Updating CA

OK, this is the first time you even mentioned that you are using OE and POP
for
this. Your question was about a CA in the browser. I do not support
Hotmail, and
especially so since the recent change. I suggest you start with the info
posted in
this group on June 2, by MS-MVP (PA Bear) Robear Dyer...pasted below:

I already went through all that with Dyer and this is probably the last
attempt to get the @#%$ thing working for the outgoing smtp server with
authentication.

Thanks again though,

On 06/29/2009 11:33 PM, Jim wrote:
OK, this is the first time you even mentioned that you are using OE and POP
for
this. Your question was about a CA in the browser. I do not support
Hotmail, and
especially so since the recent change. I suggest you start with the info
posted in
this group on June 2, by MS-MVP (PA Bear) Robear Dyer...pasted below:
I already went through all that with Dyer and this is probably the last
attempt to get the @#%$ thing working for the outgoing smtp server with
authentication.

Thanks again though,



It might help to supply some information on what you already HAVE
tried, and what your present settings are. Pointing out a link to what
you were supposed to have configured does not comfirm what you are
actually set at...

Also, did you check your firewall and any email checking programs
[such as AVAST's .ini] to make sure you have set them properly for the
new mail clients.

You mention authentication,,, what have you got checked...

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On 06/29/2009 11:33 PM, Jim wrote:
OK, this is the first time you even mentioned that you are using OE and POP
for
this. Your question was about a CA in the browser. I do not support
Hotmail, and
especially so since the recent change. I suggest you start with the info
posted in
this group on June 2, by MS-MVP (PA Bear) Robear Dyer...pasted below:
I already went through all that with Dyer and this is probably the last
attempt to get the @#%$ thing working for the outgoing smtp server with
authentication.

Thanks again though,



It might help to supply some information on what you already HAVE
tried, and what your present settings are. Pointing out a link to what
you were supposed to have configured does not comfirm what you are
actually set at...

Also, did you check your firewall and any email checking programs
[such as AVAST's .ini] to make sure you have set them properly for the
new mail clients.

You mention authentication,,, what have you got checked...

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Jim, why did you begin another thread about this problem, especially
when you haven't told all of the story?

Please stick with your original thread in OE General newsgroup:
http://groups.google.com/group/micro...7d3a1d79048b0f
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On Jun 22, 9:10*pm, "Jim" wrote:
I installed the update, it did not solve the authentication problem in
WLHotmail smtp outgoing server which is blocking sending on that server
SNIP

Jim, why did you begin another thread about this problem, especially
when you haven't told all of the story?

Please stick with your original thread in OE General newsgroup:
http://groups.google.com/group/micro...7d3a1d79048b0f
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On Jun 22, 9:10*pm, "Jim" wrote:
I installed the update, it did not solve the authentication problem in
WLHotmail smtp outgoing server which is blocking sending on that server
SNIP

[censored]

Jim wrote:
snip
I already went through all that with Dyer and this is probably the last
attempt to get the @#%$ thing working for the outgoing smtp server with
authentication.

Thanks again though,

[censored]

Jim wrote:
snip
I already went through all that with Dyer and this is probably the last
attempt to get the @#%$ thing working for the outgoing smtp server with
authentication.

Thanks again though,

Repost [1]...

Jim, why did you begin another thread about this problem, especially when
you haven't told all of the story in this thread?

Please stick with your original thread in OE General newsgroup:
http://groups.google.com/group/micro...7d3a1d79048b0f

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[1] Originally posted via Google Groups earlier today but post didn't show
up on my end:
http://groups.google.com/group/micro...183e098a51f85b
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Jim wrote:
After the migration from webDAV to pop3 in OEv.6, the client is receiving
but not sending.
The error:
A secure connection to the server could not be established. Account:
'Hotmail', Server: 'smtp.live.com', Protocol: SMTP, Port: 587,
Secure(SSL):
Yes, Error Number: 0x800CCC1A

I used these settings and no luck.

http://windowslivehelp.com/solutions...k-express.aspx

Although I have used FireFox and ThunderBird I did not test it on the
pop3/smtp Hotmail system.
I think it is a Hotmail problem. I do have a shortcut link to the website
Windows Live Hotmail.

I have tried to access the Online Solutions Center with no luck in posting
or replies at that website. All I can figure is a CA needs updating for
ssl/tls connection and authentication.

Two last questions I have a It has been circulating around Wikkipedia
that if the CA root set is preinstalled on windows OS, the certificate
will
reinstall if requested by an outside source; True/False? If I
reinstall/repair IE the root set preinstalled will reinstall; T/F? These I
am not certain.
snip

Repost [1]...

Jim, why did you begin another thread about this problem, especially when
you haven't told all of the story in this thread?

Please stick with your original thread in OE General newsgroup:
http://groups.google.com/group/micro...7d3a1d79048b0f

===============
[1] Originally posted via Google Groups earlier today but post didn't show
up on my end:
http://groups.google.com/group/micro...183e098a51f85b
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Jim wrote:
After the migration from webDAV to pop3 in OEv.6, the client is receiving
but not sending.
The error:
A secure connection to the server could not be established. Account:
'Hotmail', Server: 'smtp.live.com', Protocol: SMTP, Port: 587,
Secure(SSL):
Yes, Error Number: 0x800CCC1A

I used these settings and no luck.

http://windowslivehelp.com/solutions...k-express.aspx

Although I have used FireFox and ThunderBird I did not test it on the
pop3/smtp Hotmail system.
I think it is a Hotmail problem. I do have a shortcut link to the website
Windows Live Hotmail.

I have tried to access the Online Solutions Center with no luck in posting
or replies at that website. All I can figure is a CA needs updating for
ssl/tls connection and authentication.

Two last questions I have a It has been circulating around Wikkipedia
that if the CA root set is preinstalled on windows OS, the certificate
will
reinstall if requested by an outside source; True/False? If I
reinstall/repair IE the root set preinstalled will reinstall; T/F? These I
am not certain.
snip

On 06/30/2009 01:23 PM, PA Bear [MS MVP] wrote:
Repost [1]...

Jim, why did you begin another thread about this problem, especially
when you haven't told all of the story in this thread?

Please stick with your original thread in OE General newsgroup:
http://groups.google.com/group/micro...7d3a1d79048b0f


===============
[1] Originally posted via Google Groups earlier today but post didn't
show up on my end:
http://groups.google.com/group/micro...183e098a51f85b


Wow, didn't realize this has been going on since the 19th on OE General...

Might want to explain in OE General what "use secure authentication"
means verses SSL/TLS connections [I didn't read the whole discussion so
maybe you already did]; and remind him that if an individual site
OFFERS/requires a security certificate it can be installed *upon access*
[e.g., for GoDaddy, Live, etc.]... and as noted over there, disabling
the anti-v message check does not mean its not running [such as AVAST'S
proxy runs regardless - can be tested by running filemon] so the .ini
[mentioned] check should be added to the firewall, router, and other
checks [ports/etc. which you probably already did..].

Sorry to butt-in here.... just brain activity leaking out...

And just to pitch a biach,,, wonder why Microsoft/Live just didn't use
IMAP... pop is so clunky...

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