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Old June 22nd 04, 01:40 PM
Estelle
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Default System freezing

My system (Win 98) freezes almost every time the system
has been standing idle for a while. Sometimes the system
will have rebooted itself and will be on the "Networking
Password" screen. I've disabled the screensaver. I've also
run as many virus checks as I can find - all of which say
my system is clean.

There doesn't seem to be any pattern to when it freezes -
sometimes I'll leave it overnight and it'll be fine, but
more often than not it's either frozen or re-booted.

Also, while working, every so often the mouse will freeze
for about 3-4 seconds.

All of the above leads me to think it's something that
intermittently runs in the background that causes both
problems????


Any thoughts

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Old June 22nd 04, 02:46 PM
Eric
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Default System freezing

Perhaps this article will help you address the problem:

http://www.pcbuyerbeware.co.uk/Softw...ems.htm#LOCKUP

Eric,
http://www.pcbuyerbeware.co.uk/
http://www.sharedbirthday.co.uk/

-----Original Message-----
My system (Win 98) freezes almost every time the system
has been standing idle for a while. Sometimes the system
will have rebooted itself and will be on the "Networking
Password" screen. I've disabled the screensaver. I've also
run as many virus checks as I can find - all of which say
my system is clean.

There doesn't seem to be any pattern to when it freezes -
sometimes I'll leave it overnight and it'll be fine, but
more often than not it's either frozen or re-booted.

Also, while working, every so often the mouse will freeze
for about 3-4 seconds.

All of the above leads me to think it's something that
intermittently runs in the background that causes both
problems????


Any thoughts

.

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Old June 22nd 04, 10:07 PM
PCR
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Default System freezing

A quick thing might be to try Safe Mode, to see whether it freezes
there. If not, then it is likely something in the Startup Group or a
32-bit Normal Mode driver doing it. Then, there is an MSCONFIG
troubleshooting method for that, explained in "START, Help, Contents,
Troubleshooting, Windows 98 Troubleshooters, Startup & Shutdown
section".
http://support.microsoft.com/support/windows/tshoot
That also is the Troubleshooters.

Also...
http://support.microsoft.com/default...b;en-us;281965
How to Troubleshoot Using the Msconfig Utility with Windows 98
(281965) - This article describes how to use the Microsoft System
Configuration (Msconfig) utility to troubleshoot configuration errors in
Windows 98 and Windows 98 Second Edition.

Careful with that one, though. Don't turn off System.ini or Win.ini,
unless you know how to restore them in DOS.

To get to Safe Mode, hit F5 as you boot. Or hit Ctrl for the Startup
Menu, if not already enabled at "START, Run, MSConfig, Advanced button".

(1) The mouse & keyboard are the ones with moving parts, & they are
"hooked", meaning tasks will run each time you touch one. Therefore,
with the computer off, unplug the mouse & hold by it's tail until it may
stop spinning & squawking. Also, open & clean the ball & rollers. That
is not a design you may see on the rollers-- it is a band of dirt
running round the center! Also, unplug the keyboard, turn it round &
spank it.

(2) If disabling your virus checker's auto-"System" scan, using it's
Tray button, leaving the other types on, gives immediate & dramatic
relief, I have further info. This supposedly applies to Scan Engine
4.1.60.

(3)
http://support.microsoft.com/default...51&Product=w98
USB Mouse May Hang When the Computer Is Idle for a Long Time

So, if you have "Find Fast", try disabling that.
http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=199787
OFF2000: How to Turn Off the Find Fast Indexer
http://support.microsoft.com/default...b;en-us;158705
OFF97: How to Disable the Find Fast Indexer
http://support.microsoft.com/default...b;en-us;135476
OFF95: Office for Windows 95 Find Fast Indexer Overview

(4) For sluggishness in navigating folders: Open Explorer, R-Clk My
Documents in the left pane, & select Properties. How many folders
does it contain? If it is around 100, try moving them out. Reboot. Is
your sluggishness gone?

(5)
.........Quote................
This malware will do just that, check it out.

--
Henri Leboeuf
Web page:
http://www.colba.net/~hlebo49/index.htm
.........End of quote......

Update definitions & check for viruses, and...
http://aumha.org/a/parasite.htm
http://mvps.org/winhelp2002/unwanted.htm
http://www.mvps.org/inetexplorer/Darnit.htm#tshoot
http://patrick.kolla.de/spybotsd.html SpyBot- Search & Destroy. SpyBot
is gabby in it's "Checks" & "Fixes" logs. Turn them off in "Settings".
http://www.lavasoftusa.com/ AdAware
http://www.lavasoftusa.de/ Also AdAware
http://www.merijn.org/cwschronicles.html CoolWebSearch Chronicles
http://www.merijn.org/files/cwshredder.zip & CWShredder
http://www.merijn.org/files/hijackthis.zip Finally, Hijack This
http://aumha.org/a/hjttutor.htm
Hijack This Logs Tutorial-- MUST read!
....may find something. (Actually, they certainly will.)


--
Thanks or Good Luck,
There may be humor in this post, and,
Naturally, you will not sue,
should things get worse after this,
PCR

"Estelle" wrote in message
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| My system (Win 98) freezes almost every time the system
| has been standing idle for a while. Sometimes the system
| will have rebooted itself and will be on the "Networking
| Password" screen. I've disabled the screensaver. I've also
| run as many virus checks as I can find - all of which say
| my system is clean.
|
| There doesn't seem to be any pattern to when it freezes -
| sometimes I'll leave it overnight and it'll be fine, but
| more often than not it's either frozen or re-booted.
|
| Also, while working, every so often the mouse will freeze
| for about 3-4 seconds.
|
| All of the above leads me to think it's something that
| intermittently runs in the background that causes both
| problems????
|
|
| Any thoughts
|


 




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