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  #11  
Old March 14th 06, 09:09 PM posted to microsoft.public.windowsme.internet
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Default "This page cannot be displayed" problem!

I checked it in Normal Mode, then went to Safe Mode to be sure that the old NIC
wasn't listed (so no conflicts there). And BTW, my comment about pinging not
working - not entirely correct. The DNS servers DO return the IP of sites when
I use the UNC or URL, but it just gets a "request timed out". Apparently the
connection out to the DNS servers work?

No malware detected, which didn't surprise me as the system was using Panda
w/truprevent and it was never disabled and I had done a full scan with it also.
I completely disabled it (takes disabling a .vxd to keep it from loading
"extraneous" stuff) to make sure it wasn't interfering during this testing
phase.

On another note, I tried just booting and waiting 15 minutes before trying to
get on the internet and it wouldn't let me! So you don't have to be actively
accessing the internet for it to "time out". It seems to start from the moment
you get logged in.

Robert Robinson
Data Recovery Technician

"Noel Paton" wrote in message
...
Did you check the Device Manager in Safe Mode, after installing the new NIC
(perhaps a little desperate here, but...)??

What malware did my suggestions find - if any?


--
Noel Paton (MS-MVP 2002-2006, Windows)

Nil Carborundum Illegitemi
http://www.crashfixpc.com/millsrpch.htm

http://tinyurl.com/6oztj

Please read http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm on how to post messages to NG's
"Robert Robinson" wrote in message
...
HELP!
Wow, I've got the same problem on a friend's computer running WinME. I
have
tried everything that Mike suggested, in addition to Noel's and even used
a
program that cleans/wipes the winsock/lsp/dun software/registry
information and
re-installs it to see if that fixes it (it didn't). This only started
happening
about a week ago, up till then everything was great.
One of the problems that I see, in addition to the original problem, is
that
occasionally I also can't ping external sites once the "internet"
connectivity
shuts down (either via the IP or UNC).
I thought it might be a NIC problem too, so I uninstalled/removed the
NIC and
put a new one in. Same problem. I also disabled everything that was
running at
startup and several vxd's that were "add-ons" that I knew wouldn't crash
the
system.
When I looked at the drivers loaded for the NIC, I noticed that it said
the
tcpip.sys wasn't loaded so I replaced it (using the WinME boot disk
"minimal"),
and found that I had to put it in the System directory instead of the
System32/drivers for it to find and load it. Still no difference.

Robert Robinson
Data Recovery Technician

"Noel Paton" wrote in message
...
In addition to Mike's suggestion....

You may have a virus/spyware hijack

download the Stinger from here and run it to make sure that A-V-disabling
viruses are not present on your PC
http://vil.mcafeesecurity.com/vil/averttools.asp

- update your virus scanner and run a full system scan of all files.

Reboot to Safe Mode and run CWShredder - to remove variants of the
CoolWebSearch hijacker.
http://www.merijn.org/cwschronicles.html

Use CWShredder, the removal tool:
http://www.trendmicro.com/cwshredder/

download AdAware SE Personal Edition from www.lavasoftusa.com, install,
update, and run it to remove spyware, adware, and other such nasties from
your system.

also run the LSPFix from here
http://www.cexx.org/lspfix.htm


--
Noel Paton (MS-MVP 2002-2006, Windows)

Nil Carborundum Illegitemi
http://www.crashfixpc.com/millsrpch.htm

http://tinyurl.com/6oztj

Please read http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm on how to post messages to NG's
"LoneStar" wrote in message
...
See below for ref......

Thanks Noel, but I've done as you said befo no help. The problem is
much deeper, since my connectivity only dies "after approximately 15
minutes after bootup" and since the problem is not an Internet Explorer
issue (Windows Media Player will not work after 15 mins, or Firefox
browser, or any other app that uses the Net). But remember, all is
great
immediately after bootup or restart!!!! I can go to many, many sites
for
about 15 minutes!

I keep thinking TCP/IP configurations, etc, etc, but note that I can
ping
and tracert after Internet connectivity is lost. I've looked at ALL
the
Microsoft support sites on this, and this particular issue is not
addressed anywhere. Guess it might be time for a reformat and OS
installation!

Thanks again.

EW





"Noel Paton" wrote in message
...
This sounds to me as if you may be getting Windows confused by having
two
methods of connection potentially active at the same time - and it's
choosing the wrong one.

Go to Internet Properties |Connections - and ensure that 'never dial a
connection' is the option you've chosen, and that there are no
unwanted
entries in the connection settings.

--
Noel Paton (MS-MVP 2002-2006, Windows)

Nil Carborundum Illegitemi
http://www.crashfixpc.com/millsrpch.htm

http://tinyurl.com/6oztj

Please read http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm on how to post messages to
NG's
"LoneStar" wrote in message
...
Anyone...........
Weird problem on my Windows ME system: I lose Internet connectivity
approximately 15 minutes after bootup. Until then all works very
well.
But when it dies, IE has the subject-line error message (whether
using
my dialup OR high speed). If I reboot, all works well again for
about
15 minutes, then no more Internet again. Also, my other Internet
applications don't work -- anti-virus updates, Instant Messaging,
nothing else! HOWEVER, I can ping and tracert all over the
world!!!!!!!!!!! Everything else on the computer works great, and no
viruses caught by AVG.

This is too crazy. Any help would be appreciated.

EW

















  #12  
Old March 14th 06, 09:42 PM posted to microsoft.public.windowsme.internet
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Posts: n/a
Default "This page cannot be displayed" problem!

Have you tried pinging your DNS server? - this sounds more and more like a
problem with your ISP, rather than one at your end
If you can successfully ping the DNS server, but nothing beyond it, then it
may be that the server is either poisoned or not functioning properly - and
that is definitely your ISP's problem.

--
Noel Paton (MS-MVP 2002-2006, Windows)

Nil Carborundum Illegitemi
http://www.crashfixpc.com/millsrpch.htm

http://tinyurl.com/6oztj

Please read http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm on how to post messages to NG's
"Robert Robinson" wrote in message
...
I checked it in Normal Mode, then went to Safe Mode to be sure that the old
NIC
wasn't listed (so no conflicts there). And BTW, my comment about pinging
not
working - not entirely correct. The DNS servers DO return the IP of sites
when
I use the UNC or URL, but it just gets a "request timed out". Apparently
the
connection out to the DNS servers work?

No malware detected, which didn't surprise me as the system was using
Panda
w/truprevent and it was never disabled and I had done a full scan with it
also.
I completely disabled it (takes disabling a .vxd to keep it from loading
"extraneous" stuff) to make sure it wasn't interfering during this testing
phase.

On another note, I tried just booting and waiting 15 minutes before trying
to
get on the internet and it wouldn't let me! So you don't have to be
actively
accessing the internet for it to "time out". It seems to start from the
moment
you get logged in.

Robert Robinson
Data Recovery Technician

"Noel Paton" wrote in message
...
Did you check the Device Manager in Safe Mode, after installing the new
NIC
(perhaps a little desperate here, but...)??

What malware did my suggestions find - if any?


--
Noel Paton (MS-MVP 2002-2006, Windows)

Nil Carborundum Illegitemi
http://www.crashfixpc.com/millsrpch.htm

http://tinyurl.com/6oztj

Please read http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm on how to post messages to NG's
"Robert Robinson" wrote in message
...
HELP!
Wow, I've got the same problem on a friend's computer running WinME.
I
have
tried everything that Mike suggested, in addition to Noel's and even
used
a
program that cleans/wipes the winsock/lsp/dun software/registry
information and
re-installs it to see if that fixes it (it didn't). This only started
happening
about a week ago, up till then everything was great.
One of the problems that I see, in addition to the original problem,
is
that
occasionally I also can't ping external sites once the "internet"
connectivity
shuts down (either via the IP or UNC).
I thought it might be a NIC problem too, so I uninstalled/removed the
NIC and
put a new one in. Same problem. I also disabled everything that was
running at
startup and several vxd's that were "add-ons" that I knew wouldn't
crash
the
system.
When I looked at the drivers loaded for the NIC, I noticed that it
said
the
tcpip.sys wasn't loaded so I replaced it (using the WinME boot disk
"minimal"),
and found that I had to put it in the System directory instead of the
System32/drivers for it to find and load it. Still no difference.

Robert Robinson
Data Recovery Technician

"Noel Paton" wrote in message
...
In addition to Mike's suggestion....

You may have a virus/spyware hijack

download the Stinger from here and run it to make sure that
A-V-disabling
viruses are not present on your PC
http://vil.mcafeesecurity.com/vil/averttools.asp

- update your virus scanner and run a full system scan of all files.

Reboot to Safe Mode and run CWShredder - to remove variants of the
CoolWebSearch hijacker.
http://www.merijn.org/cwschronicles.html

Use CWShredder, the removal tool:
http://www.trendmicro.com/cwshredder/

download AdAware SE Personal Edition from www.lavasoftusa.com,
install,
update, and run it to remove spyware, adware, and other such nasties
from
your system.

also run the LSPFix from here
http://www.cexx.org/lspfix.htm


--
Noel Paton (MS-MVP 2002-2006, Windows)

Nil Carborundum Illegitemi
http://www.crashfixpc.com/millsrpch.htm

http://tinyurl.com/6oztj

Please read http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm on how to post messages to
NG's
"LoneStar" wrote in message
...
See below for ref......

Thanks Noel, but I've done as you said befo no help. The problem
is
much deeper, since my connectivity only dies "after approximately 15
minutes after bootup" and since the problem is not an Internet
Explorer
issue (Windows Media Player will not work after 15 mins, or Firefox
browser, or any other app that uses the Net). But remember, all is
great
immediately after bootup or restart!!!! I can go to many, many
sites
for
about 15 minutes!

I keep thinking TCP/IP configurations, etc, etc, but note that I can
ping
and tracert after Internet connectivity is lost. I've looked at ALL
the
Microsoft support sites on this, and this particular issue is not
addressed anywhere. Guess it might be time for a reformat and OS
installation!

Thanks again.

EW





"Noel Paton" wrote in message
...
This sounds to me as if you may be getting Windows confused by
having
two
methods of connection potentially active at the same time - and
it's
choosing the wrong one.

Go to Internet Properties |Connections - and ensure that 'never
dial a
connection' is the option you've chosen, and that there are no
unwanted
entries in the connection settings.

--
Noel Paton (MS-MVP 2002-2006, Windows)

Nil Carborundum Illegitemi
http://www.crashfixpc.com/millsrpch.htm

http://tinyurl.com/6oztj

Please read http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm on how to post messages
to
NG's
"LoneStar" wrote in message
...
Anyone...........
Weird problem on my Windows ME system: I lose Internet
connectivity
approximately 15 minutes after bootup. Until then all works very
well.
But when it dies, IE has the subject-line error message (whether
using
my dialup OR high speed). If I reboot, all works well again for
about
15 minutes, then no more Internet again. Also, my other Internet
applications don't work -- anti-virus updates, Instant Messaging,
nothing else! HOWEVER, I can ping and tracert all over the
world!!!!!!!!!!! Everything else on the computer works great, and
no
viruses caught by AVG.

This is too crazy. Any help would be appreciated.

EW



















  #13  
Old March 14th 06, 11:10 PM posted to microsoft.public.windowsme.internet
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Posts: n/a
Default "This page cannot be displayed" problem!

Noel Paton wrote:

Have you tried pinging your DNS server? - this sounds more and more
like a problem with your ISP, rather than one at your end
If you can successfully ping the DNS server, but nothing beyond it,
then it may be that the server is either poisoned or not functioning
properly - and that is definitely your ISP's problem.


This could be checked by manually configuring the system (or router if
applicable) to use a different DNS server.
--
Mike Maltby



  #14  
Old March 14th 06, 11:29 PM posted to microsoft.public.windowsme.internet
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Posts: n/a
Default "This page cannot be displayed" problem!


"Noel Paton" wrote in message
...
Have you tried pinging your DNS server? - this sounds more and more like a
problem with your ISP, rather than one at your end
If you can successfully ping the DNS server, but nothing beyond it, then
it may be that the server is either poisoned or not functioning properly -
and that is definitely your ISP's problem.

--
Noel Paton (MS-MVP 2002-2006, Windows)


SNIP............................

Noel, and gang....................

I'm back! And I'm glad (??) to see that someone else has the exact problem
I do!!! Sorry about that, Mr. R. Robinson.

Regarding your suggestions from yesterday, I did run Stinger, CWS Shredder,
several online AV scans and a local scan, and ran the LSPFix program. I did
everything Mr. Robinson did, and still no good. I've resigned myself to
simply formatting my C: drive and reloading WindowsME from scratch. The
fact that I don't know if/how/where I can find drivers for my hardware only
has me in a mild panic now. Will cross that bridge later.....

This problem is incredible, and I've seen lots of them. How Internet
connectivity can simply drop off after a specific period of time is too
weird, esp. after working great up to that point. By the way, swapping
another Windows ME computer with this one works! So it's definitely INSIDE
that particular unit.

Thanks for your help. If you have any other ideas, I'll be looking.

EW


  #15  
Old March 15th 06, 07:11 AM posted to microsoft.public.windowsme.internet
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Posts: n/a
Default "This page cannot be displayed" problem!

When I ping my DNS servers they respond, which makes sense since in one of my
previous posts I mentioned that when I ping a URL it returns the IP of the
site - ergo, the DNS servers are accessible.

As with "LoneStar", I have connectivity through the same ISP/DNS servers with 4
other computers, Win98, WinXP, Win2K and one other WinME which are all working
fine so the server(s) must be functioning properly. It's isolated to this one
computer, and since other users have the problem it seems important to discover
the cause. I may have to give up and reformat also, but am willing to continue
working on this just so we can figure it out to help others that may soon
experience it.

On another note, my system is dying at about 10 minutes or less, not 15 as
LoneStar's was.

Robert Robinson
Data Recovery Technician

"Noel Paton" wrote in message
...
Have you tried pinging your DNS server? - this sounds more and more like a
problem with your ISP, rather than one at your end
If you can successfully ping the DNS server, but nothing beyond it, then it
may be that the server is either poisoned or not functioning properly - and
that is definitely your ISP's problem.

--
Noel Paton (MS-MVP 2002-2006, Windows)

Nil Carborundum Illegitemi
http://www.crashfixpc.com/millsrpch.htm

http://tinyurl.com/6oztj

Please read http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm on how to post messages to NG's
"Robert Robinson" wrote in message
...
I checked it in Normal Mode, then went to Safe Mode to be sure that the old
NIC
wasn't listed (so no conflicts there). And BTW, my comment about pinging
not
working - not entirely correct. The DNS servers DO return the IP of sites
when
I use the UNC or URL, but it just gets a "request timed out". Apparently
the
connection out to the DNS servers work?

No malware detected, which didn't surprise me as the system was using
Panda
w/truprevent and it was never disabled and I had done a full scan with it
also.
I completely disabled it (takes disabling a .vxd to keep it from loading
"extraneous" stuff) to make sure it wasn't interfering during this testing
phase.

On another note, I tried just booting and waiting 15 minutes before trying
to
get on the internet and it wouldn't let me! So you don't have to be
actively
accessing the internet for it to "time out". It seems to start from the
moment
you get logged in.

Robert Robinson
Data Recovery Technician

"Noel Paton" wrote in message
...
Did you check the Device Manager in Safe Mode, after installing the new
NIC
(perhaps a little desperate here, but...)??

What malware did my suggestions find - if any?


--
Noel Paton (MS-MVP 2002-2006, Windows)

Nil Carborundum Illegitemi
http://www.crashfixpc.com/millsrpch.htm

http://tinyurl.com/6oztj

Please read http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm on how to post messages to NG's
"Robert Robinson" wrote in message
...
HELP!
Wow, I've got the same problem on a friend's computer running WinME.
I
have
tried everything that Mike suggested, in addition to Noel's and even
used
a
program that cleans/wipes the winsock/lsp/dun software/registry
information and
re-installs it to see if that fixes it (it didn't). This only started
happening
about a week ago, up till then everything was great.
One of the problems that I see, in addition to the original problem,
is
that
occasionally I also can't ping external sites once the "internet"
connectivity
shuts down (either via the IP or UNC).
I thought it might be a NIC problem too, so I uninstalled/removed the
NIC and
put a new one in. Same problem. I also disabled everything that was
running at
startup and several vxd's that were "add-ons" that I knew wouldn't
crash
the
system.
When I looked at the drivers loaded for the NIC, I noticed that it
said
the
tcpip.sys wasn't loaded so I replaced it (using the WinME boot disk
"minimal"),
and found that I had to put it in the System directory instead of the
System32/drivers for it to find and load it. Still no difference.

Robert Robinson
Data Recovery Technician

"Noel Paton" wrote in message
...
In addition to Mike's suggestion....

You may have a virus/spyware hijack

download the Stinger from here and run it to make sure that
A-V-disabling
viruses are not present on your PC
http://vil.mcafeesecurity.com/vil/averttools.asp

- update your virus scanner and run a full system scan of all files.

Reboot to Safe Mode and run CWShredder - to remove variants of the
CoolWebSearch hijacker.
http://www.merijn.org/cwschronicles.html

Use CWShredder, the removal tool:
http://www.trendmicro.com/cwshredder/

download AdAware SE Personal Edition from www.lavasoftusa.com,
install,
update, and run it to remove spyware, adware, and other such nasties
from
your system.

also run the LSPFix from here
http://www.cexx.org/lspfix.htm


--
Noel Paton (MS-MVP 2002-2006, Windows)

Nil Carborundum Illegitemi
http://www.crashfixpc.com/millsrpch.htm

http://tinyurl.com/6oztj

Please read http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm on how to post messages to
NG's
"LoneStar" wrote in message
...
See below for ref......

Thanks Noel, but I've done as you said befo no help. The problem
is
much deeper, since my connectivity only dies "after approximately 15
minutes after bootup" and since the problem is not an Internet
Explorer
issue (Windows Media Player will not work after 15 mins, or Firefox
browser, or any other app that uses the Net). But remember, all is
great
immediately after bootup or restart!!!! I can go to many, many
sites
for
about 15 minutes!

I keep thinking TCP/IP configurations, etc, etc, but note that I can
ping
and tracert after Internet connectivity is lost. I've looked at ALL
the
Microsoft support sites on this, and this particular issue is not
addressed anywhere. Guess it might be time for a reformat and OS
installation!

Thanks again.

EW





"Noel Paton" wrote in message
...
This sounds to me as if you may be getting Windows confused by
having
two
methods of connection potentially active at the same time - and
it's
choosing the wrong one.

Go to Internet Properties |Connections - and ensure that 'never
dial a
connection' is the option you've chosen, and that there are no
unwanted
entries in the connection settings.

--
Noel Paton (MS-MVP 2002-2006, Windows)

Nil Carborundum Illegitemi
http://www.crashfixpc.com/millsrpch.htm

http://tinyurl.com/6oztj

Please read http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm on how to post messages
to
NG's
"LoneStar" wrote in message
...
Anyone...........
Weird problem on my Windows ME system: I lose Internet
connectivity
approximately 15 minutes after bootup. Until then all works very
well.
But when it dies, IE has the subject-line error message (whether
using
my dialup OR high speed). If I reboot, all works well again for
about
15 minutes, then no more Internet again. Also, my other Internet
applications don't work -- anti-virus updates, Instant Messaging,
nothing else! HOWEVER, I can ping and tracert all over the
world!!!!!!!!!!! Everything else on the computer works great, and
no
viruses caught by AVG.

This is too crazy. Any help would be appreciated.

EW























  #16  
Old March 15th 06, 02:10 PM posted to microsoft.public.windowsme.internet
external usenet poster
 
Posts: n/a
Default "This page cannot be displayed" problem!

Hi Guys,

This is weird, I have a friend at work who came to me asking for help as he
is having the exact same problem but he is running XP. He has contacted BT
broadband and they say as he can ping it must be a problem with his PC.

Craig.

"Robert Robinson" wrote:

When I ping my DNS servers they respond, which makes sense since in one of my
previous posts I mentioned that when I ping a URL it returns the IP of the
site - ergo, the DNS servers are accessible.

As with "LoneStar", I have connectivity through the same ISP/DNS servers with 4
other computers, Win98, WinXP, Win2K and one other WinME which are all working
fine so the server(s) must be functioning properly. It's isolated to this one
computer, and since other users have the problem it seems important to discover
the cause. I may have to give up and reformat also, but am willing to continue
working on this just so we can figure it out to help others that may soon
experience it.

On another note, my system is dying at about 10 minutes or less, not 15 as
LoneStar's was.

Robert Robinson
Data Recovery Technician

"Noel Paton" wrote in message
...
Have you tried pinging your DNS server? - this sounds more and more like a
problem with your ISP, rather than one at your end
If you can successfully ping the DNS server, but nothing beyond it, then it
may be that the server is either poisoned or not functioning properly - and
that is definitely your ISP's problem.

--
Noel Paton (MS-MVP 2002-2006, Windows)

Nil Carborundum Illegitemi
http://www.crashfixpc.com/millsrpch.htm

http://tinyurl.com/6oztj

Please read http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm on how to post messages to NG's
"Robert Robinson" wrote in message
...
I checked it in Normal Mode, then went to Safe Mode to be sure that the old
NIC
wasn't listed (so no conflicts there). And BTW, my comment about pinging
not
working - not entirely correct. The DNS servers DO return the IP of sites
when
I use the UNC or URL, but it just gets a "request timed out". Apparently
the
connection out to the DNS servers work?

No malware detected, which didn't surprise me as the system was using
Panda
w/truprevent and it was never disabled and I had done a full scan with it
also.
I completely disabled it (takes disabling a .vxd to keep it from loading
"extraneous" stuff) to make sure it wasn't interfering during this testing
phase.

On another note, I tried just booting and waiting 15 minutes before trying
to
get on the internet and it wouldn't let me! So you don't have to be
actively
accessing the internet for it to "time out". It seems to start from the
moment
you get logged in.

Robert Robinson
Data Recovery Technician

"Noel Paton" wrote in message
...
Did you check the Device Manager in Safe Mode, after installing the new
NIC
(perhaps a little desperate here, but...)??

What malware did my suggestions find - if any?


--
Noel Paton (MS-MVP 2002-2006, Windows)

Nil Carborundum Illegitemi
http://www.crashfixpc.com/millsrpch.htm

http://tinyurl.com/6oztj

Please read http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm on how to post messages to NG's
"Robert Robinson" wrote in message
...
HELP!
Wow, I've got the same problem on a friend's computer running WinME.
I
have
tried everything that Mike suggested, in addition to Noel's and even
used
a
program that cleans/wipes the winsock/lsp/dun software/registry
information and
re-installs it to see if that fixes it (it didn't). This only started
happening
about a week ago, up till then everything was great.
One of the problems that I see, in addition to the original problem,
is
that
occasionally I also can't ping external sites once the "internet"
connectivity
shuts down (either via the IP or UNC).
I thought it might be a NIC problem too, so I uninstalled/removed the
NIC and
put a new one in. Same problem. I also disabled everything that was
running at
startup and several vxd's that were "add-ons" that I knew wouldn't
crash
the
system.
When I looked at the drivers loaded for the NIC, I noticed that it
said
the
tcpip.sys wasn't loaded so I replaced it (using the WinME boot disk
"minimal"),
and found that I had to put it in the System directory instead of the
System32/drivers for it to find and load it. Still no difference.

Robert Robinson
Data Recovery Technician

"Noel Paton" wrote in message
...
In addition to Mike's suggestion....

You may have a virus/spyware hijack

download the Stinger from here and run it to make sure that
A-V-disabling
viruses are not present on your PC
http://vil.mcafeesecurity.com/vil/averttools.asp

- update your virus scanner and run a full system scan of all files.

Reboot to Safe Mode and run CWShredder - to remove variants of the
CoolWebSearch hijacker.
http://www.merijn.org/cwschronicles.html

Use CWShredder, the removal tool:
http://www.trendmicro.com/cwshredder/

download AdAware SE Personal Edition from www.lavasoftusa.com,
install,
update, and run it to remove spyware, adware, and other such nasties
from
your system.

also run the LSPFix from here
http://www.cexx.org/lspfix.htm


--
Noel Paton (MS-MVP 2002-2006, Windows)

Nil Carborundum Illegitemi
http://www.crashfixpc.com/millsrpch.htm

http://tinyurl.com/6oztj

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NG's
"LoneStar" wrote in message
...
See below for ref......

Thanks Noel, but I've done as you said befo no help. The problem
is
much deeper, since my connectivity only dies "after approximately 15
minutes after bootup" and since the problem is not an Internet
Explorer
issue (Windows Media Player will not work after 15 mins, or Firefox
browser, or any other app that uses the Net). But remember, all is
great
immediately after bootup or restart!!!! I can go to many, many
sites
for
about 15 minutes!

I keep thinking TCP/IP configurations, etc, etc, but note that I can
ping
and tracert after Internet connectivity is lost. I've looked at ALL
the
Microsoft support sites on this, and this particular issue is not
addressed anywhere. Guess it might be time for a reformat and OS
installation!

Thanks again.

EW





"Noel Paton" wrote in message
...
This sounds to me as if you may be getting Windows confused by
having
two
methods of connection potentially active at the same time - and
it's
choosing the wrong one.

Go to Internet Properties |Connections - and ensure that 'never
dial a
connection' is the option you've chosen, and that there are no
unwanted
entries in the connection settings.

--
Noel Paton (MS-MVP 2002-2006, Windows)

Nil Carborundum Illegitemi
http://www.crashfixpc.com/millsrpch.htm

http://tinyurl.com/6oztj

Please read http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm on how to post messages
to
NG's
"LoneStar" wrote in message
...
Anyone...........
Weird problem on my Windows ME system: I lose Internet
connectivity
approximately 15 minutes after bootup. Until then all works very
well.
But when it dies, IE has the subject-line error message (whether
using
my dialup OR high speed). If I reboot, all works well again for
about
15 minutes, then no more Internet again. Also, my other Internet
applications don't work -- anti-virus updates, Instant Messaging,
nothing else! HOWEVER, I can ping and tracert all over the
world!!!!!!!!!!! Everything else on the computer works great, and
no
viruses caught by AVG.

This is too crazy. Any help would be appreciated.

EW
























  #17  
Old March 15th 06, 02:33 PM posted to microsoft.public.windowsme.internet
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Default "This page cannot be displayed" problem!

Tell him to run this command - it will only work in Windows XPSP2....

NETSH WINSOCK RESET

See if that works for him.

--
Noel Paton (MS-MVP 2002-2006, Windows)

Nil Carborundum Illegitemi
http://www.crashfixpc.com/millsrpch.htm

http://tinyurl.com/6oztj

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"canna" wrote in message
...
Hi Guys,

This is weird, I have a friend at work who came to me asking for help as
he
is having the exact same problem but he is running XP. He has contacted BT
broadband and they say as he can ping it must be a problem with his PC.

Craig.

"Robert Robinson" wrote:

When I ping my DNS servers they respond, which makes sense since in one
of my
previous posts I mentioned that when I ping a URL it returns the IP of
the
site - ergo, the DNS servers are accessible.

As with "LoneStar", I have connectivity through the same ISP/DNS servers
with 4
other computers, Win98, WinXP, Win2K and one other WinME which are all
working
fine so the server(s) must be functioning properly. It's isolated to
this one
computer, and since other users have the problem it seems important to
discover
the cause. I may have to give up and reformat also, but am willing to
continue
working on this just so we can figure it out to help others that may soon
experience it.

On another note, my system is dying at about 10 minutes or less, not 15
as
LoneStar's was.

Robert Robinson
Data Recovery Technician

"Noel Paton" wrote in message
...
Have you tried pinging your DNS server? - this sounds more and more
like a
problem with your ISP, rather than one at your end
If you can successfully ping the DNS server, but nothing beyond it,
then it
may be that the server is either poisoned or not functioning properly -
and
that is definitely your ISP's problem.

--
Noel Paton (MS-MVP 2002-2006, Windows)

Nil Carborundum Illegitemi
http://www.crashfixpc.com/millsrpch.htm

http://tinyurl.com/6oztj

Please read http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm on how to post messages to
NG's
"Robert Robinson" wrote in message
...
I checked it in Normal Mode, then went to Safe Mode to be sure that
the old
NIC
wasn't listed (so no conflicts there). And BTW, my comment about
pinging
not
working - not entirely correct. The DNS servers DO return the IP of
sites
when
I use the UNC or URL, but it just gets a "request timed out".
Apparently
the
connection out to the DNS servers work?

No malware detected, which didn't surprise me as the system was using
Panda
w/truprevent and it was never disabled and I had done a full scan
with it
also.
I completely disabled it (takes disabling a .vxd to keep it from
loading
"extraneous" stuff) to make sure it wasn't interfering during this
testing
phase.

On another note, I tried just booting and waiting 15 minutes before
trying
to
get on the internet and it wouldn't let me! So you don't have to be
actively
accessing the internet for it to "time out". It seems to start from
the
moment
you get logged in.

Robert Robinson
Data Recovery Technician

"Noel Paton" wrote in message
...
Did you check the Device Manager in Safe Mode, after installing the
new
NIC
(perhaps a little desperate here, but...)??

What malware did my suggestions find - if any?


--
Noel Paton (MS-MVP 2002-2006, Windows)

Nil Carborundum Illegitemi
http://www.crashfixpc.com/millsrpch.htm

http://tinyurl.com/6oztj

Please read http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm on how to post messages to
NG's
"Robert Robinson" wrote in message
...
HELP!
Wow, I've got the same problem on a friend's computer running
WinME.
I
have
tried everything that Mike suggested, in addition to Noel's and
even
used
a
program that cleans/wipes the winsock/lsp/dun software/registry
information and
re-installs it to see if that fixes it (it didn't). This only
started
happening
about a week ago, up till then everything was great.
One of the problems that I see, in addition to the original
problem,
is
that
occasionally I also can't ping external sites once the "internet"
connectivity
shuts down (either via the IP or UNC).
I thought it might be a NIC problem too, so I
uninstalled/removed the
NIC and
put a new one in. Same problem. I also disabled everything that
was
running at
startup and several vxd's that were "add-ons" that I knew wouldn't
crash
the
system.
When I looked at the drivers loaded for the NIC, I noticed that
it
said
the
tcpip.sys wasn't loaded so I replaced it (using the WinME boot
disk
"minimal"),
and found that I had to put it in the System directory instead of
the
System32/drivers for it to find and load it. Still no difference.

Robert Robinson
Data Recovery Technician

"Noel Paton" wrote in message
...
In addition to Mike's suggestion....

You may have a virus/spyware hijack

download the Stinger from here and run it to make sure that
A-V-disabling
viruses are not present on your PC
http://vil.mcafeesecurity.com/vil/averttools.asp

- update your virus scanner and run a full system scan of all
files.

Reboot to Safe Mode and run CWShredder - to remove variants of
the
CoolWebSearch hijacker.
http://www.merijn.org/cwschronicles.html

Use CWShredder, the removal tool:
http://www.trendmicro.com/cwshredder/

download AdAware SE Personal Edition from www.lavasoftusa.com,
install,
update, and run it to remove spyware, adware, and other such
nasties
from
your system.

also run the LSPFix from here
http://www.cexx.org/lspfix.htm


--
Noel Paton (MS-MVP 2002-2006, Windows)

Nil Carborundum Illegitemi
http://www.crashfixpc.com/millsrpch.htm

http://tinyurl.com/6oztj

Please read http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm on how to post messages
to
NG's
"LoneStar" wrote in message
...
See below for ref......

Thanks Noel, but I've done as you said befo no help. The
problem
is
much deeper, since my connectivity only dies "after
approximately 15
minutes after bootup" and since the problem is not an Internet
Explorer
issue (Windows Media Player will not work after 15 mins, or
Firefox
browser, or any other app that uses the Net). But remember,
all is
great
immediately after bootup or restart!!!! I can go to many, many
sites
for
about 15 minutes!

I keep thinking TCP/IP configurations, etc, etc, but note that
I can
ping
and tracert after Internet connectivity is lost. I've looked
at ALL
the
Microsoft support sites on this, and this particular issue is
not
addressed anywhere. Guess it might be time for a reformat and
OS
installation!

Thanks again.

EW





"Noel Paton" wrote in message
...
This sounds to me as if you may be getting Windows confused by
having
two
methods of connection potentially active at the same time -
and
it's
choosing the wrong one.

Go to Internet Properties |Connections - and ensure that
'never
dial a
connection' is the option you've chosen, and that there are no
unwanted
entries in the connection settings.

--
Noel Paton (MS-MVP 2002-2006, Windows)

Nil Carborundum Illegitemi
http://www.crashfixpc.com/millsrpch.htm

http://tinyurl.com/6oztj

Please read http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm on how to post
messages
to
NG's
"LoneStar" wrote in message
...
Anyone...........
Weird problem on my Windows ME system: I lose Internet
connectivity
approximately 15 minutes after bootup. Until then all works
very
well.
But when it dies, IE has the subject-line error message
(whether
using
my dialup OR high speed). If I reboot, all works well again
for
about
15 minutes, then no more Internet again. Also, my other
Internet
applications don't work -- anti-virus updates, Instant
Messaging,
nothing else! HOWEVER, I can ping and tracert all over the
world!!!!!!!!!!! Everything else on the computer works great,
and
no
viruses caught by AVG.

This is too crazy. Any help would be appreciated.

EW


























  #18  
Old March 16th 06, 06:05 PM posted to microsoft.public.windowsme.internet
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Default "This page cannot be displayed" problem!

I just tried also to boot with ME diskette/minimal and ran scanreg /fix to be
sure there were no registry problems that might be related to lost keys. Still
no fix.
Anyone got solutions that haven't been mentioned so far? I'm pretty
desperate to get this going without wiping the drive and starting over.

Robert

"Robert Robinson" wrote in message
...
When I ping my DNS servers they respond, which makes sense since in one of my
previous posts I mentioned that when I ping a URL it returns the IP of the
site - ergo, the DNS servers are accessible.

As with "LoneStar", I have connectivity through the same ISP/DNS servers with

4
other computers, Win98, WinXP, Win2K and one other WinME which are all working
fine so the server(s) must be functioning properly. It's isolated to this one
computer, and since other users have the problem it seems important to

discover
the cause. I may have to give up and reformat also, but am willing to

continue
working on this just so we can figure it out to help others that may soon
experience it.

On another note, my system is dying at about 10 minutes or less, not 15 as
LoneStar's was.

Robert Robinson
Data Recovery Technician

"Noel Paton" wrote in message
...
Have you tried pinging your DNS server? - this sounds more and more like a
problem with your ISP, rather than one at your end
If you can successfully ping the DNS server, but nothing beyond it, then it
may be that the server is either poisoned or not functioning properly - and
that is definitely your ISP's problem.

--
Noel Paton (MS-MVP 2002-2006, Windows)

Nil Carborundum Illegitemi
http://www.crashfixpc.com/millsrpch.htm

http://tinyurl.com/6oztj

Please read http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm on how to post messages to NG's
"Robert Robinson" wrote in message
...
I checked it in Normal Mode, then went to Safe Mode to be sure that the old
NIC
wasn't listed (so no conflicts there). And BTW, my comment about pinging
not
working - not entirely correct. The DNS servers DO return the IP of sites
when
I use the UNC or URL, but it just gets a "request timed out". Apparently
the
connection out to the DNS servers work?

No malware detected, which didn't surprise me as the system was using
Panda
w/truprevent and it was never disabled and I had done a full scan with it
also.
I completely disabled it (takes disabling a .vxd to keep it from loading
"extraneous" stuff) to make sure it wasn't interfering during this testing
phase.

On another note, I tried just booting and waiting 15 minutes before trying
to
get on the internet and it wouldn't let me! So you don't have to be
actively
accessing the internet for it to "time out". It seems to start from the
moment
you get logged in.

Robert Robinson
Data Recovery Technician

"Noel Paton" wrote in message
...
Did you check the Device Manager in Safe Mode, after installing the new
NIC
(perhaps a little desperate here, but...)??

What malware did my suggestions find - if any?


--
Noel Paton (MS-MVP 2002-2006, Windows)

Nil Carborundum Illegitemi
http://www.crashfixpc.com/millsrpch.htm

http://tinyurl.com/6oztj

Please read http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm on how to post messages to NG's
"Robert Robinson" wrote in message
...
HELP!
Wow, I've got the same problem on a friend's computer running WinME.
I
have
tried everything that Mike suggested, in addition to Noel's and even
used
a
program that cleans/wipes the winsock/lsp/dun software/registry
information and
re-installs it to see if that fixes it (it didn't). This only started
happening
about a week ago, up till then everything was great.
One of the problems that I see, in addition to the original problem,
is
that
occasionally I also can't ping external sites once the "internet"
connectivity
shuts down (either via the IP or UNC).
I thought it might be a NIC problem too, so I uninstalled/removed the
NIC and
put a new one in. Same problem. I also disabled everything that was
running at
startup and several vxd's that were "add-ons" that I knew wouldn't
crash
the
system.
When I looked at the drivers loaded for the NIC, I noticed that it
said
the
tcpip.sys wasn't loaded so I replaced it (using the WinME boot disk
"minimal"),
and found that I had to put it in the System directory instead of the
System32/drivers for it to find and load it. Still no difference.

Robert Robinson
Data Recovery Technician

"Noel Paton" wrote in message
...
In addition to Mike's suggestion....

You may have a virus/spyware hijack

download the Stinger from here and run it to make sure that
A-V-disabling
viruses are not present on your PC
http://vil.mcafeesecurity.com/vil/averttools.asp

- update your virus scanner and run a full system scan of all files.

Reboot to Safe Mode and run CWShredder - to remove variants of the
CoolWebSearch hijacker.
http://www.merijn.org/cwschronicles.html

Use CWShredder, the removal tool:
http://www.trendmicro.com/cwshredder/

download AdAware SE Personal Edition from www.lavasoftusa.com,
install,
update, and run it to remove spyware, adware, and other such nasties
from
your system.

also run the LSPFix from here
http://www.cexx.org/lspfix.htm


--
Noel Paton (MS-MVP 2002-2006, Windows)

Nil Carborundum Illegitemi
http://www.crashfixpc.com/millsrpch.htm

http://tinyurl.com/6oztj

Please read http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm on how to post messages to
NG's
"LoneStar" wrote in message
...
See below for ref......

Thanks Noel, but I've done as you said befo no help. The problem
is
much deeper, since my connectivity only dies "after approximately 15
minutes after bootup" and since the problem is not an Internet
Explorer
issue (Windows Media Player will not work after 15 mins, or Firefox
browser, or any other app that uses the Net). But remember, all is
great
immediately after bootup or restart!!!! I can go to many, many
sites
for
about 15 minutes!

I keep thinking TCP/IP configurations, etc, etc, but note that I can
ping
and tracert after Internet connectivity is lost. I've looked at ALL
the
Microsoft support sites on this, and this particular issue is not
addressed anywhere. Guess it might be time for a reformat and OS
installation!

Thanks again.

EW





"Noel Paton" wrote in message
...
This sounds to me as if you may be getting Windows confused by
having
two
methods of connection potentially active at the same time - and
it's
choosing the wrong one.

Go to Internet Properties |Connections - and ensure that 'never
dial a
connection' is the option you've chosen, and that there are no
unwanted
entries in the connection settings.

--
Noel Paton (MS-MVP 2002-2006, Windows)

Nil Carborundum Illegitemi
http://www.crashfixpc.com/millsrpch.htm

http://tinyurl.com/6oztj

Please read http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm on how to post messages
to
NG's
"LoneStar" wrote in message
...
Anyone...........
Weird problem on my Windows ME system: I lose Internet
connectivity
approximately 15 minutes after bootup. Until then all works very
well.
But when it dies, IE has the subject-line error message (whether
using
my dialup OR high speed). If I reboot, all works well again for
about
15 minutes, then no more Internet again. Also, my other Internet
applications don't work -- anti-virus updates, Instant Messaging,
nothing else! HOWEVER, I can ping and tracert all over the
world!!!!!!!!!!! Everything else on the computer works great, and
no
viruses caught by AVG.

This is too crazy. Any help would be appreciated.

EW

























  #19  
Old March 17th 06, 01:20 PM posted to microsoft.public.windowsme.internet
external usenet poster
 
Posts: n/a
Default "This page cannot be displayed" problem!

Noel, many thanks for your reply. He has tried your suggestion and still no
luck.

Craig.

"Noel Paton" wrote:

Tell him to run this command - it will only work in Windows XPSP2....

NETSH WINSOCK RESET

See if that works for him.

--
Noel Paton (MS-MVP 2002-2006, Windows)

Nil Carborundum Illegitemi
http://www.crashfixpc.com/millsrpch.htm

http://tinyurl.com/6oztj

Please read http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm on how to post messages to NG's
"canna" wrote in message
...
Hi Guys,

This is weird, I have a friend at work who came to me asking for help as
he
is having the exact same problem but he is running XP. He has contacted BT
broadband and they say as he can ping it must be a problem with his PC.

Craig.

"Robert Robinson" wrote:

When I ping my DNS servers they respond, which makes sense since in one
of my
previous posts I mentioned that when I ping a URL it returns the IP of
the
site - ergo, the DNS servers are accessible.

As with "LoneStar", I have connectivity through the same ISP/DNS servers
with 4
other computers, Win98, WinXP, Win2K and one other WinME which are all
working
fine so the server(s) must be functioning properly. It's isolated to
this one
computer, and since other users have the problem it seems important to
discover
the cause. I may have to give up and reformat also, but am willing to
continue
working on this just so we can figure it out to help others that may soon
experience it.

On another note, my system is dying at about 10 minutes or less, not 15
as
LoneStar's was.

Robert Robinson
Data Recovery Technician

"Noel Paton" wrote in message
...
Have you tried pinging your DNS server? - this sounds more and more
like a
problem with your ISP, rather than one at your end
If you can successfully ping the DNS server, but nothing beyond it,
then it
may be that the server is either poisoned or not functioning properly -
and
that is definitely your ISP's problem.

--
Noel Paton (MS-MVP 2002-2006, Windows)

Nil Carborundum Illegitemi
http://www.crashfixpc.com/millsrpch.htm

http://tinyurl.com/6oztj

Please read http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm on how to post messages to
NG's
"Robert Robinson" wrote in message
...
I checked it in Normal Mode, then went to Safe Mode to be sure that
the old
NIC
wasn't listed (so no conflicts there). And BTW, my comment about
pinging
not
working - not entirely correct. The DNS servers DO return the IP of
sites
when
I use the UNC or URL, but it just gets a "request timed out".
Apparently
the
connection out to the DNS servers work?

No malware detected, which didn't surprise me as the system was using
Panda
w/truprevent and it was never disabled and I had done a full scan
with it
also.
I completely disabled it (takes disabling a .vxd to keep it from
loading
"extraneous" stuff) to make sure it wasn't interfering during this
testing
phase.

On another note, I tried just booting and waiting 15 minutes before
trying
to
get on the internet and it wouldn't let me! So you don't have to be
actively
accessing the internet for it to "time out". It seems to start from
the
moment
you get logged in.

Robert Robinson
Data Recovery Technician

"Noel Paton" wrote in message
...
Did you check the Device Manager in Safe Mode, after installing the
new
NIC
(perhaps a little desperate here, but...)??

What malware did my suggestions find - if any?


--
Noel Paton (MS-MVP 2002-2006, Windows)

Nil Carborundum Illegitemi
http://www.crashfixpc.com/millsrpch.htm

http://tinyurl.com/6oztj

Please read http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm on how to post messages to
NG's
"Robert Robinson" wrote in message
...
HELP!
Wow, I've got the same problem on a friend's computer running
WinME.
I
have
tried everything that Mike suggested, in addition to Noel's and
even
used
a
program that cleans/wipes the winsock/lsp/dun software/registry
information and
re-installs it to see if that fixes it (it didn't). This only
started
happening
about a week ago, up till then everything was great.
One of the problems that I see, in addition to the original
problem,
is
that
occasionally I also can't ping external sites once the "internet"
connectivity
shuts down (either via the IP or UNC).
I thought it might be a NIC problem too, so I
uninstalled/removed the
NIC and
put a new one in. Same problem. I also disabled everything that
was
running at
startup and several vxd's that were "add-ons" that I knew wouldn't
crash
the
system.
When I looked at the drivers loaded for the NIC, I noticed that
it
said
the
tcpip.sys wasn't loaded so I replaced it (using the WinME boot
disk
"minimal"),
and found that I had to put it in the System directory instead of
the
System32/drivers for it to find and load it. Still no difference.

Robert Robinson
Data Recovery Technician

"Noel Paton" wrote in message
...
In addition to Mike's suggestion....

You may have a virus/spyware hijack

download the Stinger from here and run it to make sure that
A-V-disabling
viruses are not present on your PC
http://vil.mcafeesecurity.com/vil/averttools.asp

- update your virus scanner and run a full system scan of all
files.

Reboot to Safe Mode and run CWShredder - to remove variants of
the
CoolWebSearch hijacker.
http://www.merijn.org/cwschronicles.html

Use CWShredder, the removal tool:
http://www.trendmicro.com/cwshredder/

download AdAware SE Personal Edition from www.lavasoftusa.com,
install,
update, and run it to remove spyware, adware, and other such
nasties
from
your system.

also run the LSPFix from here
http://www.cexx.org/lspfix.htm


--
Noel Paton (MS-MVP 2002-2006, Windows)

Nil Carborundum Illegitemi
http://www.crashfixpc.com/millsrpch.htm

http://tinyurl.com/6oztj

Please read http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm on how to post messages
to
NG's
"LoneStar" wrote in message
...
See below for ref......

Thanks Noel, but I've done as you said befo no help. The
problem
is
much deeper, since my connectivity only dies "after
approximately 15
minutes after bootup" and since the problem is not an Internet
Explorer
issue (Windows Media Player will not work after 15 mins, or
Firefox
browser, or any other app that uses the Net). But remember,
all is
great
immediately after bootup or restart!!!! I can go to many, many
sites
for
about 15 minutes!

I keep thinking TCP/IP configurations, etc, etc, but note that
I can
ping
and tracert after Internet connectivity is lost. I've looked
at ALL
the
Microsoft support sites on this, and this particular issue is
not
addressed anywhere. Guess it might be time for a reformat and
OS
installation!

Thanks again.

EW





"Noel Paton" wrote in message
...
This sounds to me as if you may be getting Windows confused by
having
two
methods of connection potentially active at the same time -
and
it's
choosing the wrong one.

Go to Internet Properties |Connections - and ensure that
'never
dial a
connection' is the option you've chosen, and that there are no
unwanted
entries in the connection settings.

--
Noel Paton (MS-MVP 2002-2006, Windows)

Nil Carborundum Illegitemi
http://www.crashfixpc.com/millsrpch.htm

http://tinyurl.com/6oztj

Please read http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm on how to post
messages
to
NG's
"LoneStar" wrote in message
...
Anyone...........

  #20  
Old March 17th 06, 04:28 PM posted to microsoft.public.windowsme.internet
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Posts: n/a
Default "This page cannot be displayed" problem!

Running AOL and Norton, by any chance??
http://news.com.com/2100-1002_3-6050...0786&subj=news

--
Noel Paton (MS-MVP 2002-2006, Windows)

Nil Carborundum Illegitemi
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Noel, many thanks for your reply. He has tried your suggestion and still
no
luck.

Craig.

"Noel Paton" wrote:

Tell him to run this command - it will only work in Windows XPSP2....

NETSH WINSOCK RESET

See if that works for him.

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"canna" wrote in message
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Hi Guys,

This is weird, I have a friend at work who came to me asking for help
as
he
is having the exact same problem but he is running XP. He has contacted
BT
broadband and they say as he can ping it must be a problem with his PC.

Craig.

"Robert Robinson" wrote:

When I ping my DNS servers they respond, which makes sense since in
one
of my
previous posts I mentioned that when I ping a URL it returns the IP of
the
site - ergo, the DNS servers are accessible.

As with "LoneStar", I have connectivity through the same ISP/DNS
servers
with 4
other computers, Win98, WinXP, Win2K and one other WinME which are all
working
fine so the server(s) must be functioning properly. It's isolated to
this one
computer, and since other users have the problem it seems important to
discover
the cause. I may have to give up and reformat also, but am willing to
continue
working on this just so we can figure it out to help others that may
soon
experience it.

On another note, my system is dying at about 10 minutes or less, not
15
as
LoneStar's was.

Robert Robinson
Data Recovery Technician

"Noel Paton" wrote in message
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Have you tried pinging your DNS server? - this sounds more and more
like a
problem with your ISP, rather than one at your end
If you can successfully ping the DNS server, but nothing beyond it,
then it
may be that the server is either poisoned or not functioning
properly -
and
that is definitely your ISP's problem.

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"Robert Robinson" wrote in message
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I checked it in Normal Mode, then went to Safe Mode to be sure that
the old
NIC
wasn't listed (so no conflicts there). And BTW, my comment about
pinging
not
working - not entirely correct. The DNS servers DO return the IP
of
sites
when
I use the UNC or URL, but it just gets a "request timed out".
Apparently
the
connection out to the DNS servers work?

No malware detected, which didn't surprise me as the system was
using
Panda
w/truprevent and it was never disabled and I had done a full scan
with it
also.
I completely disabled it (takes disabling a .vxd to keep it from
loading
"extraneous" stuff) to make sure it wasn't interfering during this
testing
phase.

On another note, I tried just booting and waiting 15 minutes
before
trying
to
get on the internet and it wouldn't let me! So you don't have to
be
actively
accessing the internet for it to "time out". It seems to start
from
the
moment
you get logged in.

Robert Robinson
Data Recovery Technician

"Noel Paton" wrote in message
...
Did you check the Device Manager in Safe Mode, after installing
the
new
NIC
(perhaps a little desperate here, but...)??

What malware did my suggestions find - if any?


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"Robert Robinson" wrote in
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HELP!
Wow, I've got the same problem on a friend's computer running
WinME.
I
have
tried everything that Mike suggested, in addition to Noel's and
even
used
a
program that cleans/wipes the winsock/lsp/dun software/registry
information and
re-installs it to see if that fixes it (it didn't). This only
started
happening
about a week ago, up till then everything was great.
One of the problems that I see, in addition to the original
problem,
is
that
occasionally I also can't ping external sites once the
"internet"
connectivity
shuts down (either via the IP or UNC).
I thought it might be a NIC problem too, so I
uninstalled/removed the
NIC and
put a new one in. Same problem. I also disabled everything
that
was
running at
startup and several vxd's that were "add-ons" that I knew
wouldn't
crash
the
system.
When I looked at the drivers loaded for the NIC, I noticed
that
it
said
the
tcpip.sys wasn't loaded so I replaced it (using the WinME boot
disk
"minimal"),
and found that I had to put it in the System directory instead
of
the
System32/drivers for it to find and load it. Still no
difference.

Robert Robinson
Data Recovery Technician

"Noel Paton" wrote in message
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In addition to Mike's suggestion....

You may have a virus/spyware hijack

download the Stinger from here and run it to make sure that
A-V-disabling
viruses are not present on your PC
http://vil.mcafeesecurity.com/vil/averttools.asp

- update your virus scanner and run a full system scan of all
files.

Reboot to Safe Mode and run CWShredder - to remove variants of
the
CoolWebSearch hijacker.
http://www.merijn.org/cwschronicles.html

Use CWShredder, the removal tool:
http://www.trendmicro.com/cwshredder/

download AdAware SE Personal Edition from www.lavasoftusa.com,
install,
update, and run it to remove spyware, adware, and other such
nasties
from
your system.

also run the LSPFix from here
http://www.cexx.org/lspfix.htm


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"LoneStar" wrote in message
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See below for ref......

Thanks Noel, but I've done as you said befo no help. The
problem
is
much deeper, since my connectivity only dies "after
approximately 15
minutes after bootup" and since the problem is not an
Internet
Explorer
issue (Windows Media Player will not work after 15 mins, or
Firefox
browser, or any other app that uses the Net). But remember,
all is
great
immediately after bootup or restart!!!! I can go to many,
many
sites
for
about 15 minutes!

I keep thinking TCP/IP configurations, etc, etc, but note
that
I can
ping
and tracert after Internet connectivity is lost. I've
looked
at ALL
the
Microsoft support sites on this, and this particular issue
is
not
addressed anywhere. Guess it might be time for a reformat
and
OS
installation!

Thanks again.

EW





"Noel Paton" wrote in
message
...
This sounds to me as if you may be getting Windows confused
by
having
two
methods of connection potentially active at the same time -
and
it's
choosing the wrong one.

Go to Internet Properties |Connections - and ensure that
'never
dial a
connection' is the option you've chosen, and that there are
no
unwanted
entries in the connection settings.

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