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How to physically sort filenames in a folder
In good old DOS daya, I remember, there was a program in
norton utilities with the name dirsort or something like that. It used to sort the names of files in a folder (then called directory) and write then in ascending order in the folder index area (FAT?) in the harddisk/floppy. Last time I checked the net, I found that it has not been updated for more than 10 years. I even saw somewhere to use it in windows at your own risk. Well I am not going to take that risk. Is something like that exists for w98SE? It should physically write the names of files in a folder in ascending order. I am not talking about sorting the display in explorer by file name (clicking above filenames in explorer). Even if filenames are shown in ascending order, the names are still in the harddisk in the order in which they get crreated in the first available space. TIA -- Rawat |
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But why would you need this? Everytime you add or delete a file in a
directory, it will get messed up again, anyway, and never stay sorted on the disk. V S Rawat wrote: In good old DOS daya, I remember, there was a program in norton utilities with the name dirsort or something like that. It used to sort the names of files in a folder (then called directory) and write then in ascending order in the folder index area (FAT?) in the harddisk/floppy. Last time I checked the net, I found that it has not been updated for more than 10 years. I even saw somewhere to use it in windows at your own risk. Well I am not going to take that risk. Is something like that exists for w98SE? It should physically write the names of files in a folder in ascending order. I am not talking about sorting the display in explorer by file name (clicking above filenames in explorer). Even if filenames are shown in ascending order, the names are still in the harddisk in the order in which they get crreated in the first available space. TIA -- Rawat |
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There's a reason that it hasn't been updated in more than ten years.
You can achieve a similar effect by sorting files into ascending order in Explorer, using select all, and copying them to a new folder. Use cut and paste rather than drag and drop to ensure that they are copied in display order. -- Jeff Richards MS MVP (Windows - Shell/User) "V S Rawat" wrote in message ... In good old DOS daya, I remember, there was a program in norton utilities with the name dirsort or something like that. It used to sort the names of files in a folder (then called directory) and write then in ascending order in the folder index area (FAT?) in the harddisk/floppy. Last time I checked the net, I found that it has not been updated for more than 10 years. I even saw somewhere to use it in windows at your own risk. Well I am not going to take that risk. Is something like that exists for w98SE? It should physically write the names of files in a folder in ascending order. I am not talking about sorting the display in explorer by file name (clicking above filenames in explorer). Even if filenames are shown in ascending order, the names are still in the harddisk in the order in which they get crreated in the first available space. TIA -- Rawat |
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On 3/6/05 10:17 AM India Time, _Bill in Co._ wrote:
But why would you need this? Everytime you add or delete a file in a directory, it will get messed up again, anyway, and never stay sorted on the disk. I have some 2000 mp3 of film songs in one folder. when I copy them to a cd or somewhere, they get coied in the order in which they are written, not in the sorted order that is getting displayed. If due to some reasons, the copying gets aborted in between. I am left with no clue where it got stopped, because destination folder again shows all songs starting with all alphabets. If it had been in the ascening order in my source hdd, it would have sorted in the same order, and I would have come to know where it stopped just by seeing at the last file of my destination. I would have re-started from there. V S Rawat wrote: In good old DOS daya, I remember, there was a program in norton utilities with the name dirsort or something like that. It used to sort the names of files in a folder (then called directory) and write then in ascending order in the folder index area (FAT?) in the harddisk/floppy. Last time I checked the net, I found that it has not been updated for more than 10 years. I even saw somewhere to use it in windows at your own risk. Well I am not going to take that risk. Is something like that exists for w98SE? It should physically write the names of files in a folder in ascending order. I am not talking about sorting the display in explorer by file name (clicking above filenames in explorer). Even if filenames are shown in ascending order, the names are still in the harddisk in the order in which they get crreated in the first available space. TIA -- Rawat -- Rawat |
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On 3/6/05 12:11 AM India Time, _V S Rawat_ wrote:
In good old DOS daya, I remember, there was a program in norton utilities with the name dirsort or something like that. It used to sort the names of files in a folder (then called directory) and write then in ascending order in the folder index area (FAT?) in the harddisk/floppy. Last time I checked the net, I found that it has not been updated for more than 10 years. I even saw somewhere to use it in windows at your own risk. Well I am not going to take that risk. Is something like that exists for w98SE? It should physically write the names of files in a folder in ascending order. I am not talking about sorting the display in explorer by file name (clicking above filenames in explorer). Even if filenames are shown in ascending order, the names are still in the harddisk in the order in which they get crreated in the first available space. TIA Thinking about it, we can only see the files in explorer view in some ascending/ descending sorted order of various fields listed there. Is there any way in which I can see the files, IN THE ORDER IN WHICH THEY ARE WRITTEN IN FAT for that folder? The way DOS shows as a default. -- Rawat |
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On 3/6/05 11:34 AM India Time, _Jeff Richards_ wrote:
There's a reason that it hasn't been updated in more than ten years. Sometimes, the reason could be that not enough people are expressing the need. Explorer is showing things sorted thus serving most of the people. You can achieve a similar effect by sorting files into ascending order in Explorer, using select all, and copying them to a new folder. Use cut and paste rather than drag and drop to ensure that they are copied in display order. I shall try that, and if it works it will serve my purpose. But if someone is aware of such a program, do share. -- Rawat |
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V S Rawat wrote:
On 3/6/05 11:34 AM India Time, _Jeff Richards_ wrote: There's a reason that it hasn't been updated in more than ten years. Sometimes, the reason could be that not enough people are expressing the need. Explorer is showing things sorted thus serving most of the people. You can achieve a similar effect by sorting files into ascending order in Explorer, using select all, and copying them to a new folder. Use cut and paste rather than drag and drop to ensure that they are copied in display order. I shall try that, and if it works it will serve my purpose. But if someone is aware of such a program, do share. -- Rawat I think this is the best way, and it should sort them correctly, including the 8.3 short file names, which is probably the problem here. I have had to do this myself with mp3 files, since the CD or DVD programs seem oblivious to long file names, in so far as the sorting sequence on the disk is concerned. It's a pain, but that's just the way it is. |
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Oh, right, this is how to see it...
(1) "START button, Programs, MS-DOS Prompt" (2) E: If the drive you wish to DIR is "E:". (3) CD Path\To\Folder (4) DIR Type DIR/? to see all options. -- Thanks or Good Luck, There may be humor in this post, and, Naturally, you will not sue, should things get worse after this, PCR "V S Rawat" wrote in message ... | On 3/6/05 12:11 AM India Time, _V S Rawat_ wrote: | | In good old DOS daya, I remember, there was a program in | norton utilities with the name dirsort or something like that. | | It used to sort the names of files in a folder (then called | directory) and write then in ascending order in the folder | index area (FAT?) in the harddisk/floppy. | | Last time I checked the net, I found that it has not been | updated for more than 10 years. I even saw somewhere to use | it in windows at your own risk. Well I am not going to take | that risk. | | Is something like that exists for w98SE? | | It should physically write the names of files in a folder in | ascending order. | | I am not talking about sorting the display in explorer by | file name (clicking above filenames in explorer). Even if | filenames are shown in ascending order, the names are still | in the harddisk in the order in which they get crreated in | the first available space. | | TIA | | Thinking about it, we can only see the files in explorer | view in some ascending/ descending sorted order of various | fields listed there. | | Is there any way in which I can see the files, IN THE ORDER | IN WHICH THEY ARE WRITTEN IN FAT for that folder? | | The way DOS shows as a default. | | -- | Rawat |
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Maybe, maybe not. Do SET first to confirm that the defult DOS sort order has
not been overridden "PCR" wrote: Oh, right, this is how to see it... (1) "START button, Programs, MS-DOS Prompt" (2) E: If the drive you wish to DIR is "E:". (3) CD Path\To\Folder (4) DIR Type DIR/? to see all options. -- Thanks or Good Luck, There may be humor in this post, and, Naturally, you will not sue, should things get worse after this, PCR "V S Rawat" wrote in message ... | On 3/6/05 12:11 AM India Time, _V S Rawat_ wrote: | | In good old DOS daya, I remember, there was a program in | norton utilities with the name dirsort or something like that. | | It used to sort the names of files in a folder (then called | directory) and write then in ascending order in the folder | index area (FAT?) in the harddisk/floppy. | | Last time I checked the net, I found that it has not been | updated for more than 10 years. I even saw somewhere to use | it in windows at your own risk. Well I am not going to take | that risk. | | Is something like that exists for w98SE? | | It should physically write the names of files in a folder in | ascending order. | | I am not talking about sorting the display in explorer by | file name (clicking above filenames in explorer). Even if | filenames are shown in ascending order, the names are still | in the harddisk in the order in which they get crreated in | the first available space. | | TIA | | Thinking about it, we can only see the files in explorer | view in some ascending/ descending sorted order of various | fields listed there. | | Is there any way in which I can see the files, IN THE ORDER | IN WHICH THEY ARE WRITTEN IN FAT for that folder? | | The way DOS shows as a default. | | -- | Rawat |
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