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Old April 27th 05, 10:04 PM
Anon
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Default history question

See display question at end!!

When I look at history with ie5.x the indexed information is rendered as
folders (today, yesterday, etc.) and the folders expand to display the urls.

When I look at history in a program which shows how the information is
ACTUALLY stored on the hard disk, the information is in files called
MSHist0120011030xxxxx (the numbers look like the beginning and ending dates
for the file) and is not expandable as above.

When I look at history on a shared computer (using share files and printers
option) the history looks like those described in the second paragraph
above.

Is there any way to display the shared history as described in the first
paragraph (with dates and klickabel urls?)


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Old April 27th 05, 10:13 PM
Rick Chauvin
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Anon wrote:
See display question at end!!

When I look at history with ie5.x the indexed information is rendered as
folders (today, yesterday, etc.) and the folders expand to display the
urls.

When I look at history in a program which shows how the information is
ACTUALLY stored on the hard disk, the information is in files called
MSHist0120011030xxxxx (the numbers look like the beginning and ending dates
for the file) and is not expandable as above.

When I look at history on a shared computer (using share files and printers
option) the history looks like those described in the second paragraph
above.

Is there any way to display the shared history as described in the first
paragraph (with dates and klickabel urls?)


No, not that I'm aware of anyway, not unless you have rights to access and
run programs on that shared computer so that you can run that same program
(like Spider or whatever) if you have it installed on it, or run whatever
other operations in order to access those particular ...index.dat folders, or
the C:\WINDOWS\History\History.IE5\MSHistxxxxxxxxxxx\i ndex.dat file you are
speaking of. ..heh, tidbit is interesting that IE6 still calls that folder
IE5 even today.

Rick





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Old April 27th 05, 11:45 PM
Brian A.
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Is c:\windows\history a place you looked?

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"Rick Chauvin" wrote in message
...
Anon wrote:
See display question at end!!

When I look at history with ie5.x the indexed information is rendered as
folders (today, yesterday, etc.) and the folders expand to display the
urls.

When I look at history in a program which shows how the information is
ACTUALLY stored on the hard disk, the information is in files called
MSHist0120011030xxxxx (the numbers look like the beginning and ending dates
for the file) and is not expandable as above.

When I look at history on a shared computer (using share files and printers
option) the history looks like those described in the second paragraph
above.

Is there any way to display the shared history as described in the first
paragraph (with dates and klickabel urls?)


No, not that I'm aware of anyway, not unless you have rights to access and
run programs on that shared computer so that you can run that same program
(like Spider or whatever) if you have it installed on it, or run whatever
other operations in order to access those particular ...index.dat folders, or
the C:\WINDOWS\History\History.IE5\MSHistxxxxxxxxxxx\i ndex.dat file you are
speaking of. ..heh, tidbit is interesting that IE6 still calls that folder
IE5 even today.

Rick






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Old April 27th 05, 11:46 PM
Brian A.
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Is c:\windows\history a place you looked?


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Brian A. Sesko
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Conflicts start where information lacks.
http://www.dts-l.org/goodpost.htm




"Anon" wrote in message
...
See display question at end!!

When I look at history with ie5.x the indexed information is rendered as
folders (today, yesterday, etc.) and the folders expand to display the urls.

When I look at history in a program which shows how the information is
ACTUALLY stored on the hard disk, the information is in files called
MSHist0120011030xxxxx (the numbers look like the beginning and ending dates
for the file) and is not expandable as above.

When I look at history on a shared computer (using share files and printers
option) the history looks like those described in the second paragraph
above.

Is there any way to display the shared history as described in the first
paragraph (with dates and klickabel urls?)



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Old April 28th 05, 04:17 AM
Anon
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"Brian A." gonefish'n@afarawaylake wrote in message
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Is c:\windows\history a place you looked?


***
Yes and the 'home' computer opened the folder as today, etc.

The shared computer opened the folder as
History.IE5\MSHistxxxxxxxxxxx\index.dat not as above.
*****


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Brian A. Sesko
{ MS MVP_Shell/User }
Conflicts start where information lacks.
http://www.dts-l.org/goodpost.htm




"Rick Chauvin" wrote in message
...
Anon wrote:
See display question at end!!

When I look at history with ie5.x the indexed information is rendered

as
folders (today, yesterday, etc.) and the folders expand to display the
urls.

When I look at history in a program which shows how the information is
ACTUALLY stored on the hard disk, the information is in files called
MSHist0120011030xxxxx (the numbers look like the beginning and ending

dates
for the file) and is not expandable as above.

When I look at history on a shared computer (using share files and

printers
option) the history looks like those described in the second paragraph
above.

Is there any way to display the shared history as described in the

first
paragraph (with dates and klickabel urls?)


No, not that I'm aware of anyway, not unless you have rights to access

and
run programs on that shared computer so that you can run that same

program
(like Spider or whatever) if you have it installed on it, or run

whatever
other operations in order to access those particular ...index.dat

folders, or
the C:\WINDOWS\History\History.IE5\MSHistxxxxxxxxxxx\i ndex.dat file you

are
speaking of. ..heh, tidbit is interesting that IE6 still calls that

folder
IE5 even today.

Rick








  #6  
Old April 28th 05, 04:25 AM
Anon
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"Rick Chauvin" wrote in message
...
Anon wrote:
See display question at end!!

When I look at history with ie5.x the indexed information is rendered as
folders (today, yesterday, etc.) and the folders expand to display the
urls.

When I look at history in a program which shows how the information is
ACTUALLY stored on the hard disk, the information is in files called
MSHist0120011030xxxxx (the numbers look like the beginning and ending

dates
for the file) and is not expandable as above.

When I look at history on a shared computer (using share files and

printers
option) the history looks like those described in the second paragraph
above.

Is there any way to display the shared history as described in the first
paragraph (with dates and klickabel urls?)


No, not that I'm aware of anyway, not unless you have rights to access and
run programs on that shared computer so that you can run that same program


****
I actually executed a couple of the programs on the shared computer - so
that at least works.
***

(like Spider or whatever) if you have it installed on it, or run whatever
other operations in order to access those particular ...index.dat folders,

or
the C:\WINDOWS\History\History.IE5\MSHistxxxxxxxxxxx\i ndex.dat file you

are
speaking of. ..heh, tidbit is interesting that IE6 still calls that

folder
IE5 even today.


***
I also thought that the IE5 DID look peculiar.

These ARE the folders I am talking about.

On the 'home' computer - C:\WINDOWS\History\ displays as today, etc folders.

On the shared computer - C:\WINDOWS\History\ displays as
History.IE5\MSHistxxxxxxxxxxx\index.dat and each then opens as an ordinary
explorer folder not as today, etc.

Now is there some way (registry???) to force the 'home' computer to render
the shared history the way the home computer displays its own history?

BTW the shared history is in exactly the same folder as the home computer.
***


Rick







  #7  
Old April 28th 05, 03:00 PM
Rick Chauvin
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Brian A. wrote:
Is c:\windows\history a place you looked?


Yes but it's further than that, where that particular folder you can find it
a few ways, one manual way is if you navigate to it in dos or from the
windows msdos prompt. ...errr, now that I think of it I have my
autoexec bat always set with:
SET PROMPT=$p$g
SET DIRCMD=/A
...in order for me to see results with all hidden/system files being shown if
you do a DIR in dos is what SET DIRCMD=/A does ...and SET PROMPT=$p-$g
will show drive and current dir when in dos.

Anyway, easier for most if they use any one of a number of programs to be
able to see that particular History\History folder index.dat file. Even the
resident winfile.exe in 'search' will show that folder ..but using specific
programs like Spider, or others, is where you will see that and actually
everything of file and url contents all at once.

C:\WINDOWS\Cookies\index.dat
C:\WINDOWS\History\History.IE5\index.dat
C:\WINDOWS\History\History.IE5\MSHistxxxxxxxxxxxx\ index.dat
C:\WINDOWS\Local Settings\Temporary Internet Files\Content.IE5\index.dat
C:\WINDOWS\UserData\index.dat


Rick


--

Brian A. Sesko
{ MS MVP_Shell/User }
Conflicts start where information lacks.
http://www.dts-l.org/goodpost.htm




"Rick Chauvin" wrote in message
...
Anon wrote:
See display question at end!!

When I look at history with ie5.x the indexed information is rendered as
folders (today, yesterday, etc.) and the folders expand to display the
urls.

When I look at history in a program which shows how the information is
ACTUALLY stored on the hard disk, the information is in files called
MSHist0120011030xxxxx (the numbers look like the beginning and ending
dates for the file) and is not expandable as above.

When I look at history on a shared computer (using share files and
printers option) the history looks like those described in the second
paragraph above.

Is there any way to display the shared history as described in the first
paragraph (with dates and klickabel urls?)


No, not that I'm aware of anyway, not unless you have rights to access and
run programs on that shared computer so that you can run that same program
(like Spider or whatever) if you have it installed on it, or run whatever
other operations in order to access those particular ...index.dat
folders, or the
C:\WINDOWS\History\History.IE5\MSHistxxxxxxxxxxx\i ndex.dat file you are
speaking of. ..heh, tidbit is interesting that IE6 still calls that
folder IE5 even today.

Rick











  #8  
Old April 28th 05, 03:05 PM
Rick Chauvin
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Anon wrote:
"Rick Chauvin" wrote in message
...
Anon wrote:


[....]

Is there any way to display the shared history as described in the first
paragraph (with dates and klickabel urls?)


No, not that I'm aware of anyway, not unless you have rights to access and
run programs on that shared computer so that you can run that same program


****
I actually executed a couple of the programs on the shared computer - so
that at least works.
***

(like Spider or whatever) if you have it installed on it, or run whatever
other operations in order to access those particular ...index.dat
folders, or the
C:\WINDOWS\History\History.IE5\MSHistxxxxxxxxxxx\i ndex.dat file you are
speaking of. ..heh, tidbit is interesting that IE6 still calls that
folder IE5 even today.


***
I also thought that the IE5 DID look peculiar.



Well it's only cosmetic really, and no biggy and it all still works the same.
I imagine it's just that the IE6 install routine was never set to rename it
to 6 is all.

These ARE the folders I am talking about.

On the 'home' computer - C:\WINDOWS\History\ displays as today, etc
folders.


right

On the shared computer - C:\WINDOWS\History\ displays as
History.IE5\MSHistxxxxxxxxxxx\index.dat and each then opens as an ordinary
explorer folder not as today, etc.


...I'm not quite sure what you're trying to say with the way you have worded
that sentence?
You cannot see or open in a ordinary windows explorer folder, that particular
C:\WINDOWS\History\History.IE5\MSHistxxxxxxxxxxxxx xxxxxx\ folder, unless
you have an extra specific program to do so - what program are you using.


Now is there some way (registry???) to force the 'home' computer to render
the shared history the way the home computer displays its own history?



As I said before I don't think so in this case, unless of course you use one
of those programs that lets you have control of their computer from your
computer and in that way you can operate the computer as if you were really
there.

If I knew what you were trying to accomplish by seeing/clicking what url's
are in their history cache then maybe I could give you more advice about it.


BTW the shared history is in exactly the same folder as the home computer.


Yes it's the same in all 9x's systems with those TWO folders always the

C:\WINDOWS\History\History.IE5\
C:\WINDOWS\History\History.IE5\MSHistxxxxxxxxxxxxx xxxxxx\

Rick











  #9  
Old April 28th 05, 04:26 PM
Rick Chauvin
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Anon wrote:

[....]

No problem with FINDING history, just problem with displaying it.


Anon I know that, but you are replying to the wrong post, and that post was
not for you but it was for Brian who aksed the question how to find it.

I guessed you missed the one I replied to you. That's not my fault

Rick



  #10  
Old April 28th 05, 04:27 PM
Anon
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"Rick Chauvin" wrote in message
...
Brian A. wrote:
Is c:\windows\history a place you looked?


Yes but it's further than that, where that particular folder you can find

it
a few ways, one manual way is if you navigate to it in dos or from the
windows msdos prompt. ...errr, now that I think of it I have my
autoexec bat always set with:
SET PROMPT=$p$g
SET DIRCMD=/A
..in order for me to see results with all hidden/system files being shown

if
you do a DIR in dos is what SET DIRCMD=/A does ...and SET PROMPT=$p-$g
will show drive and current dir when in dos.

Anyway, easier for most if they use any one of a number of programs to be
able to see that particular History\History folder index.dat file. Even

the
resident winfile.exe in 'search' will show that folder ..but using

specific
programs like Spider, or others, is where you will see that and actually
everything of file and url contents all at once.

C:\WINDOWS\Cookies\index.dat
C:\WINDOWS\History\History.IE5\index.dat
C:\WINDOWS\History\History.IE5\MSHistxxxxxxxxxxxx\ index.dat
C:\WINDOWS\Local Settings\Temporary Internet Files\Content.IE5\index.dat
C:\WINDOWS\UserData\index.dat



****
No problem with FINDING history, just problem with displaying it.
***
Rick


--

Brian A. Sesko
{ MS MVP_Shell/User }
Conflicts start where information lacks.
http://www.dts-l.org/goodpost.htm




"Rick Chauvin" wrote in message
...
Anon wrote:
See display question at end!!

When I look at history with ie5.x the indexed information is rendered

as
folders (today, yesterday, etc.) and the folders expand to display the
urls.

When I look at history in a program which shows how the information is
ACTUALLY stored on the hard disk, the information is in files called
MSHist0120011030xxxxx (the numbers look like the beginning and ending
dates for the file) and is not expandable as above.

When I look at history on a shared computer (using share files and
printers option) the history looks like those described in the second
paragraph above.

Is there any way to display the shared history as described in the

first
paragraph (with dates and klickabel urls?)

No, not that I'm aware of anyway, not unless you have rights to access

and
run programs on that shared computer so that you can run that same

program
(like Spider or whatever) if you have it installed on it, or run

whatever
other operations in order to access those particular ...index.dat
folders, or the
C:\WINDOWS\History\History.IE5\MSHistxxxxxxxxxxx\i ndex.dat file you are
speaking of. ..heh, tidbit is interesting that IE6 still calls that
folder IE5 even today.

Rick













 




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