A first from Dell: giving customers a choice of Windows operating systems

Today in a newspaper advertisement for Dell computers directed at business
customers, the ad gave customers a choice of Windows Vista or Windows XP for
each computer being offered. I've never seen anything like this before. In
the past, once a new version of Windows had come out, Dell sold all its new
computers with the new version.

What this seems to indicate is that Dell is aware of the problems with Vista
and the unhappiness many users have expressed about it, so they want to
attract more customers by giving them the option of buying XP.

What about the "fact" that HP is out selling Dell - and HP is offering only
Vista?

Dell is just losing it and they are grabbing at a life ring.

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Regards,

Richard Urban
Microsoft MVP Windows Shell/User
(For email, remove the obvious from my address)

Quote from George Ankner:
If you knew as much as you think you know,
You would realize that you don't know what you thought you knew!

"Larry" wrote in message
...
Today in a newspaper advertisement for Dell computers directed at business
customers, the ad gave customers a choice of Windows Vista or Windows XP
for
each computer being offered. I've never seen anything like this before.
In
the past, once a new version of Windows had come out, Dell sold all its
new
computers with the new version.

What this seems to indicate is that Dell is aware of the problems with
Vista
and the unhappiness many users have expressed about it, so they want to
attract more customers by giving them the option of buying XP.

Yea, but who would want a crappy HP machine anyway? Even though Dell is
"losing it" their machines are much better than HP. Oh the poor
consumer....

People who buy HP machines don't know any better, therefore don't know they
have choices (or don't understand it)



"Richard Urban" wrote in message
...
What about the "fact" that HP is out selling Dell - and HP is offering
only Vista?

Dell is just losing it and they are grabbing at a life ring.

--


Regards,

Richard Urban
Microsoft MVP Windows Shell/User
(For email, remove the obvious from my address)

Quote from George Ankner:
If you knew as much as you think you know,
You would realize that you don't know what you thought you knew!

"Larry" wrote in message
...
Today in a newspaper advertisement for Dell computers directed at
business
customers, the ad gave customers a choice of Windows Vista or Windows XP
for
each computer being offered. I've never seen anything like this before.
In
the past, once a new version of Windows had come out, Dell sold all its
new
computers with the new version.

What this seems to indicate is that Dell is aware of the problems with
Vista
and the unhappiness many users have expressed about it, so they want to
attract more customers by giving them the option of buying XP.

Just out of curiosity what's so bad about HP? I mean at least what's worse
about them than Dell?

Nandro
"Spanky deMonkey" wrote in message
...
Yea, but who would want a crappy HP machine anyway? Even though Dell is
"losing it" their machines are much better than HP. Oh the poor
consumer....

People who buy HP machines don't know any better, therefore don't know
they have choices (or don't understand it)



"Richard Urban" wrote in message
...
What about the "fact" that HP is out selling Dell - and HP is offering
only Vista?

Dell is just losing it and they are grabbing at a life ring.

--


Regards,

Richard Urban
Microsoft MVP Windows Shell/User
(For email, remove the obvious from my address)

Quote from George Ankner:
If you knew as much as you think you know,
You would realize that you don't know what you thought you knew!

"Larry" wrote in message
...
Today in a newspaper advertisement for Dell computers directed at
business
customers, the ad gave customers a choice of Windows Vista or Windows XP
for
each computer being offered. I've never seen anything like this before.
In
the past, once a new version of Windows had come out, Dell sold all its
new
computers with the new version.

What this seems to indicate is that Dell is aware of the problems with
Vista
and the unhappiness many users have expressed about it, so they want to
attract more customers by giving them the option of buying XP.

Have you ever worked on an HP box? Have you seen the inferior parts, the
mainstream junk that was new 5 years ago that HP throws together with the
latest OS? Once you boot up an HP gem, take a look at the crap they load
up. AOL, Earthlink, other crap that I don't even want to think about.
Stuff that slows any computer to a crawl.

I could go on, but I'm going outside for a nice walk because it's still 80
degrees outside with sunshine. Nice to go out and get away from a screen.


"Nandro" wrote in message
...
Just out of curiosity what's so bad about HP? I mean at least what's
worse about them than Dell?

Nandro
"Spanky deMonkey" wrote in message
...
Yea, but who would want a crappy HP machine anyway? Even though Dell is
"losing it" their machines are much better than HP. Oh the poor
consumer....

People who buy HP machines don't know any better, therefore don't know
they have choices (or don't understand it)



"Richard Urban" wrote in message
...
What about the "fact" that HP is out selling Dell - and HP is offering
only Vista?

Dell is just losing it and they are grabbing at a life ring.

--


Regards,

Richard Urban
Microsoft MVP Windows Shell/User
(For email, remove the obvious from my address)

Quote from George Ankner:
If you knew as much as you think you know,
You would realize that you don't know what you thought you knew!

"Larry" wrote in message
...
Today in a newspaper advertisement for Dell computers directed at
business
customers, the ad gave customers a choice of Windows Vista or Windows
XP for
each computer being offered. I've never seen anything like this
before. In
the past, once a new version of Windows had come out, Dell sold all its
new
computers with the new version.

What this seems to indicate is that Dell is aware of the problems with
Vista
and the unhappiness many users have expressed about it, so they want
to
attract more customers by giving them the option of buying XP.

"Nandro" wrote in message
...
Just out of curiosity what's so bad about HP? I mean at least what's
worse about them than Dell?


HP's are sold at fine retailers like Sears & WalMart.
You can find all kinds of qualified tech support from the knowledable sales
staff, like Fred, who only 1 hour earlier sold somebody a refrigerator in
the next aisle.

I heard that WalMart will be offering Health Clinics at their stores. Run
don't walk from your friendly HMO!


"john" wrote in message
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"Nandro" wrote in message
...
Just out of curiosity what's so bad about HP? I mean at least what's
worse about them than Dell?


HP's are sold at fine retailers like Sears & WalMart.
You can find all kinds of qualified tech support from the knowledable
sales staff, like Fred, who only 1 hour earlier sold somebody a
refrigerator in the next aisle.

On Wed, 25 Apr 2007 19:45:04 -0400, "john" wrote:
"Nandro" wrote in message

Just out of curiosity what's so bad about HP? I mean at least what's
worse about them than Dell?

One word: Compaq.

Compaq started out as one of the best builders of PCs, when there were
still concerns about "IBM compatibility". Thier high-water mark was
when they scooped IBM to be the first to release a 386-based PC, which
is all the more impressive when you recall that it was the 386 that
laid the foundation for all of today's PC OSs.

That the Compaq name was dropped after the merger with HP, says much
about how that great legacy was squandered, and in the usual "bait and
switch" way; come for the reputation, get served the most ruthlessly
cut-price junk it is possible to make.

Compaq were the kings of brand lock-in, much as Sony are today. Over
the years, I've had Compaqs from various generations to be fixed, and
there's always been some complication or sob-story...
- RAM soldered into the motherboard
- "special" RAM
- "special" slim-line 3.5" laptop HDs, well into age of 2.5" std
- the puniest PSUs possible
- the smallest, most restrictive cases possible
- no ROM-based CMOS setup; need "special" HD partition
- typical large-OEM "no standard Windows disk" scams
- oddball mounting and construction screws
- even "special" diskette and CD drives in desktop systems

How much of this has permeated formally-"HP" PCs, I wonder?



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"Richard Urban" wrote in message
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What about the "fact" that HP is out selling Dell - and HP is offering
only Vista?

Are HP refusing to supply XP or just not advertising XP anymore?
If HP refuse to supply XP at this early stage in Vistas life they're crazy.

Look at their web site and judge for yourself. I haven't seen any new
computers with other than Vista being supplied.

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Regards,

Richard Urban
Microsoft MVP Windows Shell/User
(For email, remove the obvious from my address)

Quote from George Ankner:
If you knew as much as you think you know,
You would realize that you don't know what you thought you knew!

"Julian" wrote in message
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"Richard Urban" wrote in message
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What about the "fact" that HP is out selling Dell - and HP is offering
only Vista?

Are HP refusing to supply XP or just not advertising XP anymore?
If HP refuse to supply XP at this early stage in Vistas life they're
crazy.