Win 98se and WOW as ISP

"Jeff Richards" wrote in message
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It was almost completely ineffective. There may have been a few people who
though they risked being disconnected if caught, but AFAIK it was just
part
of a fear campaign that had no teeth. But the login app was so badly
written
that it caused endless headaches. I lost track of how many revisions it
was
up to before they finally abandoned it.




LOL

That reminds me of something going way back to the early 1960's in the US

If you dealt with AT&T for your phones...you did not own them...
they were leased to you. So if one wanted an extention phone... you were
supposed to
pay AT&T a monthly fee for it. Most folks just went out to a surplus store
and purchased their own phones...
but then usually disconnected the bells. The rumor was that AT&T could
detect the "ring" current
and determine the number of phones one actually had. Never heard of somone
gettiing "busted" though.

Now those old dial phones are worth a lot of money to the antique
collectors!

Jeff Richards
MS MVP (Windows - Shell/User)
"glee" wrote in message
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"Jeff Richards" wrote in message
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Hi Jeff,
I'm not sure how effective that would have been at preventing more than
one machine from being connected. We had a few machines connected via
ADSL at work years ago, using a log-on app on the one computer directly
connected, and simply used Internet Connection Sharing (ICS) on that
machine to connect the other systems to the Internet.
--
Glen Ventura, MS MVP Windows, A+
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http://dts-l.net/goodpost.htm

philo wrote:
LOL

That reminds me of something going way back to the early 1960's in
the US

If you dealt with AT&T for your phones...you did not own them...
they were leased to you. So if one wanted an extention phone... you
were supposed to
pay AT&T a monthly fee for it. Most folks just went out to a surplus
store and purchased their own phones...
but then usually disconnected the bells. The rumor was that AT&T could
detect the "ring" current
and determine the number of phones one actually had. Never heard of
somone gettiing "busted" though.

Now those old dial phones are worth a lot of money to the antique
collectors!


They did use the 'ring current' to detect more than one phone. I know, I had
just pruchased a cheap telephone for my bedroom and I got a call from the
telephone company telling me that I had more than one phone. Of course I
denied it. Hell, I only had it connected for about a day. They sent over a
tech to check the situation but I had alread disconnected the second phone
and stashed it.
The lady from the telephone company was adament that there were two phones
when she checked, but the teck told her there was only one. She told him
that the ring current showed only one now but that it showed more than one
before. She didn't wamt to back down but the tech said to forget it.

PS: I just threw out my old desktop dial phone earlier this year. Damn

"Buffalo" wrote in message
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philo wrote:
LOL

That reminds me of something going way back to the early 1960's in
the US

If you dealt with AT&T for your phones...you did not own them...
they were leased to you. So if one wanted an extention phone... you
were supposed to
pay AT&T a monthly fee for it. Most folks just went out to a surplus
store and purchased their own phones...
but then usually disconnected the bells. The rumor was that AT&T could
detect the "ring" current
and determine the number of phones one actually had. Never heard of
somone gettiing "busted" though.

Now those old dial phones are worth a lot of money to the antique
collectors!


They did use the 'ring current' to detect more than one phone. I know, I
had
just pruchased a cheap telephone for my bedroom and I got a call from the
telephone company telling me that I had more than one phone. Of course I
denied it. Hell, I only had it connected for about a day. They sent over a
tech to check the situation but I had alread disconnected the second phone
and stashed it.
The lady from the telephone company was adament that there were two phones
when she checked, but the teck told her there was only one. She told him
that the ring current showed only one now but that it showed more than one
before. She didn't wamt to back down but the tech said to forget it.

PS: I just threw out my old desktop dial phone earlier this year. Damn




WOW!!!


So they DID check!

"Lil' Dave" wrote in message
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"Don/Gen" wrote in message
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Anyone using, without problems, Win 98se on a LAN behind a NAT router
with
WOW as their ISP? Their FAQ's list Win 2000 as the minimum OS. I sent
WOW
support this same question and was told it is possible but they can't
guarantee speeds! Would wire my Desktop 98se into the router and use
wireless for two XP laptops.

Don



Dunno the specifics for your case.
Lived in Eastern Virginia and subscribed to Cox cable many years ago
(2001).
Had 2 PCs connected to cable internet. One was dual boot NT/98SE. Other
one was ME version. Originally, the installer came out and connected the
modem to the NIC. Installed the software to one PC in 98SE (used DI to
backup prior to his installation). Then, used DI to backup the post
installation. Don't remember how, and what I did, but managed to
configure
the preinstallation to work without their software. Noted these settings
for the Netgear NAT router (no built-in hub). This worked as well. Then,
placed a hub between PC and the router. Added the PC. Later, added a
laptop. This worked fine as well. So did the LAN, as I used shared
drives.

What was a problem was when I converted one PC to XP. The network
installation was not recognized as I used netbeui protocol. Won't go into
it, but I retained the protocol and got XP to work as well.

Now? Moved to rural TX some 4 years ago. Phone modem. Still got the old
router and hub in the closet. One PC multiboot XP/ME/98SE.
--
Dave



I would like to thank all of you, philo, 98 Guy, Sunny, Jeff Richards, Glee,
Buffalo and Lil' Dave for all of your help with my question.

WOW provides broadband Internet cable service along with, TV and telephone.
They compete with TimeWarner RoadRunner.

My Win 98se is a PIII 866MHz with 512 of Ram. If a newer OS is need for the
initial setup I can always use the XP Laptop and once up and running behind
the NAT router, wire in the 98se. I will have to ask them a few more
questions that have been raised here.

Sorry for the delay in responding but I just got back into town after a 13
hour day!

Don

In message , philo
writes:
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That reminds me of something going way back to the early 1960's in the US

If you dealt with AT&T for your phones...you did not own them...
they were leased to you. So if one wanted an extention phone... you were
supposed to

In the UK, the same applied (for the only supplier, the General Post
Office or GPO).

pay AT&T a monthly fee for it. Most folks just went out to a surplus store
and purchased their own phones...

On the whole, I think most people here _didn't_ do that. Very few people
had more than one "instrument".

but then usually disconnected the bells. The rumor was that AT&T could
detect the "ring" current
and determine the number of phones one actually had. Never heard of somone
gettiing "busted" though.

Now those old dial phones are worth a lot of money to the antique
collectors!
[]
Getting off-topic, but I wonder how much longer exchanges will support
pulse dialling. It's a party trick to surprise youngsters, to bang out a
number on the 'phone rest. (Difficult with today's longer numbers,
mind.)
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outdated thoughts on PCs. **

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philo wrote:
"Buffalo" wrote in message
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philo wrote:
LOL

That reminds me of something going way back to the early 1960's in
the US

If you dealt with AT&T for your phones...you did not own them...
they were leased to you. So if one wanted an extention phone... you
were supposed to
pay AT&T a monthly fee for it. Most folks just went out to a surplus
store and purchased their own phones...
but then usually disconnected the bells. The rumor was that AT&T
could detect the "ring" current
and determine the number of phones one actually had. Never heard of
somone gettiing "busted" though.

Now those old dial phones are worth a lot of money to the antique
collectors!


They did use the 'ring current' to detect more than one phone. I
know, I had
just pruchased a cheap telephone for my bedroom and I got a call
from the telephone company telling me that I had more than one
phone. Of course I denied it. Hell, I only had it connected for
about a day. They sent over a tech to check the situation but I had
alread disconnected the second phone and stashed it.
The lady from the telephone company was adament that there were two
phones when she checked, but the teck told her there was only one.
She told him that the ring current showed only one now but that it
showed more than one before. She didn't wamt to back down but the
tech said to forget it.

PS: I just threw out my old desktop dial phone earlier this year.
Damn




WOW!!!


So they DID check!

Yes INDEED!

On Tue, 2 Dec 2008 01:18:45 +0000, "J. P. Gilliver (John)"
wrote:

Getting off-topic, but I wonder how much longer exchanges will support
pulse dialling. It's a party trick to surprise youngsters, to bang out a
number on the 'phone rest. (Difficult with today's longer numbers,
mind.)

heh. we were put up in a student hostel in a city on the other side of the
country while attending a conference, back in the pre-cellphone days. There was
a phone in the corridor for the students to take incoming calls. Dial phone
without a dial. Used the hookswitch several times to call home.

"spot the fake" wrote in message
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On Tue, 2 Dec 2008 01:18:45 +0000, "J. P. Gilliver (John)"
wrote:

Getting off-topic, but I wonder how much longer exchanges will support
pulse dialling. It's a party trick to surprise youngsters, to bang out a
number on the 'phone rest. (Difficult with today's longer numbers,
mind.)

heh. we were put up in a student hostel in a city on the other side of
the
country while attending a conference, back in the pre-cellphone days.
There was
a phone in the corridor for the students to take incoming calls. Dial
phone
without a dial. Used the hookswitch several times to call home.


Yep...I recall being able to dial numbers like that...but had trouble if it
was beyond six of seven!