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Missing Microsoft Family Logon Box at Startup
Hello. I am running Windows ME. I did a reinstall to correct a midi problem.
This worked, but created a new problem. I no longer get a logon box at startup. I have researched this extensively and taken all the steps I have found suggested. I believe I have all the basic setups correct and assume it is a registry issue. I have used the following in control panel: Passwords to enable different user settings; Users to set up different user profiles and Network to add the Microsoft Family Logon Client and select it as primary logon. I have tried removing all this, deleting all .pwl files and selecting Windows Logon to see if I could get a basic logon -- no go. I have also tried setting all the above up again after deleting .pwl files. Again no logon. Any help appreciated. |
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In article , "KC"
wrote: Hello. I am running Windows ME. I did a reinstall to correct a midi problem. This worked, but created a new problem. I no longer get a logon box at startup. I have researched this extensively and taken all the steps I have found suggested. I believe I have all the basic setups correct and assume it is a registry issue. I have used the following in control panel: Passwords to enable different user settings; Users to set up different user profiles and Network to add the Microsoft Family Logon Client and select it as primary logon. I have tried removing all this, deleting all .pwl files and selecting Windows Logon to see if I could get a basic logon -- no go. I have also tried setting all the above up again after deleting .pwl files. Again no logon. Any help appreciated. This is a common problem in Windows 95/98/Me. It can happen even when you've done everything right, especially right after a clean installation of the OS. The most likely fix is to run the registry editor, open this registry key: HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\Microsoft\Windows\Curr entVersion\ Network\Real Mode Net and delete the value named "AutoLogon". This web site explains how to do it: http://www.wown.com/j_helmig/nologon.htm#AutoLogon -- Best Wishes, Steve Winograd, MS-MVP (Windows Networking) Please post any reply as a follow-up message in the news group for everyone to see. I'm sorry, but I don't answer questions addressed directly to me in E-mail or news groups. Microsoft Most Valuable Professional - Windows Networking http://mvp.support.microsoft.com Steve Winograd's Networking FAQ http://www.bcmaven.com/networking/faq.htm |
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S0M=?= says... Hello. I am running Windows ME. I did a reinstall to correct a midi problem. This worked, but created a new problem. I no longer get a logon box at startup. I have researched this extensively and taken all the steps I have found suggested. I believe I have all the basic setups correct and assume it is a registry issue. I have used the following in control panel: Passwords to enable different user settings; Users to set up different user profiles and Network to add the Microsoft Family Logon Client and select it as primary logon. I have tried removing all this, deleting all .pwl files and selecting Windows Logon to see if I could get a basic logon -- no go. I have also tried setting all the above up again after deleting .pwl files. Again no logon. Any help appreciated. In Windows Me, "Network Properties", "Configuration" tab, I clicked on the "Add..." button, then the "Client" selection in the "Select Network Component Type" list; and see "Microsoft Family Logon" as a choice to add. Can you not get that choice? -- Norman ~Win dain a lotica, En vai tu ri, Si lo ta ~Fin dein a loluca, En dragu a sei lain ~Vi fa-ru les shutai am, En riga-lint |
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Thanks for the assistance Steve. Where you pointed me, together with some
further leg work on my part, has resolved my logon problem described above. I have put down a few thoughts on the steps it took below and also reference the following: http://support.microsoft.com/kb/q141858/ http://support.microsoft.com/kb/176057/EN-US/ http://support.microsoft.com/default...b;en-us;176059 1. I have no idea why I did not find the first-mentioned support document above ("Doc 1") in my internet searches in my efforts to research this problem. Steve pointed it out. 2. The steps outlined in Doc 1 helped with my solution, but in some ways I had some differences. 3. I had earlier deleted the HKLM mentioned in step 2 of Doc 1 -- due to other reserach I had done. But this alone did not resolve my problem. It seemed to have reappeared, however, so I deleted it again. 4. Step 3 of Doc 1 was different than my situation, since I was just trying to use Microsoft Family Logon and not a network server. 5. Step 4 of Doc 1 was not applicable to my situation. Perhaps it involves Novell network situations? 6. I decided to use Control Panel_System_Device Manger to remove all Network Adapters. I went to Control Panel _ Network and added Client for Microsoft Networks and IPX/SPX- compatable protocol to enable me to follow Step 3 in Doc 1. Under step 3, I chose to select frame type Ethernet II. I then rebooted. 7. On reboot, the new hardware wizard found my two networking adapters and added them. (Remember I had deleted them to see if this would help and I think it might have). 8. On the reboot, I got a Microsoft Networking logon box. I had been unable to get any logon box for days before, not matter what network and primary logon I chose. 9. I renamed all passwords to OLD that ended in .pwl. 10. I reestablished my profiles folders in c:/windows. 11. I extracted the Netfam.inf file to c:/windows/inf from cabs -- it was already in windows/inf, but I had learned that corruption in it might be part of the problem. 12. I set up all my mail and outlook .pst files as before when things were working. 13. I used numerous reboots, reistry and profiles files back-ups as well as ME system restore points at various steps. 14. I finally changed to Microsoft Family Logon and removed the Microsoft Networking Logon and got to just the former's logon box at boot-up, as I desired. Thanks again. "Steve Winograd [MVP]" wrote: In article , "KC" wrote: Hello. I am running Windows ME. I did a reinstall to correct a midi problem. This worked, but created a new problem. I no longer get a logon box at startup. I have researched this extensively and taken all the steps I have found suggested. I believe I have all the basic setups correct and assume it is a registry issue. I have used the following in control panel: Passwords to enable different user settings; Users to set up different user profiles and Network to add the Microsoft Family Logon Client and select it as primary logon. I have tried removing all this, deleting all .pwl files and selecting Windows Logon to see if I could get a basic logon -- no go. I have also tried setting all the above up again after deleting .pwl files. Again no logon. Any help appreciated. This is a common problem in Windows 95/98/Me. It can happen even when you've done everything right, especially right after a clean installation of the OS. The most likely fix is to run the registry editor, open this registry key: HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\Microsoft\Windows\Curr entVersion\ Network\Real Mode Net and delete the value named "AutoLogon". This web site explains how to do it: http://www.wown.com/j_helmig/nologon.htm#AutoLogon -- Best Wishes, Steve Winograd, MS-MVP (Windows Networking) Please post any reply as a follow-up message in the news group for everyone to see. I'm sorry, but I don't answer questions addressed directly to me in E-mail or news groups. Microsoft Most Valuable Professional - Windows Networking http://mvp.support.microsoft.com Steve Winograd's Networking FAQ http://www.bcmaven.com/networking/faq.htm |
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Some more explanation on my items 8, 10 and 13 below, now that I have more
time to give it..... Regarding item 8: I don't know for sure, but it seemed to help that I selected a client -- Microsoft Networking -- that I didn't want and that wasn't really applicable to my system on my route to getting the client and logon box that I did want -- Microsoft Family Logon. I simply ignored the error message that "No domain server was available ..." until I completed my item 14. I wanted all else set up before I tried the family logon again in fear I might end up back at no logon box otherwise.(Earlier attempts to go straight for Microsoft Family Logon client after having completed my item 3 were unsuccessful.) Regarding item 10: I reestablished the profiles this way. A. I had long before backed up the entire c:\windows\profiles file on my D:\ non-system harddrive to preserve the profile settings that I liked when my computer had been working properly -- most notable the outlook.pst files for different users and the different users "favourites". B. First step of item 10 was to delete the c:\windows\profiles file. C. Under Control Panel _ Passwords_User Profiles, I then selected "users can customize their preferences ..." E. Under Control Panel _ Users, I then created the various user names and user attributes I needed. F. Rebooted. G. Then confirmed that all the user names I had created would work with the logon box I was getting. G. Then onfirmed that all registry settings remained as per above numbered items in my earlier solution post. H. I copied into the respective c:\windows\profiles\["appropriate user name"] folders those items that I wanted to restore from the backup mentioned in A above. Regarding item 13. What I meant is that I frequently made registry backups and made profiles folder backups to my non-system harddrive (as I seemed to make progress through my various steps). I also set a number of ME System Restore points as I made progress. As it turns out, I didn't need them. "KC" wrote: Thanks for the assistance Steve. Where you pointed me, together with some further leg work on my part, has resolved my logon problem described above. I have put down a few thoughts on the steps it took below and also reference the following: http://support.microsoft.com/kb/q141858/ http://support.microsoft.com/kb/176057/EN-US/ http://support.microsoft.com/default...b;en-us;176059 1. I have no idea why I did not find the first-mentioned support document above ("Doc 1") in my internet searches in my efforts to research this problem. Steve pointed it out. 2. The steps outlined in Doc 1 helped with my solution, but in some ways I had some differences. 3. I had earlier deleted the HKLM mentioned in step 2 of Doc 1 -- due to other reserach I had done. But this alone did not resolve my problem. It seemed to have reappeared, however, so I deleted it again. 4. Step 3 of Doc 1 was different than my situation, since I was just trying to use Microsoft Family Logon and not a network server. 5. Step 4 of Doc 1 was not applicable to my situation. Perhaps it involves Novell network situations? 6. I decided to use Control Panel_System_Device Manger to remove all Network Adapters. I went to Control Panel _ Network and added Client for Microsoft Networks and IPX/SPX- compatable protocol to enable me to follow Step 3 in Doc 1. Under step 3, I chose to select frame type Ethernet II. I then rebooted. 7. On reboot, the new hardware wizard found my two networking adapters and added them. (Remember I had deleted them to see if this would help and I think it might have). 8. On the reboot, I got a Microsoft Networking logon box. I had been unable to get any logon box for days before, not matter what network and primary logon I chose. 9. I renamed all passwords to OLD that ended in .pwl. 10. I reestablished my profiles folders in c:/windows. 11. I extracted the Netfam.inf file to c:/windows/inf from cabs -- it was already in windows/inf, but I had learned that corruption in it might be part of the problem. 12. I set up all my mail and outlook .pst files as before when things were working. 13. I used numerous reboots, reistry and profiles files back-ups as well as ME system restore points at various steps. 14. I finally changed to Microsoft Family Logon and removed the Microsoft Networking Logon and got to just the former's logon box at boot-up, as I desired. Thanks again. "Steve Winograd [MVP]" wrote: In article , "KC" wrote: Hello. I am running Windows ME. I did a reinstall to correct a midi problem. This worked, but created a new problem. I no longer get a logon box at startup. I have researched this extensively and taken all the steps I have found suggested. I believe I have all the basic setups correct and assume it is a registry issue. I have used the following in control panel: Passwords to enable different user settings; Users to set up different user profiles and Network to add the Microsoft Family Logon Client and select it as primary logon. I have tried removing all this, deleting all .pwl files and selecting Windows Logon to see if I could get a basic logon -- no go. I have also tried setting all the above up again after deleting .pwl files. Again no logon. Any help appreciated. This is a common problem in Windows 95/98/Me. It can happen even when you've done everything right, especially right after a clean installation of the OS. The most likely fix is to run the registry editor, open this registry key: HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\Microsoft\Windows\Curr entVersion\ Network\Real Mode Net and delete the value named "AutoLogon". This web site explains how to do it: http://www.wown.com/j_helmig/nologon.htm#AutoLogon -- Best Wishes, Steve Winograd, MS-MVP (Windows Networking) Please post any reply as a follow-up message in the news group for everyone to see. I'm sorry, but I don't answer questions addressed directly to me in E-mail or news groups. Microsoft Most Valuable Professional - Windows Networking http://mvp.support.microsoft.com Steve Winograd's Networking FAQ http://www.bcmaven.com/networking/faq.htm |
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