Changing IP

Hmm, thought someone might jump in here...

This became important enough for a place on peoplescounsel blog.. sorry,,,
the reply is posted there...

http://peoplescounsel.spaces.live.co...C45!1540.entry

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MEB
http://peoplescounsel.org
a Peoples' counsel

Windows diagnostics/Security/Networking:
http://peoplescounsel.org/ref/windows-main.htm
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"Santander" wrote in message
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| Problem is that all ISP providers must follow directions of local criminal
| agencies/bureau and provide them access to private information about their
| customers and activity, and they do this, otherwise their business will be
| screwed.. I know that this information used for blackmail and pursue
peoples
| for their political convictions, agents follow instructions of a political
| management, but it's impossible to prove this.
|
| S.
|
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| "MEB" meb@not wrote in message
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| "Santander" wrote in message
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| | well, the small ISP has much less customers, not hundreds of thousand.
| | I do not demand from them to allow me constantly change their network
| | configuration, I just worry about a privacy.
| |
| | S.
|
| We all worry about privacy.. the problem is, there never, really, was
any
| privacy out on the Internet. Regardless of what you do to hide, once you
| connect with ANY part of the Internet's network, you have been
identified.
| Go to a web site and its server pulls information. It has to, so it can
| provide you with what you asked for.
| It doesn't matter if you're behind a router or a NAT or a firewall or a
| proxy, they have an address or pass an address which becomes part of the
| sent IP packet... it can't change... UNLESS both the sender and the
| receiver
| run some kind of algorythm which *syncronizes IP generation on the fly*.
| The
| difficulty would be routing, it becomes a matter of WHERE and HOW to
route
| the packets when there are so many nodes in between. Broadcast the new
IP
| and you're once again identified. Fail to broadcast it, and the packet
has
| no where to go and no way to get there, there is no destination. The
| packet
| dies within very short steps/hops, if it goes anywhere.
| For example: VPN creates a permanent LINK between computers and attempts
| to
| block outside access.
| Can you travel the Internet from within a VPN?
| WELLLLL, yeeeaaaaah, but one end must be a hosting server for the
Internet
| access. It then becomes an attackable point into the VPN.
|
| As I have indicated before, EVERYTHING has a sending and receiving
| address,
| whether you are behind an anonymous server/service or not, the packet
| travels the web/network and MUST have a destination for the connection
to
| exist... if the destination is discovered or monitored, or some software
| uses an already authorized connection or IP then where's the privacy and
| security.... just in your mind because it really doesn't exist.
| Of course this is just my interpretation of what goes on out here...
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| MEB
| http://peoplescounsel.org
| a Peoples' counsel
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| Windows diagnostics/Security/Networking:
| http://peoplescounsel.org/ref/windows-main.htm
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| | "MEB" meb@not wrote in message
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| |
| | "Santander" wrote in message
| | ...
| | | I want know exactly, whether such behaviour(can no change ip) is
| | | normal(default) for my ISP provider network configuration and for
| every
| | | subscriber, or my ISP provider has intentionally set my IP static
in
| | | conjunction with the cable modem MAC. These are two *big
| differences*.
| | |
| | | Santander
| | | --------
| | |
| |
| | Unless you provide WHO your provider is and WHERE, no one can
actually
| | provide that answer.
| |
| | HOWEVER, in one form or another, it is NORMAL for ADSL/DSL and cable
| | providers to assign static or extremely limited IP ranges for
| individual
| | customers. They need to know exactly WHO is online so they can find
| and
| | block hackers and parties stealing usage. IF they didn't, or ran
| | auto-reconfigs everytime some customer wished to change their IP,
then
| it
| | would be impossible to maintain any type of security within their
| service.
| | Hence, the device receives a *lease* for an IP which continues until
| | returned to the pool OR is refreshed by the provider.
| |
| | When most usage was over phonelines, the providers generally had
their
| own
| | proprietary software to handle network negotiation, which
transmitted
| | identifying aspects *each time* a user connected. There,
re-assignment
| of
| | IPs wasn't a big deal, and was necessary as the *pool* of addresses
| had
| to
| | be constantly recycled. Even when there was no proprietary software,
| the
| | adapters MAC and other identifiers were used on a per user basis.
| | NOW, with broad band, you [actually the modem/modem-router] become a
| | permanent part of *THEIR network* [always available access], and
just
| like
| | a
| | network you might have at home or in the office, they need to know
| EXACTLY
| | *what* comprises the network. If you have wireless access in your
| network
| | you should understand how important it is to *qualify and limit*
that
| | wireless access in *your network*.
| | Why would you expect anything different from a provider doing so for
| | hundreds of thousands of users, whether hard wired or wireless.
| |
| | Think of it like this:
| | You don't have a separate network line/cable run from the provider's
| | server
| | *directly* to you... instead, that line is generally shared with
| hundreds
| | of
| | thousands of other users, running through multiple other networks
and
| | servers to provide Internet access [do a ping and/or trace to see
what
| I'm
| | talking about here].
| | How do you expect them to provide you with service AND *provide
| security
| | for you and ALL the other users*, *if they can't identify that you
are
| who
| | you purport to be*{extreme emphasis here}?
| | More importantly, WHY would you expect them to allow you the ability
| to
| do
| | what you want in THEIR network?
| |
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| | MEB c-2008
| | http://peoplescounsel.org
| | a Peoples' counsel
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| | Windows diagnostics/Security/Networking:
| | http://peoplescounsel.org/ref/windows-main.htm
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| | | "MEB" meb@not wrote in message
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| | | "SANTANDER" wrote in message
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| | | | I mean, however, external IP address (that can be checked
online
| at
| | IP
| | | | lookup web pages).
| | | | Cable modem diagnostic page isn't too helpful, it show mac
| address,
| | | cable
| | | | signal details, modem recent events Logs.
| | | | When shut off/ swith on modem in the event log shown 'DHCP
| WARNING -
| | | | Non-critical field invalid in response'
| | |
| | | Ah yeah, without the Cable modem on you have no DHCP..
| | |
| | | | Besides other things, diagnostic page show also BPI: Disabled
| | | | As far i read, BPI stands for Baseline Privacy Interface.
| "Baseline
| | | Privacy
| | | | Plus (BPI+) provides cable modem users with data privacy
across
| the
| | | cable
| | | | network. It does this by encrypting traffic flows between CM
and
| | CMTS."
| | | | So they dont use BPI, its bad.
| | | |
| http://www.cablemodem.com/downloads/...I12-050812.pdf
| | | |
| | | | It seems, in win98 is not possible change the MAC of Network
| Card
| | | similar
| | | as
| | | | described in http://www.dslreports.com/faq/10269
| | | |
| | | | Santander
| | | |
| | |
| | | Spoof MAC on Windows 98/ME
| | | http://www.klcconsulting.net/Change_MAC_w98.htm
| | |
| | | Hmm, how about a tool - A-MAC
| | |
| |
|
http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q...=Google+Search
| | |
| | | Realize this though,, your ISP is not going to like you changing
| your
| | MAC
| | | all the time [they have to assign a new IP AND register it to
your
| | | billing/customer ID]... they may also refuse to continue to
| provide
| | you
| | | service.
| | |
| | | You would also need to reboot the computer AND re-start the
cable
| | modem
| | | for
| | | full effect.
| | | Were this XP or above you could use devcon:
| | | http://support.microsoft.com/default...;EN-US;Q311272
| | |
| | | What are you trying to do? Anonymous surf or what.......
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| | | MEB
| | | http://peoplescounsel.org
| | | a Peoples' counsel
| | |
| | | Windows diagnostics/Security/Networking:
| | | http://peoplescounsel.org/ref/windows-main.htm
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| | | | "MEB" meb@not wrote in message
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| | | | "SANTANDER" wrote in message
| | | | ...
| | | | | a broadband connection via DOCSIS cable modem. No static
IP
| | address
| | | | option.
| | | | | I wanted change my IP so I switched modem on and off, then
| run
| | | winipcfg,
| | | | do
| | | | | release/renew Ethernet adapter, but when checked IP it has
| not
| | | changed.
| | | | I
| | | | | tried this of few days, but ip remains not changed. Where
is
| the
| | | | problem?
| | | | Is
| | | | | it possible ISP has fixed the address to prevent changes?
| | | | |
| | | |
| | | | It is very possible your ISP/provider uses static IP in
| | conjunction
| | | with
| | | | the adapter's hard set MAC and/or *DID/CMID*{Device ID/Cable
| Modem
| | | ID}.
| | | | You
| | | | should have received some information related to that
| activity,
| | either
| | | at
| | | | signup, or via the Hosts web page. Check on your providers
| master
| | web
| | | | pages
| | | | for that information, or use the help/support to find out
for
| | sure.
| | | |
| | | | You say you shut off the modem, however, many have built in
| | memory
| | | which
| | | | will not clear for several hours or days [for issues related
| to
| | line
| | | | problems and power outages] and retain the *lease* until
| expired
| | | and/or
| | | | reset by the provider's server.
| | | |
| | | | IF you supply your provider perhaps someone can advise
| whether
| it
| | has
| | | | static addressing and/or how to change or release to obtain
| new.
| | | | Remember, what you see *locally* with ipconfig or winipcfg
is
| | what
| | | the
| | | | assigned address is *from the modem/router*... your actual
| | external
| | | | address
| | | | may be from a proxy on the provider's network.
| | | |
| | | | Reference:
| | | | How to Check your Cable Modem ID -- MAC Address. (#10512)
| | | | http://www.dslreports.com/faq/10512
| | | |
| | | | How can I change my IP address? (#10269)
| | | | http://www.dslreports.com/faq/10269
| | | |
| | | | NAT, PAT, Internet and Server Access: Introduction and Best
| | Practise
| | | | (#13449)
| | | | http://www.dslreports.com/faq/13449
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| | | | MEB
| | | | http://peoplescounsel.org
| | | | a Peoples' counsel
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| | | | Windows diagnostics/Security/Networking:
| | | | http://peoplescounsel.org/ref/windows-main.htm
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