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Old April 16th 05, 07:25 PM
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Hi all,

(Running OS in RAM is below this Trick for those that have enough RAM to
do it, but if not, there another way to Speed it up by adding a small HD
that I hope will be of help those with small RAMs.)

* OS on a small HD all by itself. *

I you crash a lot and have to format you HD often, try this.

Get a small HD like 4 Gig and set it up as you C:\ Drive and only
install Windows on it, and nothing else.
Install all your other Programs including IE and OE on other Drives (D:,
E, F ect).

Export a copy of your Registry to Disk or one of the other HD's.
Do the same with IE favorites under C:\Windows\Favorates (including all
sub folders) and your NS Bookmarks.

Now if you crash you only have to reinstall your OS and nothing else.
Just import your old Registry, Favorites and Bookmarks.

Saves a lot of work reinstalling of all your other programs and not
having to set them up the way you like them from scratch again or lose Data.

***

* Run OS in RAM Speed Trick *

If you have Gigs of Ram try this.
Programs run in RAM run 1000 times faster than off a HD or CD !!!
How about running your OS there !

The way to do this is with a Ram Drive but the one that comes with
Windows is too small but others make bigger Ram Drives that are not
expensive.

Ram Drive is software to trick your Computer into thinking part of it's
RAM Memory is a Hard Disk Drive.
You must have enough RAM left over to run programs outside the RAM Drive
so you might want to upgrade your RAM Memory.

Once you have a Ram Drive, install Windows on Drive C as normal.
But put IE and OE on another HD.

Then use a Program like Norton's Ghost to Copy your OS to another HD and
Burn it (Windows OS) to CD.
Use your Autoexec.bat and or Config.sys Files load the RAM Drive on
Bootup and Load the OS from the CD to the RAM Drive and Execute Win.exe
on that RAM Drive to run Windows.

Then do your Windows Update and use that Norton Ghost or other program
to Copy the RAM Drive to HD and or Burn that to CD.
You can use you Autoexec or Config to run the Saved OS on the (D:, E,
ect...) HD for those Updates that must be installed alone and rebooted
after.
Install all your Programs then save the OS in RAM Drive to CD and your
on your way.

You'll also have to do this every time you install/uninstall a Program
but you'll also always have a clean OS on Boot even if infected with a
Trojan or Virus.

And the Speed Boost of OS running in RAM has a 4 GHZ Computer run like a
50 GHZ Computer.
Are you a Gammer, do a lot of Multitasking or Audio/Video ?
Then this could be an option for you.

Before shutting down if you want to keep the Reg settings that changed
after the OS is installed you just copy your Registry again and import
it back to Windows in the RAM Drive if you don't want to Burn it to CD.
If you install a new Program you'll want to do this so you can Burn a
new OS CD with the new Registry or just import it when you want to use
that program.

When you reboot you install a Fresh OS each time making it very hard for
a Virus or Trojan to take hold.
You can still get infected by user error but it's much easier to clean
when you cut it out of the OS.

Always use a Firewall and if on a Broad Band Connection get behind a NAT
Router even if you have only one Computer.
It's better than a Software Firewall but I'd still use one with the NAT
anyway.

Hope this is of interest to you.
Good luck.

!:?)
Kevin
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Old April 16th 05, 09:46 PM
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Tip #1 is so full of holes that you could drive a truck through it. Simply
backing up the Registry and your Favorites doesn't do anything about
programs or data - if someone follows your advice they will wind up with all
their documents missing and probably a trashed system since the Registry
will contain multiple references to programs that no longer exist.

Tip #2 is similarly flawed ... We refer to this one as the "I didn't have
enough room for an emergency gas tank so I mounted it inside my existing gas
tank. Aren't I smart?"

Combined, these two tips are a recipe for disaster and should be shunned by
all.

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* In fond memory ... Alex, you shall be sorely missed
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Hi all,


snipped as I can't bear to read it again


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Old April 17th 05, 01:34 AM
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Richard G. Harper wrote:
Tip #1 is so full of holes that you could drive a truck through it.
Simply backing up the Registry and your Favorites doesn't do anything
about programs or data - if someone follows your advice they will
wind up with all their documents missing and probably a trashed
system since the Registry will contain multiple references to
programs that no longer exist.


Ummm...he *did* say to install programs on a drive other than C: and
reserved C: solely for the OS. Presumably, that means no personal docs
on C:

One thing he doesn't cover is stuff added to the Windows directory by
the apps installed on another drive. Same for new hardware.

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Old April 17th 05, 03:39 AM
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In ,
!:?) had this to say:

My reply is at the bottom of your sent message:

Hi all,

snip

If you're going to go through all of that why not just use something to
clone your drive to the other drive entirely and then no matter what you are
back up and running at the last cloned time in about five minutes? It's not
going to help you speed up your PC at all but it will save you time from
re-installing.

Galen
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Signature changed for a moment of silence.
Rest well Alex and we'll see you on the other side.


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Old April 17th 05, 04:49 AM
Brian A.
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"dadiOH" wrote in message
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Richard G. Harper wrote:
Tip #1 is so full of holes that you could drive a truck through it.
Simply backing up the Registry and your Favorites doesn't do anything
about programs or data - if someone follows your advice they will
wind up with all their documents missing and probably a trashed
system since the Registry will contain multiple references to
programs that no longer exist.


Ummm...he *did* say to install programs on a drive other than C: and
reserved C: solely for the OS. Presumably, that means no personal docs
on C:


No matter, it's a total craps shoot on the way to an assured DLL HELL. Unless
the user backs up the registry approx. every 5 min. due to the many constant
changes incurred by apps, especially those that use a timestamp, perhaps the
user may only succumb to half DLL HELL. The best path to take IMO is the
suggestion from Galen.


One thing he doesn't cover is stuff added to the Windows directory by
the apps installed on another drive. Same for new hardware.


One more reason not to throw the dice!


--

Brian A. Sesko
MS MVPShell/User
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Old April 17th 05, 01:45 PM
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"Galen" wrote in message
...
In ,
!:?) had this to say:

My reply is at the bottom of your sent message:

Hi all,

snip

If you're going to go through all of that why not just use something to
clone your drive to the other drive entirely and then no matter what you

are
back up and running at the last cloned time in about five minutes? It's

not
going to help you speed up your PC at all but it will save you time from
re-installing.

Galen
--
Signature changed for a moment of silence.
Rest well Alex and we'll see you on the other side.



Clones take a lot of time to do. Do an image backup. Backup and
restoration time with partition imaging software is much faster than
cloning/copying.


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Old April 18th 05, 02:09 PM
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In ,
Lil' Dave had this to say:

My reply is at the bottom of your sent message:

Clones take a lot of time to do. Do an image backup. Backup and
restoration time with partition imaging software is much faster than
cloning/copying.


My current system clones (and reverses) an 80 GB drive to an 80 GB drive in
under 10 minutes using Norton Ghost 2k3. (No, the drive isn't completely
full by the way, not even close.) Usually I use partitions but on this
system it's just whole drive cloning. The reason I mention cloning the
entire drive is because an OP can do so for free using this:

clone maxx :
http://www.pcinspector.de/clone-maxx/uk/welcome.htm

I've given that a test run on a couple of systems here and it's actually
fairly nice but does NOT support partition to partition cloning - it only
clones the entire disk I'm afraid.

Galen
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Signature changed for a moment of silence.
Rest well Alex and we'll see you on the other side.


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Old April 18th 05, 08:07 PM
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Richard G. Harper wrote:
Tip #1 is so full of holes that you could drive a truck through it.


Really, they why not explain how, or you don't know and are just Trolling ?

Simply
backing up the Registry and your Favorites doesn't do anything about
programs or data


WRONG !

You don't know what the Registry is or what it does do you ?
Please think before inserting Foot in Mouth !

Tell me how the OS knows the Path to your Installed Programs and Data !
Lets see,... could it be the REGISTRY ?

The Registry tells the OS WHERE all the Programs are Installed no matter
what HD they are on !
And you say it doesn't do anything about Programs or Data. LOL !!!
They don't have to be on the C:\ drive !

The Favorates are all the sites you visit in IE that would be wiped
because they are on C:\Windows\Favorites.
So if you want to keep em, save em including the Subfolders and Copy
them back to Windows\Favorites.

Combine that with a Defragger like Norton's Speed Disk where you can
tell it to see the OS and it's All it's Drivers Files and Folders First
before anything else and you'll boost it even more with fewer Crashes
and slow downs.

- if someone follows your advice they will wind up with all
their documents missing and probably a trashed system since the Registry
will contain multiple references to programs that no longer exist.



Wrong !!!!

Without a Registry you would be right but when you save and Import your
Registry it will know exactly were all your Programs are and they DO EXIST.

I've done that for 15 years on 3 of my own Computers as well as several
Friends and NEVER lost a Program or Data !
And you have fewer Crashes and almost never have to reformat.
Been over 10 years on one Computer !

You install the OS on the Small HD on C:\ and all your other Programs on
D:\, including IE and OE.
Your Registry now points to those Programs that is now STORED on the
other Drives.

Save your Registry and Favorites at this point and wipe (Format) Drive C:\.
C:\ is wiped Clean and all your Programs are Installed on D:\, so at
this point you have installed Programs with NO OS !!!

Import the Registry and copy your Favorites (including Subfolders) and
your back where you started before the Wipe !
Your Registry will still point to your Programs and Data on the other
Drives !
DUH !!! LOL !!!


Tip #2 is similarly flawed ... We refer to this one as the "I didn't have
enough room for an emergency gas tank so I mounted it inside my existing gas
tank. Aren't I smart?"


Ahh, You can't prove it don't work so attack it without proof LOL !!!
Gammers have been doing that long before Windows so I don't know where
you've been.
We used to load Dos into RAM Drives on Bootup to Speed up the OS and all
the Programs that benifit from that Speed Bost.

Combined, these two tips are a recipe for disaster and should be shunned by
all.


Details, where are your Details ?
You show you haven't a clue when you said the Registry has nothing to do
with Programs !


!:?)
Kevin
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Old April 18th 05, 08:12 PM
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Galen wrote:

In ,
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My reply is at the bottom of your sent message:


Hi all,


snip

If you're going to go through all of that why not just use something to
clone your drive to the other drive entirely and then no matter what you are
back up and running at the last cloned time in about five minutes? It's not
going to help you speed up your PC at all but it will save you time from
re-installing.

Galen


But then you'd still have programs installed on C: with the OS.
Your not getting your Speed Boost then.
And a small C:\ Drive is easier to matain.

!:?)
kevin
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Old April 18th 05, 08:17 PM
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dadiOH wrote:

Richard G. Harper wrote:

Tip #1 is so full of holes that you could drive a truck through it.
Simply backing up the Registry and your Favorites doesn't do anything
about programs or data - if someone follows your advice they will
wind up with all their documents missing and probably a trashed
system since the Registry will contain multiple references to
programs that no longer exist.



Ummm...he *did* say to install programs on a drive other than C: and
reserved C: solely for the OS. Presumably, that means no personal docs
on C:

One thing he doesn't cover is stuff added to the Windows directory by
the apps installed on another drive. Same for new hardware.


Hmmm... Interesting point.
I had thought about Program Files\Common Files but it seems to work fine
without having to back that up.
As for New Hardware, I'm not sure what you mean by new.
If after the Registry is saved then yes but if before then no.

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...a help file of info about MP3s, recording from
LP/cassette and tips & tricks on this and that.
Get it at http://mysite.verizon.net/xico



Glad to get an intelligent Post after that Troll Richard.

!:?)
Kevin
 




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