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Notepad and Word
Hello,
I am away from home and dependent upon computers at public libraries to get my e-mail and read newsgroups. I like to copy information from my newsletters and from these and other newsgroups and paste it into already created notepad files that are on floppy disks. On my home computer I run Windows 98 Second Edition and a Works word processor. Right now the public library that I visit runs Windows XP. It will not allow people to use Wordpad or Notepad. I can only use Microsoft Word. I've been copy/pasting information from newsgroups and newsletters by doing the following: -- Highlight and copy the information I want -- Minimize the screen that has the information that I want -- Insert my floppy disk that has the already created notepad files. -- Click the Microsoft Word button on the library's opening screen. A new Word document appears on the taskbar. I click it and see a blank Word document.Then I do File Open to see all of the notepad files that are on my floppy disk. I double-click the notepad file that I want to paste the information into and then do Copy Paste. Weird |__ and __| appear in the corners of the pasted information and some sort of small clipboard image appears. The text is there too. Will I be able to access all of this saved information when I get back home and insert these floppy disks into my 98SE machine? I'm concerned at this point because I am pasting information into a notepad file by using Word. And I don't have Word on my home machine. Sure would appreciate any information that would help me be sure to keep all that I am saving and be able to access it when I get home and back to my trustworthy 98SE machine! Thank you very much. Lee |
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Notepad and Word
The parts of the process you have described are not relevant to your
question. The relevant bit is the option you choose when you save the WORD file. If you are saving the file as plain text you will be able to access it when you get home. WORD should save as plain text by default for files that use a TXT extension, but it usually gives a warning that some formatting might be lost. That doesn't worry you, as Notepad doesn't support formatting anyway. You can force WORD to save as plain text by selecting Save As, accepting the default filename, but changing the file type to plain text. If you save like this, then open the file again and the text is there, then it will be OK when you use the file with Notepad. You can avoid the odd results from pasting by selecting Edit / Paste Special / Plain text. -- Jeff Richards MS MVP (DTS) "Lee" wrote in message ... Hello, I am away from home and dependent upon computers at public libraries to get my e-mail and read newsgroups. I like to copy information from my newsletters and from these and other newsgroups and paste it into already created notepad files that are on floppy disks. On my home computer I run Windows 98 Second Edition and a Works word processor. Right now the public library that I visit runs Windows XP. It will not allow people to use Wordpad or Notepad. I can only use Microsoft Word. I've been copy/pasting information from newsgroups and newsletters by doing the following: -- Highlight and copy the information I want -- Minimize the screen that has the information that I want -- Insert my floppy disk that has the already created notepad files. -- Click the Microsoft Word button on the library's opening screen. A new Word document appears on the taskbar. I click it and see a blank Word document.Then I do File Open to see all of the notepad files that are on my floppy disk. I double-click the notepad file that I want to paste the information into and then do Copy Paste. Weird |__ and __| appear in the corners of the pasted information and some sort of small clipboard image appears. The text is there too. Will I be able to access all of this saved information when I get back home and insert these floppy disks into my 98SE machine? I'm concerned at this point because I am pasting information into a notepad file by using Word. And I don't have Word on my home machine. Sure would appreciate any information that would help me be sure to keep all that I am saving and be able to access it when I get home and back to my trustworthy 98SE machine! Thank you very much. Lee |
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Hello Jeff,
Thank you so much for your information and suggestions. WORD should save as plain text by default for files that use a TXT extension, but it usually gives a warning that some formatting might be lost. I do get a warning that some formatting might be lost. I know that no formatting is on a notepad file. I've been clicking the Yes button to the "Do you still want to do this?" question. I guess I'm doing this okay! Hurrah! You can force WORD to save as plain text by selecting Save As, accepting the default filename, but changing the file type to plain text. If you save like this, then open the file again and the text is there, then it will be OK when you use the file with Notepad. I will try this! You can avoid the odd results from pasting by selecting Edit / Paste Special / Plain text. I will try this too! Once again, thanks so much. I do appreciate your help! Lee -----Original Message----- The parts of the process you have described are not relevant to your question. The relevant bit is the option you choose when you save the WORD file. If you are saving the file as plain text you will be able to access it when you get home. WORD should save as plain text by default for files that use a TXT extension, but it usually gives a warning that some formatting might be lost. That doesn't worry you, as Notepad doesn't support formatting anyway. You can force WORD to save as plain text by selecting Save As, accepting the default filename, but changing the file type to plain text. If you save like this, then open the file again and the text is there, then it will be OK when you use the file with Notepad. You can avoid the odd results from pasting by selecting Edit / Paste Special / Plain text. -- Jeff Richards MS MVP (DTS) "Lee" wrote in message ... Hello, I am away from home and dependent upon computers at public libraries to get my e-mail and read newsgroups. I like to copy information from my newsletters and from these and other newsgroups and paste it into already created notepad files that are on floppy disks. On my home computer I run Windows 98 Second Edition and a Works word processor. Right now the public library that I visit runs Windows XP. It will not allow people to use Wordpad or Notepad. I can only use Microsoft Word. I've been copy/pasting information from newsgroups and newsletters by doing the following: -- Highlight and copy the information I want -- Minimize the screen that has the information that I want -- Insert my floppy disk that has the already created notepad files. -- Click the Microsoft Word button on the library's opening screen. A new Word document appears on the taskbar. I click it and see a blank Word document.Then I do File Open to see all of the notepad files that are on my floppy disk. I double-click the notepad file that I want to paste the information into and then do Copy Paste. Weird |__ and __| appear in the corners of the pasted information and some sort of small clipboard image appears. The text is there too. Will I be able to access all of this saved information when I get back home and insert these floppy disks into my 98SE machine? I'm concerned at this point because I am pasting information into a notepad file by using Word. And I don't have Word on my home machine. Sure would appreciate any information that would help me be sure to keep all that I am saving and be able to access it when I get home and back to my trustworthy 98SE machine! Thank you very much. Lee . |
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You're welcome. One small word of warning however - WORD has a reputation
for being unreliable when you open a file from floppy. This might only be when the file size is large, or when the file is in WORD format, but if possible I would recommend that you copy from floppy to hard disk, then open from hard disk, make the changes, save to hard disk and copy back to floppy. Of course, the library might not allow this, and it does have the risk that you forget the last step and leave the file behind! So another option is to create a backup copy on floppy before you start editing in WORD, just in case it crashes and takes out the copy you are working on.. -- Jeff Richards MS MVP (DTS) "Lee" wrote in message ... Hello Jeff, Thank you so much for your information and suggestions. WORD should save as plain text by default for files that use a TXT extension, but it usually gives a warning that some formatting might be lost. I do get a warning that some formatting might be lost. I know that no formatting is on a notepad file. I've been clicking the Yes button to the "Do you still want to do this?" question. I guess I'm doing this okay! Hurrah! You can force WORD to save as plain text by selecting Save As, accepting the default filename, but changing the file type to plain text. If you save like this, then open the file again and the text is there, then it will be OK when you use the file with Notepad. I will try this! You can avoid the odd results from pasting by selecting Edit / Paste Special / Plain text. I will try this too! Once again, thanks so much. I do appreciate your help! Lee |
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"Lee" wrote in message ...
Hello, I am away from home and dependent upon computers at public libraries to get my e-mail and read newsgroups. I like to copy information from my newsletters and from these and other newsgroups and paste it into already created notepad files that are on floppy disks. On my home computer I run Windows 98 Second Edition and a Works word processor. Right now the public library that I visit runs Windows XP. It will not allow people to use Wordpad or Notepad. I can only use Microsoft Word. I've been copy/pasting information from newsgroups and newsletters by doing the following: -- Highlight and copy the information I want -- Minimize the screen that has the information that I want -- Insert my floppy disk that has the already created notepad files. -- Click the Microsoft Word button on the library's opening screen. A new Word document appears on the taskbar. I click it and see a blank Word document.Then I do File Open to see all of the notepad files that are on my floppy disk. I double-click the notepad file that I want to paste the information into and then do Copy Paste. Weird |__ and __| appear in the corners of the pasted information and some sort of small clipboard image appears. The text is there too. Will I be able to access all of this saved information when I get back home and insert these floppy disks into my 98SE machine? I'm concerned at this point because I am pasting information into a notepad file by using Word. And I don't have Word on my home machine. Sure would appreciate any information that would help me be sure to keep all that I am saving and be able to access it when I get home and back to my trustworthy 98SE machine! Thank you very much. Lee Hi, Lee. You should be fine IF when it comes time to save the new info to floppy you choose either .txt or .rtf as file types to save with. Otherwise Word is going to make a .doc file out it. Rtf will work with WordPad but like the .doc format it contains lots of tricky page rendering overhead bytes that simpler text programs like notepad can not deal with. |
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"Lee" wrote in message ...
Hello, I am away from home and dependent upon computers at public libraries to get my e-mail and read newsgroups. I like to copy information from my newsletters and from these and other newsgroups and paste it into already created notepad files that are on floppy disks. On my home computer I run Windows 98 Second Edition and a Works word processor. Right now the public library that I visit runs Windows XP. It will not allow people to use Wordpad or Notepad. I can only use Microsoft Word. I've been copy/pasting information from newsgroups and newsletters by doing the following: -- Highlight and copy the information I want -- Minimize the screen that has the information that I want -- Insert my floppy disk that has the already created notepad files. -- Click the Microsoft Word button on the library's opening screen. A new Word document appears on the taskbar. I click it and see a blank Word document.Then I do File Open to see all of the notepad files that are on my floppy disk. I double-click the notepad file that I want to paste the information into and then do Copy Paste. Weird |__ and __| appear in the corners of the pasted information and some sort of small clipboard image appears. The text is there too. Will I be able to access all of this saved information when I get back home and insert these floppy disks into my 98SE machine? I'm concerned at this point because I am pasting information into a notepad file by using Word. And I don't have Word on my home machine. Sure would appreciate any information that would help me be sure to keep all that I am saving and be able to access it when I get home and back to my trustworthy 98SE machine! Thank you very much. Lee Hi, Lee. You should be fine IF when it comes time to save the new info to floppy you choose either .txt or .rtf as file types to save with. Otherwise Word is going to make a .doc file out it. Rtf will work with WordPad but like the .doc format it contains lots of tricky page rendering overhead bytes that simpler text programs like notepad can not deal with. |
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"Lee" wrote in message ...
Hello, I am away from home and dependent upon computers at public libraries to get my e-mail and read newsgroups. I like to copy information from my newsletters and from these and other newsgroups and paste it into already created notepad files that are on floppy disks. On my home computer I run Windows 98 Second Edition and a Works word processor. Right now the public library that I visit runs Windows XP. It will not allow people to use Wordpad or Notepad. I can only use Microsoft Word. I've been copy/pasting information from newsgroups and newsletters by doing the following: -- Highlight and copy the information I want -- Minimize the screen that has the information that I want -- Insert my floppy disk that has the already created notepad files. -- Click the Microsoft Word button on the library's opening screen. A new Word document appears on the taskbar. I click it and see a blank Word document.Then I do File Open to see all of the notepad files that are on my floppy disk. I double-click the notepad file that I want to paste the information into and then do Copy Paste. Weird |__ and __| appear in the corners of the pasted information and some sort of small clipboard image appears. The text is there too. Will I be able to access all of this saved information when I get back home and insert these floppy disks into my 98SE machine? I'm concerned at this point because I am pasting information into a notepad file by using Word. And I don't have Word on my home machine. Sure would appreciate any information that would help me be sure to keep all that I am saving and be able to access it when I get home and back to my trustworthy 98SE machine! Thank you very much. Lee Do you know why the library will not allow Notepad? Could put a copy of Notepad on your floppy and run it from there? It's only 53k on my computer. |
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Notepad and Word
Hi again Jeff,
You can force WORD to save as plain text by selecting Save As, accepting the default filename, but changing the file type to plain text. If you save like this, then open the file again and the text is there, then it will be OK when you use the file with Notepad. Yup, this works just fine. Thanks! You can avoid the odd results from pasting by selecting Edit / Paste Special / Plain text. Don't know why but this didn't work. I did Edit Paste Special Unformatted Text (no "Plain text" option given). I still get those __|'s. Any thoughts? I would recommend that you copy from floppy to hard disk, then open from hard disk, make the changes, save to hard disk and copy back to floppy. Of course, the library might not allow this ... You're correct. The library will not allow this. another option is to create a backup copy on floppy before you start editing in WORD, just in case it crashes and takes out the copy you are working on.. Yes, I do have a backup of everything I've been saving and working on. Just in case. And yes, I have needed it. I lost everything once already. Some glitch on the system here --WORD doesn't always save as plain text by default for files that use a TXT extension. It went ahead and made a totally unusable and unfixable mess of my file. So glad I had the backup! Once again, thanks. Your help is great and much appreciated. Lee -----Original Message----- You're welcome. One small word of warning however - WORD has a reputation for being unreliable when you open a file from floppy. This might only be when the file size is large, or when the file is in WORD format, but if possible I would recommend that you copy from floppy to hard disk, then open from hard disk, make the changes, save to hard disk and copy back to floppy. Of course, the library might not allow this, and it does have the risk that you forget the last step and leave the file behind! So another option is to create a backup copy on floppy before you start editing in WORD, just in case it crashes and takes out the copy you are working on.. -- Jeff Richards MS MVP (DTS) "Lee" wrote in message ... Hello Jeff, Thank you so much for your information and suggestions. WORD should save as plain text by default for files that use a TXT extension, but it usually gives a warning that some formatting might be lost. I do get a warning that some formatting might be lost. I know that no formatting is on a notepad file. I've been clicking the Yes button to the "Do you still want to do this?" question. I guess I'm doing this okay! Hurrah! You can force WORD to save as plain text by selecting Save As, accepting the default filename, but changing the file type to plain text. If you save like this, then open the file again and the text is there, then it will be OK when you use the file with Notepad. I will try this! You can avoid the odd results from pasting by selecting Edit / Paste Special / Plain text. I will try this too! Once again, thanks so much. I do appreciate your help! Lee . |
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Hi Lee, (yes, readers, there are two different Lee's in this thread You should be fine IF when it comes time to save the new info to floppy you choose either .txt or .rtf as file types to save with. Otherwise Word is going to make a .doc file out it. Yes, I've been using .txt. I don't even have Word on my home computer. I have Works (the version prior to when Word was included with the Works suite). I use .rtf at home a lot. Works fine for me! Thank you. Lee -----Original Message----- "Lee" wrote in message ... Hello, I am away from home and dependent upon computers at public libraries to get my e-mail and read newsgroups. I like to copy information from my newsletters and from these and other newsgroups and paste it into already created notepad files that are on floppy disks. On my home computer I run Windows 98 Second Edition and a Works word processor. Right now the public library that I visit runs Windows XP. It will not allow people to use Wordpad or Notepad. I can only use Microsoft Word. I've been copy/pasting information from newsgroups and newsletters by doing the following: -- Highlight and copy the information I want -- Minimize the screen that has the information that I want -- Insert my floppy disk that has the already created notepad files. -- Click the Microsoft Word button on the library's opening screen. A new Word document appears on the taskbar. I click it and see a blank Word document.Then I do File Open to see all of the notepad files that are on my floppy disk. I double-click the notepad file that I want to paste the information into and then do Copy Paste. Weird |__ and __| appear in the corners of the pasted information and some sort of small clipboard image appears. The text is there too. Will I be able to access all of this saved information when I get back home and insert these floppy disks into my 98SE machine? I'm concerned at this point because I am pasting information into a notepad file by using Word. And I don't have Word on my home machine. Sure would appreciate any information that would help me be sure to keep all that I am saving and be able to access it when I get home and back to my trustworthy 98SE machine! Thank you very much. Lee Hi, Lee. You should be fine IF when it comes time to save the new info to floppy you choose either .txt or .rtf as file types to save with. Otherwise Word is going to make a .doc file out it. Rtf will work with WordPad but like the .doc format it contains lots of tricky page rendering overhead bytes that simpler text programs like notepad can not deal with. . |
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Do you know why the library will not allow Notepad?
Could put a copy of Notepad on your floppy and run it from there? It's only 53k on my computer. Interesting idea. I asked about doing this and they said no. City of about 270,000 with 5 libraries. The library I use has 18 computers. No time limit on any of them. Nice, but they lock down a lot. Can't even send anything to the desktop here. Even the library techs are unhappy with some of the restrictions. -----Original Message----- "Lee" wrote in message ... Hello, I am away from home and dependent upon computers at public libraries to get my e-mail and read newsgroups. I like to copy information from my newsletters and from these and other newsgroups and paste it into already created notepad files that are on floppy disks. On my home computer I run Windows 98 Second Edition and a Works word processor. Right now the public library that I visit runs Windows XP. It will not allow people to use Wordpad or Notepad. I can only use Microsoft Word. I've been copy/pasting information from newsgroups and newsletters by doing the following: -- Highlight and copy the information I want -- Minimize the screen that has the information that I want -- Insert my floppy disk that has the already created notepad files. -- Click the Microsoft Word button on the library's opening screen. A new Word document appears on the taskbar. I click it and see a blank Word document.Then I do File Open to see all of the notepad files that are on my floppy disk. I double-click the notepad file that I want to paste the information into and then do Copy Paste. Weird |__ and __| appear in the corners of the pasted information and some sort of small clipboard image appears. The text is there too. Will I be able to access all of this saved information when I get back home and insert these floppy disks into my 98SE machine? I'm concerned at this point because I am pasting information into a notepad file by using Word. And I don't have Word on my home machine. Sure would appreciate any information that would help me be sure to keep all that I am saving and be able to access it when I get home and back to my trustworthy 98SE machine! Thank you very much. Lee Do you know why the library will not allow Notepad? Could put a copy of Notepad on your floppy and run it from there? It's only 53k on my computer. . |
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