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Old September 24th 05, 11:21 PM
Franc Zabkar
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Default Bootup delay while looking for DHCP server

If I have my ADSL modem switched off while Win98se is booting, Windows
takes about 3 minutes before it gives up looking for a DHCP server and
then assigns an IP address such as 169-254-xxx-xxx. Is there some way
to specify a shorter timeout period?

-- Franc Zabkar

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Old September 24th 05, 11:32 PM
David H. Lipman
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From: "Franc Zabkar"

| If I have my ADSL modem switched off while Win98se is booting, Windows
| takes about 3 minutes before it gives up looking for a DHCP server and
| then assigns an IP address such as 169-254-xxx-xxx. Is there some way
| to specify a shorter timeout period?
|
| -- Franc Zabkar
|
| Please remove one 'i' from my address when replying by email.

Get a cable/DSL Router such as the Linksys BEFSR41.
- If your ISP uses PPPoE then the Router, not the PC, will make the PPPoE connection.
- Through the DHCP server of the Router, you can always have an IP address, even if the
modem is turned off.
- The Router will act as a simplistic FireWall and protect your PC from Internet worms and
hackers as well as you can increase your security by specifically blocking both TCP and UDP
ports 135 ~ 139 and 445
- The Router will allow you to share that one DSL WAN IP with up to 253 LAN nodes.

The following text between the dashes "--------" can be used to create a Registry file
(NoIPAuoConfig.REG) that can be used to disable IP Auto Configuration in Win9x/ME.

--------
REGEDIT4

[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\System\CurrentControlSet\Servic es\VxD\DHCP]
"IPAutoconfigurationEnabled"=dword:00000000

--------


--
Dave
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http://www.ik-cs.com/got-a-virus.htm


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Old September 25th 05, 02:31 AM
glee
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If the NIC's TCP/IP properties are configured to 'obtain an IP address
automatically', that is the behaviour you will see. If the computer is not
networked, you can assign a static IP address of 192.168.0.1 or 192.168.0.2 or
192.168.1.1, and subnet mask 255.255.255.0

This will avoid the delay.
--
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"Franc Zabkar" wrote in message
...
If I have my ADSL modem switched off while Win98se is booting, Windows
takes about 3 minutes before it gives up looking for a DHCP server and
then assigns an IP address such as 169-254-xxx-xxx. Is there some way
to specify a shorter timeout period?

-- Franc Zabkar

Please remove one 'i' from my address when replying by email.


  #4  
Old September 25th 05, 07:55 AM
Franc Zabkar
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On Sat, 24 Sep 2005 21:31:13 -0400, "glee"
put finger to keyboard and composed:

If the NIC's TCP/IP properties are configured to 'obtain an IP address
automatically', that is the behaviour you will see. If the computer is not
networked, you can assign a static IP address of 192.168.0.1 or 192.168.0.2 or
192.168.1.1, and subnet mask 255.255.255.0

This will avoid the delay.


If I do that, then I won't have access to my modem. I need a
workaround for those times when I'm working offline. In the past,
before my modem was delivered, I used a static IP address of
169.254.xxx.xxx and subnet mask of 255.255.255.0.

FWIW, my ISP assigns me a dynamic IP address.

Glen Ventura, MS MVP Shell/User, A+
http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm


"Franc Zabkar" wrote in message
.. .
If I have my ADSL modem switched off while Win98se is booting, Windows
takes about 3 minutes before it gives up looking for a DHCP server and
then assigns an IP address such as 169-254-xxx-xxx. Is there some way
to specify a shorter timeout period?

-- Franc Zabkar

Please remove one 'i' from my address when replying by email.


-- Franc Zabkar

Please remove one 'i' from my address when replying by email.
  #5  
Old September 25th 05, 07:55 AM
Franc Zabkar
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On Sat, 24 Sep 2005 18:32:35 -0400, "David H. Lipman"
put finger to keyboard and composed:

From: "Franc Zabkar"

| If I have my ADSL modem switched off while Win98se is booting, Windows
| takes about 3 minutes before it gives up looking for a DHCP server and
| then assigns an IP address such as 169-254-xxx-xxx. Is there some way
| to specify a shorter timeout period?
|
| -- Franc Zabkar
|
| Please remove one 'i' from my address when replying by email.

Get a cable/DSL Router such as the Linksys BEFSR41.
- If your ISP uses PPPoE then the Router, not the PC, will make the PPPoE connection.


I have a D-Link DSL-302G modem. The PPPoE and PPPoA clients are in the
modem.

- Through the DHCP server of the Router, you can always have an IP address, even if the
modem is turned off.


I'd rather not buy another piece of hardware. I view this problem as
more of an annoyance than anything else. If I can't resolve it I'll
just learn to live with it.

- The Router will act as a simplistic FireWall and protect your PC from Internet worms and
hackers as well as you can increase your security by specifically blocking both TCP and UDP
ports 135 ~ 139 and 445
- The Router will allow you to share that one DSL WAN IP with up to 253 LAN nodes.

The following text between the dashes "--------" can be used to create a Registry file
(NoIPAuoConfig.REG) that can be used to disable IP Auto Configuration in Win9x/ME.

--------
REGEDIT4

[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\System\CurrentControlSet\Servic es\VxD\DHCP]
"IPAutoconfigurationEnabled"=dword:00000000

--------


I presume this only applies if I install a router. Anyway, I tried it
but there was no reduction in the delay. It appears that in both cases
the system times out looking for a DHCP server, and then either takes
a dummy IP address from Microsoft's reserved block at 169.254.x.x, or
takes no address at all.

-- Franc Zabkar

Please remove one 'i' from my address when replying by email.
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Old September 25th 05, 08:16 AM
Hugh Candlin
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"Franc Zabkar" wrote in message
...
On Sat, 24 Sep 2005 21:31:13 -0400, "glee"
put finger to keyboard and composed:

If the NIC's TCP/IP properties are configured to 'obtain an IP address
automatically', that is the behaviour you will see. If the computer is

not
networked, you can assign a static IP address of 192.168.0.1 or

192.168.0.2 or
192.168.1.1, and subnet mask 255.255.255.0

This will avoid the delay.


If I do that, then I won't have access to my modem.


That isn't true. I have posted a solution to this issue
many times in this NG, and use it myself, and I use my modem
on a daily basis with no problem.

http://groups.google.com/groups?q=hu...+ethernet+mask

I need a
workaround for those times when I'm working offline. In the past,
before my modem was delivered, I used a static IP address of
169.254.xxx.xxx and subnet mask of 255.255.255.0.


The point that you are missing is that the static IP address
is tied to the TCP entry of the ethernet card.
The modem knows nothing about it, and is unaffected.

FWIW, my ISP assigns me a dynamic IP address.

Glen Ventura, MS MVP Shell/User, A+
http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm


"Franc Zabkar" wrote in message
.. .
If I have my ADSL modem switched off while Win98se is booting, Windows
takes about 3 minutes before it gives up looking for a DHCP server and
then assigns an IP address such as 169-254-xxx-xxx. Is there some way
to specify a shorter timeout period?

-- Franc Zabkar

Please remove one 'i' from my address when replying by email.


-- Franc Zabkar

Please remove one 'i' from my address when replying by email.



  #7  
Old September 25th 05, 12:27 PM
David H. Lipman
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From: "Franc Zabkar"

| On Sat, 24 Sep 2005 18:32:35 -0400, "David H. Lipman"
| put finger to keyboard and composed:
|
From: "Franc Zabkar"

| If I have my ADSL modem switched off while Win98se is booting, Windows
| takes about 3 minutes before it gives up looking for a DHCP server and
| then assigns an IP address such as 169-254-xxx-xxx. Is there some way
| to specify a shorter timeout period?
|
| -- Franc Zabkar
|
| Please remove one 'i' from my address when replying by email.

Get a cable/DSL Router such as the Linksys BEFSR41.
- If your ISP uses PPPoE then the Router, not the PC, will make the PPPoE connection.

|
| I have a D-Link DSL-302G modem. The PPPoE and PPPoA clients are in the
| modem.
|
- Through the DHCP server of the Router, you can always have an IP address, even if the
modem is turned off.

|
| I'd rather not buy another piece of hardware. I view this problem as
| more of an annoyance than anything else. If I can't resolve it I'll
| just learn to live with it.
|
- The Router will act as a simplistic FireWall and protect your PC from Internet worms
and hackers as well as you can increase your security by specifically blocking both TCP
and UDP ports 135 ~ 139 and 445 - The Router will allow you to share that one DSL WAN IP
with up to 253 LAN nodes.

The following text between the dashes "--------" can be used to create a Registry file
(NoIPAuoConfig.REG) that can be used to disable IP Auto Configuration in Win9x/ME.

--------
REGEDIT4

[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\System\CurrentControlSet\Servic es\VxD\DHCP]
"IPAutoconfigurationEnabled"=dword:00000000

--------

|
| I presume this only applies if I install a router. Anyway, I tried it
| but there was no reduction in the delay. It appears that in both cases
| the system times out looking for a DHCP server, and then either takes
| a dummy IP address from Microsoft's reserved block at 169.254.x.x, or
| takes no address at all.
|
| -- Franc Zabkar
|
| Please remove one 'i' from my address when replying by email.

It actually looks like the DSL-302G is a combo Modem+Router.

The Registry info I provided has nothing to do with a Router installation. It merely
disables IP Auto Configuration in the Win9x/ME OS and thus if it can't get an IP from the
modem+Router then it will not assign the 169.254.x.y address.


--
Dave
http://www.claymania.com/removal-trojan-adware.html
http://www.ik-cs.com/got-a-virus.htm


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Old September 25th 05, 01:06 PM
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Turn Modem ON when booting

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"Franc Zabkar" wrote in message
...
If I have my ADSL modem switched off while Win98se is booting, Windows
takes about 3 minutes before it gives up looking for a DHCP server and
then assigns an IP address such as 169-254-xxx-xxx. Is there some way
to specify a shorter timeout period?

-- Franc Zabkar

Please remove one 'i' from my address when replying by email.



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Old September 25th 05, 03:27 PM
glee
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See Hugh's reply.....no point my duplicating it.
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"Franc Zabkar" wrote in message
...
On Sat, 24 Sep 2005 21:31:13 -0400, "glee"
put finger to keyboard and composed:

If the NIC's TCP/IP properties are configured to 'obtain an IP address
automatically', that is the behaviour you will see. If the computer is not
networked, you can assign a static IP address of 192.168.0.1 or 192.168.0.2 or
192.168.1.1, and subnet mask 255.255.255.0

This will avoid the delay.


If I do that, then I won't have access to my modem. I need a
workaround for those times when I'm working offline. In the past,
before my modem was delivered, I used a static IP address of
169.254.xxx.xxx and subnet mask of 255.255.255.0.

FWIW, my ISP assigns me a dynamic IP address.

Glen Ventura, MS MVP Shell/User, A+
http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm


"Franc Zabkar" wrote in message
.. .
If I have my ADSL modem switched off while Win98se is booting, Windows
takes about 3 minutes before it gives up looking for a DHCP server and
then assigns an IP address such as 169-254-xxx-xxx. Is there some way
to specify a shorter timeout period?

-- Franc Zabkar

Please remove one 'i' from my address when replying by email.


-- Franc Zabkar

Please remove one 'i' from my address when replying by email.


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Old September 25th 05, 10:02 PM
Franc Zabkar
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On Sun, 25 Sep 2005 00:16:01 -0700, "Hugh Candlin" put
finger to keyboard and composed:


"Franc Zabkar" wrote in message
.. .
On Sat, 24 Sep 2005 21:31:13 -0400, "glee"
put finger to keyboard and composed:

If the NIC's TCP/IP properties are configured to 'obtain an IP address
automatically', that is the behaviour you will see. If the computer is

not
networked, you can assign a static IP address of 192.168.0.1 or

192.168.0.2 or
192.168.1.1, and subnet mask 255.255.255.0

This will avoid the delay.


If I do that, then I won't have access to my modem.


That isn't true. I have posted a solution to this issue
many times in this NG, and use it myself, and I use my modem
on a daily basis with no problem.

http://groups.google.com/groups?q=hu...+ethernet+mask


I did as instructed but was unable to access the modem. Attempting to
Release and Renew the address in Winipcfg had no effect. The modem's
browser interface at 10.1.1.1 became inaccessible.

I don't know if this is a pertinent question, but is your PPPoE client
in software or firmware? Mine is in the modem.

I need a
workaround for those times when I'm working offline. In the past,
before my modem was delivered, I used a static IP address of
169.254.xxx.xxx and subnet mask of 255.255.255.0.


The point that you are missing is that the static IP address
is tied to the TCP entry of the ethernet card.
The modem knows nothing about it, and is unaffected.


I am aware of that. I was using your technique, albeit with a
different static IP address, for several weeks before my ADSL kit
arrived.

-- Franc Zabkar

Please remove one 'i' from my address when replying by email.
 




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