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Old November 11th 08, 01:14 PM posted to microsoft.public.windowsme.general
John B.
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Default Windows ME Explorer hangs up

I am attempting to help out a friend of mine who has a desktop computer with
Windows ME on it. The machine is an HP which came with Win ME installed, but
he has no Win ME installation CD. It appears that he has some corrupted
system files, since each time any action that invokes Windows Explorer is
chosen the system hangs up until Explorer is terminated. Internet Explorer
does work correctly, and all other functions. Does anyone have any idea how
to repair this problem?
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Old November 11th 08, 02:20 PM posted to microsoft.public.windowsme.general
Mart
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Default Windows ME Explorer hangs up

You imply that other functions work whist Windows Explorer is 'locked-up'
(e.g you can close WE) so I guess that you can be running other applications
whilst WE is locked. I don't have any simple answers but a couple of
questions.

At what point in opening WE does it hang? Immediately, do you get a display
of your folders (and contents), or whilst actually attempting to browse?

Any error reports?

Does WE also hang when running Safe Mode?

If not, then it *could* be a Registry issue. Might be worth looking for a
System Restore or scanreg /restore point especially if the problem has only
'recently' occurred. (I appreciate it's your friends computer and not your
own, but he may have some idea when it started to play-up.)

Regarding the missing WinMe Installation CD, you may find (if you are lucky
and the computer manufacturer has allowed it) a folder containing a complete
set of installation files on the C: drive. If so, it *should be* in the
C:Windows\Options\Instal or CABS folder - however the OEM (manufacturer) may
have put them elsewhere (or not at all)

The folder contains about 150MB of sub-folders and files (about 15 or so -
being WIN_XX.CAB series) and includes a setup.exe file.

If that fodder exists and you can copy and burn it to a CD, then you can
create an Installation CD yourself.

Mart


"John B." John wrote in message
...
I am attempting to help out a friend of mine who has a desktop computer
with
Windows ME on it. The machine is an HP which came with Win ME installed,
but
he has no Win ME installation CD. It appears that he has some corrupted
system files, since each time any action that invokes Windows Explorer is
chosen the system hangs up until Explorer is terminated. Internet
Explorer
does work correctly, and all other functions. Does anyone have any idea
how
to repair this problem?



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Old November 11th 08, 10:54 PM posted to microsoft.public.windowsme.general
Corday[_3_]
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Default Windows ME Explorer hangs up

Can't be sure if you're physically opening Windows Explorer or it's opening
when you're requesting something else. When opened, if the resources show
less than half a gig, this could be the problem. Also run scandisc to fix
Xlinked files. If you think you have a problem, I've been trying to fix a
friend's Mac with an 8.5 OS and TCP/IP malfunction.
--
I mastered Wordstar graphics!


"Mart" wrote:

You imply that other functions work whist Windows Explorer is 'locked-up'
(e.g you can close WE) so I guess that you can be running other applications
whilst WE is locked. I don't have any simple answers but a couple of
questions.

At what point in opening WE does it hang? Immediately, do you get a display
of your folders (and contents), or whilst actually attempting to browse?

Any error reports?

Does WE also hang when running Safe Mode?

If not, then it *could* be a Registry issue. Might be worth looking for a
System Restore or scanreg /restore point especially if the problem has only
'recently' occurred. (I appreciate it's your friends computer and not your
own, but he may have some idea when it started to play-up.)

Regarding the missing WinMe Installation CD, you may find (if you are lucky
and the computer manufacturer has allowed it) a folder containing a complete
set of installation files on the C: drive. If so, it *should be* in the
C:Windows\Options\Instal or CABS folder - however the OEM (manufacturer) may
have put them elsewhere (or not at all)

The folder contains about 150MB of sub-folders and files (about 15 or so -
being WIN_XX.CAB series) and includes a setup.exe file.

If that fodder exists and you can copy and burn it to a CD, then you can
create an Installation CD yourself.

Mart


"John B." John wrote in message
...
I am attempting to help out a friend of mine who has a desktop computer
with
Windows ME on it. The machine is an HP which came with Win ME installed,
but
he has no Win ME installation CD. It appears that he has some corrupted
system files, since each time any action that invokes Windows Explorer is
chosen the system hangs up until Explorer is terminated. Internet
Explorer
does work correctly, and all other functions. Does anyone have any idea
how
to repair this problem?




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Old November 12th 08, 02:06 PM posted to microsoft.public.windowsme.general
John B.[_2_]
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Default Windows ME Explorer hangs up

Mart,

Thanks for the tips on where I might find the installation files. I plan to
be over there tomorrow and will check out his computer for the CAB (or other
file folders). Once I read this note from you, I recalled that HP sometimes
places the system files in CAB folders. Unfortunately my friend has had his
hard drive replaced (larger) some time ago by a third party and they may not
have "ghosted" all of the files on the original drive -- I will check.

the second part of your question, (and Corday's), the system locks
whether I open WE directly or do some other operation that invokes WE. When
I open it directly, it only shows some of the folders that are on the machine
and then hangs. I can then go into Windows Task Manager and "Explorer" does
not show that it is "not responding", but if I terminate it, the rest of the
applications work until the next time something invokes the WE function. I
can get into the internet using IE and can also get into the local drives
through IE, so I can look for files. I can also go into MS DOS from Win ME,
but in my prior experience, that has always been a rather unstable
environment, so I am not using it extensively.

No error reports. I have not yet tried the safe mode, but will tomorrow. I
did run a registry scan check using a "PC Utilities" tool and it found a
bunch of registry errors, that I have subsequently fixed -- however the
problem remains.

I also looked for a Restore point, but apparently the owner has never
established one. No Backup, No Updates, No Installation CD, No emergency
start disk and an obsolete operating system -- I am really starting on this
on the uphill slope.

"Mart" wrote:

You imply that other functions work whist Windows Explorer is 'locked-up'
(e.g you can close WE) so I guess that you can be running other applications
whilst WE is locked. I don't have any simple answers but a couple of
questions.

At what point in opening WE does it hang? Immediately, do you get a display
of your folders (and contents), or whilst actually attempting to browse?

Any error reports?

Does WE also hang when running Safe Mode?

If not, then it *could* be a Registry issue. Might be worth looking for a
System Restore or scanreg /restore point especially if the problem has only
'recently' occurred. (I appreciate it's your friends computer and not your
own, but he may have some idea when it started to play-up.)

Regarding the missing WinMe Installation CD, you may find (if you are lucky
and the computer manufacturer has allowed it) a folder containing a complete
set of installation files on the C: drive. If so, it *should be* in the
C:Windows\Options\Instal or CABS folder - however the OEM (manufacturer) may
have put them elsewhere (or not at all)

The folder contains about 150MB of sub-folders and files (about 15 or so -
being WIN_XX.CAB series) and includes a setup.exe file.

If that fodder exists and you can copy and burn it to a CD, then you can
create an Installation CD yourself.

Mart


"John B." John wrote in message
...
I am attempting to help out a friend of mine who has a desktop computer
with
Windows ME on it. The machine is an HP which came with Win ME installed,
but
he has no Win ME installation CD. It appears that he has some corrupted
system files, since each time any action that invokes Windows Explorer is
chosen the system hangs up until Explorer is terminated. Internet
Explorer
does work correctly, and all other functions. Does anyone have any idea
how
to repair this problem?




  #5  
Old November 12th 08, 05:14 PM posted to microsoft.public.windowsme.general
Mart
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Posts: 1,190
Default Windows ME Explorer hangs up

John B wrote :-

... No Backup, No Updates, No Installation CD,
No emergency start disk and an obsolete operating
system -- I am really starting on this on the uphill slope.


I won't argue with that g

I also looked for a Restore point, but apparently the
owner has never established one.


OK, so try scanreg /restore. You *might* find a decent registry saved
there - but be aware, once you use it, you don't get a second chance at it.
(You might want to copy the 'backup files' elsewhere before you start, as a
safety measure. They are 'normally' about 5 or 6 .CAB files, in the
Windows\sysbackup folder)

As a matter of interest, what happens if you try the old File Manager
program, winfile.exe. If necessary, use Start | Run an type "winfile" (no
quotes) in the dialogue box. I might just give you some stay of execution.

If you still get nowhere, I suppose you could try scanreg /fix. But your
comments about using a "PC Utilities" program - a registry cleaner
perhaps? - suggest that your 'uphill slope' might just turn out to be a
cliff face.

Regarding a Startup Floppy, assuming you can't make your own Startup floppy
disk (using Control Panel | Add/Remove Programs - Startup Disk) then you can
download an utility to create one.

You can download a WinMe Bootdisk making utility (select the 'Windows Me
OEM' option) from :-
http://www.bootdisk.com/bootdisk.htm

**But be sure to read the instructions on how to actually create the
bootdisk** - which are essentially :-

Don't just copy the download to a floppy disk, download the file onto your
computer (any computer, with an A:drive) and then you MUST run the file for
it to actually create the Startup (floppy) disk. Just follow the screen
instructions.

Might also be worth looking at :-
Solving Problems in Windows Millennium Edition (Parts 1 & 2 of 2)
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/312930/en-us
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/312932/en-us

Good luck

Mart


"John B." wrote in message
...
Mart,

Thanks for the tips on where I might find the installation files. I plan
to
be over there tomorrow and will check out his computer for the CAB (or
other
file folders). Once I read this note from you, I recalled that HP
sometimes
places the system files in CAB folders. Unfortunately my friend has had
his
hard drive replaced (larger) some time ago by a third party and they may
not
have "ghosted" all of the files on the original drive -- I will check.

the second part of your question, (and Corday's), the system locks
whether I open WE directly or do some other operation that invokes WE.
When
I open it directly, it only shows some of the folders that are on the
machine
and then hangs. I can then go into Windows Task Manager and "Explorer"
does
not show that it is "not responding", but if I terminate it, the rest of
the
applications work until the next time something invokes the WE function.
I
can get into the internet using IE and can also get into the local drives
through IE, so I can look for files. I can also go into MS DOS from Win
ME,
but in my prior experience, that has always been a rather unstable
environment, so I am not using it extensively.

No error reports. I have not yet tried the safe mode, but will tomorrow.
I
did run a registry scan check using a "PC Utilities" tool and it found a
bunch of registry errors, that I have subsequently fixed -- however the
problem remains.

I also looked for a Restore point, but apparently the owner has never
established one. No Backup, No Updates, No Installation CD, No emergency
start disk and an obsolete operating system -- I am really starting on
this
on the uphill slope.

"Mart" wrote:

You imply that other functions work whist Windows Explorer is 'locked-up'
(e.g you can close WE) so I guess that you can be running other
applications
whilst WE is locked. I don't have any simple answers but a couple of
questions.

At what point in opening WE does it hang? Immediately, do you get a
display
of your folders (and contents), or whilst actually attempting to browse?

Any error reports?

Does WE also hang when running Safe Mode?

If not, then it *could* be a Registry issue. Might be worth looking for a
System Restore or scanreg /restore point especially if the problem has
only
'recently' occurred. (I appreciate it's your friends computer and not
your
own, but he may have some idea when it started to play-up.)

Regarding the missing WinMe Installation CD, you may find (if you are
lucky
and the computer manufacturer has allowed it) a folder containing a
complete
set of installation files on the C: drive. If so, it *should be* in the
C:Windows\Options\Instal or CABS folder - however the OEM (manufacturer)
may
have put them elsewhere (or not at all)

The folder contains about 150MB of sub-folders and files (about 15 or
so -
being WIN_XX.CAB series) and includes a setup.exe file.

If that fodder exists and you can copy and burn it to a CD, then you can
create an Installation CD yourself.

Mart


"John B." John wrote in message
...
I am attempting to help out a friend of mine who has a desktop computer
with
Windows ME on it. The machine is an HP which came with Win ME
installed,
but
he has no Win ME installation CD. It appears that he has some
corrupted
system files, since each time any action that invokes Windows Explorer
is
chosen the system hangs up until Explorer is terminated. Internet
Explorer
does work correctly, and all other functions. Does anyone have any
idea
how
to repair this problem?






 




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