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Old August 18th 05, 04:29 PM
meirman
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Default CD Rom isn't found by windows.

My CD Rom isn't found by windows 98SE. One of the two installed is
recognized by the beginning BIOS hardware display.

First a background question that might be related. Does it matter if
the line in config.sys and autoexec.bat for the CD operate or not,
once one gets to windows?

(There are three lines in the config.sys that end in " /d:mscd001 "
but if the oakcdrom.sys is allowed to run, config.sys freezes (as
shown with step-by-step start). Then, even though the other two lines
have run ok, the line in autexec.bat, c:\windows\command\mscdex.exe
/d:mscd001 , shows an error because there is no mscd001!)

Second, when windows starts, it only shows A:, B: and C: drives. In
control panel/System, there used to be a whole array of hardware, but
I deleted the multimedia lines that had ? marks, because the hardware
has been changed, and all of a sudden there is NO hardware listed,
only one group with a ? mark, and within that, one item with a
question mark.

The CD's I have include a CD writer and a DVD player. I thought that
though they wouldn't run these fancy functions without their own
software, but they would run as a basic CD reader with just what
Windows includes. Yes?

Any ideas?



**which I have, but it's on another computer and I can't transfer it
yet.



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Old August 19th 05, 07:13 AM
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There is no need for those entries to be in the autoexec.bat and config.sys.
Rename both of them by changing the extension to: .old Once done,
reboot and see what happens.

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"meirman" wrote in message
...
My CD Rom isn't found by windows 98SE. One of the two installed is
recognized by the beginning BIOS hardware display.

First a background question that might be related. Does it matter if
the line in config.sys and autoexec.bat for the CD operate or not,
once one gets to windows?

(There are three lines in the config.sys that end in " /d:mscd001 "
but if the oakcdrom.sys is allowed to run, config.sys freezes (as
shown with step-by-step start). Then, even though the other two lines
have run ok, the line in autexec.bat, c:\windows\command\mscdex.exe
/d:mscd001 , shows an error because there is no mscd001!)

Second, when windows starts, it only shows A:, B: and C: drives. In
control panel/System, there used to be a whole array of hardware, but
I deleted the multimedia lines that had ? marks, because the hardware
has been changed, and all of a sudden there is NO hardware listed,
only one group with a ? mark, and within that, one item with a
question mark.

The CD's I have include a CD writer and a DVD player. I thought that
though they wouldn't run these fancy functions without their own
software, but they would run as a basic CD reader with just what
Windows includes. Yes?

Any ideas?



**which I have, but it's on another computer and I can't transfer it
yet.



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Old August 24th 05, 04:11 AM
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In microsoft.public.win98.multimedia on Fri, 19 Aug 2005 01:13:33
-0500 "Ron Badour" posted:

There is no need for those entries to be in the autoexec.bat and config.sys.
Rename both of them by changing the extension to: .old Once done,
reboot and see what happens.


Thanks for replying.

Did what you said. Windows still doesen't find either CD drive. I
switched one CD drive to a simple old CD drive, but it doesn't show up
either.

Each CD drive lights up during boot-up, and the Bios grid display
lists both CD's. Then comes the table of plugn'play, or
Non-plugn'play items, and one CD is listed but not the second one
(along with 4 or 5 other things including a controller -- the lines
fly by quickly.)

But once in Windows 98SE, no evidence of either CD drive. Not listed
in Explorer. In Device Manager, I deleted the lines with Question
Marks, because I didn't have all the hardware that went with this
previously used HD, and now there is nothing in Device Manager except
one category with a question mark, and one line within that category,
also with a question mark.

Meirman

Regards


Ron Badour, MS MVP for W98

"meirman" wrote in message
.. .
My CD Rom isn't found by windows 98SE. One of the two installed is
recognized by the beginning BIOS hardware display.
...

Second, when windows starts, it only shows A:, B: and C: drives. In
control panel/System, there used to be a whole array of hardware, but
I deleted the multimedia lines that had ? marks, because the hardware
has been changed, and all of a sudden there is NO hardware listed,
only one group with a ? mark, and within that, one item with a
question mark.

The CD's I have include a CD writer and a DVD player. I thought that
though they wouldn't run these fancy functions without their own
software, but they would run as a basic CD reader with just what
Windows includes. Yes?

Any ideas?
Meirman



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Old August 26th 05, 11:23 AM
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Try booting to safe mode and see what's listed in device manager. If there
are some old devices still listed there, remove them and re-boot.
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Jeff Richards
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"meirman" wrote in message
...
In microsoft.public.win98.multimedia on Fri, 19 Aug 2005 01:13:33
-0500 "Ron Badour" posted:

There is no need for those entries to be in the autoexec.bat and
config.sys.
Rename both of them by changing the extension to: .old Once done,
reboot and see what happens.


Thanks for replying.

Did what you said. Windows still doesen't find either CD drive. I
switched one CD drive to a simple old CD drive, but it doesn't show up
either.

Each CD drive lights up during boot-up, and the Bios grid display
lists both CD's. Then comes the table of plugn'play, or
Non-plugn'play items, and one CD is listed but not the second one
(along with 4 or 5 other things including a controller -- the lines
fly by quickly.)

But once in Windows 98SE, no evidence of either CD drive. Not listed
in Explorer. In Device Manager, I deleted the lines with Question
Marks, because I didn't have all the hardware that went with this
previously used HD, and now there is nothing in Device Manager except
one category with a question mark, and one line within that category,
also with a question mark.

Meirman

Regards


Ron Badour, MS MVP for W98

"meirman" wrote in message
. ..
My CD Rom isn't found by windows 98SE. One of the two installed is
recognized by the beginning BIOS hardware display.
...

Second, when windows starts, it only shows A:, B: and C: drives. In
control panel/System, there used to be a whole array of hardware, but
I deleted the multimedia lines that had ? marks, because the hardware
has been changed, and all of a sudden there is NO hardware listed,
only one group with a ? mark, and within that, one item with a
question mark.

The CD's I have include a CD writer and a DVD player. I thought that
though they wouldn't run these fancy functions without their own
software, but they would run as a basic CD reader with just what
Windows includes. Yes?

Any ideas?
Meirman



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Old August 27th 05, 12:16 PM
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Normally, unless the PC is terribly dated, the bios should find both ATAPI
devices.
Some CD reading devices require a mscdex entry to work in wondows. But, its
rare. You have a name brand PC, if so what is the brand name?
You or someone changed hardware. What hardware was changed from what to
what?
Was the hard drive pulled from another PC? If so, did it have the original
operating system while it was moved?

"meirman" wrote in message
...
My CD Rom isn't found by windows 98SE. One of the two installed is
recognized by the beginning BIOS hardware display.

First a background question that might be related. Does it matter if
the line in config.sys and autoexec.bat for the CD operate or not,
once one gets to windows?

(There are three lines in the config.sys that end in " /d:mscd001 "
but if the oakcdrom.sys is allowed to run, config.sys freezes (as
shown with step-by-step start). Then, even though the other two lines
have run ok, the line in autexec.bat, c:\windows\command\mscdex.exe
/d:mscd001 , shows an error because there is no mscd001!)

Second, when windows starts, it only shows A:, B: and C: drives. In
control panel/System, there used to be a whole array of hardware, but
I deleted the multimedia lines that had ? marks, because the hardware
has been changed, and all of a sudden there is NO hardware listed,
only one group with a ? mark, and within that, one item with a
question mark.

The CD's I have include a CD writer and a DVD player. I thought that
though they wouldn't run these fancy functions without their own
software, but they would run as a basic CD reader with just what
Windows includes. Yes?

Any ideas?



**which I have, but it's on another computer and I can't transfer it
yet.



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Old August 28th 05, 06:09 PM
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In microsoft.public.win98.multimedia on Fri, 26 Aug 2005 20:23:35
+1000 "Jeff Richards" posted:

Try booting to safe mode and see what's listed in device manager. If there
are some old devices still listed there, remove them and re-boot.


Sounds good. I went to safe mode and there was a big long list of
devices in Device manager. I didn't look if there was a CD, because
iirc that is one of the things that can't be used in Safe mode.

There was one device with a ? mark, and I deleted it.

When I got back to regular mode, the ? mark I referred to in the prior
post was gone, and now there was only one line iln Device Manager, a
blue line at the top. I think it said Windows, and there was nothing
underneath, not even a question mark.

Went bakc to safe mode, and there was that long list again.

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Old August 28th 05, 06:30 PM
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In microsoft.public.win98.multimedia on Sat, 27 Aug 2005 06:16:31
-0500 "Lil' Dave" posted:

Normally, unless the PC is terribly dated, the bios should find both ATAPI
devices.


The Mobo is pretty new. It accepts an 800Mhz processor and maybe one
step higher than that.

Some CD reading devices require a mscdex entry to work in wondows. But, its
rare. You have a name brand PC, if so what is the brand name?


The motherboard is an Iwill. The model number is in the basement.

You or someone changed hardware. What hardware was changed from what to
what?


Every piece of hardware came from somewhere different in my friend's
fleet of computers. Two at his house, two at his mother's, and one or
two others, all of which get upgraded either once in a while or all in
the same year.

(I wish he would give me the CD's that come with the devices, but he
says I should download the files. Of course that usually only gives
drivers, and not the application programs most things come with. But
beggars can't be choosers.)

Was the hard drive pulled from another PC? If so, did it have the original
operating system while it was moved?


I'm sure it was. I don't plan to use it, only 4 gig, but I thought it
would be good enough to test with.

I haven't figured out the best way to do it, but I want to clone my
current harddrive, with all my email complete and assemble the new one
before I retrieve email again. So I want to know all the hardware I
plan to use works, and works well with this mobo.

"meirman" wrote in message
.. .
My CD Rom isn't found by windows 98SE. One of the two installed is
recognized by the beginning BIOS hardware display.

First a background question that might be related. Does it matter if
the line in config.sys and autoexec.bat for the CD operate or not,
once one gets to windows?

(There are three lines in the config.sys that end in " /d:mscd001 "
but if the oakcdrom.sys is allowed to run, config.sys freezes (as
shown with step-by-step start). Then, even though the other two lines
have run ok, the line in autexec.bat, c:\windows\command\mscdex.exe
/d:mscd001 , shows an error because there is no mscd001!)

Second, when windows starts, it only shows A:, B: and C: drives. In
control panel/System, there used to be a whole array of hardware, but
I deleted the multimedia lines that had ? marks, because the hardware
has been changed, and all of a sudden there is NO hardware listed,
only one group with a ? mark, and within that, one item with a
question mark.

The CD's I have include a CD writer and a DVD player. I thought that
though they wouldn't run these fancy functions without their own
software, but they would run as a basic CD reader with just what
Windows includes. Yes?

Any ideas?



**which I have, but it's on another computer and I can't transfer it
yet.



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Old August 29th 05, 11:41 AM
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And what happened when you deleted all the old devices from within safe
mode?
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"meirman" wrote in message
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In microsoft.public.win98.multimedia on Fri, 26 Aug 2005 20:23:35
+1000 "Jeff Richards" posted:

Try booting to safe mode and see what's listed in device manager. If
there
are some old devices still listed there, remove them and re-boot.


Sounds good. I went to safe mode and there was a big long list of
devices in Device manager. I didn't look if there was a CD, because
iirc that is one of the things that can't be used in Safe mode.

There was one device with a ? mark, and I deleted it.

When I got back to regular mode, the ? mark I referred to in the prior
post was gone, and now there was only one line iln Device Manager, a
blue line at the top. I think it said Windows, and there was nothing
underneath, not even a question mark.

Went bakc to safe mode, and there was that long list again.



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Old August 30th 05, 08:26 AM
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In microsoft.public.win98.multimedia on Mon, 29 Aug 2005 20:41:27
+1000 "Jeff Richards" posted:

And what happened when you deleted all the old devices from within safe
mode?


I'm working on that now. I will if possible let you know in a couple
days.


When I got back to regular mode, the ? mark I referred to in the prior
post was gone, and now there was only one line iln Device Manager, a
blue line at the top. I think it said Windows, and there was nothing
underneath, not even a question mark.


It said "Computer", not "Windows". Sorry.


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