing a
Refresh Install, why not use your original media.


Rick


System
HP pavilion 6735, 512M (2x256), Celeron 633Mhz, onboard i810 (HP
description - Integrated Intel® Direct AGP 3D graphics), NEC FP1350X,
no AV (on demand only) no firewall, not networked, dialup.

Quick History
Early April 05, installed a 3dfx Voodoo3/2000 to reduce shared system
ram (256M-11± for vid). System insisted on installing a second display
adapter (onboard i810) which I eventually fixed by installing it as
2nd instance of the 3dfx (worked fine).
Early May 05, upgraded to 512M ram.
Mid-late July 05, Uninstalled IE, reverted to 6.0.xx SP1 with 2 or 3
Q's then ran a windows update. Not immediately but shortly after this
is when the bsod's began.

--------------------------------------------------------------------
Bsod on (nearly every) start or restart
"FileName: vfat(01) + 00006AD5 Error: 0E : 0028 : C0045195"
--------------------------------------------------------------------

Cannot 3 finger from this screen, must press another key(s) then
quickly 3 finger else screen returns to the desktop which is like
800x480 (stretched vertically). Cannot access taskbar with mouse,
cannot 3finger, Ctrl-S/Ctrl-Esc do not activate the start button.
Alt-F4 brings up start/restart dialog box which does nothing.
Cold start, select 2 (bootlog), splash screen then black screen with
blinking cursor in home position but drive activity stops and keyboard
dont repond (num/capslock lites dont toggle). Repeat until eventually
starts.

--------------------------------------------------------------------
Bsod at no specific point after getting restarted but "usually"
if/when I attempt to run Diablo2 or Bejeweled Deluxe2.
"FileName: vmcpd(01) + 0000061C Error: 0D : 0028 : C0056F28"
--------------------------------------------------------------------

Early Aug, tried SR to end of July, no affect, SR to about 25 July, no
affect. Have added device=*vfat and device=*vmcpd to system.ini
[enh386] block, no affect.

Since been numerous scanreg /restore or /fix, best case scenario so
far, disable second display adapter, after vfat bsod, boot dos,
scanreg /fix, bootlog, bootlog again (windows complains, failed to
start last try), scandisk, regclean, pray.

Have Everest, Sisoft, and/or hijackthis if wanted/needed.
Not attempting to be argumentative but HP windows is not "the same" as
MS, it is similar is a valid statement.

Thanks

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  #6  
Old August 24th 05, 10:24 AM
Rick T
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for the i810, AGP would be the on-board, PCI the discrete.

Settings should be in Advanced tab.

There are a number of updates including BIOS on HP's site; I'd suggest
taking advantage of them prior to any OS changing.


Rick


TheRealFastlane wrote:
Only video setting in bios is AGP or PCI and the machine will run only
when PCI is selected even when using the onboard adapter.
Nothing for shared memory and PCI has settings for shadow rom,
busmaster and timeslice (different term used in bios).
Have two different sets of instructions from 2 different HP techs for
installing pci in this model/version and neither of them maatch what
actually happens. Numerous user questions about disabling onboard when
installing different brand/model video cards in the HP support forums
but never a definitive answer, at least for this series pavilion.

Soooo guess I'll backup what aint replaceable and go with the MS
upgrade ME.
Should I disable system restore before running setup from the CD ?
Should I run setup from the root or windows folder on the CD ?
Any other suggestions regarding this install ?
Thanks

On Tue, 23 Aug 2005 21:53:34 -0400, Rick T
wrote:


Shouldn't be anything more useful in Full or Upgrade WinME compared to
HP's version, at least for the HP system(s) it was built for. More
convenient in some respects, certainly.

As mentioned, your on-board video should be disabled in the System BIOS
if you're using a discrete card. While you're in there may as well set
Shared Memory to zero, and look for a "Primary VGA Adapter" to set to
whatever. Then go back into DeviceManager and rip out the obsoleted
entries.

If you get around to it, reseat the cards in your box.

0e 0028's are most commonly graphics-related errors (and occasionally
network)


Rick

TheRealFastlane wrote:

On Tue, 23 Aug 2005 14:49:28 -0400, Rick T
wrote:



TheRealFastlane wrote:


Other than suggesting it may be a graphics problem I have not gotten
any assistance with these bsod's and they have got to go.
I reinstalled 2 different GeForce cards, the Voodoo and the onboard
i810 (not necessarily in that order) and the bsod's persist.
The bsod's began months after any graphics change (installed a Voodoo
card over onboard i810).

OS is HP WinMe, can I install MS upgrade Me over this and retain my
installed programs and configuration ? if so, how ?
Thanks

Fast evaluation on zero info is one of your cards have become unseated
because you keep changing graphics cards, or a bad chunk of RAM.

When do the BSOD's happen and what is the error message ? Ensure your
system BIOS is set up properly for whatever graphics solution you
currently have installed... that includes "Primary VGA" setting as well
as "disable/enable onboard graphics" setting.



"HP WinME" is the same as plain-old "WinME", if you plan on doing a
Refresh Install, why not use your original media.


Rick

System
HP pavilion 6735, 512M (2x256), Celeron 633Mhz, onboard i810 (HP
description - Integrated Intel® Direct AGP 3D graphics), NEC FP1350X,
no AV (on demand only) no firewall, not networked, dialup.

Quick History
Early April 05, installed a 3dfx Voodoo3/2000 to reduce shared system
ram (256M-11± for vid). System insisted on installing a second display
adapter (onboard i810) which I eventually fixed by installing it as
2nd instance of the 3dfx (worked fine).
Early May 05, upgraded to 512M ram.
Mid-late July 05, Uninstalled IE, reverted to 6.0.xx SP1 with 2 or 3
Q's then ran a windows update. Not immediately but shortly after this
is when the bsod's began.

--------------------------------------------------------------------
Bsod on (nearly every) start or restart
"FileName: vfat(01) + 00006AD5 Error: 0E : 0028 : C0045195"
--------------------------------------------------------------------

Cannot 3 finger from this screen, must press another key(s) then
quickly 3 finger else screen returns to the desktop which is like
800x480 (stretched vertically). Cannot access taskbar with mouse,
cannot 3finger, Ctrl-S/Ctrl-Esc do not activate the start button.
Alt-F4 brings up start/restart dialog box which does nothing.
Cold start, select 2 (bootlog), splash screen then black screen with
blinking cursor in home position but drive activity stops and keyboard
dont repond (num/capslock lites dont toggle). Repeat until eventually
starts.

--------------------------------------------------------------------
Bsod at no specific point after getting restarted but "usually"
if/when I attempt to run Diablo2 or Bejeweled Deluxe2.
"FileName: vmcpd(01) + 0000061C Error: 0D : 0028 : C0056F28"
--------------------------------------------------------------------

Early Aug, tried SR to end of July, no affect, SR to about 25 July, no
affect. Have added device=*vfat and device=*vmcpd to system.ini
[enh386] block, no affect.

Since been numerous scanreg /restore or /fix, best case scenario so
far, disable second display adapter, after vfat bsod, boot dos,
scanreg /fix, bootlog, bootlog again (windows complains, failed to
start last try), scandisk, regclean, pray.

Have Everest, Sisoft, and/or hijackthis if wanted/needed.
Not attempting to be argumentative but HP windows is not "the same" as
MS, it is similar is a valid statement.

Thanks

-- Keyboard not detected
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  #7  
Old August 25th 05, 02:10 PM
TheRealFastlane
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Thats what I thought too however the agp must have to do with
something else becausee when I did try it (long before trying a pci
card) I was locked out and had to do a cmos reset to get back in.
As for bios upgrades there is only one for this board and the
fix description lists nothing relative to this problem.
Thanks for trying

On Wed, 24 Aug 2005 05:24:23 -0400, Rick T
wrote:

for the i810, AGP would be the on-board, PCI the discrete.

Settings should be in Advanced tab.

There are a number of updates including BIOS on HP's site; I'd suggest
taking advantage of them prior to any OS changing.


Rick


TheRealFastlane wrote:
Only video setting in bios is AGP or PCI and the machine will run only
when PCI is selected even when using the onboard adapter.
Nothing for shared memory and PCI has settings for shadow rom,
busmaster and timeslice (different term used in bios).
Have two different sets of instructions from 2 different HP techs for
installing pci in this model/version and neither of them maatch what
actually happens. Numerous user questions about disabling onboard when
installing different brand/model video cards in the HP support forums
but never a definitive answer, at least for this series pavilion.

Soooo guess I'll backup what aint replaceable and go with the MS
upgrade ME.
Should I disable system restore before running setup from the CD ?
Should I run setup from the root or windows folder on the CD ?
Any other suggestions regarding this install ?
Thanks

On Tue, 23 Aug 2005 21:53:34 -0400, Rick T
wrote:


Shouldn't be anything more useful in Full or Upgrade WinME compared to
HP's version, at least for the HP system(s) it was built for. More
convenient in some respects, certainly.

As mentioned, your on-board video should be disabled in the System BIOS
if you're using a discrete card. While you're in there may as well set
Shared Memory to zero, and look for a "Primary VGA Adapter" to set to
whatever. Then go back into DeviceManager and rip out the obsoleted
entries.

If you get around to it, reseat the cards in your box.

0e 0028's are most commonly graphics-related errors (and occasionally
network)


Rick

TheRealFastlane wrote:

On Tue, 23 Aug 2005 14:49:28 -0400, Rick T
wrote:



TheRealFastlane wrote:


Other than suggesting it may be a graphics problem I have not gotten
any assistance with these bsod's and they have got to go.
I reinstalled 2 different GeForce cards, the Voodoo and the onboard
i810 (not necessarily in that order) and the bsod's persist.
The bsod's began months after any graphics change (installed a Voodoo
card over onboard i810).

OS is HP WinMe, can I install MS upgrade Me over this and retain my
installed programs and configuration ? if so, how ?
Thanks

Fast evaluation on zero info is one of your cards have become unseated
because you keep changing graphics cards, or a bad chunk of RAM.

When do the BSOD's happen and what is the error message ? Ensure your
system BIOS is set up properly for whatever graphics solution you
currently have installed... that includes "Primary VGA" setting as well
as "disable/enable onboard graphics" setting.



"HP WinME" is the same as plain-old "WinME", if you plan on doing a
Refresh Install, why not use your original media.


Rick

System
HP pavilion 6735, 512M (2x256), Celeron 633Mhz, onboard i810 (HP
description - Integrated Intel? Direct AGP 3D graphics), NEC FP1350X,
no AV (on demand only) no firewall, not networked, dialup.

Quick History
Early April 05, installed a 3dfx Voodoo3/2000 to reduce shared system
ram (256M-11? for vid). System insisted on installing a second display
adapter (onboard i810) which I eventually fixed by installing it as
2nd instance of the 3dfx (worked fine).
Early May 05, upgraded to 512M ram.
Mid-late July 05, Uninstalled IE, reverted to 6.0.xx SP1 with 2 or 3
Q's then ran a windows update. Not immediately but shortly after this
is when the bsod's began.

--------------------------------------------------------------------
Bsod on (nearly every) start or restart
"FileName: vfat(01) + 00006AD5 Error: 0E : 0028 : C0045195"
--------------------------------------------------------------------

Cannot 3 finger from this screen, must press another key(s) then
quickly 3 finger else screen returns to the desktop which is like
800x480 (stretched vertically). Cannot access taskbar with mouse,
cannot 3finger, Ctrl-S/Ctrl-Esc do not activate the start button.
Alt-F4 brings up start/restart dialog box which does nothing.
Cold start, select 2 (bootlog), splash screen then black screen with
blinking cursor in home position but drive activity stops and keyboard
dont repond (num/capslock lites dont toggle). Repeat until eventually
starts.

--------------------------------------------------------------------
Bsod at no specific point after getting restarted but "usually"
if/when I attempt to run Diablo2 or Bejeweled Deluxe2.
"FileName: vmcpd(01) + 0000061C Error: 0D : 0028 : C0056F28"
--------------------------------------------------------------------

Early Aug, tried SR to end of July, no affect, SR to about 25 July, no
affect. Have added device=*vfat and device=*vmcpd to system.ini
[enh386] block, no affect.

Since been numerous scanreg /restore or /fix, best case scenario so
far, disable second display adapter, after vfat bsod, boot dos,
scanreg /fix, bootlog, bootlog again (windows complains, failed to
start last try), scandisk, regclean, pray.

Have Everest, Sisoft, and/or hijackthis if wanted/needed.
Not attempting to be argumentative but HP windows is not "the same" as
MS, it is similar is a valid statement.

Thanks

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  #8  
Old August 25th 05, 06:09 PM
Rick T
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Well, you know best, good luck with that then


Rick

TheRealFastlane wrote:
Thats what I thought too however the agp must have to do with
something else becausee when I did try it (long before trying a pci
card) I was locked out and had to do a cmos reset to get back in.
As for bios upgrades there is only one for this board and the
fix description lists nothing relative to this problem.
Thanks for trying

On Wed, 24 Aug 2005 05:24:23 -0400, Rick T
wrote:


for the i810, AGP would be the on-board, PCI the discrete.

Settings should be in Advanced tab.

There are a number of updates including BIOS on HP's site; I'd suggest
taking advantage of them prior to any OS changing.


Rick


TheRealFastlane wrote:

Only video setting in bios is AGP or PCI and the machine will run only
when PCI is selected even when using the onboard adapter.
Nothing for shared memory and PCI has settings for shadow rom,
busmaster and timeslice (different term used in bios).
Have two different sets of instructions from 2 different HP techs for
installing pci in this model/version and neither of them maatch what
actually happens. Numerous user questions about disabling onboard when
installing different brand/model video cards in the HP support forums
but never a definitive answer, at least for this series pavilion.

Soooo guess I'll backup what aint replaceable and go with the MS
upgrade ME.
Should I disable system restore before running setup from the CD ?
Should I run setup from the root or windows folder on the CD ?
Any other suggestions regarding this install ?
Thanks

On Tue, 23 Aug 2005 21:53:34 -0400, Rick T
wrote:



Shouldn't be anything more useful in Full or Upgrade WinME compared to
HP's version, at least for the HP system(s) it was built for. More
convenient in some respects, certainly.

As mentioned, your on-board video should be disabled in the System BIOS
if you're using a discrete card. While you're in there may as well set
Shared Memory to zero, and look for a "Primary VGA Adapter" to set to
whatever. Then go back into DeviceManager and rip out the obsoleted
entries.

If you get around to it, reseat the cards in your box.

0e 0028's are most commonly graphics-related errors (and occasionally
network)


Rick

TheRealFastlane wrote:


On Tue, 23 Aug 2005 14:49:28 -0400, Rick T
wrote:




TheRealFastlane wrote:



Other than suggesting it may be a graphics problem I have not gotten
any assistance with these bsod's and they have got to go.
I reinstalled 2 different GeForce cards, the Voodoo and the onboard
i810 (not necessarily in that order) and the bsod's persist.
The bsod's began months after any graphics change (installed a Voodoo
card over onboard i810).

OS is HP WinMe, can I install MS upgrade Me over this and retain my
installed programs and configuration ? if so, how ?
Thanks

Fast evaluation on zero info is one of your cards have become unseated
because you keep changing graphics cards, or a bad chunk of RAM.

When do the BSOD's happen and what is the error message ? Ensure your
system BIOS is set up properly for whatever graphics solution you
currently have installed... that includes "Primary VGA" setting as well
as "disable/enable onboard graphics" setting.



"HP WinME" is the same as plain-old "WinME", if you plan on doing a
Refresh Install, why not use your original media.


Rick

System
HP pavilion 6735, 512M (2x256), Celeron 633Mhz, onboard i810 (HP
description - Integrated Intel? Direct AGP 3D graphics), NEC FP1350X,
no AV (on demand only) no firewall, not networked, dialup.

Quick History
Early April 05, installed a 3dfx Voodoo3/2000 to reduce shared system
ram (256M-11? for vid). System insisted on installing a second display
adapter (onboard i810) which I eventually fixed by installing it as
2nd instance of the 3dfx (worked fine).
Early May 05, upgraded to 512M ram.
Mid-late July 05, Uninstalled IE, reverted to 6.0.xx SP1 with 2 or 3
Q's then ran a windows update. Not immediately but shortly after this
is when the bsod's began.

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Bsod on (nearly every) start or restart
"FileName: vfat(01) + 00006AD5 Error: 0E : 0028 : C0045195"
--------------------------------------------------------------------

Cannot 3 finger from this screen, must press another key(s) then
quickly 3 finger else screen returns to the desktop which is like
800x480 (stretched vertically). Cannot access taskbar with mouse,
cannot 3finger, Ctrl-S/Ctrl-Esc do not activate the start button.
Alt-F4 brings up start/restart dialog box which does nothing.
Cold start, select 2 (bootlog), splash screen then black screen with
blinking cursor in home position but drive activity stops and keyboard
dont repond (num/capslock lites dont toggle). Repeat until eventually
starts.

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Bsod at no specific point after getting restarted but "usually"
if/when I attempt to run Diablo2 or Bejeweled Deluxe2.
"FileName: vmcpd(01) + 0000061C Error: 0D : 0028 : C0056F28"
--------------------------------------------------------------------

Early Aug, tried SR to end of July, no affect, SR to about 25 July, no
affect. Have added device=*vfat and device=*vmcpd to system.ini
[enh386] block, no affect.

Since been numerous scanreg /restore or /fix, best case scenario so
far, disable second display adapter, after vfat bsod, boot dos,
scanreg /fix, bootlog, bootlog again (windows complains, failed to
start last try), scandisk, regclean, pray.

Have Everest, Sisoft, and/or hijackthis if wanted/needed.
Not attempting to be argumentative but HP windows is not "the same" as
MS, it is similar is a valid statement.

Thanks

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Old October 21st 05, 04:17 AM
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probably to late to help on the origanal post but might be of use to others
like me who have had similar problems. like installing 5 or 6 differant brand
cards sometimes 2 at once for 4 monitor game play. Visit the DriverHeaven
website at http://www.driverheaven.net and download a program called Driver
Cleaner 2. It Scans your system and the registry and removes all trace of
video card drivers, any brand. Allows for clean video driver install. Also
will backup every thing it removes incase results are worse. wich isn't
likely. its amazing how something so little can impact system performance.
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"TheRealFastlane" wrote:

Other than suggesting it may be a graphics problem I have not gotten
any assistance with these bsod's and they have got to go.
I reinstalled 2 different GeForce cards, the Voodoo and the onboard
i810 (not necessarily in that order) and the bsod's persist.
The bsod's began months after any graphics change (installed a Voodoo
card over onboard i810).

OS is HP WinMe, can I install MS upgrade Me over this and retain my
installed programs and configuration ? if so, how ?
Thanks

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