In 98SE should I allow DOS -- Access (???)

In the advanced MS-DOS settings I am allowed to let MS-DOS have Direct Access
to Windows. What are the advantages and disadvantages to giving MS-DOS this
capability. It is the fourth option in the advanced configuration settings.
The other three are already checked. Thanks in advance for your help.

Do you mean direct disk access?

"WARNING: Although some MS-DOS-based programs require direct disk access,
most do not. Use this option with caution. Using this option can allow an
MS-DOS-based program to destroy long filename support in Windows. "

http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=134400
General Tips for Using MS-DOS Mode
--
Jeff Richards
MS MVP (Windows - Shell/User)
"Dan" wrote in message
...
In the advanced MS-DOS settings I am allowed to let MS-DOS have Direct
Access
to Windows. What are the advantages and disadvantages to giving MS-DOS
this
capability. It is the fourth option in the advanced configuration
settings.
The other three are already checked. Thanks in advance for your help.

It's blurb says: "Specifies whether this MS-DOS-based program will be
able to detect the presence of Windows. Some MS-DOS-based programs will
not run or will lose functionality if they detect Windows.
If you want to hide Windows from this MS-DOS-based program, make sure
this check box is selected. If you are not sure, or you want to run
Windows-based programs from this MS-DOS-based program, click to clear
this check box.".

Mine are all UNchecked, clear, just as they were on the day they were
born.


--
Thanks or Good Luck,
There may be humor in this post, and,
Naturally, you will not sue,
should things get worse after this,
PCR

"Dan" wrote in message
...
| In the advanced MS-DOS settings I am allowed to let MS-DOS have Direct
Access
| to Windows. What are the advantages and disadvantages to giving
MS-DOS this
| capability. It is the fourth option in the advanced configuration
settings.
| The other three are already checked. Thanks in advance for your help.
|
|

Thanks Richard. That is what I meant. I will read the article. I knew not
to check that box. I have the other 3 boxes checked and warning flags went
up after I read that notice. Do any of the other three boxes cause problems
with Windows?

"Jeff Richards" wrote in message
...
: Do you mean direct disk access?
:
: "WARNING: Although some MS-DOS-based programs require direct disk access,
: most do not. Use this option with caution. Using this option can allow an
: MS-DOS-based program to destroy long filename support in Windows. "
:
: http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=134400
: General Tips for Using MS-DOS Mode
: --
: Jeff Richards
: MS MVP (Windows - Shell/User)
: "Dan" wrote in message
: ...
: In the advanced MS-DOS settings I am allowed to let MS-DOS have Direct
: Access
: to Windows. What are the advantages and disadvantages to giving MS-DOS
: this
: capability. It is the fourth option in the advanced configuration
: settings.
: The other three are already checked. Thanks in advance for your help.
:
:
:
:

Thanks for your input, PCR. I have checked the first three boxes to allow
more compatibility with my DOS programs. Thanks for your input, anyway.

"PCR" wrote in message
...
: It's blurb says: "Specifies whether this MS-DOS-based program will be
: able to detect the presence of Windows. Some MS-DOS-based programs will
: not run or will lose functionality if they detect Windows.
: If you want to hide Windows from this MS-DOS-based program, make sure
: this check box is selected. If you are not sure, or you want to run
: Windows-based programs from this MS-DOS-based program, click to clear
: this check box.".
:
: Mine are all UNchecked, clear, just as they were on the day they were
: born.
:
:
: --
: Thanks or Good Luck,
: There may be humor in this post, and,
: Naturally, you will not sue,
: should things get worse after this,
: PCR
:
: "Dan" wrote in message
: ...
: | In the advanced MS-DOS settings I am allowed to let MS-DOS have Direct
: Access
: | to Windows. What are the advantages and disadvantages to giving
: MS-DOS this
: | capability. It is the fourth option in the advanced configuration
: settings.
: | The other three are already checked. Thanks in advance for your help.
: |
: |
:
:

Very well, but be careful with it. (I have grabbed that Richards URL
into my famous "Various DOS" Master Post...

http://support.microsoft.com/default...b;EN-US;151717
Can't EXIT MS-DOS Mode
http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=130448
Can't QUIT MS-DOS Mode
http://support.microsoft.com/default...;EN-US;q138996
Description of Restarting Computer in MS-DOS Mode
http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=134400
General Tips for Using MS-DOS Mode

"Windows 98 Secrets" (Livingston/Straub), pgs 1068,1099, explains:

1. Direct Boot to DOS (Cold booted DOS)

a. Accessed through Boot Menu item, "Command Prompt Only".
b. Windows is not started.
c. Config.sys & Autoexec.bat are run, if present.
d. Ctrl-Alt-Del boots Windows. "WIN" loads Windows.

2. "Quit" to DOS (Re-started MS-DOS mode)

a. Accessed from "START, Shut Down, Re-start in MS-DOS mode", unless
"exit to DOS" pif was converted to "Warm Boot".
b. Accessed from any .pif that ISN'T a "Warm Boot" pif, as described
below.
c. Is NOT a warm boot; Config.sys & Autoexec.bat are NOT re-run, but are
honored to the extent Windows has not mussed the environment they set.
d. Dosstart.bat is run, if present.
e. "EXIT" reloads Windows (from 4K stub), also without a boot.
Ctrl-Alt-Del boots Windows.

3. Warm Booted MS-DOS mode ("Re-boot" to DOS)

a. Accessed from a "Warm Boot" .pif that IS BOTH checked "MS-DOS mode"
AND bolted "Specify a new MS-DOS configuration", in it's Properties,
Program tab, Advanced button.
b. Accessed from START button, if you've altered "exit to dos", as
described.
c. Does a warm boot, using Config.sys and Autoexec.bat as configured in
the pif. (The system files are renamed *.wos & the pif files are
extracted for the session.)
d. Dosstart.bat is NOT run.
e. "EXIT" restores the system Config.sys & Autoexec.bat & warm boots to
Windows. (Ctrl-Alt-Del & "WIN" should NOT be used.)

If you don't want to modify the "exit to dos" pif so that it does a warm
boot, then create a pif this way:

1. "START, Find, Command.com". (Probably in C:\ & C:\Windows).
2. "R-Clk either, Send to, Desktop (create shortcut)". It will be named
"MS-DOS Prompt".
3. R-Clk "MS-DOS Prompt" on the Desktop, & select Properties.
4. Click the Program tab & then the Advanced button.
5. Mark the MS-DOS Mode check box. Mark "Warn before entering..." as
desired.
6. For a "Warm Boot to DOS" pif, mark the "Specify a New MS-DOS
Configuration" button. If you do not do that, you will have a "Quit to
DOS" pif.
7. OK you're way out.

When you click that pif, you will either "warm boot" or "quit to DOS",
depending on what you did in step 6. If it's a warm boot, then the
Config.sys & Autoexec.bat inside the pif are the ones that will be in
effect in your DOS session. Alter them inside the pif as desired, before
clicking it.

Cquirke's WARNING: Because of system/.pif file switching, give a Warm
Boot .pif a chance to execute after clicking. If you click it a second
time before getting to DOS, you may lose your system Config.sys &
Autoexec.bat files.

http://cquirke.mvps.org/9x/doscompat.htm
There are even more DOS mentioned there.

"Select MS-DOS mode on this page", said Leboeuf.
http://www.colba.net/~hlebo49/winmode.htm


--
Thanks or Good Luck,
There may be humor in this post, and,
Naturally, you will not sue,
should things get worse after this,
PCR

"Dan" wrote in message
...
| Thanks for your input, PCR. I have checked the first three boxes to
allow
| more compatibility with my DOS programs. Thanks for your input,
anyway.
|
| "PCR" wrote in message
| ...
| : It's blurb says: "Specifies whether this MS-DOS-based program will
be
| : able to detect the presence of Windows. Some MS-DOS-based programs
will
| : not run or will lose functionality if they detect Windows.
| : If you want to hide Windows from this MS-DOS-based program, make
sure
| : this check box is selected. If you are not sure, or you want to run
| : Windows-based programs from this MS-DOS-based program, click to
clear
| : this check box.".
| :
| : Mine are all UNchecked, clear, just as they were on the day they
were
| : born.
| :
| :
| : --
| : Thanks or Good Luck,
| : There may be humor in this post, and,
| : Naturally, you will not sue,
| : should things get worse after this,
| : PCR
| :
| : "Dan" wrote in message
| : ...
| : | In the advanced MS-DOS settings I am allowed to let MS-DOS have
Direct
| : Access
| : | to Windows. What are the advantages and disadvantages to giving
| : MS-DOS this
| : | capability. It is the fourth option in the advanced configuration
| : settings.
| : | The other three are already checked. Thanks in advance for your
help.
| : |
| : |
| :
| :
|
|

Thanks I will review the web-links at my leisure. Have a great night, PCR.

"PCR" wrote in message
...
: Very well, but be careful with it. (I have grabbed that Richards URL
: into my famous "Various DOS" Master Post...
:
: http://support.microsoft.com/default...b;EN-US;151717
: Can't EXIT MS-DOS Mode
: http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=130448
: Can't QUIT MS-DOS Mode
: http://support.microsoft.com/default...;EN-US;q138996
: Description of Restarting Computer in MS-DOS Mode
: http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=134400
: General Tips for Using MS-DOS Mode
:
: "Windows 98 Secrets" (Livingston/Straub), pgs 1068,1099, explains:
:
: 1. Direct Boot to DOS (Cold booted DOS)
:
: a. Accessed through Boot Menu item, "Command Prompt Only".
: b. Windows is not started.
: c. Config.sys & Autoexec.bat are run, if present.
: d. Ctrl-Alt-Del boots Windows. "WIN" loads Windows.
:
: 2. "Quit" to DOS (Re-started MS-DOS mode)
:
: a. Accessed from "START, Shut Down, Re-start in MS-DOS mode", unless
: "exit to DOS" pif was converted to "Warm Boot".
: b. Accessed from any .pif that ISN'T a "Warm Boot" pif, as described
: below.
: c. Is NOT a warm boot; Config.sys & Autoexec.bat are NOT re-run, but are
: honored to the extent Windows has not mussed the environment they set.
: d. Dosstart.bat is run, if present.
: e. "EXIT" reloads Windows (from 4K stub), also without a boot.
: Ctrl-Alt-Del boots Windows.
:
: 3. Warm Booted MS-DOS mode ("Re-boot" to DOS)
:
: a. Accessed from a "Warm Boot" .pif that IS BOTH checked "MS-DOS mode"
: AND bolted "Specify a new MS-DOS configuration", in it's Properties,
: Program tab, Advanced button.
: b. Accessed from START button, if you've altered "exit to dos", as
: described.
: c. Does a warm boot, using Config.sys and Autoexec.bat as configured in
: the pif. (The system files are renamed *.wos & the pif files are
: extracted for the session.)
: d. Dosstart.bat is NOT run.
: e. "EXIT" restores the system Config.sys & Autoexec.bat & warm boots to
: Windows. (Ctrl-Alt-Del & "WIN" should NOT be used.)
:
: If you don't want to modify the "exit to dos" pif so that it does a warm
: boot, then create a pif this way:
:
: 1. "START, Find, Command.com". (Probably in C:\ & C:\Windows).
: 2. "R-Clk either, Send to, Desktop (create shortcut)". It will be named
: "MS-DOS Prompt".
: 3. R-Clk "MS-DOS Prompt" on the Desktop, & select Properties.
: 4. Click the Program tab & then the Advanced button.
: 5. Mark the MS-DOS Mode check box. Mark "Warn before entering..." as
: desired.
: 6. For a "Warm Boot to DOS" pif, mark the "Specify a New MS-DOS
: Configuration" button. If you do not do that, you will have a "Quit to
: DOS" pif.
: 7. OK you're way out.
:
: When you click that pif, you will either "warm boot" or "quit to DOS",
: depending on what you did in step 6. If it's a warm boot, then the
: Config.sys & Autoexec.bat inside the pif are the ones that will be in
: effect in your DOS session. Alter them inside the pif as desired, before
: clicking it.
:
: Cquirke's WARNING: Because of system/.pif file switching, give a Warm
: Boot .pif a chance to execute after clicking. If you click it a second
: time before getting to DOS, you may lose your system Config.sys &
: Autoexec.bat files.
:
: http://cquirke.mvps.org/9x/doscompat.htm
: There are even more DOS mentioned there.
:
: "Select MS-DOS mode on this page", said Leboeuf.
: http://www.colba.net/~hlebo49/winmode.htm
:
:
: --
: Thanks or Good Luck,
: There may be humor in this post, and,
: Naturally, you will not sue,
: should things get worse after this,
: PCR
:
: "Dan" wrote in message
: ...
: | Thanks for your input, PCR. I have checked the first three boxes to
: allow
: | more compatibility with my DOS programs. Thanks for your input,
: anyway.
: |
: | "PCR" wrote in message
: | ...
: | : It's blurb says: "Specifies whether this MS-DOS-based program will
: be
: | : able to detect the presence of Windows. Some MS-DOS-based programs
: will
: | : not run or will lose functionality if they detect Windows.
: | : If you want to hide Windows from this MS-DOS-based program, make
: sure
: | : this check box is selected. If you are not sure, or you want to run
: | : Windows-based programs from this MS-DOS-based program, click to
: clear
: | : this check box.".
: | :
: | : Mine are all UNchecked, clear, just as they were on the day they
: were
: | : born.
: | :
: | :
: | : --
: | : Thanks or Good Luck,
: | : There may be humor in this post, and,
: | : Naturally, you will not sue,
: | : should things get worse after this,
: | : PCR
: | :
: | : "Dan" wrote in message
: | : ...
: | : | In the advanced MS-DOS settings I am allowed to let MS-DOS have
: Direct
: | : Access
: | : | to Windows. What are the advantages and disadvantages to giving
: | : MS-DOS this
: | : | capability. It is the fourth option in the advanced configuration
: | : settings.
: | : | The other three are already checked. Thanks in advance for your
: help.
: | : |
: | : |
: | :
: | :
: |
: |
:
:

OK, then.

--
Thanks or Good Luck,
There may be humor in this post, and,
Naturally, you will not sue,
should things get worse after this,
PCR

"Dan" wrote in message
...
| Thanks I will review the web-links at my leisure. Have a great night,
PCR.
|
| "PCR" wrote in message
| ...
| : Very well, but be careful with it. (I have grabbed that Richards URL
| : into my famous "Various DOS" Master Post...
| :
| : http://support.microsoft.com/default...b;EN-US;151717
| : Can't EXIT MS-DOS Mode
| : http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=130448
| : Can't QUIT MS-DOS Mode
| : http://support.microsoft.com/default...;EN-US;q138996
| : Description of Restarting Computer in MS-DOS Mode
| : http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=134400
| : General Tips for Using MS-DOS Mode
| :
| : "Windows 98 Secrets" (Livingston/Straub), pgs 1068,1099, explains:
| :
| : 1. Direct Boot to DOS (Cold booted DOS)
| :
| : a. Accessed through Boot Menu item, "Command Prompt Only".
| : b. Windows is not started.
| : c. Config.sys & Autoexec.bat are run, if present.
| : d. Ctrl-Alt-Del boots Windows. "WIN" loads Windows.
| :
| : 2. "Quit" to DOS (Re-started MS-DOS mode)
| :
| : a. Accessed from "START, Shut Down, Re-start in MS-DOS mode", unless
| : "exit to DOS" pif was converted to "Warm Boot".
| : b. Accessed from any .pif that ISN'T a "Warm Boot" pif, as described
| : below.
| : c. Is NOT a warm boot; Config.sys & Autoexec.bat are NOT re-run, but
are
| : honored to the extent Windows has not mussed the environment they
set.
| : d. Dosstart.bat is run, if present.
| : e. "EXIT" reloads Windows (from 4K stub), also without a boot.
| : Ctrl-Alt-Del boots Windows.
| :
| : 3. Warm Booted MS-DOS mode ("Re-boot" to DOS)
| :
| : a. Accessed from a "Warm Boot" .pif that IS BOTH checked "MS-DOS
mode"
| : AND bolted "Specify a new MS-DOS configuration", in it's Properties,
| : Program tab, Advanced button.
| : b. Accessed from START button, if you've altered "exit to dos", as
| : described.
| : c. Does a warm boot, using Config.sys and Autoexec.bat as configured
in
| : the pif. (The system files are renamed *.wos & the pif files are
| : extracted for the session.)
| : d. Dosstart.bat is NOT run.
| : e. "EXIT" restores the system Config.sys & Autoexec.bat & warm boots
to
| : Windows. (Ctrl-Alt-Del & "WIN" should NOT be used.)
| :
| : If you don't want to modify the "exit to dos" pif so that it does a
warm
| : boot, then create a pif this way:
| :
| : 1. "START, Find, Command.com". (Probably in C:\ & C:\Windows).
| : 2. "R-Clk either, Send to, Desktop (create shortcut)". It will be
named
| : "MS-DOS Prompt".
| : 3. R-Clk "MS-DOS Prompt" on the Desktop, & select Properties.
| : 4. Click the Program tab & then the Advanced button.
| : 5. Mark the MS-DOS Mode check box. Mark "Warn before entering..." as
| : desired.
| : 6. For a "Warm Boot to DOS" pif, mark the "Specify a New MS-DOS
| : Configuration" button. If you do not do that, you will have a "Quit
to
| : DOS" pif.
| : 7. OK you're way out.
| :
| : When you click that pif, you will either "warm boot" or "quit to
DOS",
| : depending on what you did in step 6. If it's a warm boot, then the
| : Config.sys & Autoexec.bat inside the pif are the ones that will be
in
| : effect in your DOS session. Alter them inside the pif as desired,
before
| : clicking it.
| :
| : Cquirke's WARNING: Because of system/.pif file switching, give a
Warm
| : Boot .pif a chance to execute after clicking. If you click it a
second
| : time before getting to DOS, you may lose your system Config.sys &
| : Autoexec.bat files.
| :
| : http://cquirke.mvps.org/9x/doscompat.htm
| : There are even more DOS mentioned there.
| :
| : "Select MS-DOS mode on this page", said Leboeuf.
| : http://www.colba.net/~hlebo49/winmode.htm
| :
| :
| : --
| : Thanks or Good Luck,
| : There may be humor in this post, and,
| : Naturally, you will not sue,
| : should things get worse after this,
| : PCR
| :
| : "Dan" wrote in message
| : ...
| : | Thanks for your input, PCR. I have checked the first three boxes
to
| : allow
| : | more compatibility with my DOS programs. Thanks for your input,
| : anyway.
| : |
| : | "PCR" wrote in message
| : | ...
| : | : It's blurb says: "Specifies whether this MS-DOS-based program
will
| : be
| : | : able to detect the presence of Windows. Some MS-DOS-based
programs
| : will
| : | : not run or will lose functionality if they detect Windows.
| : | : If you want to hide Windows from this MS-DOS-based program, make
| : sure
| : | : this check box is selected. If you are not sure, or you want to
run
| : | : Windows-based programs from this MS-DOS-based program, click to
| : clear
| : | : this check box.".
| : | :
| : | : Mine are all UNchecked, clear, just as they were on the day they
| : were
| : | : born.
| : | :
| : | :
| : | : --
| : | : Thanks or Good Luck,
| : | : There may be humor in this post, and,
| : | : Naturally, you will not sue,
| : | : should things get worse after this,
| : | : PCR
| : | :
| : | : "Dan" wrote in message
| : | : ...
| : | : | In the advanced MS-DOS settings I am allowed to let MS-DOS
have
| : Direct
| : | : Access
| : | : | to Windows. What are the advantages and disadvantages to
giving
| : | : MS-DOS this
| : | : | capability. It is the fourth option in the advanced
configuration
| : | : settings.
| : | : | The other three are already checked. Thanks in advance for
your
| : help.
| : | : |
| : | : |
| : | :
| : | :
| : |
| : |
| :
| :
|
|