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Safe mode defrag
When I defrag my WinMe Dell laptop, I disable virtual memory, restart in
safe mode, then defrag. This should provide a problem free defrag but Defrag keeps restarting ("Disk contents changed..restarting"). Scandefrag doesn't help at all; I leave virtual memory enabled when I try Scandefrag. I have no spyware, trojans o other malware on my machine. I tend to be paranoid about the security of my machines. I have at a number of programs I run regularly to prevent that sort of thing. I get the same problem even if I do not turn off VM. If anybody has any ideas about what could be causing this, I'd be grateful for a reply. Thanks |
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Virtual memory?
I eliminated such activity by shutting off my firewall, antivirus SW, and modem. Previously I had shut off everything except ZoneAlarm and left the internet running and did have the defrag problem. Joe -----Original Message----- When I defrag my WinMe Dell laptop, I disable virtual memory, restart in safe mode, then defrag. This should provide a problem free defrag but Defrag keeps restarting ("Disk contents changed..restarting"). Scandefrag doesn't help at all; I leave virtual memory enabled when I try Scandefrag. I have no spyware, trojans o other malware on my machine. I tend to be paranoid about the security of my machines. I have at a number of programs I run regularly to prevent that sort of thing. I get the same problem even if I do not turn off VM. If anybody has any ideas about what could be causing this, I'd be grateful for a reply. Thanks . |
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"Joe" wrote in
: Virtual memory? I eliminated such activity by shutting off my firewall, antivirus SW, and modem. Previously I had shut off everything except ZoneAlarm and left the internet running and did have the defrag problem. Joe Restarting in safe mode prevents the loading of all non-essential programs. At least its supposed to, so I'm basically doing the same thing you are. The only difference is that by disabling virtual memory I am essentially defragging my swapfile because when it is recreated on restart, it consists of only one fragment. The point is, the way I'm doing it, I should be getting problem free defrags and I'm not. DN |
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DarkN00b wrote:
When I defrag my WinMe Dell laptop, I disable virtual memory, restart in safe mode, then defrag. This should provide a problem free defrag but Defrag keeps restarting ("Disk contents changed..restarting"). Scandefrag doesn't help at all; I leave virtual memory enabled when I try Scandefrag. I have no spyware, trojans o other malware on my machine. I tend to be paranoid about the security of my machines. I have at a number of programs I run regularly to prevent that sort of thing. I get the same problem even if I do not turn off VM. If anybody has any ideas about what could be causing this, I'd be grateful for a reply. Thanks Depending on your ISP, unplugging the 'net might help. Rick |
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DarkN00b
Instead of Safe mode, why don't you try a "Clean Boot" environment. "DarkN00b" wrote in message 48.16... "Joe" wrote in : Virtual memory? I eliminated such activity by shutting off my firewall, antivirus SW, and modem. Previously I had shut off everything except ZoneAlarm and left the internet running and did have the defrag problem. Joe Restarting in safe mode prevents the loading of all non-essential programs. At least its supposed to, so I'm basically doing the same thing you are. The only difference is that by disabling virtual memory I am essentially defragging my swapfile because when it is recreated on restart, it consists of only one fragment. The point is, the way I'm doing it, I should be getting problem free defrags and I'm not. DN |
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Thier is no need to enter safe mode to defrag. The reason
your contents will change during defrag is because you are connected to the internet, even though your explorer is not launched if you have a DSL or cable connection you still get incoming information. You do not need to disable anything within your system, just disconnect your phone line or cable connection during defrag. It has always worked for ME (no pun intended). -----Original Message----- When I defrag my WinMe Dell laptop, I disable virtual memory, restart in safe mode, then defrag. This should provide a problem free defrag but Defrag keeps restarting ("Disk contents changed..restarting"). Scandefrag doesn't help at all; I leave virtual memory enabled when I try Scandefrag. I have no spyware, trojans o other malware on my machine. I tend to be paranoid about the security of my machines. I have at a number of programs I run regularly to prevent that sort of thing. I get the same problem even if I do not turn off VM. If anybody has any ideas about what could be causing this, I'd be grateful for a reply. Thanks . |
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"Bruno" wrote in
: Thier is no need to enter safe mode to defrag. The reason your contents will change during defrag is because you are connected to the internet, even though your explorer is not launched if you have a DSL or cable connection you still get incoming information. You do not need to disable anything within your system, just disconnect your phone line or cable connection during defrag. It has always worked for ME (no pun intended). -----Original Message----- When I defrag my WinMe Dell laptop, I disable virtual memory, restart in safe mode, then defrag. This should provide a problem free defrag but Defrag keeps restarting ("Disk contents changed..restarting"). Scandefrag doesn't help at all; I leave virtual memory enabled when I try Scandefrag. I have no spyware, trojans o other malware on my machine. I tend to be paranoid about the security of my machines. I have at a number of programs I run regularly to prevent that sort of thing. I get the same problem even if I do not turn off VM. If anybody has any ideas about what could be causing this, I'd be grateful for a reply. Thanks . Thanks for the suggestions, but I'm on a dial-up and am never connected to the net when I defrag. If I try to run defrag without going into safe mode, it never even reaches 10%. If I enter safe mode with no virtual memory, I am able to do a defrag with only 5-8 restarts. I also tried disabling everything everything except explorer with msconfig, restarting and defragging. Nope. Didn't work. This is really no major deal but I was just wondering why this would happen. Scandefrag reboots into safe mode before it scans and defrags the hd right? Or am I not getting something here? |
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deal but I was just wondering why this would happen. Scandefrag reboots
into safe mode before it scans and defrags the hd right? Or am I not getting something here? No, it just runs the apps in Normal mode but before the majority of other startup/autorun items run. It suspends the boot process and you can set it to shut down after or continue booting. Highly unlikely not to work, assuming a healthy HD. Shane |
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"DarkN00b" wrote in message 48.16... "Bruno" wrote in : Thier is no need to enter safe mode to defrag. The reason your contents will change during defrag is because you are connected to the internet, even though your explorer is not launched if you have a DSL or cable connection you still get incoming information. You do not need to disable anything within your system, just disconnect your phone line or cable connection during defrag. That isn't always the case, though has been known to be a factor sometimes. However, there are other processes that will write to the disk and interrupt scandisk or defrag. Thanks for the suggestions, but I'm on a dial-up and am never connected to the net when I defrag. If I try to run defrag without going into safe mode, it never even reaches 10%. If I enter safe mode with no virtual memory, I am able to do a defrag with only 5-8 restarts. I also tried disabling everything everything except explorer with msconfig, restarting and defragging. Nope. Didn't work. This is really no major deal but I was just wondering why this would happen. I was cleaning a ME system for someone that refused to run defrag, even in safe mode. In the end it turned out to be an unwanted BHO (BrowserHelperObject) attached to the shell. Scandefrag reboots into safe mode before it scans and defrags the hd right? No, it runs in normal mode. It loads up specific registry "Run" keys with (e.g.) scandskw and defrag using sage (System AGEnt) configured settings. The intent is to be able to run these utils in normal mode, so as to have 32-bit access to the disk (as opposed to Safe-mode's DOS 16-bit compatibility mode), and to also laod the utils before many of the user's "background" programs can load. This doesn't keep all processes from loading though. To kill those, run ScanDefrag in its "Restrictive mode". It will attempt to terminate all uneeded processes beforehand. Check the log afterwards to see what processes it terminated. That might give you a clue as to what process is interfering. |
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