891711/MS05-002 "fixed" update: *sigh*

In my laptop the earlier kb891711 update worked fine with 98SE, but
after installing the latest update, Ixeplorer and some other software's
didn't work.

I have now removed kb891711 update and 98SE works fine.

Seems to me that same problem is in other computer with Window Me.

LOL!!!

--
Gary S. Terhune
MS MVP Shell/User
http://www.grystmill.com/articles/cleanboot.htm
http://www.grystmill.com/articles/security.htm

"Brian A." gonefish'n@afarawaylake wrote in message
...
Let's hope for the one:

I don't have a picture of it, but I caught this fish ( extending
arms ) while on
my trip.
Really, wish I had a picture! I caught this fish ( holding arms fully
extended )
No really, I caught this fish ( still holding arms fully extended )
No really, I'm telling the truth. I caught this fish ( yet still
holding arms
fully extended )

This far from the dock! ( arms fully extended )

LOL!!!

--
Gary S. Terhune
MS MVP Shell/User
http://www.grystmill.com/articles/cleanboot.htm
http://www.grystmill.com/articles/security.htm

"Brian A." gonefish'n@afarawaylake wrote in message
...
Let's hope for the one:

I don't have a picture of it, but I caught this fish ( extending
arms ) while on
my trip.
Really, wish I had a picture! I caught this fish ( holding arms fully
extended )
No really, I caught this fish ( still holding arms fully extended )
No really, I'm telling the truth. I caught this fish ( yet still
holding arms
fully extended )

This far from the dock! ( arms fully extended )

Can you be more specific about the problems you had with the new version
of KB891711? Any error messages? If so, can you post the exact details
(even if in your native language?)

Also, if you can spare the time, can you reinstall the update and then
use MSCONFIG to see what other background programs, if any, might be
interacting with KB891711 to cause these problems? This is done by
disabling all background apps *except* KB891711, then restarting to see
if the problems persist. If not, you then re-enable items, testing with
each new addition, until you find the one or more items that are prompt
the problems.

Are you using ZoneAlarm? Or ETrust EZ Firewall (or EZ Armor)?

Any further, detailed information you can provide would be greatly
appreciated.

--
Gary S. Terhune
MS MVP Shell/User
http://www.grystmill.com/articles/cleanboot.htm
http://www.grystmill.com/articles/security.htm

"Jukka Marttinen" wrote in message
...
In my laptop the earlier kb891711 update worked fine with 98SE, but
after installing the latest update, Ixeplorer and some other
software's
didn't work.

I have now removed kb891711 update and 98SE works fine.

Seems to me that same problem is in other computer with Window Me.

Can you be more specific about the problems you had with the new version
of KB891711? Any error messages? If so, can you post the exact details
(even if in your native language?)

Also, if you can spare the time, can you reinstall the update and then
use MSCONFIG to see what other background programs, if any, might be
interacting with KB891711 to cause these problems? This is done by
disabling all background apps *except* KB891711, then restarting to see
if the problems persist. If not, you then re-enable items, testing with
each new addition, until you find the one or more items that are prompt
the problems.

Are you using ZoneAlarm? Or ETrust EZ Firewall (or EZ Armor)?

Any further, detailed information you can provide would be greatly
appreciated.

--
Gary S. Terhune
MS MVP Shell/User
http://www.grystmill.com/articles/cleanboot.htm
http://www.grystmill.com/articles/security.htm

"Jukka Marttinen" wrote in message
...
In my laptop the earlier kb891711 update worked fine with 98SE, but
after installing the latest update, Ixeplorer and some other
software's
didn't work.

I have now removed kb891711 update and 98SE works fine.

Seems to me that same problem is in other computer with Window Me.

Gary S. Terhune wrote:
Can you be more specific about the problems you had with the new version
of KB891711? Any error messages? If so, can you post the exact details
(even if in your native language?)

I let the Windows update reinstall KB891711 and now it seems to work.

Earlier i had problem with Ad-Aware SE software. After scanning my
laptop, i tried to fix the problems with Ad-aware, but i couldn't use
software with mouse. I couldn't even close the software. Seems that
problem was with mouse or display drivers (Silicon Motion Lynx3DM).

With Internet Explorer i had same problem. I couldn't close Iexplorer.

I tried to switch off the computer, but then came message that there is
application, which does not response. There wasn't name for that
application in error message window. I tried to close that application,
but Windows stopped to response. I had to use reset switch to close laptop.

Then I used "add/remove software's" function in Control Panel to remove
the update. After that i removed KB891711 folder in the Windows/system
folder.

After reinstalling the update, it seems to work fine. I have to use my
laptop some time and check, if this same problem comes back.



Also, if you can spare the time, can you reinstall the update and then
use MSCONFIG to see what other background programs, if any, might be
interacting with KB891711 to cause these problems? This is done by
disabling all background apps *except* KB891711, then restarting to see
if the problems persist. If not, you then re-enable items, testing with
each new addition, until you find the one or more items that are prompt
the problems.

Are you using ZoneAlarm? Or ETrust EZ Firewall (or EZ Armor)?

I don't have Zone Alarm. There is some other applications running
background. (Including Norman anti virus software.) I will try to switch
off the other applications, if i still have this problem and check if it
helps.

Any further, detailed information you can provide would be greatly
appreciated.


If i have more information about that, i let you know.

Gary S. Terhune wrote:
Can you be more specific about the problems you had with the new version
of KB891711? Any error messages? If so, can you post the exact details
(even if in your native language?)

I let the Windows update reinstall KB891711 and now it seems to work.

Earlier i had problem with Ad-Aware SE software. After scanning my
laptop, i tried to fix the problems with Ad-aware, but i couldn't use
software with mouse. I couldn't even close the software. Seems that
problem was with mouse or display drivers (Silicon Motion Lynx3DM).

With Internet Explorer i had same problem. I couldn't close Iexplorer.

I tried to switch off the computer, but then came message that there is
application, which does not response. There wasn't name for that
application in error message window. I tried to close that application,
but Windows stopped to response. I had to use reset switch to close laptop.

Then I used "add/remove software's" function in Control Panel to remove
the update. After that i removed KB891711 folder in the Windows/system
folder.

After reinstalling the update, it seems to work fine. I have to use my
laptop some time and check, if this same problem comes back.



Also, if you can spare the time, can you reinstall the update and then
use MSCONFIG to see what other background programs, if any, might be
interacting with KB891711 to cause these problems? This is done by
disabling all background apps *except* KB891711, then restarting to see
if the problems persist. If not, you then re-enable items, testing with
each new addition, until you find the one or more items that are prompt
the problems.

Are you using ZoneAlarm? Or ETrust EZ Firewall (or EZ Armor)?

I don't have Zone Alarm. There is some other applications running
background. (Including Norman anti virus software.) I will try to switch
off the other applications, if i still have this problem and check if it
helps.

Any further, detailed information you can provide would be greatly
appreciated.


If i have more information about that, i let you know.

That's good to hear. Let's hope it was just a one-time, unrelated issue.

--
Gary S. Terhune
MS MVP Shell/User
http://www.grystmill.com/articles/cleanboot.htm
http://www.grystmill.com/articles/security.htm

"Jukka Marttinen" wrote in message
...
Gary S. Terhune wrote:
Can you be more specific about the problems you had with the new
version
of KB891711? Any error messages? If so, can you post the exact
details
(even if in your native language?)

I let the Windows update reinstall KB891711 and now it seems to work.

Earlier i had problem with Ad-Aware SE software. After scanning my
laptop, i tried to fix the problems with Ad-aware, but i couldn't use
software with mouse. I couldn't even close the software. Seems that
problem was with mouse or display drivers (Silicon Motion Lynx3DM).

With Internet Explorer i had same problem. I couldn't close Iexplorer.

I tried to switch off the computer, but then came message that there
is
application, which does not response. There wasn't name for that
application in error message window. I tried to close that
application,
but Windows stopped to response. I had to use reset switch to close
laptop.

Then I used "add/remove software's" function in Control Panel to
remove
the update. After that i removed KB891711 folder in the Windows/system
folder.

After reinstalling the update, it seems to work fine. I have to use my
laptop some time and check, if this same problem comes back.



Also, if you can spare the time, can you reinstall the update and
then
use MSCONFIG to see what other background programs, if any, might be
interacting with KB891711 to cause these problems? This is done by
disabling all background apps *except* KB891711, then restarting to
see
if the problems persist. If not, you then re-enable items, testing
with
each new addition, until you find the one or more items that are
prompt
the problems.

Are you using ZoneAlarm? Or ETrust EZ Firewall (or EZ Armor)?

I don't have Zone Alarm. There is some other applications running
background. (Including Norman anti virus software.) I will try to
switch
off the other applications, if i still have this problem and check if
it
helps.

Any further, detailed information you can provide would be greatly
appreciated.


If i have more information about that, i let you know.

That's good to hear. Let's hope it was just a one-time, unrelated issue.

--
Gary S. Terhune
MS MVP Shell/User
http://www.grystmill.com/articles/cleanboot.htm
http://www.grystmill.com/articles/security.htm

"Jukka Marttinen" wrote in message
...
Gary S. Terhune wrote:
Can you be more specific about the problems you had with the new
version
of KB891711? Any error messages? If so, can you post the exact
details
(even if in your native language?)

I let the Windows update reinstall KB891711 and now it seems to work.

Earlier i had problem with Ad-Aware SE software. After scanning my
laptop, i tried to fix the problems with Ad-aware, but i couldn't use
software with mouse. I couldn't even close the software. Seems that
problem was with mouse or display drivers (Silicon Motion Lynx3DM).

With Internet Explorer i had same problem. I couldn't close Iexplorer.

I tried to switch off the computer, but then came message that there
is
application, which does not response. There wasn't name for that
application in error message window. I tried to close that
application,
but Windows stopped to response. I had to use reset switch to close
laptop.

Then I used "add/remove software's" function in Control Panel to
remove
the update. After that i removed KB891711 folder in the Windows/system
folder.

After reinstalling the update, it seems to work fine. I have to use my
laptop some time and check, if this same problem comes back.



Also, if you can spare the time, can you reinstall the update and
then
use MSCONFIG to see what other background programs, if any, might be
interacting with KB891711 to cause these problems? This is done by
disabling all background apps *except* KB891711, then restarting to
see
if the problems persist. If not, you then re-enable items, testing
with
each new addition, until you find the one or more items that are
prompt
the problems.

Are you using ZoneAlarm? Or ETrust EZ Firewall (or EZ Armor)?

I don't have Zone Alarm. There is some other applications running
background. (Including Norman anti virus software.) I will try to
switch
off the other applications, if i still have this problem and check if
it
helps.

Any further, detailed information you can provide would be greatly
appreciated.


If i have more information about that, i let you know.

Man, that is so sad.

"Gary S. Terhune" wrote:

Considering the fact that GeoDisk uses a few WindowsME files in a
non-supported manner, this can't really be considered a problem with
KB891711, at least not until some genius decompiles the whole thing and
figures out what's going on. Unfortunately, the author (MVP Emeritus
George Geyde) has been AWOL for nigh on a year, now. I seriously suspect
that he's met with an untimely demise and nobody in his "real world"
knew enough to (or how to) pass the news on to us. He was headed to sea,
last I heard, and he and I kept in pretty close touch up until that
time.

--
Gary S. Terhune
MS MVP Shell/User
http://www.grystmill.com/articles/cleanboot.htm
http://www.grystmill.com/articles/security.htm

"bobster" wrote in message
...
The previous release of KB891711 caused a BSOD when I tried to run the
scandisk/defrag program, GEODisk2. The "new improved" version causes
the
same problem. I have tried it both with the old and new versions of
KB891711 checked and unchecked in MSconfig/startup and the BSOD always
occurs when it is checked and never occurs when it is unchecked.
Surprisingly, that was the only problem I had with the original
version of
KB891711 and it still seems to exist with the new version.

This is a minor annoyance as I only scandisk/defrag about once a week
and I
can uncheck KB891711 in MSconfig, reboot and GEODisk2 runs just fine.
I
post this just to point out that the new version doesn't fix all the
problems that the original caused.