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"Jeff Richards" wrote in message ... It was almost completely ineffective. There may have been a few people who though they risked being disconnected if caught, but AFAIK it was just part of a fear campaign that had no teeth. But the login app was so badly written that it caused endless headaches. I lost track of how many revisions it was up to before they finally abandoned it. LOL That reminds me of something going way back to the early 1960's in the US If you dealt with AT&T for your phones...you did not own them... they were leased to you. So if one wanted an extention phone... you were supposed to pay AT&T a monthly fee for it. Most folks just went out to a surplus store and purchased their own phones... but then usually disconnected the bells. The rumor was that AT&T could detect the "ring" current and determine the number of phones one actually had. Never heard of somone gettiing "busted" though. Now those old dial phones are worth a lot of money to the antique collectors! Jeff Richards MS MVP (Windows - Shell/User) "glee" wrote in message ... "Jeff Richards" wrote in message ... snip Hi Jeff, I'm not sure how effective that would have been at preventing more than one machine from being connected. We had a few machines connected via ADSL at work years ago, using a log-on app on the one computer directly connected, and simply used Internet Connection Sharing (ICS) on that machine to connect the other systems to the Internet. -- Glen Ventura, MS MVP Windows, A+ http://dts-l.net/ http://dts-l.net/goodpost.htm |
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philo wrote: LOL That reminds me of something going way back to the early 1960's in the US If you dealt with AT&T for your phones...you did not own them... they were leased to you. So if one wanted an extention phone... you were supposed to pay AT&T a monthly fee for it. Most folks just went out to a surplus store and purchased their own phones... but then usually disconnected the bells. The rumor was that AT&T could detect the "ring" current and determine the number of phones one actually had. Never heard of somone gettiing "busted" though. Now those old dial phones are worth a lot of money to the antique collectors! They did use the 'ring current' to detect more than one phone. I know, I had just pruchased a cheap telephone for my bedroom and I got a call from the telephone company telling me that I had more than one phone. Of course I denied it. Hell, I only had it connected for about a day. They sent over a tech to check the situation but I had alread disconnected the second phone and stashed it. The lady from the telephone company was adament that there were two phones when she checked, but the teck told her there was only one. She told him that the ring current showed only one now but that it showed more than one before. She didn't wamt to back down but the tech said to forget it. PS: I just threw out my old desktop dial phone earlier this year. Damn |
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"Buffalo" wrote in message ... philo wrote: LOL That reminds me of something going way back to the early 1960's in the US If you dealt with AT&T for your phones...you did not own them... they were leased to you. So if one wanted an extention phone... you were supposed to pay AT&T a monthly fee for it. Most folks just went out to a surplus store and purchased their own phones... but then usually disconnected the bells. The rumor was that AT&T could detect the "ring" current and determine the number of phones one actually had. Never heard of somone gettiing "busted" though. Now those old dial phones are worth a lot of money to the antique collectors! They did use the 'ring current' to detect more than one phone. I know, I had just pruchased a cheap telephone for my bedroom and I got a call from the telephone company telling me that I had more than one phone. Of course I denied it. Hell, I only had it connected for about a day. They sent over a tech to check the situation but I had alread disconnected the second phone and stashed it. The lady from the telephone company was adament that there were two phones when she checked, but the teck told her there was only one. She told him that the ring current showed only one now but that it showed more than one before. She didn't wamt to back down but the tech said to forget it. PS: I just threw out my old desktop dial phone earlier this year. Damn WOW!!! So they DID check! |
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"Lil' Dave" wrote in message ... "Don/Gen" wrote in message ... Anyone using, without problems, Win 98se on a LAN behind a NAT router with WOW as their ISP? Their FAQ's list Win 2000 as the minimum OS. I sent WOW support this same question and was told it is possible but they can't guarantee speeds! Would wire my Desktop 98se into the router and use wireless for two XP laptops. Don Dunno the specifics for your case. Lived in Eastern Virginia and subscribed to Cox cable many years ago (2001). Had 2 PCs connected to cable internet. One was dual boot NT/98SE. Other one was ME version. Originally, the installer came out and connected the modem to the NIC. Installed the software to one PC in 98SE (used DI to backup prior to his installation). Then, used DI to backup the post installation. Don't remember how, and what I did, but managed to configure the preinstallation to work without their software. Noted these settings for the Netgear NAT router (no built-in hub). This worked as well. Then, placed a hub between PC and the router. Added the PC. Later, added a laptop. This worked fine as well. So did the LAN, as I used shared drives. What was a problem was when I converted one PC to XP. The network installation was not recognized as I used netbeui protocol. Won't go into it, but I retained the protocol and got XP to work as well. Now? Moved to rural TX some 4 years ago. Phone modem. Still got the old router and hub in the closet. One PC multiboot XP/ME/98SE. -- Dave I would like to thank all of you, philo, 98 Guy, Sunny, Jeff Richards, Glee, Buffalo and Lil' Dave for all of your help with my question. WOW provides broadband Internet cable service along with, TV and telephone. They compete with TimeWarner RoadRunner. My Win 98se is a PIII 866MHz with 512 of Ram. If a newer OS is need for the initial setup I can always use the XP Laptop and once up and running behind the NAT router, wire in the 98se. I will have to ask them a few more questions that have been raised here. Sorry for the delay in responding but I just got back into town after a 13 hour day! Don |
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In message , philo
writes: [] That reminds me of something going way back to the early 1960's in the US If you dealt with AT&T for your phones...you did not own them... they were leased to you. So if one wanted an extention phone... you were supposed to In the UK, the same applied (for the only supplier, the General Post Office or GPO). pay AT&T a monthly fee for it. Most folks just went out to a surplus store and purchased their own phones... On the whole, I think most people here _didn't_ do that. Very few people had more than one "instrument". but then usually disconnected the bells. The rumor was that AT&T could detect the "ring" current and determine the number of phones one actually had. Never heard of somone gettiing "busted" though. Now those old dial phones are worth a lot of money to the antique collectors! [] Getting off-topic, but I wonder how much longer exchanges will support pulse dialling. It's a party trick to surprise youngsters, to bang out a number on the 'phone rest. (Difficult with today's longer numbers, mind.) -- J. P. Gilliver. UMRA: 1960/1985 MB++G.5AL(+++)IS-P--Ch+(p)Ar+T[?]H+Sh0!:`)DNAf ** http://www.soft255.demon.co.uk/G6JPG-PC/JPGminPC.htm for ludicrously outdated thoughts on PCs. ** "Bother," said Pooh, as Eeyore sneezed the crack all over Owl. |
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philo wrote: "Buffalo" wrote in message ... philo wrote: LOL That reminds me of something going way back to the early 1960's in the US If you dealt with AT&T for your phones...you did not own them... they were leased to you. So if one wanted an extention phone... you were supposed to pay AT&T a monthly fee for it. Most folks just went out to a surplus store and purchased their own phones... but then usually disconnected the bells. The rumor was that AT&T could detect the "ring" current and determine the number of phones one actually had. Never heard of somone gettiing "busted" though. Now those old dial phones are worth a lot of money to the antique collectors! They did use the 'ring current' to detect more than one phone. I know, I had just pruchased a cheap telephone for my bedroom and I got a call from the telephone company telling me that I had more than one phone. Of course I denied it. Hell, I only had it connected for about a day. They sent over a tech to check the situation but I had alread disconnected the second phone and stashed it. The lady from the telephone company was adament that there were two phones when she checked, but the teck told her there was only one. She told him that the ring current showed only one now but that it showed more than one before. She didn't wamt to back down but the tech said to forget it. PS: I just threw out my old desktop dial phone earlier this year. Damn WOW!!! So they DID check! Yes INDEED! |
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On Tue, 2 Dec 2008 01:18:45 +0000, "J. P. Gilliver (John)"
wrote: Getting off-topic, but I wonder how much longer exchanges will support pulse dialling. It's a party trick to surprise youngsters, to bang out a number on the 'phone rest. (Difficult with today's longer numbers, mind.) heh. we were put up in a student hostel in a city on the other side of the country while attending a conference, back in the pre-cellphone days. There was a phone in the corridor for the students to take incoming calls. Dial phone without a dial. Used the hookswitch several times to call home. |
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"spot the fake" wrote in message ... On Tue, 2 Dec 2008 01:18:45 +0000, "J. P. Gilliver (John)" wrote: Getting off-topic, but I wonder how much longer exchanges will support pulse dialling. It's a party trick to surprise youngsters, to bang out a number on the 'phone rest. (Difficult with today's longer numbers, mind.) heh. we were put up in a student hostel in a city on the other side of the country while attending a conference, back in the pre-cellphone days. There was a phone in the corridor for the students to take incoming calls. Dial phone without a dial. Used the hookswitch several times to call home. Yep...I recall being able to dial numbers like that...but had trouble if it was beyond six of seven! |
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