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System Restore
After my PC (with WinME) has run for awhile, if I attempt to start System
Restore from Help and Support, it displays the message "System Restore cannot run until you restart the computer. Please restart the computer, and then run System Restore again." After restarting the PC, System Restore does start, but has no restore points. The PC idles a lot, and has been used several days in a row, so you'd think it had enough down time to set the normal restore points. When I attempt to enter a manual restore point, I get this message: ! An error has occurred in the script on this page. Line: 63 Char: 5 Error: Object doesn't support this property or method Code: 0 URL: res://rstrui.exe/SRUI-ConfRP.htm Do you want to continue running scripts on this page? Yes/No Either answer blocks any further inputs. I can delete the System Restore GUI and start over from Help and Support repeatably with the same result. Any suggestions? Thanks! -- Joe |
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System Restore
Joe,
What follows are various ramblings, with the first part related to the reboot message and lack of checkpoints after which I comment about the message you are seeing when attempting to create a check point. I would start with 2) and only follow my comments at 1) if 2) doesn't solve the problem. 1) Reboot message and lack of checkpoints When you attempt to start system restore (whichever method you use is immaterial) and you see the message about restoring your PC, open Windows Explorer and look to see whether you have a file name wininit.ini in your Windows folder. If yes, then that is the reason for the message as the presence of this file indicates that the system is in the middle of an install or uninstall and has yet to complete the job which will be done when the system next boots at which point the instructions contained in wininit.ini will be processed and the file renamed wininit.bak. So if this is the case the question now becomes what is it that is creating the wininit.ini file and why. Do you have some clean up utility installed that is being used to perhaps delete index.dat or other "in use" files each time the system boots? This same utility could also be the reason why you have no restore points as it is cleaning them. Have a look at the contents of wininit.ini, it is a plain text file and can be opened using notepad. It will have one of more lines where a file is either deleted or renamed. What are the files as knowing this might help identify what is creating the wininit.ini file and what it is doing. 2) Error message when attempting to create a manual checkpoint. Try resetting system restore which has in the past been all that is required to fix this somewhat rare error message which is, I think, due to a damaged system restore configuration file (my records show less than 10 reports in four years). To reset system resto System | Performance | File System | Troubleshooting and check "Disable System Restore", Apply and IMMEDIATELY reboot. This will flush you restore folder and erase all checkpoints, then, System | Performance | File System | Troubleshooting and uncheck "Disable System Restore", Apply and again IMMEDIATELY reboot. This should now automatically create a new checkpoint immediately following the restart. Finally adjust the space allocated to the restore folder, System | Performance | File System | Hard Disk and adjust the restore slider to your preferred setting. A figure of 200MB is normally more than adequate for day to day use allowing perhaps a week of checkpoints to be available although increasing this to perhaps 400-500MB for a few days during periods of large installs such Microsoft Office is advisable. Please try the following quick check and see how far you get and what messages you see. a) Create a shortcut on your desktop to a file (any file). b) Create a manual checkpoint Could you create a checkpoint? If not what error message did you see? c) Delete the shortcut d) Restore your PC to the checkpoint you created. Was the shortcut restored? Did you see any error messages? e) Reboot your PC Was the checkpoint retained? Please post back with details of how you get on. -- Mike Maltby Joe wrote: After my PC (with WinME) has run for awhile, if I attempt to start System Restore from Help and Support, it displays the message "System Restore cannot run until you restart the computer. Please restart the computer, and then run System Restore again." After restarting the PC, System Restore does start, but has no restore points. The PC idles a lot, and has been used several days in a row, so you'd think it had enough down time to set the normal restore points. When I attempt to enter a manual restore point, I get this message: ! An error has occurred in the script on this page. Line: 63 Char: 5 Error: Object doesn't support this property or method Code: 0 URL: res://rstrui.exe/SRUI-ConfRP.htm Do you want to continue running scripts on this page? Yes/No Either answer blocks any further inputs. I can delete the System Restore GUI and start over from Help and Support repeatably with the same result. Any suggestions? Thanks! |
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System Restore
Hi, Mike,
Your 2) fix seems to have worked as advertised. I now have a system checkpoint at the time of the system restore reset, my manual checkpoint from b) of the little test, and a new checkpoint from the end of the restore test. (And the shortcut was restored.) I didn't think to check out the wininit.ini from your first discussion since you said to do the restore reset first. I wish I had, for curiousity if nothing else. In any event it's not there now and I haven't seen that problem today. The system restore reset must have cleaned up the whole thing. Thank you very much! -- Joe "Mike M" wrote: Joe, What follows are various ramblings, with the first part related to the reboot message and lack of checkpoints after which I comment about the message you are seeing when attempting to create a check point. I would start with 2) and only follow my comments at 1) if 2) doesn't solve the problem. 1) Reboot message and lack of checkpoints When you attempt to start system restore (whichever method you use is immaterial) and you see the message about restoring your PC, open Windows Explorer and look to see whether you have a file name wininit.ini in your Windows folder. If yes, then that is the reason for the message as the presence of this file indicates that the system is in the middle of an install or uninstall and has yet to complete the job which will be done when the system next boots at which point the instructions contained in wininit.ini will be processed and the file renamed wininit.bak. So if this is the case the question now becomes what is it that is creating the wininit.ini file and why. Do you have some clean up utility installed that is being used to perhaps delete index.dat or other "in use" files each time the system boots? This same utility could also be the reason why you have no restore points as it is cleaning them. Have a look at the contents of wininit.ini, it is a plain text file and can be opened using notepad. It will have one of more lines where a file is either deleted or renamed. What are the files as knowing this might help identify what is creating the wininit.ini file and what it is doing. 2) Error message when attempting to create a manual checkpoint. Try resetting system restore which has in the past been all that is required to fix this somewhat rare error message which is, I think, due to a damaged system restore configuration file (my records show less than 10 reports in four years). To reset system resto System | Performance | File System | Troubleshooting and check "Disable System Restore", Apply and IMMEDIATELY reboot. This will flush you restore folder and erase all checkpoints, then, System | Performance | File System | Troubleshooting and uncheck "Disable System Restore", Apply and again IMMEDIATELY reboot. This should now automatically create a new checkpoint immediately following the restart. Finally adjust the space allocated to the restore folder, System | Performance | File System | Hard Disk and adjust the restore slider to your preferred setting. A figure of 200MB is normally more than adequate for day to day use allowing perhaps a week of checkpoints to be available although increasing this to perhaps 400-500MB for a few days during periods of large installs such Microsoft Office is advisable. Please try the following quick check and see how far you get and what messages you see. a) Create a shortcut on your desktop to a file (any file). b) Create a manual checkpoint Could you create a checkpoint? If not what error message did you see? c) Delete the shortcut d) Restore your PC to the checkpoint you created. Was the shortcut restored? Did you see any error messages? e) Reboot your PC Was the checkpoint retained? Please post back with details of how you get on. -- Mike Maltby Joe wrote: After my PC (with WinME) has run for awhile, if I attempt to start System Restore from Help and Support, it displays the message "System Restore cannot run until you restart the computer. Please restart the computer, and then run System Restore again." After restarting the PC, System Restore does start, but has no restore points. The PC idles a lot, and has been used several days in a row, so you'd think it had enough down time to set the normal restore points. When I attempt to enter a manual restore point, I get this message: ! An error has occurred in the script on this page. Line: 63 Char: 5 Error: Object doesn't support this property or method Code: 0 URL: res://rstrui.exe/SRUI-ConfRP.htm Do you want to continue running scripts on this page? Yes/No Either answer blocks any further inputs. I can delete the System Restore GUI and start over from Help and Support repeatably with the same result. Any suggestions? Thanks! |
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Joe,
I don't think that you would have found a wininit.ini file but nevertheless you can still look and see if you have a wininit.bak file in your Windows folder. The last modified time stamp will tell you when your system last used the wininit mechanism to delete or move a file that is normally locked when Win Me is running. I'm pleased to read that my fix, simple as it was, helped you repair your system. Don't worry about the first section of my previous reply. I rather stupidly started writing my reply before I had read all of your post and initially thought that the problem was simply one of your being told of the need to reboot the system each time you wanted to use system restore. Reading the rest of your post, which BTW was an excellent post containing all the required information to help find the cause of the problem, then told me the problem was unlikely to be caused by the presence of a wininit.ini file but rather by a more general problem with system restore's current configuration files. Files which are rebuilt by disabling and then re-enabling system restore. Thanks for the feedback and glad to have been of some help. -- Mike Maltby MS-MVP Windows Joe wrote: Hi, Mike, Your 2) fix seems to have worked as advertised. I now have a system checkpoint at the time of the system restore reset, my manual checkpoint from b) of the little test, and a new checkpoint from the end of the restore test. (And the shortcut was restored.) I didn't think to check out the wininit.ini from your first discussion since you said to do the restore reset first. I wish I had, for curiousity if nothing else. In any event it's not there now and I haven't seen that problem today. The system restore reset must have cleaned up the whole thing. Thank you very much! |
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