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Nat Router and 'normal' Router ??
Hello ppl..
I wish to bring a router into my house for a few reasons, and I would like to know if there is such a thing as a Normal Router and a Nat Router? Dropped into a computer shop today to price a router and also to ask which suited me in my circumstances. After showing me a couple, I asked if they had the Nat ability and hence provided better protection than a firewall could, to whit he said that as far as he was concerned, All routers were Nat.(and yes, they provided better security than a firewall) Anyone clear this up for me? He also said that Routers Only work via Broadband, no dial-ups... this true as well? I will be using my Win98se computer as primary when networking some others I have here. Ian H |
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Nat Router and 'normal' Router ??
"Ian H" wrote in message ... Hello ppl.. I wish to bring a router into my house for a few reasons, and I would like to know if there is such a thing as a Normal Router and a Nat Router? Dropped into a computer shop today to price a router and also to ask which suited me in my circumstances. After showing me a couple, I asked if they had the Nat ability and hence provided better protection than a firewall could, to whit he said that as far as he was concerned, All routers were Nat.(and yes, they provided better security than a firewall) Anyone clear this up for me? NAT = Network Address Translation Router do provide better protection vis their internal firewall. To see the differences in network components see: http://searchnetworking.techtarget.c...212924,00.html You can click links in the article for other info. He also said that Routers Only work via Broadband, no dial-ups... this true as well? See the link provided, switch link in article. I will be using my Win98se computer as primary when networking some others I have here. -- Brian A. Sesko { MS MVP_Shell/User } Conflicts start where information lacks. http://basconotw.mvps.org/ Suggested posting do's/don'ts: http://www.dts-l.org/goodpost.htm How to ask a question: http://support.microsoft.com/kb/555375 |
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"Ian H" wrote in message ... | Hello ppl.. | | I wish to bring a router into my house for a few reasons, and I would | like to know if there is such a thing as a Normal Router and a Nat Router? http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&d...ition&ct=title http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Network_router | | Dropped into a computer shop today to price a router and also to ask | which suited me in my circumstances. After showing me a couple, I asked | if they had the Nat ability and hence provided better protection than a | firewall could, to whit he said that as far as he was concerned, All | routers were Nat.(and yes, they provided better security than a firewall) | Anyone clear this up for me? They provide A layer of protection. It is NOT recommended to rely on the router alone, but in addition to other layered protection such as a firewall, anti-spyware, anti-virus, encryption, and other methods of security. | | He also said that Routers Only work via Broadband, no dial-ups... this | true as well? You might find some old second hand/junk box ones that support dialup external modem, but the newer support cable, satellite, or DSL modems, or direct cable/fiber connections, or WiFi. | | I will be using my Win98se computer as primary when networking some | others I have here. | | Ian H | | Per your CISCO question over in networking: the CISCO network will provide addition protections within your home system. CISCO was/is a defacto standard related to security, and for potential setup issues. Good luck with your studies. -- MEB http://peoplescounsel.orgfree.com/ BLOG - http://peoplescounsel.spaces.live.com/ Public Notice or the "real world" http://groups.google.com/group/the-peoples-law?hl=en - discussion group for general aspects of Law verses the Peoples' of the world "Most people, sometime in their lives, stumble across truth. Most jump up, brush themselves off, and hurry on about their business as if nothing had happen." Winston Churchill Or to put it another way: Morpheus can offer you the two pills; but only you can choose whether you take the red pill or the blue one. _______________ |
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Per your CISCO question over in networking: the CISCO network will provide addition protections within your home system. CISCO was/is a defacto standard related to security, and for potential setup issues. Good luck with your studies. Thanks Brian/Meb..... glad you picked up on my Q in 'networking', was beginning to think it was an alias for Morgue over there. Yeah, I guess I will be asking for help now and then, I am doing the course solo and I am smart enough to know it will be intense unless I feel 'comfy' with all the acronyms & etc.(nearly memorised the OSI module) (I am also doing the A+ course at the same time.)(did a mock-test the first day two days ago, I scored 82.5%, Dux out of 20 ppl.)(NGs played a large part in my knowledge, lurking, plus of course 'searching'.) Brian,,, I have been accumalating sites relating to Networking, thanks for your link. Any tips/hints appreciated from ppl who have been there. At the moment, I see Fully understanding the OSI as being the key...... am I on the right track? (or should I try and focus on understanding IP addresses?)(keeping in mind of course that I have only attended one class so far.) Lastly, would it be more prudent to purchase a few Nic cards and cables as opposed to purchasing a Router for the sake of the course? I have about $80 at my fingertips at the moment, and where I am, a router will cost about $100....... or,, I could buy a few nic cards and cables of which would cost about the same. I have 'this' machine that I am using which is Win98se.. I want it to be the crux of everything. I have 3 other machines that I want to network to this one. The others have 'XP' on one, Win2000 on another, and Win98se again on yet another. Any pointers greatly appreciated on how I should spend my $80 bucks. (plus another 20 I will chip in if needed........ au$$'s.) Ian H |
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Pick up my collection over on networking if your interested, and though we
hate to lose you: microsoft.public.windowsxp.network_web seems to have a large number of knowledgeable users and MVPs. -- MEB http://peoplescounsel.orgfree.com/ BLOG - http://peoplescounsel.spaces.live.com/ Public Notice or the "real world" http://groups.google.com/group/the-peoples-law?hl=en - discussion group for general aspects of Law verses the Peoples' of the world "Most people, sometime in their lives, stumble across truth. Most jump up, brush themselves off, and hurry on about their business as if nothing had happen." Winston Churchill Or to put it another way: Morpheus can offer you the two pills; but only you can choose whether you take the red pill or the blue one. _______________ "Ian H" wrote in message ... | | Per your CISCO question over in networking: the CISCO network will provide | addition protections within your home system. CISCO was/is a defacto | standard related to security, and for potential setup issues. Good luck | with | your studies. | | Thanks Brian/Meb..... glad you picked up on my Q in 'networking', was | beginning to think it was an alias for Morgue over there. | Yeah, I guess I will be asking for help now and then, I am doing the | course solo and I am smart enough to know it will be intense unless I | feel 'comfy' with all the acronyms & etc.(nearly memorised the OSI module) | (I am also doing the A+ course at the same time.)(did a mock-test the first | day two days ago, I scored 82.5%, Dux out of 20 ppl.)(NGs played a | large part in my knowledge, lurking, plus of course 'searching'.) | | Brian,,, I have been accumalating sites relating to Networking, thanks | for your link. | | Any tips/hints appreciated from ppl who have been there. At the moment, I | see Fully understanding the OSI as being the key...... am I on the right | track? (or should I try and focus on understanding IP addresses?)(keeping | in mind of course that I have only attended one class so far.) | | Lastly, would it be more prudent to purchase a few Nic cards and cables as | opposed to purchasing a Router for the sake of the course? | I have about $80 at my fingertips at the moment, and where I am, a router | will cost about $100....... or,, I could buy a few nic cards and cables | of | which would cost about the same. | I have 'this' machine that I am using which is Win98se.. I want it to be | the | crux of everything. I have 3 other machines that I want to network to this | one. | The others have 'XP' on one, Win2000 on another, and Win98se again on | yet another. | Any pointers greatly appreciated on how I should spend my $80 bucks. | (plus another 20 I will chip in if needed........ au$$'s.) | | Ian H | | |
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Nat Router and 'normal' Router ??
"Ian H" wrote:
Hello ppl.. I wish to bring a router into my house for a few reasons, and I would like to know if there is such a thing as a Normal Router and a Nat Router? Dropped into a computer shop today to price a router and also to ask which suited me in my circumstances. After showing me a couple, I asked if they had the Nat ability and hence provided better protection than a firewall could, to whit he said that as far as he was concerned, All routers were Nat.(and yes, they provided better security than a firewall) Anyone clear this up for me? Certainly all home routers do NAT (Network Address Translation). That's how they manage to give the many machines on your home network access to the Internet when your ISP has given you only one real IP address. He also said that Routers Only work via Broadband, no dial-ups... this true as well? At the very least, sharing a dialup line among several computers would make access from each computer horribly slow. That being the case, I very much doubt you'll find any such product. -- Tim Slattery MS MVP(DTS) http://members.cox.net/slatteryt |
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Nat Router and 'normal' Router ??
If you're on dial-up and you want a router or hardware firewall for
security purposes look for one that does "Stateful Packet Inspection". Without that for dial-up only there is not much sense spending money on these devices. John Ian H wrote: Hello ppl.. I wish to bring a router into my house for a few reasons, and I would like to know if there is such a thing as a Normal Router and a Nat Router? Dropped into a computer shop today to price a router and also to ask which suited me in my circumstances. After showing me a couple, I asked if they had the Nat ability and hence provided better protection than a firewall could, to whit he said that as far as he was concerned, All routers were Nat.(and yes, they provided better security than a firewall) Anyone clear this up for me? He also said that Routers Only work via Broadband, no dial-ups... this true as well? I will be using my Win98se computer as primary when networking some others I have here. Ian H |
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John John wrote:
If you're on dial-up and you want a router or hardware firewall for security purposes look for one that ... You want to post a link to such a device? A hardware NAT/Firewall for dialup? "Stateful Packet Inspection". You want to post a link to any NAT-router (ethernet or otherwise) that does packet inspection and costs less than $500? Does Best Buy, Circuit City, CompUSA, etc, sell them? |
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98 Guy wrote: John John wrote: If you're on dial-up and you want a router or hardware firewall for security purposes look for one that ... You want to post a link to such a device? A hardware NAT/Firewall for dialup? "Stateful Packet Inspection". You want to post a link to any NAT-router (ethernet or otherwise) that does packet inspection and costs less than $500? Does Best Buy, Circuit City, CompUSA, etc, sell them? I never said that such a thing would be easy to find or cheap. Symantec and HotBrick used to make them but I'm not sure if they still do. For ethernet use you can look for VPN firewalls, I'm quite sure Linksys amongst others sells such products. John |
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In article , 98 Guy wrote: John John wrote: If you're on dial-up and you want a router or hardware firewall for security purposes look for one that ... You want to post a link to such a device? A hardware NAT/Firewall for dialup? "Stateful Packet Inspection". You want to post a link to any NAT-router (ethernet or otherwise) that does packet inspection and costs less than $500? Does Best Buy, Circuit City, CompUSA, etc, sell them? A $60 Linksys WRT54G with DD-WRT third-party firmware has rudimentary SPI functions. |
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