I used to have 7 partitions, now I have 14. Sigh.

teebo wrote in newsp.uk7c0olebr8ivg@300pl:


Correct: DOS has no screen grab function. But there are
DOS utilities for this purpose (loaded TSR at boot,
activated by hotkey.)

I have used a screen grabbing program called snarf that is
nice but do save the image in the current directory,
anyone know a screen grab tsr (preferably open source) that
can be set to save the images in a specific directory?

best whould be the kind that save textscreens as
image-files (fileformat doesn't mather) and not textfiles.

I know nothing about it - having never used it - but I can post
the one I found in my pile of stuff for you somewhere, like in
"old".



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"J. P. Gilliver (John)" wrote in
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SNIP

Yes, but the knowledge that you have to develop or get
developed the film is a putoff, however marginal. Even the
cheapest digital camera should be able to do that.

I can not argue with that, but for a thanatoid, the horror of
getting a camera out of its pouch and using it to take
photographs of things that mean nothing surpasses even the
horror of going to a one-hour developing shop.

Assuming you are in character mode, and have an old
parallel-port printer that can work in basic text mode,
then the Prt Sc button in DOS will usually actually print
the screen(!), if that's any help. Not quite a screen grab,
but possibly useful. []

VERY good point, and (you won't be surprised) I have just such
equipment, WITH DOS drivers. but it's too late. Zero filled etc.
Maybe next time (HAH!)

How did the Acronis thing work out, BTW?


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teebo wrote in newsp.uk7h8ivybr8ivg@300pl:

Top-posted intro: thanks for the humor in this post. I needed it
after the last 2 days!

don't have a digital camera. Mainly because I have 2 35mm
cameras and I can't remember when I last used one for
anything.

hehe the old cameras had the huge disadvantage that each
photo costs money, so you can't just take photos randomly..
our old camera was used only for xmas, vacations, and a
photo or two at birthdays... when looking at the old
photoalbum it is xmas, summer, xmas, birthday, summer,
xmas... ;-)

I just don't like taking photos anymore. I loved it when I was
19, did a lot of stuff.

Exactly - it's a basic disk partitioning thing - and I
tried about 5 different partition tools from Hiren's CD
and NONE showed anything wrong except Ranish - but since
there is NO

perhaps ranish is better then the others then (I havent
used it myself)

Well, I remember when I first saw it, it scared the crap out of
me. But it WOULD seem that it is the best of the lot - since it
was the only one that indicated any errors.

and actually checks for errors before it
begin, the other perhaps just assume the disk is correctly
partitioned.

I find it hard to believe ANY partitioning program would not
check for errors - so, even worse, SEE NO ERRORS.

What does gparted say?

I don't believe I tried that one, maybe it wasn't on the Hiren's
disc, or I had had enough before I got to it.

(btw what is the equivalence today of NortonDiscDoctor we
always used to use back in the days? I suspect that my old
NDD will say "fat32?? blaeh ugh.. LBA48??? pah gurgle yech
blaeh...")

I started in '92 or so, never used any Norton stuff. Used XTree
for DOS a LOT, still do.

documentation from Ranish and I am not "comfortable" with
delving into the GUTS of the computer, I am a little
afraid to use it.

time to learn more guts now :-)

Sigh.

(as long as you have your stuff backed up to dvd nothing
bad can really happen... well as long you don't fail
with flashing bios rom on old computers perhaps)

I /used/ to be SO afraid of doing that. Now, after spending the
day trying to install Win95 from scratch and TRYING to tweak it
as I go along, let me tell you, flashing BIOS's is child's play
compared to installing Windows.

the MBR yesterday (before I fdisked it) and may have
caused this sudden and bizarre behavior. I can't
virus-scan since I don't have anything installed. Catch
22.

well if there is a program running that as kind of
diskmanager in the background that fiddles with all the
disk accesses then I guess on can get all kinds of
problems.

Exactly.

so always remember to set bios to first boot from the cd
when you want to boot clean, and not rely on the boot-to-cd
from grub bootmenu or similar.

Amen.

about virus-scanning, I think there still are antivirus
programs for dos or? perhaps not any more...

F-Prot DOS which I used for years is RIP. ESET NOD has a DOS
version - I think it's the only one left.

wouldn't trust an antivursprogram that is installed at the
system I suspect have virus... somethin like a bootcd that
have a antivrus program autostarting would be nice....

Well, that was the problem, I didn't have anything like that...
Putting the ESET-DOS on a CDR just seemed too much work and I
knew in my heart that zero-filling was in my immediate future
anyway...

I don't know about that - I /believe/ the MBR is at the
start of C: and therefore IS restored by the Acronis - but
I could be wrong. (I REALLY have to read up on the MBR,
finally!)

hehe... wikipedia have nice info to start with I think

Yup. Sigh.

lets say you have 1 primary partition and an extend

SNIP

on the disk and most programs just ignores any primary
partition that comes after an extended one everything works
nice (except ranish that says "hey man there is poopoo in
your partition list here...!")

sounds possible? :-)

I think that is pretty much exactly what happened. Hopefully the
evil has been buried by zero-filling and will not return.

Well, I don't put movies or 3-CD games on the machine, and
I prefer to have the thing organized by partitions instead
of 70 directories in the root of C. This machine (40GB HD)
has 16 partitions and it's working out fine.

yeah I sort my stuff into partitions too. well there used
to be nice order. but now the disk is so full that I have
begun to save music on the program-partition because the
right one is full, and my directory for
installationprograms have been split into two partitions
and those huge-stuff-to-sort-later seems to have got
self-awareness and threatens to consume the
stuff-I-fiddle-with-right-now directories.

Sounds very familiar. I re-label the partitions occasionally due
to having to move stuff around since it takes so long to get
those round-to-its.

Stangely I have
7 partitions too.. (must be a magic number) but are divided
into two 120GB disks...

I would have 20 partitions on each!

(and then I have that 'should be
copied back to the harddisk again' dvd with things I
temporarly removed to make some elbow space last xmas)

I don't mind the work

ohh.. this sounds intresting ...

Yes, the words of someone who hasn't installed Windows in YEARS
and forgotten how much fun it is. Well, after 3 or 4 hours, I've
had enough. I am going back to a 2 yr old Acronis image and just
deleting everything I won't need now.

you don't mind doing a small review webpage of those
win98-packs and stuff with recomendations of what to
use/combine and when and if they work with non-english
versions and... ...no? ;-)

To quote Charlie Brown... "AAAAUUUGGHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!"

That is the correct /full/ procedure, I would leave some
things out since I am not going to ever connect that
machine to the net, etc.

but... but.. that whould be like... cheating! :-D

Not only that, but among all the delights of a new install,
there is perhaps nothing more fun than unchecking all the stupid
stuff in "install options", like "document templates", and disk
compression.

Maybe a weekend a few weeks away, but hopefully SOMEDAY.

soon it is xmas!

Hopefully by then. Sigh.

Thank you /very/ much for all your helpful advice.

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teebo wrote in newsp.uk6uesx6br8ivg@300pl:

I tried to install Windows, it wouldn't. I can't
remember the message, whatever.

I'm too lazy to write down stuff too, so nowadays I just
take a photo of the screen with a digital camera, in
case I need the error message later

That's a good idea - especially since most of those
messages are in DOS and I am not aware of a screengrab
function in DOS. But I don't have a digital camera. Mainly
because I have 2 35mm cameras and I can't remember when I
last used one for anything.


If you don't have a camera, you can just turn the
brightness up and burn the error message right into the
phosphors...

Then just replace the monitor and set the old one aside G

You bring up a tragic event which I have not mentioned, since it
brings tears to my eyes... The color problems my 11-yr old
Trinitron developed were becoming unbearable on the eyes, so I
did the unthinkable... (Sony won't fix CRT's anymore.)

No, not an LCD /yet/...

An LG 17". (I have a 1994 HP2804 but it will only run at 60Hz at
800x600 and that is not acceptable on the eyes either.)

There was /nothing/ else except used monitors worse than my
2804. I was lucky to find ONE store that had a few of these LG
CRT's!

It's actually not bad except for a couple of areas with
geometric distortion, which some people might not even notice,
but I sure as hell do. But I don't care anymore. And I /did/
thus discover ONE advantage of LCD's. Aside from the aspect
ratio insanity, there CAN be no geometric distortion since it's
a hardware grid of pixels.

Well, this LG probably won't last very long...

BTW, I (needless to say) found a DOS screen capture program on
one of my "zipper" CD-R's.




I don't usually bother with screen capture software.
If there is something I want to take note of, I just write it down
and throw it in my pile of notes.
Of course it would be impossible to sort through that mess.

As to LCD's except for my workbench where I still have 3 crt's...
everything else here is LCD's.

Sure makes the desks less crowded.
I got a KDS 22" widescreen for about $200 (USD) and it works great.

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Assuming you are in character mode, and have an old
parallel-port printer that can work in basic text mode,
then the Prt Sc button in DOS will usually actually print
the screen(!), if that's any help. Not quite a screen grab,
but possibly useful. []

VERY good point, and (you won't be surprised) I have just such
equipment, WITH DOS drivers. but it's too late. Zero filled etc.

If can operate in basic text mode, shouldn't need drivers.

Maybe next time (HAH!)

How did the Acronis thing work out, BTW?

I haven't got the XP machine (netbook) yet; I'm waiting to see how the
market develops (and possibly for the after-Christmas slump in prices).

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