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CAN'T INSTALL BELKIN NIC DRIVERS
Hello MEB,
I've had some time to examine your webpage, lots of useful stuff on networking and problems with, but I didn't find much on troubleshooting adapter installation. But to answer your last questions about the EXACT error message, this happens on boot-up and/or restart: Windows Networking window pops up... "Your network adapter Belkin Wireless 54Mbps Desktop Adapter (0001) is not working properly. You may need to set it up again. For more information, see the Network Troubleshooter in Windows Help". You also asked what is listed in Control PanelNetworks: Client for Microsoft Networks Belkin Wireless 54Mbps Desktop Adapter Dial-Up Adapter TCP/IP-Belkin Wireless 54Mbps Desktop Adapter TCP/IP-Dial-Up Adapter and... Primary Network Logon: Windows Logon. There's no problems with the modem/router as 3 other remote computers in my network connect to it OK. Have we come to the end of the road? Cheers, Sandy. "MEB" wrote: Sorry, marked this for response and overlooked it. Don't get lost in the page and links, it really isn't that difficult. The page is for general diagnostics and information/links to other materials which might be informative. Post back with success or if more personal help is needed. Good luck. -- MEB http://peoplescounsel.orgfree.com -- _________ "Sandy" wrote in message ... | Hi MEB, | | Gosh! You've given me a lot to look at & explore. Give me some time to | study all this and then I'll come back to you. Thanks. | | All the best, | | Sandy. | | "MEB" wrote: | | | | "Sandy" wrote in message | ... | | Good morning MEB and everybody else! | | | | OK some success. After going through the procedures we spoke about last | | week over the week-end, yes the NIC is now recognized properly, yes the | | drivers finally loaded successfully, but no, Windows says "there is a | problem | | with my NIC" on restart go & "run the troubleshooter"! As if I didn't do | | that in the first place! | | | | I have to say I think that this final message would rather indicate a | faulty | | card which may account for all the difficulties. What do you think? | | | | Regards, Sandy. | | | | What is the EXACT error message and what is now shown in Control Panel | Network. {NIC adapter {Belkin 54g wireless}} | | What you're looking for is TCP/IP set for Obtain IP automatically, no | Gateway, no WINS, and other *INITIALLY*. | HOWEVER, as this is part of a wireless network, the rest of the network | must be found. RUN * winipcfg * in the Start RUN box. | What is the address for your base unit/wireless router? | | Here's a general network diagnostic/setup page: | http://peoplescounsel.orgfree.com/re...NETWORKING.htm | | -- | MEB http://peoplescounsel.orgfree.com | -- | _________ | | | "MEB" wrote: | | | | Okay, please keep us informed. | | | | -- | | MEB http://peoplescounsel.orgfree.com | | -- | | _________ | | | | "Sandy" wrote in message | | ... | | | Gosh... more stuff to think about! Thanks for that MEB. I'll have a | go | | of | | | your suggestions over the week-end and see what happens. I'll come | back | | to | | | you next week. See you then. | | | | | | Sandy. | | | | | | "MEB" wrote: | | | | | | | | | "Sandy" wrote in message | | | ... | | | | Morning MEB (it is for me!), | | | | | | | | Thanks for your reply... lots of stuff for me to get my head | round! | | | | | | | | The only INF files I removed were the folders listed as Belkin & | | Broadcom, | | | | no others. | | | | | | Okay, that was important, we now can focus on other potentials. | | | | | | | | | | | http://kbserver.netgear.com/kb_web_files/N100393.asp - was the | | technique | | | you | | | | used similar to this? | | | | | | | | Just printed this off - useful stuff here, thanks. Yes sort off | in my | | | | fumbling way trying to muddle through. There are some extra steps | I | | can | | | try | | | | but what is really useful is I can follow through in a logical | | sequence. | | | | However, looking at the points between steps 15 & 16 ( I was | having | | | another | | | | go last night whilst waiting for this post), I noticed the card | was | | not | | | | identified. However, I will go through Netgears' sequence now | I've | | got it | | | & | | | | see what happens. | | | | | | Okay, if you look through some of those other links you'll note | that | | has | | | also occurred to others ... regretfully you are also "being put | through | | the | | | wringer" with your card. | | | | | | | | | | | Just been looking through the other links you suggested... perhaps | I | | | should | | | | be grateful I've got a Belkin & not a Linksys! General theme | seems to | | be | | | | change the card. Hmmm. Not convinced - yet. | | | | | | Well you have to remember that 98 was designed more for phone | access, | | and | | | within a network [business/commercial] which was handled by IT or | other | | | "experts". And these newer adapters are not designed for 98 or the | older | | | NTs. Not that the drivers would be difficult to provide, but that | the | | | manufacturer's programmers rely more upon Microsoft, and of course, | the | | | necessary MS certification. Moreover, the programmers can no longer | call | | | Microsoft to discuss issues that might occur in Microsoft's | un-supported | | | OSs, so that leaves them as needing to actually know how to program. | | Look at | | | any of the newer devices and you find these same difficulties. | | | | | | | | | | | Yes, on your other point I did go into Safe Mode to remove the | | 'device' | | | | because you're right, previous experience on this ghosting anomaly | can | | be | | | | quite revealing, all taking up valuable resources. | | | | | | Yes, that's always been important. Many later errors and issues can | be | | | back-traced to these ghosts. | | | | | | | | | | | Finally, like I said when playing last night, I did remove all | network | | | | protocols, clients et al. I must admit I can't remember if I | closed | | down | | | | before re-installing them or not. Can a card's drivers be loaded | | before | | | the | | | | Network elements are put in or does the network clients/protocols | have | | to | | | be | | | | in place first? | | | | | | Okay, make sure you shutdown before resetting the network. There is | | | potentially a DUN issue [yeah we scratch our heads on this one, | dial-up, | | | huh, why would that effect a network adapter, but it IS part of the | | | network]. The card drivers can be added as soon as possible, you | should | | have | | | had the Startup/New hardware found, ask for the drivers upon | startup, | | which | | | then are supposed to install the necessary TCP/IP and other files. | | | One thing I have found, is having the CABS for 98 in | | | {drive}:\Windows\Options\CABS, seems to ease installation of most | | devices. | | | Just copy the Win98 folder and contents from the CD to that folder. | | | | | | One registry entry needs changed though, so installations look | there | | rather | | | than asking for the CDROM: | | | --------- | | | REGEDIT4 | | | | | | [HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\Microsoft\Windows\Curr entVersion\Setup] | | | "SourcePath"="C:\\WINDOWS\\OPTIONS\\CABS\\" | | | | | | ----------- | | | This can be placed into a TEXT editor [including the blank line], | saved | | as | | | option-source.reg, and merged. Modify that to your actual windows | | | directory/folder if necessary. | | | It works much better if it was done before the update process as | any | | | updated files are/were copied/placed there as well, meaning you | won't be | | | installing OLD outdated files from the CDROM. | | | | | | On installers generally: | | | Looking at a number of NEW installers, I note that they constantly | check | | for | | | "administrator rights" [something necessary for NT] and NT files, | and | | fail | | | to include the old variables for "if its not present then do" | [that's | | not | | | the actual inclusions just what was done] which the OLD cross | platform | | | installers included. | | | The cross platforms now being addressed are XP and the necessary | VISTA | | | "special" envelope/requirements. | | | | | | Let us know how it goes... | | | | | | | | | | | Right! I better speak to the other guys now. Thanks for your | help | | MEB. | | | | | | | | Cheers, | | | | | | | | Sandy. | | | -- | | | MEB http://peoplescounsel.orgfree.com | | | -- | | | _________ | | | | | | | | | | | "MEB" wrote: | | | | | | | | | | | | Let me put both together: | | | | | | | | "Sandy" wrote in message | | | | news |
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CAN'T INSTALL BELKIN NIC DRIVERS
Did you install the software from the CD BEFORE installing the card? You
don't want Windows seeing the card and trying to install it before the support software is installed. http://belkin.httpsvc.vitalstreamcdn...000_manual.pdf -- Gary S. Terhune MS-MVP Shell/User www.grystmill.com "Sandy" wrote in message ... Hello MEB, I've had some time to examine your webpage, lots of useful stuff on networking and problems with, but I didn't find much on troubleshooting adapter installation. But to answer your last questions about the EXACT error message, this happens on boot-up and/or restart: Windows Networking window pops up... "Your network adapter Belkin Wireless 54Mbps Desktop Adapter (0001) is not working properly. You may need to set it up again. For more information, see the Network Troubleshooter in Windows Help". You also asked what is listed in Control PanelNetworks: Client for Microsoft Networks Belkin Wireless 54Mbps Desktop Adapter Dial-Up Adapter TCP/IP-Belkin Wireless 54Mbps Desktop Adapter TCP/IP-Dial-Up Adapter and... Primary Network Logon: Windows Logon. There's no problems with the modem/router as 3 other remote computers in my network connect to it OK. Have we come to the end of the road? Cheers, Sandy. "MEB" wrote: Sorry, marked this for response and overlooked it. Don't get lost in the page and links, it really isn't that difficult. The page is for general diagnostics and information/links to other materials which might be informative. Post back with success or if more personal help is needed. Good luck. -- MEB http://peoplescounsel.orgfree.com -- _________ "Sandy" wrote in message ... | Hi MEB, | | Gosh! You've given me a lot to look at & explore. Give me some time to | study all this and then I'll come back to you. Thanks. | | All the best, | | Sandy. | | "MEB" wrote: | | | | "Sandy" wrote in message | ... | | Good morning MEB and everybody else! | | | | OK some success. After going through the procedures we spoke about last | | week over the week-end, yes the NIC is now recognized properly, yes the | | drivers finally loaded successfully, but no, Windows says "there is a | problem | | with my NIC" on restart go & "run the troubleshooter"! As if I didn't do | | that in the first place! | | | | I have to say I think that this final message would rather indicate a | faulty | | card which may account for all the difficulties. What do you think? | | | | Regards, Sandy. | | | | What is the EXACT error message and what is now shown in Control Panel | Network. {NIC adapter {Belkin 54g wireless}} | | What you're looking for is TCP/IP set for Obtain IP automatically, no | Gateway, no WINS, and other *INITIALLY*. | HOWEVER, as this is part of a wireless network, the rest of the network | must be found. RUN * winipcfg * in the Start RUN box. | What is the address for your base unit/wireless router? | | Here's a general network diagnostic/setup page: | http://peoplescounsel.orgfree.com/re...NETWORKING.htm | | -- | MEB http://peoplescounsel.orgfree.com | -- | _________ | | | "MEB" wrote: | | | | Okay, please keep us informed. | | | | -- | | MEB http://peoplescounsel.orgfree.com | | -- | | _________ | | | | "Sandy" wrote in message | | ... | | | Gosh... more stuff to think about! Thanks for that MEB. I'll have a | go | | of | | | your suggestions over the week-end and see what happens. I'll come | back | | to | | | you next week. See you then. | | | | | | Sandy. | | | | | | "MEB" wrote: | | | | | | | | | "Sandy" wrote in message | | | ... | | | | Morning MEB (it is for me!), | | | | | | | | Thanks for your reply... lots of stuff for me to get my head | round! | | | | | | | | The only INF files I removed were the folders listed as Belkin & | | Broadcom, | | | | no others. | | | | | | Okay, that was important, we now can focus on other potentials. | | | | | | | | | | | http://kbserver.netgear.com/kb_web_files/N100393.asp - was the | | technique | | | you | | | | used similar to this? | | | | | | | | Just printed this off - useful stuff here, thanks. Yes sort off | in my | | | | fumbling way trying to muddle through. There are some extra steps | I | | can | | | try | | | | but what is really useful is I can follow through in a logical | | sequence. | | | | However, looking at the points between steps 15 & 16 ( I was | having | | | another | | | | go last night whilst waiting for this post), I noticed the card | was | | not | | | | identified. However, I will go through Netgears' sequence now | I've | | got it | | | & | | | | see what happens. | | | | | | Okay, if you look through some of those other links you'll note | that | | has | | | also occurred to others ... regretfully you are also "being put | through | | the | | | wringer" with your card. | | | | | | | | | | | Just been looking through the other links you suggested... perhaps | I | | | should | | | | be grateful I've got a Belkin & not a Linksys! General theme | seems to | | be | | | | change the card. Hmmm. Not convinced - yet. | | | | | | Well you have to remember that 98 was designed more for phone | access, | | and | | | within a network [business/commercial] which was handled by IT or | other | | | "experts". And these newer adapters are not designed for 98 or the | older | | | NTs. Not that the drivers would be difficult to provide, but that | the | | | manufacturer's programmers rely more upon Microsoft, and of course, | the | | | necessary MS certification. Moreover, the programmers can no longer | call | | | Microsoft to discuss issues that might occur in Microsoft's | un-supported | | | OSs, so that leaves them as needing to actually know how to program. | | Look at | | | any of the newer devices and you find these same difficulties. | | | | | | | | | | | Yes, on your other point I did go into Safe Mode to remove the | | 'device' | | | | because you're right, previous experience on this ghosting anomaly | can | | be | | | | quite revealing, all taking up valuable resources. | | | | | | Yes, that's always been important. Many later errors and issues can | be | | | back-traced to these ghosts. | | | | | | | | | | | Finally, like I said when playing last night, I did remove all | network | | | | protocols, clients et al. I must admit I can't remember if I | closed | | down | | | | before re-installing them or not. Can a card's drivers be loaded | | before | | | the | | | | Network elements are put in or does the network clients/protocols | have | | to | | | be | | | | in place first? | | | | | | Okay, make sure you shutdown before resetting the network. There is | | | potentially a DUN issue [yeah we scratch our heads on this one, | dial-up, | | | huh, why would that effect a network adapter, but it IS part of the | | | network]. The card drivers can be added as soon as possible, you | should | | have | | | had the Startup/New hardware found, ask for the drivers upon | startup, | | which | | | then are supposed to install the necessary TCP/IP and other files. | | | One thing I have found, is having the CABS for 98 in | | | {drive}:\Windows\Options\CABS, seems to ease installation of most | | devices. | | | Just copy the Win98 folder and contents from the CD to that folder. | | | | | | One registry entry needs changed though, so installations look | there | | rather | | | than asking for the CDROM: | | | --------- | | | REGEDIT4 | | | | | | [HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\Microsoft\Windows\Curr entVersion\Setup] | | | "SourcePath"="C:\\WINDOWS\\OPTIONS\\CABS\\" | | | | | | ----------- | | | This can be placed into a TEXT editor [including the blank line], | saved | | as | | | option-source.reg, and merged. Modify that to your actual windows | | | directory/folder if necessary. | | | It works much better if it was done before the update process as | any | | | updated files are/were copied/placed there as well, meaning you | won't be | | | installing OLD outdated files from the CDROM. | | | | | | On installers generally: | | | Looking at a number of NEW installers, I note that they constantly | check | | for | | | "administrator rights" [something necessary for NT] and NT files, | and | | fail | | | to include the old variables for "if its not present then do" | [that's | | not | | | the actual inclusions just what was done] which the OLD cross | platform | | | installers included. | | | The cross platforms now being addressed are XP and the necessary | VISTA | | | "special" envelope/requirements. | | | | | | Let us know how it goes... | | | | | | | | | | | Right! I better speak to the other guys now. Thanks for your | help | | MEB. | | | | | | | | Cheers, | | | | | | | | Sandy. | | | -- | | | MEB http://peoplescounsel.orgfree.com | | | -- | | | _________ | | | | | | | | | | | "MEB" wrote: | | | | | | | | | | | | Let me put both together: | | | | | | | | "Sandy" wrote in message | | | | news |
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CAN'T INSTALL BELKIN NIC DRIVERS
Did you install the software from the CD BEFORE installing the card? You
don't want Windows seeing the card and trying to install it before the support software is installed. http://belkin.httpsvc.vitalstreamcdn...000_manual.pdf -- Gary S. Terhune MS-MVP Shell/User www.grystmill.com "Sandy" wrote in message ... Hello MEB, I've had some time to examine your webpage, lots of useful stuff on networking and problems with, but I didn't find much on troubleshooting adapter installation. But to answer your last questions about the EXACT error message, this happens on boot-up and/or restart: Windows Networking window pops up... "Your network adapter Belkin Wireless 54Mbps Desktop Adapter (0001) is not working properly. You may need to set it up again. For more information, see the Network Troubleshooter in Windows Help". You also asked what is listed in Control PanelNetworks: Client for Microsoft Networks Belkin Wireless 54Mbps Desktop Adapter Dial-Up Adapter TCP/IP-Belkin Wireless 54Mbps Desktop Adapter TCP/IP-Dial-Up Adapter and... Primary Network Logon: Windows Logon. There's no problems with the modem/router as 3 other remote computers in my network connect to it OK. Have we come to the end of the road? Cheers, Sandy. "MEB" wrote: Sorry, marked this for response and overlooked it. Don't get lost in the page and links, it really isn't that difficult. The page is for general diagnostics and information/links to other materials which might be informative. Post back with success or if more personal help is needed. Good luck. -- MEB http://peoplescounsel.orgfree.com -- _________ "Sandy" wrote in message ... | Hi MEB, | | Gosh! You've given me a lot to look at & explore. Give me some time to | study all this and then I'll come back to you. Thanks. | | All the best, | | Sandy. | | "MEB" wrote: | | | | "Sandy" wrote in message | ... | | Good morning MEB and everybody else! | | | | OK some success. After going through the procedures we spoke about last | | week over the week-end, yes the NIC is now recognized properly, yes the | | drivers finally loaded successfully, but no, Windows says "there is a | problem | | with my NIC" on restart go & "run the troubleshooter"! As if I didn't do | | that in the first place! | | | | I have to say I think that this final message would rather indicate a | faulty | | card which may account for all the difficulties. What do you think? | | | | Regards, Sandy. | | | | What is the EXACT error message and what is now shown in Control Panel | Network. {NIC adapter {Belkin 54g wireless}} | | What you're looking for is TCP/IP set for Obtain IP automatically, no | Gateway, no WINS, and other *INITIALLY*. | HOWEVER, as this is part of a wireless network, the rest of the network | must be found. RUN * winipcfg * in the Start RUN box. | What is the address for your base unit/wireless router? | | Here's a general network diagnostic/setup page: | http://peoplescounsel.orgfree.com/re...NETWORKING.htm | | -- | MEB http://peoplescounsel.orgfree.com | -- | _________ | | | "MEB" wrote: | | | | Okay, please keep us informed. | | | | -- | | MEB http://peoplescounsel.orgfree.com | | -- | | _________ | | | | "Sandy" wrote in message | | ... | | | Gosh... more stuff to think about! Thanks for that MEB. I'll have a | go | | of | | | your suggestions over the week-end and see what happens. I'll come | back | | to | | | you next week. See you then. | | | | | | Sandy. | | | | | | "MEB" wrote: | | | | | | | | | "Sandy" wrote in message | | | ... | | | | Morning MEB (it is for me!), | | | | | | | | Thanks for your reply... lots of stuff for me to get my head | round! | | | | | | | | The only INF files I removed were the folders listed as Belkin & | | Broadcom, | | | | no others. | | | | | | Okay, that was important, we now can focus on other potentials. | | | | | | | | | | | http://kbserver.netgear.com/kb_web_files/N100393.asp - was the | | technique | | | you | | | | used similar to this? | | | | | | | | Just printed this off - useful stuff here, thanks. Yes sort off | in my | | | | fumbling way trying to muddle through. There are some extra steps | I | | can | | | try | | | | but what is really useful is I can follow through in a logical | | sequence. | | | | However, looking at the points between steps 15 & 16 ( I was | having | | | another | | | | go last night whilst waiting for this post), I noticed the card | was | | not | | | | identified. However, I will go through Netgears' sequence now | I've | | got it | | | & | | | | see what happens. | | | | | | Okay, if you look through some of those other links you'll note | that | | has | | | also occurred to others ... regretfully you are also "being put | through | | the | | | wringer" with your card. | | | | | | | | | | | Just been looking through the other links you suggested... perhaps | I | | | should | | | | be grateful I've got a Belkin & not a Linksys! General theme | seems to | | be | | | | change the card. Hmmm. Not convinced - yet. | | | | | | Well you have to remember that 98 was designed more for phone | access, | | and | | | within a network [business/commercial] which was handled by IT or | other | | | "experts". And these newer adapters are not designed for 98 or the | older | | | NTs. Not that the drivers would be difficult to provide, but that | the | | | manufacturer's programmers rely more upon Microsoft, and of course, | the | | | necessary MS certification. Moreover, the programmers can no longer | call | | | Microsoft to discuss issues that might occur in Microsoft's | un-supported | | | OSs, so that leaves them as needing to actually know how to program. | | Look at | | | any of the newer devices and you find these same difficulties. | | | | | | | | | | | Yes, on your other point I did go into Safe Mode to remove the | | 'device' | | | | because you're right, previous experience on this ghosting anomaly | can | | be | | | | quite revealing, all taking up valuable resources. | | | | | | Yes, that's always been important. Many later errors and issues can | be | | | back-traced to these ghosts. | | | | | | | | | | | Finally, like I said when playing last night, I did remove all | network | | | | protocols, clients et al. I must admit I can't remember if I | closed | | down | | | | before re-installing them or not. Can a card's drivers be loaded | | before | | | the | | | | Network elements are put in or does the network clients/protocols | have | | to | | | be | | | | in place first? | | | | | | Okay, make sure you shutdown before resetting the network. There is | | | potentially a DUN issue [yeah we scratch our heads on this one, | dial-up, | | | huh, why would that effect a network adapter, but it IS part of the | | | network]. The card drivers can be added as soon as possible, you | should | | have | | | had the Startup/New hardware found, ask for the drivers upon | startup, | | which | | | then are supposed to install the necessary TCP/IP and other files. | | | One thing I have found, is having the CABS for 98 in | | | {drive}:\Windows\Options\CABS, seems to ease installation of most | | devices. | | | Just copy the Win98 folder and contents from the CD to that folder. | | | | | | One registry entry needs changed though, so installations look | there | | rather | | | than asking for the CDROM: | | | --------- | | | REGEDIT4 | | | | | | [HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\Microsoft\Windows\Curr entVersion\Setup] | | | "SourcePath"="C:\\WINDOWS\\OPTIONS\\CABS\\" | | | | | | ----------- | | | This can be placed into a TEXT editor [including the blank line], | saved | | as | | | option-source.reg, and merged. Modify that to your actual windows | | | directory/folder if necessary. | | | It works much better if it was done before the update process as | any | | | updated files are/were copied/placed there as well, meaning you | won't be | | | installing OLD outdated files from the CDROM. | | | | | | On installers generally: | | | Looking at a number of NEW installers, I note that they constantly | check | | for | | | "administrator rights" [something necessary for NT] and NT files, | and | | fail | | | to include the old variables for "if its not present then do" | [that's | | not | | | the actual inclusions just what was done] which the OLD cross | platform | | | installers included. | | | The cross platforms now being addressed are XP and the necessary | VISTA | | | "special" envelope/requirements. | | | | | | Let us know how it goes... | | | | | | | | | | | Right! I better speak to the other guys now. Thanks for your | help | | MEB. | | | | | | | | Cheers, | | | | | | | | Sandy. | | | -- | | | MEB http://peoplescounsel.orgfree.com | | | -- | | | _________ | | | | | | | | | | | "MEB" wrote: | | | | | | | | | | | | Let me put both together: | | | | | | | | "Sandy" wrote in message | | | | news |
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CAN'T INSTALL BELKIN NIC DRIVERS
Hi Gary,
Yes, the procedure is install the software, then install the card, then let Windows Plug n' Pray to install the drivers as per the manual (as per your link). Believe me, this has been done soooo many times! Cheers, Sandy. "Gary S. Terhune" wrote: Did you install the software from the CD BEFORE installing the card? You don't want Windows seeing the card and trying to install it before the support software is installed. http://belkin.httpsvc.vitalstreamcdn...000_manual.pdf -- Gary S. Terhune MS-MVP Shell/User www.grystmill.com "Sandy" wrote in message ... Hello MEB, I've had some time to examine your webpage, lots of useful stuff on networking and problems with, but I didn't find much on troubleshooting adapter installation. But to answer your last questions about the EXACT error message, this happens on boot-up and/or restart: Windows Networking window pops up... "Your network adapter Belkin Wireless 54Mbps Desktop Adapter (0001) is not working properly. You may need to set it up again. For more information, see the Network Troubleshooter in Windows Help". You also asked what is listed in Control PanelNetworks: Client for Microsoft Networks Belkin Wireless 54Mbps Desktop Adapter Dial-Up Adapter TCP/IP-Belkin Wireless 54Mbps Desktop Adapter TCP/IP-Dial-Up Adapter and... Primary Network Logon: Windows Logon. There's no problems with the modem/router as 3 other remote computers in my network connect to it OK. Have we come to the end of the road? Cheers, Sandy. "MEB" wrote: Sorry, marked this for response and overlooked it. Don't get lost in the page and links, it really isn't that difficult. The page is for general diagnostics and information/links to other materials which might be informative. Post back with success or if more personal help is needed. Good luck. -- MEB http://peoplescounsel.orgfree.com -- _________ "Sandy" wrote in message ... | Hi MEB, | | Gosh! You've given me a lot to look at & explore. Give me some time to | study all this and then I'll come back to you. Thanks. | | All the best, | | Sandy. | | "MEB" wrote: | | | | "Sandy" wrote in message | ... | | Good morning MEB and everybody else! | | | | OK some success. After going through the procedures we spoke about last | | week over the week-end, yes the NIC is now recognized properly, yes the | | drivers finally loaded successfully, but no, Windows says "there is a | problem | | with my NIC" on restart go & "run the troubleshooter"! As if I didn't do | | that in the first place! | | | | I have to say I think that this final message would rather indicate a | faulty | | card which may account for all the difficulties. What do you think? | | | | Regards, Sandy. | | | | What is the EXACT error message and what is now shown in Control Panel | Network. {NIC adapter {Belkin 54g wireless}} | | What you're looking for is TCP/IP set for Obtain IP automatically, no | Gateway, no WINS, and other *INITIALLY*. | HOWEVER, as this is part of a wireless network, the rest of the network | must be found. RUN * winipcfg * in the Start RUN box. | What is the address for your base unit/wireless router? | | Here's a general network diagnostic/setup page: | http://peoplescounsel.orgfree.com/re...NETWORKING.htm | | -- | MEB http://peoplescounsel.orgfree.com | -- | _________ | | | "MEB" wrote: | | | | Okay, please keep us informed. | | | | -- | | MEB http://peoplescounsel.orgfree.com | | -- | | _________ | | | | "Sandy" wrote in message | | ... | | | Gosh... more stuff to think about! Thanks for that MEB. I'll have a | go | | of | | | your suggestions over the week-end and see what happens. I'll come | back | | to | | | you next week. See you then. | | | | | | Sandy. | | | | | | "MEB" wrote: | | | | | | | | | "Sandy" wrote in message | | | ... | | | | Morning MEB (it is for me!), | | | | | | | | Thanks for your reply... lots of stuff for me to get my head | round! | | | | | | | | The only INF files I removed were the folders listed as Belkin & | | Broadcom, | | | | no others. | | | | | | Okay, that was important, we now can focus on other potentials. | | | | | | | | | | | http://kbserver.netgear.com/kb_web_files/N100393.asp - was the | | technique | | | you | | | | used similar to this? | | | | | | | | Just printed this off - useful stuff here, thanks. Yes sort off | in my | | | | fumbling way trying to muddle through. There are some extra steps | I | | can | | | try | | | | but what is really useful is I can follow through in a logical | | sequence. | | | | However, looking at the points between steps 15 & 16 ( I was | having | | | another | | | | go last night whilst waiting for this post), I noticed the card | was | | not | | | | identified. However, I will go through Netgears' sequence now | I've | | got it | | | & | | | | see what happens. | | | | | | Okay, if you look through some of those other links you'll note | that | | has | | | also occurred to others ... regretfully you are also "being put | through | | the | | | wringer" with your card. | | | | | | | | | | | Just been looking through the other links you suggested... perhaps | I | | | should | | | | be grateful I've got a Belkin & not a Linksys! General theme | seems to | | be | | | | change the card. Hmmm. Not convinced - yet. | | | | | | Well you have to remember that 98 was designed more for phone | access, | | and | | | within a network [business/commercial] which was handled by IT or | other | | | "experts". And these newer adapters are not designed for 98 or the | older | | | NTs. Not that the drivers would be difficult to provide, but that | the | | | manufacturer's programmers rely more upon Microsoft, and of course, | the | | | necessary MS certification. Moreover, the programmers can no longer | call | | | Microsoft to discuss issues that might occur in Microsoft's | un-supported | | | OSs, so that leaves them as needing to actually know how to program. | | Look at | | | any of the newer devices and you find these same difficulties. | | | | | | | | | | | Yes, on your other point I did go into Safe Mode to remove the | | 'device' | | | | because you're right, previous experience on this ghosting anomaly | can | | be | | | | quite revealing, all taking up valuable resources. | | | | | | Yes, that's always been important. Many later errors and issues can | be | | | back-traced to these ghosts. | | | | | | | | | | | Finally, like I said when playing last night, I did remove all | network | | | | protocols, clients et al. I must admit I can't remember if I | closed | | down | | | | before re-installing them or not. Can a card's drivers be loaded | | before | | | the | | | | Network elements are put in or does the network clients/protocols | have | | to | | | be | | | | in place first? | | | | | | Okay, make sure you shutdown before resetting the network. There is | | | potentially a DUN issue [yeah we scratch our heads on this one, | dial-up, | | | huh, why would that effect a network adapter, but it IS part of the | | | network]. The card drivers can be added as soon as possible, you | should | | have | | | had the Startup/New hardware found, ask for the drivers upon | startup, | | which | | | then are supposed to install the necessary TCP/IP and other files. | | | One thing I have found, is having the CABS for 98 in | | | {drive}:\Windows\Options\CABS, seems to ease installation of most | | devices. | | | Just copy the Win98 folder and contents from the CD to that |
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Hi Gary,
Yes, the procedure is install the software, then install the card, then let Windows Plug n' Pray to install the drivers as per the manual (as per your link). Believe me, this has been done soooo many times! Cheers, Sandy. "Gary S. Terhune" wrote: Did you install the software from the CD BEFORE installing the card? You don't want Windows seeing the card and trying to install it before the support software is installed. http://belkin.httpsvc.vitalstreamcdn...000_manual.pdf -- Gary S. Terhune MS-MVP Shell/User www.grystmill.com "Sandy" wrote in message ... Hello MEB, I've had some time to examine your webpage, lots of useful stuff on networking and problems with, but I didn't find much on troubleshooting adapter installation. But to answer your last questions about the EXACT error message, this happens on boot-up and/or restart: Windows Networking window pops up... "Your network adapter Belkin Wireless 54Mbps Desktop Adapter (0001) is not working properly. You may need to set it up again. For more information, see the Network Troubleshooter in Windows Help". You also asked what is listed in Control PanelNetworks: Client for Microsoft Networks Belkin Wireless 54Mbps Desktop Adapter Dial-Up Adapter TCP/IP-Belkin Wireless 54Mbps Desktop Adapter TCP/IP-Dial-Up Adapter and... Primary Network Logon: Windows Logon. There's no problems with the modem/router as 3 other remote computers in my network connect to it OK. Have we come to the end of the road? Cheers, Sandy. "MEB" wrote: Sorry, marked this for response and overlooked it. Don't get lost in the page and links, it really isn't that difficult. The page is for general diagnostics and information/links to other materials which might be informative. Post back with success or if more personal help is needed. Good luck. -- MEB http://peoplescounsel.orgfree.com -- _________ "Sandy" wrote in message ... | Hi MEB, | | Gosh! You've given me a lot to look at & explore. Give me some time to | study all this and then I'll come back to you. Thanks. | | All the best, | | Sandy. | | "MEB" wrote: | | | | "Sandy" wrote in message | ... | | Good morning MEB and everybody else! | | | | OK some success. After going through the procedures we spoke about last | | week over the week-end, yes the NIC is now recognized properly, yes the | | drivers finally loaded successfully, but no, Windows says "there is a | problem | | with my NIC" on restart go & "run the troubleshooter"! As if I didn't do | | that in the first place! | | | | I have to say I think that this final message would rather indicate a | faulty | | card which may account for all the difficulties. What do you think? | | | | Regards, Sandy. | | | | What is the EXACT error message and what is now shown in Control Panel | Network. {NIC adapter {Belkin 54g wireless}} | | What you're looking for is TCP/IP set for Obtain IP automatically, no | Gateway, no WINS, and other *INITIALLY*. | HOWEVER, as this is part of a wireless network, the rest of the network | must be found. RUN * winipcfg * in the Start RUN box. | What is the address for your base unit/wireless router? | | Here's a general network diagnostic/setup page: | http://peoplescounsel.orgfree.com/re...NETWORKING.htm | | -- | MEB http://peoplescounsel.orgfree.com | -- | _________ | | | "MEB" wrote: | | | | Okay, please keep us informed. | | | | -- | | MEB http://peoplescounsel.orgfree.com | | -- | | _________ | | | | "Sandy" wrote in message | | ... | | | Gosh... more stuff to think about! Thanks for that MEB. I'll have a | go | | of | | | your suggestions over the week-end and see what happens. I'll come | back | | to | | | you next week. See you then. | | | | | | Sandy. | | | | | | "MEB" wrote: | | | | | | | | | "Sandy" wrote in message | | | ... | | | | Morning MEB (it is for me!), | | | | | | | | Thanks for your reply... lots of stuff for me to get my head | round! | | | | | | | | The only INF files I removed were the folders listed as Belkin & | | Broadcom, | | | | no others. | | | | | | Okay, that was important, we now can focus on other potentials. | | | | | | | | | | | http://kbserver.netgear.com/kb_web_files/N100393.asp - was the | | technique | | | you | | | | used similar to this? | | | | | | | | Just printed this off - useful stuff here, thanks. Yes sort off | in my | | | | fumbling way trying to muddle through. There are some extra steps | I | | can | | | try | | | | but what is really useful is I can follow through in a logical | | sequence. | | | | However, looking at the points between steps 15 & 16 ( I was | having | | | another | | | | go last night whilst waiting for this post), I noticed the card | was | | not | | | | identified. However, I will go through Netgears' sequence now | I've | | got it | | | & | | | | see what happens. | | | | | | Okay, if you look through some of those other links you'll note | that | | has | | | also occurred to others ... regretfully you are also "being put | through | | the | | | wringer" with your card. | | | | | | | | | | | Just been looking through the other links you suggested... perhaps | I | | | should | | | | be grateful I've got a Belkin & not a Linksys! General theme | seems to | | be | | | | change the card. Hmmm. Not convinced - yet. | | | | | | Well you have to remember that 98 was designed more for phone | access, | | and | | | within a network [business/commercial] which was handled by IT or | other | | | "experts". And these newer adapters are not designed for 98 or the | older | | | NTs. Not that the drivers would be difficult to provide, but that | the | | | manufacturer's programmers rely more upon Microsoft, and of course, | the | | | necessary MS certification. Moreover, the programmers can no longer | call | | | Microsoft to discuss issues that might occur in Microsoft's | un-supported | | | OSs, so that leaves them as needing to actually know how to program. | | Look at | | | any of the newer devices and you find these same difficulties. | | | | | | | | | | | Yes, on your other point I did go into Safe Mode to remove the | | 'device' | | | | because you're right, previous experience on this ghosting anomaly | can | | be | | | | quite revealing, all taking up valuable resources. | | | | | | Yes, that's always been important. Many later errors and issues can | be | | | back-traced to these ghosts. | | | | | | | | | | | Finally, like I said when playing last night, I did remove all | network | | | | protocols, clients et al. I must admit I can't remember if I | closed | | down | | | | before re-installing them or not. Can a card's drivers be loaded | | before | | | the | | | | Network elements are put in or does the network clients/protocols | have | | to | | | be | | | | in place first? | | | | | | Okay, make sure you shutdown before resetting the network. There is | | | potentially a DUN issue [yeah we scratch our heads on this one, | dial-up, | | | huh, why would that effect a network adapter, but it IS part of the | | | network]. The card drivers can be added as soon as possible, you | should | | have | | | had the Startup/New hardware found, ask for the drivers upon | startup, | | which | | | then are supposed to install the necessary TCP/IP and other files. | | | One thing I have found, is having the CABS for 98 in | | | {drive}:\Windows\Options\CABS, seems to ease installation of most | | devices. | | | Just copy the Win98 folder and contents from the CD to that |
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Sorry, slightly distracted. Did you check for proper TCP/IP settings, or did
you not get that far? IF the card is shown, but not working properly AND you did check the TCP/IP and it is correct, did you check for an upgrade {BIOS} for the device? Winipcfg Details {what}? Are you also using ICS in the system {or did you at one time?}? Did you try the ping diagnostics? -- MEB http://peoplescounsel.orgfree.com -- _________ "Sandy" wrote in message ... | Hello MEB, | | I've had some time to examine your webpage, lots of useful stuff on | networking and problems with, but I didn't find much on troubleshooting | adapter installation. But to answer your last questions about the EXACT | error message, this happens on boot-up and/or restart: Windows Networking | window pops up... | "Your network adapter Belkin Wireless 54Mbps Desktop Adapter (0001) is not | working properly. You may need to set it up again. For more information, | see the Network Troubleshooter in Windows Help". | | You also asked what is listed in Control PanelNetworks: | Client for Microsoft Networks | Belkin Wireless 54Mbps Desktop Adapter | Dial-Up Adapter | TCP/IP-Belkin Wireless 54Mbps Desktop Adapter | TCP/IP-Dial-Up Adapter | and... | Primary Network Logon: Windows Logon. | | There's no problems with the modem/router as 3 other remote computers in my | network connect to it OK. Have we come to the end of the road? | | Cheers, Sandy. | | "MEB" wrote: | | Sorry, marked this for response and overlooked it. Don't get lost in the | page and links, it really isn't that difficult. The page is for general | diagnostics and information/links to other materials which might be | informative. | | Post back with success or if more personal help is needed. Good luck. | | -- | MEB http://peoplescounsel.orgfree.com | -- | _________ | | "Sandy" wrote in message | ... | | Hi MEB, | | | | Gosh! You've given me a lot to look at & explore. Give me some time to | | study all this and then I'll come back to you. Thanks. | | | | All the best, | | | | Sandy. | | | | "MEB" wrote: | | | | | | | | "Sandy" wrote in message | | ... | | | Good morning MEB and everybody else! | | | | | | OK some success. After going through the procedures we spoke about | last | | | week over the week-end, yes the NIC is now recognized properly, yes | the | | | drivers finally loaded successfully, but no, Windows says "there is a | | problem | | | with my NIC" on restart go & "run the troubleshooter"! As if I didn't | do | | | that in the first place! | | | | | | I have to say I think that this final message would rather indicate a | | faulty | | | card which may account for all the difficulties. What do you think? | | | | | | Regards, Sandy. | | | | | | | What is the EXACT error message and what is now shown in Control Panel | | | Network. {NIC adapter {Belkin 54g wireless}} | | | | What you're looking for is TCP/IP set for Obtain IP automatically, no | | Gateway, no WINS, and other *INITIALLY*. | | HOWEVER, as this is part of a wireless network, the rest of the network | | must be found. RUN * winipcfg * in the Start RUN box. | | What is the address for your base unit/wireless router? | | | | Here's a general network diagnostic/setup page: | | http://peoplescounsel.orgfree.com/re...NETWORKING.htm | | | | -- | | MEB http://peoplescounsel.orgfree.com | | -- | | _________ | | | | | "MEB" wrote: | | | | | | Okay, please keep us informed. | | | | | | -- | | | MEB http://peoplescounsel.orgfree.com | | | -- | | | _________ | | | | | | "Sandy" wrote in message | | | ... | | | | Gosh... more stuff to think about! Thanks for that MEB. I'll | have a | | go | | | of | | | | your suggestions over the week-end and see what happens. I'll | come | | back | | | to | | | | you next week. See you then. | | | | | | | | Sandy. | | | | | | | | "MEB" wrote: | | | | | | | | | | | | "Sandy" wrote in message | | | | ... | | | | | Morning MEB (it is for me!), | | | | | | | | | | Thanks for your reply... lots of stuff for me to get my head | | round! | | | | | | | | | | The only INF files I removed were the folders listed as Belkin | & | | | Broadcom, | | | | | no others. | | | | | | | | Okay, that was important, we now can focus on other potentials. | | | | | | | | | | | | | | http://kbserver.netgear.com/kb_web_files/N100393.asp - was | the | | | technique | | | | you | | | | | used similar to this? | | | | | | | | | | Just printed this off - useful stuff here, thanks. Yes sort | off | | in my | | | | | fumbling way trying to muddle through. There are some extra | steps | | I | | | can | | | | try | | | | | but what is really useful is I can follow through in a logical | | | sequence. | | | | | However, looking at the points between steps 15 & 16 ( I was | | having | | | | another | | | | | go last night whilst waiting for this post), I noticed the | card | | was | | | not | | | | | identified. However, I will go through Netgears' sequence now | | I've | | | got it | | | | & | | | | | see what happens. | | | | | | | | Okay, if you look through some of those other links you'll note | | that | | | has | | | | also occurred to others ... regretfully you are also "being put | | through | | | the | | | | wringer" with your card. | | | | | | | | | | | | | | Just been looking through the other links you suggested... | perhaps | | I | | | | should | | | | | be grateful I've got a Belkin & not a Linksys! General theme | | seems to | | | be | | | | | change the card. Hmmm. Not convinced - yet. | | | | | | | | Well you have to remember that 98 was designed more for phone | | access, | | | and | | | | within a network [business/commercial] which was handled by IT | or | | other | | | | "experts". And these newer adapters are not designed for 98 or | the | | older | | | | NTs. Not that the drivers would be difficult to provide, but | that | | the | | | | manufacturer's programmers rely more upon Microsoft, and of | course, | | the | | | | necessary MS certification. Moreover, the programmers can no | longer | | call | | | | Microsoft to discuss issues that might occur in Microsoft's | | un-supported | | | | OSs, so that leaves them as needing to actually know how to | program. | | | Look at | | | | any of the newer devices and you find these same difficulties. | | | | | | | | | | | | | | Yes, on your other point I did go into Safe Mode to remove the | | | 'device' | | | | | because you're right, previous experience on this ghosting | anomaly | | can | | | be | | | | | quite revealing, all taking up valuable resources. | | | | | | | | Yes, that's always been important. Many later errors and issues | can | | be | | | | back-traced to these ghosts. | | | | | | | | | | | | | | Finally, like I said when playing last night, I did remove all | | network | | | | | protocols, clients et al. I must admit I can't remember if I | | closed | | | down | | | | | before re-installing them or not. Can a card's drivers be | loaded | | | before | | | | the | | | | | Network elements are put in or does the network | clients/protocols | | have | | | to | | | | be | | | | | in place first? | | | | | | | | Okay, make sure you shutdown before resetting the network. | There is | | | | potentially a DUN issue [yeah we scratch our heads on this one, | | dial-up, | | | | huh, why would that effect a network adapter, but it IS part of | the | | | | network]. The card drivers can be added as soon as possible, you | | should | | | have | | | | had the Startup/New hardware found, ask for the drivers upon | | startup, | | | which | | | | then are supposed to install the necessary TCP/IP and other | files. | | | | One thing I have found, is having the CABS for 98 in | | | | {drive}:\Windows\Options\CABS, seems to ease installation of | most | | | devices. | | | | Just copy the Win98 folder and contents from the CD to that | folder. | | | | | | | | One registry entry needs changed though, so installations look | | there | | | rather | | | | than asking for the CDROM: | | | | --------- | | | | REGEDIT4 | | | | | | | | | [HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\Microsoft\Windows\Curr entVersion\Setup] | | | | "SourcePath"="C:\\WINDOWS\\OPTIONS\\CABS\\" | | | | | | | | ----------- | | | | This can be placed into a TEXT editor [including the blank | line], | | saved | | | as | | | | option-source.reg, and merged. Modify that to your actual | windows | | | | directory/folder if necessary. | | | | It works much better if it was done before the update process | as | | any | | | | updated files are/were copied/placed there as well, meaning you | | won't be | | | | installing OLD outdated files from the CDROM. | | | | | | | | On installers generally: | | | | Looking at a number of NEW installers, I note that they | constantly | | check | | | for | | | | "administrator rights" [something necessary for NT] and NT | files, | | and | | | fail | | | | to include the old variables for "if its not present then do" | | [that's | | | not | | | | the actual inclusions just what was done] which the OLD cross | | platform | | | | installers included. | | | | The cross platforms now being addressed are XP and the | necessary | | VISTA | | | | "special" envelope/requirements. | | | | | | | | Let us know how it goes... | | | | | | | | | | | | | | Right! I better speak to the other guys now. Thanks for your | | help | | | MEB. | | | | | | | | | | Cheers, | | | | | | | | | | Sandy. | | | | -- | | | | MEB http://peoplescounsel.orgfree.com | | | | -- | | | | _________ | | | | | | | | | | | | | | "MEB" wrote: | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | Let me put both together: | | | | | | | | | | "Sandy" wrote in message | | | | | news |
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Sorry, slightly distracted. Did you check for proper TCP/IP settings, or did
you not get that far? IF the card is shown, but not working properly AND you did check the TCP/IP and it is correct, did you check for an upgrade {BIOS} for the device? Winipcfg Details {what}? Are you also using ICS in the system {or did you at one time?}? Did you try the ping diagnostics? -- MEB http://peoplescounsel.orgfree.com -- _________ "Sandy" wrote in message ... | Hello MEB, | | I've had some time to examine your webpage, lots of useful stuff on | networking and problems with, but I didn't find much on troubleshooting | adapter installation. But to answer your last questions about the EXACT | error message, this happens on boot-up and/or restart: Windows Networking | window pops up... | "Your network adapter Belkin Wireless 54Mbps Desktop Adapter (0001) is not | working properly. You may need to set it up again. For more information, | see the Network Troubleshooter in Windows Help". | | You also asked what is listed in Control PanelNetworks: | Client for Microsoft Networks | Belkin Wireless 54Mbps Desktop Adapter | Dial-Up Adapter | TCP/IP-Belkin Wireless 54Mbps Desktop Adapter | TCP/IP-Dial-Up Adapter | and... | Primary Network Logon: Windows Logon. | | There's no problems with the modem/router as 3 other remote computers in my | network connect to it OK. Have we come to the end of the road? | | Cheers, Sandy. | | "MEB" wrote: | | Sorry, marked this for response and overlooked it. Don't get lost in the | page and links, it really isn't that difficult. The page is for general | diagnostics and information/links to other materials which might be | informative. | | Post back with success or if more personal help is needed. Good luck. | | -- | MEB http://peoplescounsel.orgfree.com | -- | _________ | | "Sandy" wrote in message | ... | | Hi MEB, | | | | Gosh! You've given me a lot to look at & explore. Give me some time to | | study all this and then I'll come back to you. Thanks. | | | | All the best, | | | | Sandy. | | | | "MEB" wrote: | | | | | | | | "Sandy" wrote in message | | ... | | | Good morning MEB and everybody else! | | | | | | OK some success. After going through the procedures we spoke about | last | | | week over the week-end, yes the NIC is now recognized properly, yes | the | | | drivers finally loaded successfully, but no, Windows says "there is a | | problem | | | with my NIC" on restart go & "run the troubleshooter"! As if I didn't | do | | | that in the first place! | | | | | | I have to say I think that this final message would rather indicate a | | faulty | | | card which may account for all the difficulties. What do you think? | | | | | | Regards, Sandy. | | | | | | | What is the EXACT error message and what is now shown in Control Panel | | | Network. {NIC adapter {Belkin 54g wireless}} | | | | What you're looking for is TCP/IP set for Obtain IP automatically, no | | Gateway, no WINS, and other *INITIALLY*. | | HOWEVER, as this is part of a wireless network, the rest of the network | | must be found. RUN * winipcfg * in the Start RUN box. | | What is the address for your base unit/wireless router? | | | | Here's a general network diagnostic/setup page: | | http://peoplescounsel.orgfree.com/re...NETWORKING.htm | | | | -- | | MEB http://peoplescounsel.orgfree.com | | -- | | _________ | | | | | "MEB" wrote: | | | | | | Okay, please keep us informed. | | | | | | -- | | | MEB http://peoplescounsel.orgfree.com | | | -- | | | _________ | | | | | | "Sandy" wrote in message | | | ... | | | | Gosh... more stuff to think about! Thanks for that MEB. I'll | have a | | go | | | of | | | | your suggestions over the week-end and see what happens. I'll | come | | back | | | to | | | | you next week. See you then. | | | | | | | | Sandy. | | | | | | | | "MEB" wrote: | | | | | | | | | | | | "Sandy" wrote in message | | | | ... | | | | | Morning MEB (it is for me!), | | | | | | | | | | Thanks for your reply... lots of stuff for me to get my head | | round! | | | | | | | | | | The only INF files I removed were the folders listed as Belkin | & | | | Broadcom, | | | | | no others. | | | | | | | | Okay, that was important, we now can focus on other potentials. | | | | | | | | | | | | | | http://kbserver.netgear.com/kb_web_files/N100393.asp - was | the | | | technique | | | | you | | | | | used similar to this? | | | | | | | | | | Just printed this off - useful stuff here, thanks. Yes sort | off | | in my | | | | | fumbling way trying to muddle through. There are some extra | steps | | I | | | can | | | | try | | | | | but what is really useful is I can follow through in a logical | | | sequence. | | | | | However, looking at the points between steps 15 & 16 ( I was | | having | | | | another | | | | | go last night whilst waiting for this post), I noticed the | card | | was | | | not | | | | | identified. However, I will go through Netgears' sequence now | | I've | | | got it | | | | & | | | | | see what happens. | | | | | | | | Okay, if you look through some of those other links you'll note | | that | | | has | | | | also occurred to others ... regretfully you are also "being put | | through | | | the | | | | wringer" with your card. | | | | | | | | | | | | | | Just been looking through the other links you suggested... | perhaps | | I | | | | should | | | | | be grateful I've got a Belkin & not a Linksys! General theme | | seems to | | | be | | | | | change the card. Hmmm. Not convinced - yet. | | | | | | | | Well you have to remember that 98 was designed more for phone | | access, | | | and | | | | within a network [business/commercial] which was handled by IT | or | | other | | | | "experts". And these newer adapters are not designed for 98 or | the | | older | | | | NTs. Not that the drivers would be difficult to provide, but | that | | the | | | | manufacturer's programmers rely more upon Microsoft, and of | course, | | the | | | | necessary MS certification. Moreover, the programmers can no | longer | | call | | | | Microsoft to discuss issues that might occur in Microsoft's | | un-supported | | | | OSs, so that leaves them as needing to actually know how to | program. | | | Look at | | | | any of the newer devices and you find these same difficulties. | | | | | | | | | | | | | | Yes, on your other point I did go into Safe Mode to remove the | | | 'device' | | | | | because you're right, previous experience on this ghosting | anomaly | | can | | | be | | | | | quite revealing, all taking up valuable resources. | | | | | | | | Yes, that's always been important. Many later errors and issues | can | | be | | | | back-traced to these ghosts. | | | | | | | | | | | | | | Finally, like I said when playing last night, I did remove all | | network | | | | | protocols, clients et al. I must admit I can't remember if I | | closed | | | down | | | | | before re-installing them or not. Can a card's drivers be | loaded | | | before | | | | the | | | | | Network elements are put in or does the network | clients/protocols | | have | | | to | | | | be | | | | | in place first? | | | | | | | | Okay, make sure you shutdown before resetting the network. | There is | | | | potentially a DUN issue [yeah we scratch our heads on this one, | | dial-up, | | | | huh, why would that effect a network adapter, but it IS part of | the | | | | network]. The card drivers can be added as soon as possible, you | | should | | | have | | | | had the Startup/New hardware found, ask for the drivers upon | | startup, | | | which | | | | then are supposed to install the necessary TCP/IP and other | files. | | | | One thing I have found, is having the CABS for 98 in | | | | {drive}:\Windows\Options\CABS, seems to ease installation of | most | | | devices. | | | | Just copy the Win98 folder and contents from the CD to that | folder. | | | | | | | | One registry entry needs changed though, so installations look | | there | | | rather | | | | than asking for the CDROM: | | | | --------- | | | | REGEDIT4 | | | | | | | | | [HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\Microsoft\Windows\Curr entVersion\Setup] | | | | "SourcePath"="C:\\WINDOWS\\OPTIONS\\CABS\\" | | | | | | | | ----------- | | | | This can be placed into a TEXT editor [including the blank | line], | | saved | | | as | | | | option-source.reg, and merged. Modify that to your actual | windows | | | | directory/folder if necessary. | | | | It works much better if it was done before the update process | as | | any | | | | updated files are/were copied/placed there as well, meaning you | | won't be | | | | installing OLD outdated files from the CDROM. | | | | | | | | On installers generally: | | | | Looking at a number of NEW installers, I note that they | constantly | | check | | | for | | | | "administrator rights" [something necessary for NT] and NT | files, | | and | | | fail | | | | to include the old variables for "if its not present then do" | | [that's | | | not | | | | the actual inclusions just what was done] which the OLD cross | | platform | | | | installers included. | | | | The cross platforms now being addressed are XP and the | necessary | | VISTA | | | | "special" envelope/requirements. | | | | | | | | Let us know how it goes... | | | | | | | | | | | | | | Right! I better speak to the other guys now. Thanks for your | | help | | | MEB. | | | | | | | | | | Cheers, | | | | | | | | | | Sandy. | | | | -- | | | | MEB http://peoplescounsel.orgfree.com | | | | -- | | | | _________ | | | | | | | | | | | | | | "MEB" wrote: | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | Let me put both together: | | | | | | | | | | "Sandy" wrote in message | | | | | news |
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CAN'T INSTALL BELKIN NIC DRIVERS
Hi MEB, good to hear from you... yes, as far as I'm aware, my TCP/IP settings
are right. As far as the BIOS upgrade for the Belkin... I didn't know there was one, I'll check. I haven't gone down the road of pinging or running winipcfg as I thought the adapter had to be working first??? And finally no, I don't use ICS as the other computers belong to my son next door so we have no need to share files etc.! Cheers, Sandy. "MEB" wrote: Sorry, slightly distracted. Did you check for proper TCP/IP settings, or did you not get that far? IF the card is shown, but not working properly AND you did check the TCP/IP and it is correct, did you check for an upgrade {BIOS} for the device? Winipcfg Details {what}? Are you also using ICS in the system {or did you at one time?}? Did you try the ping diagnostics? -- MEB http://peoplescounsel.orgfree.com -- _________ "Sandy" wrote in message ... | Hello MEB, | | I've had some time to examine your webpage, lots of useful stuff on | networking and problems with, but I didn't find much on troubleshooting | adapter installation. But to answer your last questions about the EXACT | error message, this happens on boot-up and/or restart: Windows Networking | window pops up... | "Your network adapter Belkin Wireless 54Mbps Desktop Adapter (0001) is not | working properly. You may need to set it up again. For more information, | see the Network Troubleshooter in Windows Help". | | You also asked what is listed in Control PanelNetworks: | Client for Microsoft Networks | Belkin Wireless 54Mbps Desktop Adapter | Dial-Up Adapter | TCP/IP-Belkin Wireless 54Mbps Desktop Adapter | TCP/IP-Dial-Up Adapter | and... | Primary Network Logon: Windows Logon. | | There's no problems with the modem/router as 3 other remote computers in my | network connect to it OK. Have we come to the end of the road? | | Cheers, Sandy. | | "MEB" wrote: | | Sorry, marked this for response and overlooked it. Don't get lost in the | page and links, it really isn't that difficult. The page is for general | diagnostics and information/links to other materials which might be | informative. | | Post back with success or if more personal help is needed. Good luck. | | -- | MEB http://peoplescounsel.orgfree.com | -- | _________ | | "Sandy" wrote in message | ... | | Hi MEB, | | | | Gosh! You've given me a lot to look at & explore. Give me some time to | | study all this and then I'll come back to you. Thanks. | | | | All the best, | | | | Sandy. | | | | "MEB" wrote: | | | | | | | | "Sandy" wrote in message | | ... | | | Good morning MEB and everybody else! | | | | | | OK some success. After going through the procedures we spoke about | last | | | week over the week-end, yes the NIC is now recognized properly, yes | the | | | drivers finally loaded successfully, but no, Windows says "there is a | | problem | | | with my NIC" on restart go & "run the troubleshooter"! As if I didn't | do | | | that in the first place! | | | | | | I have to say I think that this final message would rather indicate a | | faulty | | | card which may account for all the difficulties. What do you think? | | | | | | Regards, Sandy. | | | | | | | What is the EXACT error message and what is now shown in Control Panel | | | Network. {NIC adapter {Belkin 54g wireless}} | | | | What you're looking for is TCP/IP set for Obtain IP automatically, no | | Gateway, no WINS, and other *INITIALLY*. | | HOWEVER, as this is part of a wireless network, the rest of the network | | must be found. RUN * winipcfg * in the Start RUN box. | | What is the address for your base unit/wireless router? | | | | Here's a general network diagnostic/setup page: | | http://peoplescounsel.orgfree.com/re...NETWORKING.htm | | | | -- | | MEB http://peoplescounsel.orgfree.com | | -- | | _________ | | | | | "MEB" wrote: | | | | | | Okay, please keep us informed. | | | | | | -- | | | MEB http://peoplescounsel.orgfree.com | | | -- | | | _________ | | | | | | "Sandy" wrote in message | | | ... | | | | Gosh... more stuff to think about! Thanks for that MEB. I'll | have a | | go | | | of | | | | your suggestions over the week-end and see what happens. I'll | come | | back | | | to | | | | you next week. See you then. | | | | | | | | Sandy. | | | | | | | | "MEB" wrote: | | | | | | | | | | | | "Sandy" wrote in message | | | | ... | | | | | Morning MEB (it is for me!), | | | | | | | | | | Thanks for your reply... lots of stuff for me to get my head | | round! | | | | | | | | | | The only INF files I removed were the folders listed as Belkin | & | | | Broadcom, | | | | | no others. | | | | | | | | Okay, that was important, we now can focus on other potentials. | | | | | | | | | | | | | | http://kbserver.netgear.com/kb_web_files/N100393.asp - was | the | | | technique | | | | you | | | | | used similar to this? | | | | | | | | | | Just printed this off - useful stuff here, thanks. Yes sort | off | | in my | | | | | fumbling way trying to muddle through. There are some extra | steps | | I | | | can | | | | try | | | | | but what is really useful is I can follow through in a logical | | | sequence. | | | | | However, looking at the points between steps 15 & 16 ( I was | | having | | | | another | | | | | go last night whilst waiting for this post), I noticed the | card | | was | | | not | | | | | identified. However, I will go through Netgears' sequence now | | I've | | | got it | | | | & | | | | | see what happens. | | | | | | | | Okay, if you look through some of those other links you'll note | | that | | | has | | | | also occurred to others ... regretfully you are also "being put | | through | | | the | | | | wringer" with your card. | | | | | | | | | | | | | | Just been looking through the other links you suggested... | perhaps | | I | | | | should | | | | | be grateful I've got a Belkin & not a Linksys! General theme | | seems to | | | be | | | | | change the card. Hmmm. Not convinced - yet. | | | | | | | | Well you have to remember that 98 was designed more for phone | | access, | | | and | | | | within a network [business/commercial] which was handled by IT | or | | other | | | | "experts". And these newer adapters are not designed for 98 or | the | | older | | | | NTs. Not that the drivers would be difficult to provide, but | that | | the | | | | manufacturer's programmers rely more upon Microsoft, and of | course, | | the | | | | necessary MS certification. Moreover, the programmers can no | longer | | call | | | | Microsoft to discuss issues that might occur in Microsoft's | | un-supported | | | | OSs, so that leaves them as needing to actually know how to | program. | | | Look at | | | | any of the newer devices and you find these same difficulties. | | | | | | | | | | | | | | Yes, on your other point I did go into Safe Mode to remove the | | | 'device' | | | | | because you're right, previous experience on this ghosting | anomaly | | can | | | be | | | | | quite revealing, all taking up valuable resources. | | | | | | | | Yes, that's always been important. Many later errors and issues | can | | be | | | | back-traced to these ghosts. | | | | | | | | | | | | | | Finally, like I said when playing last night, I did remove all | | network | | | | | protocols, clients et al. I must admit I can't remember if I | | closed | | | down | | | | | before re-installing them or not. Can a card's drivers be | loaded | | | before | | | | the | | | | | Network elements are put in or does the network | clients/protocols | | have | | | to | | | | be | | | | | in place first? | | | | | | | | Okay, make sure you shutdown before resetting the network. | There is | | | | potentially a DUN issue [yeah we scratch our heads on this one, | | dial-up, | | | | huh, why would that effect a network adapter, but it IS part of | the | | | | network]. The card drivers can be added as soon as possible, you | | should | | | have | | | | had the Startup/New hardware found, ask for the drivers upon |
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CAN'T INSTALL BELKIN NIC DRIVERS
Hi MEB, good to hear from you... yes, as far as I'm aware, my TCP/IP settings
are right. As far as the BIOS upgrade for the Belkin... I didn't know there was one, I'll check. I haven't gone down the road of pinging or running winipcfg as I thought the adapter had to be working first??? And finally no, I don't use ICS as the other computers belong to my son next door so we have no need to share files etc.! Cheers, Sandy. "MEB" wrote: Sorry, slightly distracted. Did you check for proper TCP/IP settings, or did you not get that far? IF the card is shown, but not working properly AND you did check the TCP/IP and it is correct, did you check for an upgrade {BIOS} for the device? Winipcfg Details {what}? Are you also using ICS in the system {or did you at one time?}? Did you try the ping diagnostics? -- MEB http://peoplescounsel.orgfree.com -- _________ "Sandy" wrote in message ... | Hello MEB, | | I've had some time to examine your webpage, lots of useful stuff on | networking and problems with, but I didn't find much on troubleshooting | adapter installation. But to answer your last questions about the EXACT | error message, this happens on boot-up and/or restart: Windows Networking | window pops up... | "Your network adapter Belkin Wireless 54Mbps Desktop Adapter (0001) is not | working properly. You may need to set it up again. For more information, | see the Network Troubleshooter in Windows Help". | | You also asked what is listed in Control PanelNetworks: | Client for Microsoft Networks | Belkin Wireless 54Mbps Desktop Adapter | Dial-Up Adapter | TCP/IP-Belkin Wireless 54Mbps Desktop Adapter | TCP/IP-Dial-Up Adapter | and... | Primary Network Logon: Windows Logon. | | There's no problems with the modem/router as 3 other remote computers in my | network connect to it OK. Have we come to the end of the road? | | Cheers, Sandy. | | "MEB" wrote: | | Sorry, marked this for response and overlooked it. Don't get lost in the | page and links, it really isn't that difficult. The page is for general | diagnostics and information/links to other materials which might be | informative. | | Post back with success or if more personal help is needed. Good luck. | | -- | MEB http://peoplescounsel.orgfree.com | -- | _________ | | "Sandy" wrote in message | ... | | Hi MEB, | | | | Gosh! You've given me a lot to look at & explore. Give me some time to | | study all this and then I'll come back to you. Thanks. | | | | All the best, | | | | Sandy. | | | | "MEB" wrote: | | | | | | | | "Sandy" wrote in message | | ... | | | Good morning MEB and everybody else! | | | | | | OK some success. After going through the procedures we spoke about | last | | | week over the week-end, yes the NIC is now recognized properly, yes | the | | | drivers finally loaded successfully, but no, Windows says "there is a | | problem | | | with my NIC" on restart go & "run the troubleshooter"! As if I didn't | do | | | that in the first place! | | | | | | I have to say I think that this final message would rather indicate a | | faulty | | | card which may account for all the difficulties. What do you think? | | | | | | Regards, Sandy. | | | | | | | What is the EXACT error message and what is now shown in Control Panel | | | Network. {NIC adapter {Belkin 54g wireless}} | | | | What you're looking for is TCP/IP set for Obtain IP automatically, no | | Gateway, no WINS, and other *INITIALLY*. | | HOWEVER, as this is part of a wireless network, the rest of the network | | must be found. RUN * winipcfg * in the Start RUN box. | | What is the address for your base unit/wireless router? | | | | Here's a general network diagnostic/setup page: | | http://peoplescounsel.orgfree.com/re...NETWORKING.htm | | | | -- | | MEB http://peoplescounsel.orgfree.com | | -- | | _________ | | | | | "MEB" wrote: | | | | | | Okay, please keep us informed. | | | | | | -- | | | MEB http://peoplescounsel.orgfree.com | | | -- | | | _________ | | | | | | "Sandy" wrote in message | | | ... | | | | Gosh... more stuff to think about! Thanks for that MEB. I'll | have a | | go | | | of | | | | your suggestions over the week-end and see what happens. I'll | come | | back | | | to | | | | you next week. See you then. | | | | | | | | Sandy. | | | | | | | | "MEB" wrote: | | | | | | | | | | | | "Sandy" wrote in message | | | | ... | | | | | Morning MEB (it is for me!), | | | | | | | | | | Thanks for your reply... lots of stuff for me to get my head | | round! | | | | | | | | | | The only INF files I removed were the folders listed as Belkin | & | | | Broadcom, | | | | | no others. | | | | | | | | Okay, that was important, we now can focus on other potentials. | | | | | | | | | | | | | | http://kbserver.netgear.com/kb_web_files/N100393.asp - was | the | | | technique | | | | you | | | | | used similar to this? | | | | | | | | | | Just printed this off - useful stuff here, thanks. Yes sort | off | | in my | | | | | fumbling way trying to muddle through. There are some extra | steps | | I | | | can | | | | try | | | | | but what is really useful is I can follow through in a logical | | | sequence. | | | | | However, looking at the points between steps 15 & 16 ( I was | | having | | | | another | | | | | go last night whilst waiting for this post), I noticed the | card | | was | | | not | | | | | identified. However, I will go through Netgears' sequence now | | I've | | | got it | | | | & | | | | | see what happens. | | | | | | | | Okay, if you look through some of those other links you'll note | | that | | | has | | | | also occurred to others ... regretfully you are also "being put | | through | | | the | | | | wringer" with your card. | | | | | | | | | | | | | | Just been looking through the other links you suggested... | perhaps | | I | | | | should | | | | | be grateful I've got a Belkin & not a Linksys! General theme | | seems to | | | be | | | | | change the card. Hmmm. Not convinced - yet. | | | | | | | | Well you have to remember that 98 was designed more for phone | | access, | | | and | | | | within a network [business/commercial] which was handled by IT | or | | other | | | | "experts". And these newer adapters are not designed for 98 or | the | | older | | | | NTs. Not that the drivers would be difficult to provide, but | that | | the | | | | manufacturer's programmers rely more upon Microsoft, and of | course, | | the | | | | necessary MS certification. Moreover, the programmers can no | longer | | call | | | | Microsoft to discuss issues that might occur in Microsoft's | | un-supported | | | | OSs, so that leaves them as needing to actually know how to | program. | | | Look at | | | | any of the newer devices and you find these same difficulties. | | | | | | | | | | | | | | Yes, on your other point I did go into Safe Mode to remove the | | | 'device' | | | | | because you're right, previous experience on this ghosting | anomaly | | can | | | be | | | | | quite revealing, all taking up valuable resources. | | | | | | | | Yes, that's always been important. Many later errors and issues | can | | be | | | | back-traced to these ghosts. | | | | | | | | | | | | | | Finally, like I said when playing last night, I did remove all | | network | | | | | protocols, clients et al. I must admit I can't remember if I | | closed | | | down | | | | | before re-installing them or not. Can a card's drivers be | loaded | | | before | | | | the | | | | | Network elements are put in or does the network | clients/protocols | | have | | | to | | | | be | | | | | in place first? | | | | | | | | Okay, make sure you shutdown before resetting the network. | There is | | | | potentially a DUN issue [yeah we scratch our heads on this one, | | dial-up, | | | | huh, why would that effect a network adapter, but it IS part of | the | | | | network]. The card drivers can be added as soon as possible, you | | should | | | have | | | | had the Startup/New hardware found, ask for the drivers upon |
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