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  #21  
Old November 26th 08, 08:30 AM posted to microsoft.public.win98.gen_discussion
MEB[_2_]
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Default Changing Windows 98 Administrator

If I remember correctly the last nVidia driver that fully supported the TNT2
was 61.76 [for 9X]. Later drivers claimed support, however they seemed to
cause errors. The 77.72 driver had partial support though my notes show I
had some issues... could have been the OS updates at the time or DirectX
issues.

http://www.nvidia.com/object/win9x_61.76

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"Searcher7" wrote in message
...
| On Nov 25, 11:41 pm, "Buffalo" wrote:
| Searcher7 wrote:
| On Nov 13, 9:24 pm, "J. P. Gilliver (John)"
| wrote:
| In message
|
|
,Searche r
|
|
|
|
| writes [] ... also since I cannot change the
| monitor settings which are stuck at 640 x 480,
|
| Probably need to re-install the correct driver for your video card
| (display adapter) as the one on the disk would be for "your
| brother's" computer and not the one installed on your pc.
|
| Easier said than done. :-(
|
| []
| Yes, you're stuck with the basic VGA driver.
|
| You need to know what video card (not monitor) you have in the PC.
| This
| information will usually be included in the text that appears on
| screen
| in the first few seconds after you turn the PC on from cold (turn on
| your monitor first, as the information will have disappeared by the
| time
| it has warmed up - and/or use the Pause key: this is one of the few
| times it is actually of any use! [Enter allows the PC to carry on.]).
|
| Once you have this information, you need the drivers for it: go to
| the
| manufacturer's website and look for the Windows 98 driver. (You may
| also
| find it at one of the sites like driverguide, but [a] those are full
| of
| ad.s you have to work through, [b] the manufacturer's one is more
| reliable.) Ideally, you want a .exe file, as that will do it all for
| you; if all there is is a .zip (and it doesn't contain a .exe),
| you'll
| have to do the following:
|
| Only for when you _can't_ find a .exe:
|
| Unzip the .zip to a temporary folder. Then right-click on an empty
| part
| of the desktop, and select Properties, then the Settings tab in the
| window that appears, then the Advanced button, then the Adapter tab,
| then the Change button, Next, select specific location* (then Next),
| then (after a brief pause)* Have Disk, and point it to where you
| unzipped the files.
|
| Or, at various points (shown as *) during the above process, you may
| choose to let it do its own thing, since it may already know/have the
| drivers without you having to fetch them: it is likely that you will
| be
| prompted for the Windows 98 disc at some point, though. (If as
| described
| elsewhere you've found you have the .cab files somewhere - such as
| \Winfows\options\cabs - you can point it there when it asks for the
| CD.)
|
| You could also try telling it (at the appropriate point in the above
| sequence) to use generic drivers (rather than a particular
| manufacturer)
| but choose one of the more advanced than the basic VGA card - I
| forget
| the words exactly, but something like "advanced VGA card" is there.
| You
| usually get warnings saying something like "this driver wasn't
| written
| for your hardware", but I've known several systems on which (by
| ignoring
| that warning) you get more than 640x480 at 16 colours.
| --
| J. P. Gilliver. UMRA: 1960/1985
| MB++G.5AL(+++)IS-P--Ch+(p)Ar+T[?]H+Sh0!:`)DNAf
| **http://www.soft255.demon.co.uk/G6JPG-PC/JPGminPC.htmfor
| ludicrously
| outdated thoughts on PCs. **
|
| Vini, Vidi, Velcro (I came, I saw, I stuck around).
|
| @#$%!
|
| Can some tell me how to get around the industry's capitalistic
| roadblocks? All I need is to find and download the latest drivers
| without having to first download and install some "Driver Finder" app
| that I'd have to pay for to use.
|
| The computer is an HP Pavilion 7955, and the video card an NVIDIA TNT2
| GRAPHICS CARD (Part #5185-5340).
|
| Thanks.
|
| Darren Harris
| Staten Island, New York.
|
| I believe you can use the generic Nvidia TNT drivers.
| Just put TNT2 video drivers in Google and you will find many places.
| Or, just go to Nvidia.com and dl.
|
| None of this has helped.
|
| Beside being forced to download and install some JAVA app, all I get
| is this page: http://www.nvidia.com/Download/index.aspx?lang=en-us
|
| There is nothing in "Beta and Archived Drivers", And when I click the
| "Graphics Drivers" button for "Automatically find drivers for my
| NVIDIA products." I also get nothing.
|
| If the card wasn't jammed into the motherboard, I'd try another card
| from a different system.
|
| Darren Harris
| Staten Island, New York.


  #22  
Old November 26th 08, 03:22 PM posted to microsoft.public.win98.gen_discussion
Buffalo
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Default Changing Windows 98 Administrator



Searcher7 wrote:

None of this has helped.

Beside being forced to download and install some JAVA app, all I get
is this page: http://www.nvidia.com/Download/index.aspx?lang=en-us

There is nothing in "Beta and Archived Drivers", And when I click the
"Graphics Drivers" button for "Automatically find drivers for my
NVIDIA products." I also get nothing.

If the card wasn't jammed into the motherboard, I'd try another card
from a different system.

Darren Harris
Staten Island, New York.


I have around 15 different old TNT2 drivers on my computer. I could send you
some if you wish. I had a few favorites and I will try to remember which
ones they were.
They are around 1.5 to 2.5MB in size,
I remember that one of them, the 208 was one of the best for me while others
liked the 2.40 and the 5.32.
I have them ranging from 2.08 to 5.33MrF.
These drivers are for Win95- 98SE

Buffalo

PS: Put "Nvidia 2.08" in Google and see if you can dl it on the internet. I
would be happy to send it to you though.
http://www.nvidia.com/object/win9x_archive.html
The drivers on the above link are way bigger than the ones I have.
If you reply here with an email addy to send them to, I will.
Do not post your full email addy here with out mucking it up or you will get
a lot of spam.
Do something like and then give the
letters to omit or change.
IE: remove the 43 and change kumquat to comcast and omit .invalid and change
..com to .net.


I'm sure you will be able to find others. If not, I would be happy to send
some to you.


  #23  
Old November 26th 08, 04:00 PM posted to microsoft.public.win98.gen_discussion
Buffalo
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Posts: 652
Default Changing Windows 98 Administrator



Searcher7 wrote:
On Nov 13, 9:24 pm, "J. P. Gilliver (John)"
wrote:
In message

,Searche r

writes [] ... also since I cannot change the
monitor settings which are stuck at 640 x 480,


Probably need to re-install the correct driver for your video card
(display adapter) as the one on the disk would be for "your
brother's" computer and not the one installed on your pc.


Easier said than done. :-(


[]
Yes, you're stuck with the basic VGA driver.

You need to know what video card (not monitor) you have in the PC.
This
information will usually be included in the text that appears on
screen
in the first few seconds after you turn the PC on from cold (turn on
your monitor first, as the information will have disappeared by the
time
it has warmed up - and/or use the Pause key: this is one of the few
times it is actually of any use! [Enter allows the PC to carry on.]).

Once you have this information, you need the drivers for it: go to
the
manufacturer's website and look for the Windows 98 driver. (You may
also
find it at one of the sites like driverguide, but [a] those are full
of
ad.s you have to work through, [b] the manufacturer's one is more
reliable.) Ideally, you want a .exe file, as that will do it all for
you; if all there is is a .zip (and it doesn't contain a .exe),
you'll
have to do the following:

Only for when you _can't_ find a .exe:

Unzip the .zip to a temporary folder. Then right-click on an empty
part
of the desktop, and select Properties, then the Settings tab in the
window that appears, then the Advanced button, then the Adapter tab,
then the Change button, Next, select specific location* (then Next),
then (after a brief pause)* Have Disk, and point it to where you
unzipped the files.

Or, at various points (shown as *) during the above process, you may
choose to let it do its own thing, since it may already know/have the
drivers without you having to fetch them: it is likely that you will
be
prompted for the Windows 98 disc at some point, though. (If as
described
elsewhere you've found you have the .cab files somewhere - such as
\Winfows\options\cabs - you can point it there when it asks for the
CD.)

You could also try telling it (at the appropriate point in the above
sequence) to use generic drivers (rather than a particular
manufacturer)
but choose one of the more advanced than the basic VGA card - I
forget
the words exactly, but something like "advanced VGA card" is there.
You
usually get warnings saying something like "this driver wasn't
written
for your hardware", but I've known several systems on which (by
ignoring
that warning) you get more than 640x480 at 16 colours.
--
J. P. Gilliver. UMRA: 1960/1985
MB++G.5AL(+++)IS-P--Ch+(p)Ar+T[?]H+Sh0!:`)DNAf
**http://www.soft255.demon.co.uk/G6JPG-PC/JPGminPC.htmfor
ludicrously
outdated thoughts on PCs. **

Vini, Vidi, Velcro (I came, I saw, I stuck around).


@#$%!

Can some tell me how to get around the industry's capitalistic
roadblocks? All I need is to find and download the latest drivers
without having to first download and install some "Driver Finder" app
that I'd have to pay for to use.

The computer is an HP Pavilion 7955, and the video card an NVIDIA TNT2
GRAPHICS CARD (Part #5185-5340).

Thanks.

Darren Harris
Staten Island, New York.



Read this link as it may help later.
http://www.fixya.com/support/t167295...ator_3_drivers

Did you see my other post regarding the Nvidia drivers for Win95-98SE I have
archived on my computer?


  #24  
Old November 27th 08, 05:01 PM posted to microsoft.public.win98.gen_discussion
Searcher7
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Posts: 22
Default Changing Windows 98 Administrator

On Nov 26, 10:22*am, "Buffalo" wrote:
Searcher7wrote:

None of this has helped.


Beside being forced to download and install some JAVA app, all I get
is this page:http://www.nvidia.com/Download/index.aspx?lang=en-us


There is nothing in "Beta and Archived Drivers", And when I click the
"Graphics Drivers" button for "Automatically find drivers for my
NVIDIA products." I also get nothing.


If the card wasn't jammed into the motherboard, I'd try another card
from a different system.


Darren Harris
Staten Island, New York.


I have around 15 different old TNT2 drivers on my computer. I could send you
some if you wish. I had a few favorites and I will try to remember which
ones they were.
They are around 1.5 to 2.5MB in size,
I remember that one of them, the 208 was one of the best for me while others
liked the 2.40 and the 5.32.
I have them ranging from 2.08 to 5.33MrF.
These drivers are for Win95- 98SE

Buffalo

PS: Put "Nvidia 2.08" *in Google and see if you can dl it on the internet. I
would be happy to send it to you though.http://www.nvidia.com/object/win9x_archive.html
The drivers on the above link are way bigger than the ones I have.
If you reply here with an email addy to send them to, I will.
Do not post your full email addy here with out mucking it up or you will get
a lot of spam.
Do something like * * *and then give the
letters to omit or change.
IE: remove the 43 and change kumquat to comcast and omit .invalid and change
.com to .net.

I'm sure you will be able to find others. If not, I would be happy to send
some to you.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -


I'd appreciate a handful, or more preferrably the links to them, or
search words for the future since I'm trying to put a "completely"
working system together and may have to use the graphics card with
another motherboard and drive.(Providing I can ever get it out of it's
present AGP slot).

The drivers at the link Ben gave me worked. And now I can see things
clearly and without have to use the slide bar to read every sentence
here. :-) (I wish I knew what steps Ben took to get to that specific
page so I can figure out how to do that myself).

Thanks everyone.

Darren Harris
Staten Island, New York.
  #25  
Old November 27th 08, 06:51 PM posted to microsoft.public.win98.gen_discussion
Buffalo
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Posts: 652
Default Changing Windows 98 Administrator



Searcher7 wrote:
On Nov 26, 10:22 am, "Buffalo" wrote:
Searcher7wrote:

None of this has helped.


Beside being forced to download and install some JAVA app, all I get
is this page:http://www.nvidia.com/Download/index.aspx?lang=en-us


There is nothing in "Beta and Archived Drivers", And when I click
the "Graphics Drivers" button for "Automatically find drivers for my
NVIDIA products." I also get nothing.


If the card wasn't jammed into the motherboard, I'd try another card
from a different system.


Darren Harris
Staten Island, New York.


I have around 15 different old TNT2 drivers on my computer. I could
send you
some if you wish. I had a few favorites and I will try to remember
which
ones they were.
They are around 1.5 to 2.5MB in size,
I remember that one of them, the 208 was one of the best for me
while others
liked the 2.40 and the 5.32.
I have them ranging from 2.08 to 5.33MrF.
These drivers are for Win95- 98SE

Buffalo

PS: Put "Nvidia 2.08" in Google and see if you can dl it on the
internet. I
would be happy to send it to you
though.http://www.nvidia.com/object/win9x_archive.html The drivers
on the above link are way bigger than the ones I have.
If you reply here with an email addy to send them to, I will.
Do not post your full email addy here with out mucking it up or you
will get
a lot of spam.
Do something like and then give the
letters to omit or change.
IE: remove the 43 and change kumquat to comcast and omit .invalid
and change .com to .net.

I'm sure you will be able to find others. If not, I would be happy
to send
some to you.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -


I'd appreciate a handful, or more preferrably the links to them, or
search words for the future since I'm trying to put a "completely"
working system together and may have to use the graphics card with
another motherboard and drive.(Providing I can ever get it out of it's
present AGP slot).


Take out the screw that holds it to the case frame and release the little
plastic lock down by the AGP slot and slowly pull up and rock it gently
along the axis of the slot.


The drivers at the link Ben gave me worked. And now I can see things
clearly and without have to use the slide bar to read every sentence
here. :-) (I wish I knew what steps Ben took to get to that specific
page so I can figure out how to do that myself).


If you go to Nvidia.com, type in tnt2 in the upper right search box,
enter,select tnt2,enter select drivers on the left side, enter,choose
'legacy' in the 'Product type' window etc.


Thanks everyone.

Darren Harris
Staten Island, New York.


Put TNT2 drivers in Google.

Good info and tweaks here; esp read on how to install new drivers.
http://www.tweak3d.net/tweak/rivatnt/

The following page has some of the newer drivrs for Win98:
http://www.nvidia.com/object/win9x_archive.html

The following page has some comparisons on different drivers. It calls for
id, but I just cancelled out each time.
They seem to show that the 5.32 ver is very good. I preferred the 2.40 and
the 2.40xf
http://www.rivastation.com/tnt2treiber_e.htm
I never used one that was newer than the 5.33.
I do have many of them from the 2.08 up to 5.33MrF
Let me know if you want me to email some of them to you.
Buffalo

PS: be sure to read the info in the first link on how to 'properly' install
new drivers. It is important.


 




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