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"jane" wrote in message ... Hi all,,,, I found out I can have XP cheap through college, it is a necessary evil as college is teaching everything using xp so I need to familiarise myself with it. I need to know what sort of problems I might encounter if I choose to put it on my Ddrive. As most here know, I have C, D ,& E drives; I will format my D drive, but need to know exactly the procedure I should follow directly after. I also dont wish to lose anything that is already on my other two drives. Is it true that when having two OS's, XP should go on last? (if this is the case then its fine because I already have 98). http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/u...multiboot.mspx http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/u...e/meandxp.mspx |
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Hi all,,,,
I found out I can have XP cheap through college, it is a necessary evil as college is teaching everything using xp so I need to familiarise myself with it. I need to know what sort of problems I might encounter if I choose to put it on my Ddrive. As most here know, I have C, D ,& E drives; I will format my D drive, but need to know exactly the procedure I should follow directly after. I also dont wish to lose anything that is already on my other two drives. Is it true that when having two OS's, XP should go on last? (if this is the case then its fine because I already have 98). Here are some points I would like clarified too::; 1)What do I need to know about Dual-Booting. 2)Will I need to change any bios settings. 3)What sort of "preparation" should I do just prior to instal. 4)Can I feel safe knowing I will not get any Conflicts. 5)What minimum running process's should I leave during instal. 6)How will my AV be affected. 7)Do the two OS's know that each other are there, or will they both just act as if they themselves are Primary. There are probably many more questions I should ask, but at this stage I am not even sure what those questions should be. I hope some of you guys have already done this (of which I believe many have) so that with your help I can do this trouble-free. Oh, my Ddrive is 10gigabytes. Some comp details a: AMD processor 1.33gig 256SDRAM, 40gig HD (partitioned to C D & E.) Thanks guys, regards Jane |
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Hi hugh,
I appreciate the links, but I could have found those myself. I was more interested in the things that Dont get told at those sites. When I did my first Fdisk, it was a disaster following a sites info. I was hoping that someone here who has done it could point out any problems or situations that arose while they themselves did it;;; sort of like the things they "would or wouldnt have done had they known", if that makes sense. Thanks for reply, regards Jane http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/u...multiboot.mspx http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/u...e/meandxp.mspx |
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1. Nothing in particular. You will get a menu to choose the OS to boot.
2. Probably not. If you do, that's going to be a problem, as the W98 installation probably relies on the existing settings. But no changes will be required unless you specifically need the machine to be different. For instance, if you aren't using USB in W98 but you want it available for XP, you may have to enable it in BIOS. 3. Make sure the hardware is capable of running XP, and that you have XP drivers for all your devices. 256Mb is just sufficient to run XP, but it won't be speedy. 4. If you know this, you can feel safe (how do you know this?) 5. I don't understand the question. The processes to run during the install will be determined by the installation software. You won't get a choice. 6. It won't be affected at all when running W98. When running XP it won't be affected because there won't be any until you install it. 7. Each OS will know the other is there, because they will each have access to the same hard drives (assuming you keep drive D as FAT32). There is no such thing as a 'primary' OS - there is only the OS that is currently running. -- Jeff Richards MS MVP (Windows - Shell/User) "jane" wrote in message ... Hi all,,,, I found out I can have XP cheap through college, it is a necessary evil as college is teaching everything using xp so I need to familiarise myself with it. I need to know what sort of problems I might encounter if I choose to put it on my Ddrive. As most here know, I have C, D ,& E drives; I will format my D drive, but need to know exactly the procedure I should follow directly after. I also dont wish to lose anything that is already on my other two drives. Is it true that when having two OS's, XP should go on last? (if this is the case then its fine because I already have 98). Here are some points I would like clarified too::; 1)What do I need to know about Dual-Booting. 2)Will I need to change any bios settings. 3)What sort of "preparation" should I do just prior to instal. 4)Can I feel safe knowing I will not get any Conflicts. 5)What minimum running process's should I leave during instal. 6)How will my AV be affected. 7)Do the two OS's know that each other are there, or will they both just act as if they themselves are Primary. There are probably many more questions I should ask, but at this stage I am not even sure what those questions should be. I hope some of you guys have already done this (of which I believe many have) so that with your help I can do this trouble-free. Oh, my Ddrive is 10gigabytes. Some comp details a: AMD processor 1.33gig 256SDRAM, 40gig HD (partitioned to C D & E.) |
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3. Make sure the hardware is capable of running XP, and that you have XP
drivers for all your devices. 256Mb is just sufficient to run XP, but it won't be speedy. Not looking for Speedy, just want to get to know the Interface. What sort of Hardware are you refering to Jeff? Shouldnt all and any Drivers be on the XP cd? Does the average mum n' dad have to go searching for Drivers when they probably dont even know what one is? 7. Each OS will know the other is there, because they will each have access to the same hard drives (assuming you keep drive D as FAT32). There is no such thing as a 'primary' OS - there is only the OS that is currently running. Isnt it better to have XP with NTFS? Is this really an issue? I only want XP for familiarisation purposes, I much prefer Win98. Perhaps 6 months down the track I may put XP on in a fully funtional manner, but for now I just dont want to be left behind at college because I have to fumble my way around the OS. Thanks heaps Jeff, its exactly this sort of interaction that I am looking for, whether it be positive or negative regarding pro's and cons. regards Jane ------------------------------ 3)What sort of "preparation" should I do just prior to instal. 7)Do the two OS's know that each other are there, or will they both just act as if they themselves are Primary. Oh, my Ddrive is 10gigabytes. Some comp details a: AMD processor 1.33gig 256SDRAM, 40gig HD (partitioned to C D & E.) |
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Jeff,
I just realised I quoted something silly, it was in regard to NTSF and FAT32. So, in general, you are saying that it is perfectly fine for me to put XP on my Win98 machine on a clean separate drive. (hope so, because that is all I really want to hear.) Is there any particular way you would do it. IE, after formatting would you simply plonk the XP disk in and tell it to instal to the drive you prepared? Would you do it from Dos, or just go to your Rom and locate the Setup files then point to where you want it to Setup.? Is the Installation different to Win98;; like, are there any tips or hints you would offer that you wished someone had of told you about in the first instance? thanks Jeff, regards Jane (if you sense Fear, it is only because I cant afford to mess this up if I go ahead and do it; I'm really in a 'damned if you do, damned if you dont' situation. Personally I'd rather not do it until I am more proficient in all areas, but I wont get more proficient until I learn more at college............ and THEY use xp.) |
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http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/u...multiboot.mspx
http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/u...e/meandxp.mspx Hi again Hugh,,, The information contained on the above links would have to be the most un-informative pages I have ever read, I could learn more from a donald duck comic. Not saying this is anything to do with you hugh, I am just stating how the title(s) of the said pages relay Nothing of use to a person who is about to do what the pages state in their heading. This is Exactly the Reason I brought my question(s) to people I trust in this group, especially people who have been through what I am contemplating. Did you read those pages hugh,? especially the second link, of which is the only one that relates to putting xp on a system that has 98 on it. It is as if the writer of those pages deliberately held back all relevant info, it was pitiful to peruse. Do you know of any links that can talk a person through the exact "Procedure" when doing an instal of xp on a machine running 98? regards Jane |
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Perhaps you didn't notice that the first link is to an article with four
pages--navigation button is at bottom-right of the article. Hugh's second link is to Page 4 of the first link. Hugh's suggestions, from what I can tell, were mostly intended to answer your first question, "What do I need to know about Dual-Booting?" But really, it's simple to install a multi-boot system with Windows XP. Just make sure there's sufficient empty space on your hard drive--say 8 GB. It doesn't even have to have a partition installed to the free space, but if there is, make sure the partition is disposable--has nothing you want to keep. Then put in the XP CD and restart. Then follow directions. The only thing you have to know besides that (and whether your system can handle XP in the first place) is that the Win98 OS won't be able to see the NTFS partition if that's what you use. XP will be able to see *everything*, but so long as you don't mess with files on the WIN98 system partition while in XP, you're safe. Yes, there are more complicated ways to multi-boot XP with WIN98, including ways that hide both sides from each other, and that aren't interdependent (if you get rid of the Windows 98 side using the standard methods, since that's the boot partition, you'll need to repair XP afterwards.) But they are more complicated and require 3rd-party apps like BootIt NG. -- Gary S. Terhune MS MVP Shell/User http://www.grystmill.com/articles/cleanboot.htm http://www.grystmill.com/articles/security.htm "jane" wrote in message ... http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/u...multiboot.mspx http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/u...e/meandxp.mspx Hi again Hugh,,, The information contained on the above links would have to be the most un-informative pages I have ever read, I could learn more from a donald duck comic. Not saying this is anything to do with you hugh, I am just stating how the title(s) of the said pages relay Nothing of use to a person who is about to do what the pages state in their heading. This is Exactly the Reason I brought my question(s) to people I trust in this group, especially people who have been through what I am contemplating. Did you read those pages hugh,? especially the second link, of which is the only one that relates to putting xp on a system that has 98 on it. It is as if the writer of those pages deliberately held back all relevant info, it was pitiful to peruse. Do you know of any links that can talk a person through the exact "Procedure" when doing an instal of xp on a machine running 98? regards Jane |
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"jane" wrote in message
... 3. Make sure the hardware is capable of running XP, and that you have XP drivers for all your devices. 256Mb is just sufficient to run XP, but it won't be speedy. Not looking for Speedy, just want to get to know the Interface. What sort of Hardware are you refering to Jeff? Shouldnt all and any Drivers be on the XP cd? Does the average mum n' dad have to go searching for Drivers when they probably dont even know what one is? You can't assume that drivers for all devices will be on the XP installation CD. MS includes what they can, but it's not everything, and it might not be the latest version. One useful option is to uninstall and remove non-critical hardware addons, and add them back after the instal. One way to confirm your hardware is compatible is to find the XP drivers for it - even if you don't need them. 7. Each OS will know the other is there, because they will each have access to the same hard drives (assuming you keep drive D as FAT32). There is no such thing as a 'primary' OS - there is only the OS that is currently running. Isnt it better to have XP with NTFS? Is this really an issue? I only want XP for familiarisation purposes, I much prefer Win98. Perhaps 6 months down the track I may put XP on in a fully funtional manner, but for now I just dont want to be left behind at college because I have to fumble my way around the OS. NTFS will be best for XP, and some features you might cover at College (such as quotas) will require it. But W98 will not be able to access a NTFS partition, so your two systems will be 'different' in that respect. It depends on the relative value of having a full-featured XP system vs one that is more compatible with W98. As this is a learning exercise, I would go with NTFS, despite the fact that turning it back into FAT32 when you uninstall is slightly more complex. Thanks heaps Jeff, its exactly this sort of interaction that I am looking for, whether it be positive or negative regarding pro's and cons. regards Jane ------------------------------ 3)What sort of "preparation" should I do just prior to instal. 7)Do the two OS's know that each other are there, or will they both just act as if they themselves are Primary. Oh, my Ddrive is 10gigabytes. Some comp details a: AMD processor 1.33gig 256SDRAM, 40gig HD (partitioned to C D & E.) |
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The arrangement you are planning is a standard procedure for XP installation
and is fully supported in the XP installation options. For details of the exact procedure you are best to ask in an X group (lurk in several, as gen discussion is very crowded and there might be a better one) and is covered in the on-line documentation, such as http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=306559 How To Create a Multiple-Boot System in Windows XP http://www.aumha.org/win5/a/xpupgrad.htm Upgrading to WINDOWS XP Note the reference to the README.HTM file on your Windows XP CD-ROM and how to access it - it will answer a lot of questions. -- Jeff Richards MS MVP (Windows - Shell/User) "jane" wrote in message ... Jeff, I just realised I quoted something silly, it was in regard to NTSF and FAT32. So, in general, you are saying that it is perfectly fine for me to put XP on my Win98 machine on a clean separate drive. (hope so, because that is all I really want to hear.) Is there any particular way you would do it. IE, after formatting would you simply plonk the XP disk in and tell it to instal to the drive you prepared? Would you do it from Dos, or just go to your Rom and locate the Setup files then point to where you want it to Setup.? Is the Installation different to Win98;; like, are there any tips or hints you would offer that you wished someone had of told you about in the first instance? thanks Jeff, regards Jane |
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