No motherboard chipset driver - will AGP or PCIe video card driverfunction?

"98 Guy" wrote in message ...
philo wrote:

Nvidia does have a "universal" installer for the 6600 video
card (about a 40 meg download)

http://www.nvidia.com/Download/Scan.aspx?lang=en-us

is it possible to download that 40MB file without using
internet explorer?

Now if I just could download the thing....

Although I did not specifically try to download that file...
it does say that it requires IE, Firefox or Netscape...

Philo claims the following link:

http://www.nvidia.com/Download/Scan.aspx?lang=en-us

is a "universal installer" for "6600 video card", but what it really is
is a link to an activeX or Java control that performs some sort of
automated video hardware detection mechanism and presumably would also
kick-in an automatic download of the required Nvidia driver.


Yes it did work for me

but I had to allow the Husdawg LLC plug in
which of course needs a compliant browser

which they claim is IE, Firefox of Netscape.

On my machine with Nvidia video,
it just detected it and went on to the driver download...

however I tried it on a machine without an Nvidia video card
and it does not proceed on to the driver download site.

I certainly don't like the way they do things...
but I suppose it's made for people who don't know what the hell they are
downloading





When I go through the typical Nvidia download-driver proceedure, and
select:

Product type: GeForce
Product series: GeForce series 6
Operating system: Windows 98
Language: English (US)

Then (search), I end up he

http://www.nvidia.com/object/win9x_81.98.html

Windows 9x/ME
ForceWare Release 80
Version: 81.98
Release Date: December 21, 2005

Primary download site:

http://download.nvidia.com/Windows/8...9x_english.exe

Perhaps that is what Philo is identifying as a "universal installer" for
"6600 video card" - I don't know.

PS: This link:

http://www.nvidia.com/Download/Scan.aspx?lang=en-us

Results in an attempt to download a java applet called:

name: SRLApplet
publisher: Husdawg, LLC
from: htto://www.nvidia.com

I choose to download it (what the hell). After a minute or two, the
applet started to show some signs of life, and then I got this:

The NVIDIA Smart Scan was unable to evaluate your system
hardware. Please use Option 1 to manually find drivers
for your NVIDIA products. return_status:fail

The display adapter on the system I'm currently using is:

Nvidia GeForce4 MX 440, AGP8X

No idea why the applet is failing...

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When I go through the typical Nvidia download-driver proceedure, and
select:

Product type: GeForce
Product series: GeForce series 6
Operating system: Windows 98
Language: English (US)

Then (search), I end up he

http://www.nvidia.com/object/win9x_81.98.html

Windows 9x/ME
ForceWare Release 80
Version: 81.98
Release Date: December 21, 2005

Primary download site:

http://download.nvidia.com/Windows/8...9x_english.exe

Perhaps that is what Philo is identifying as a "universal installer" for
"6600 video card" - I don't know.

PS: This link:

http://www.nvidia.com/Download/Scan.aspx?lang=en-us

Results in an attempt to download a java applet called:

name: SRLApplet
publisher: Husdawg, LLC
from: htto://www.nvidia.com

I choose to download it (what the hell). After a minute or two, the
applet started to show some signs of life, and then I got this:

The NVIDIA Smart Scan was unable to evaluate your system
hardware. Please use Option 1 to manually find drivers
for your NVIDIA products. return_status:fail

The display adapter on the system I'm currently using is:

Nvidia GeForce4 MX 440, AGP8X

No idea why the applet is failing...



I just went here and got the win98 driver


http://www.nvidia.com/object/win9x_81.98.html

I had to click on the agreement first
then the download started

The browser I was using was K-Meleon

In message , 98 Guy writes
[]
Hence my question - are the chipset drivers necessary for the video
card drivers to operate properly, such that the user can set the display
mode to something beyond 16-color vga mode.
[]
I _think_ I've had a system give me more than 16 colour 640x480 by
selecting one of the _other_ options from the _generic_ list (something
like "expanded VGA card" or similar). I think I've also had this
approach _not_ work; probably depends on the particular hardware
present.

I have a feeling (too long ago now) that it may not have given me all
the card in question was capable of, but definitely more colours and
pixels than the default.
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"J. P. Gilliver (John)" wrote:

are the chipset drivers necessary for the video card drivers to
operate properly, such that the user can set the display
mode to something beyond 16-color vga mode.

I _think_ I've had a system give me more than 16 colour 640x480
by selecting one of the _other_ options from the _generic_ list...
I think I've also had this approach _not_ work;

Perhaps this is related - but is win-98 safe mode capable of anything
other than 640 x 480 x 16?

Perhaps this is related - but is win-98 safe mode capable of anything
other than 640 x 480 x 16?

yes, there is more talk about using higher resolution in safe mode he
http://www.msfn.org/board/Improving-...sa-t69569.html
but you only get 60 Hz refresh rate?
when I read about the vesa-driver at
http://bearwindows.boot-land.net/vbe9x.htm
it says that video bios refresh rate code is absent/faulty for
modern ati/nvidia graphic cards :-(
but ok I guess one isn't using safe mode for longer periods anyway...


the system.cb (that should be merged with c:\windows\system.cb)
in SVGA.zip at msfn says:

[boot]
386grabber=vgadib.3gr
display.drv=svga256.drv

[386Enh]
display=vddsvga.386

[svga256.drv]
dpi=96
resolution=3
LatchCapable=Yes
svgamode=56