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Old March 1st 16, 01:13 PM posted to microsoft.public.win98.gen_discussion
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This is interesting. I installed VLC 2.0.5 (32 bit) [from 2012] on
Windows 98se, and it works perfectly.

This version is listed for XP and higher. It's not even supposed to work
on Win 2000.

The last version intended for Win98 was ver 1.0.2 from 2009.

I wonder how this can be????

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Old March 7th 16, 04:10 AM posted to microsoft.public.win98.gen_discussion
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On Tue, 01 Mar 2016 20:01:29 -0500, 98 Guy wrote:

wrote:

This is interesting. I installed VLC 2.0.5 (32 bit) [from 2012] on
Windows 98se, and it works perfectly.

This version is listed for XP and higher. It's not even supposed to
work on Win 2000.


I've been running VLC 2.x.y on my win-98 systems for years. On the
system I'm typing this on I have version 2.0.8.

I wonder how this can be????


You have KernelEx installed?

That's how.


Yes I do have KernelEx installed.

So I can go to 2.0.8.
I tried 2.1.5 but it would not install.

Im typing this on 98se. Thats all I use!


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Old March 7th 16, 07:23 AM posted to microsoft.public.win98.gen_discussion
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On Tue, 01 Mar 2016 20:01:29 -0500, 98 Guy wrote:

wrote:

This is interesting. I installed VLC 2.0.5 (32 bit) [from 2012] on
Windows 98se, and it works perfectly.

This version is listed for XP and higher. It's not even supposed to
work on Win 2000.


I've been running VLC 2.x.y on my win-98 systems for years. On the
system I'm typing this on I have version 2.0.8.


Update: I installed 2.0.8. It installed ok, but it will not show videos,
all I get is the audio. I just removed it and went back to 2.0.5. That
does everything I need anyhow.

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Old March 7th 16, 04:06 PM posted to microsoft.public.win98.gen_discussion
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On Mon, 07 Mar 2016 09:36:21 -0500, 98 Guy wrote:

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Update: I installed 2.0.8. It installed ok, but it will not show
videos, all I get is the audio. I just removed it and went back
to 2.0.5. That does everything I need anyhow.


There is a popular codec package (K-lite) that I've installed on my
win-98 systems.

I don't know if it is needed for VLC 2.0.8 to display video on win-98,
but I know many people running XP and higher seem to want or need that
codec package for one reason or another.

Also note that MediaPlayer Classic is another video player that runs on
win-98 (I have version 6.4.8.2) and I find that for 720p and higher
video's that it seems to render video smoother (no or fewer dropped
frames) compared to VLC.


I have K-lite installed.

Media Player Classic is what I have used for years. It's always worked
very well. I installed VLC because it has the ability to extract audio s
from videos and make MP3 songs for my MP3 player. I have seen VLC skip
frames and have delays compared to MPC. Most of that occurs if I'm
loading web pages at the same time, or copying files. But this computer
is 15 years old, and although I have installed the maximum RAM allowed
and have everything set to the limits, the CPU can only handle so much.

One of these days I need to find a newer and faster computer, which will
still run 98. I do have a much newer computer, but there are no drivers
for W98 available. I only use it as a storage machine, with XP
installed. I'm no fan of XP, but for a storage machine it works, and I
could not use that 750gb hard drive on W98 anyhow.


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Old March 7th 16, 06:43 PM posted to microsoft.public.win98.gen_discussion
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But this computer is 15 years old


And it has USB 2 ports?

Or are they USB 1.1?

One of these days I need to find a newer and faster computer, which
will still run 98. I do have a much newer computer, but there are no
drivers for W98 available.


You can install win-98 on many motherboards that have no drivers for the
chipset. You just won't be able to use on-board ethernet (network) port
or on-board sound. But those are possible if you have PCI ethernet and
sound card with win-98 drivers.

I only use it as a storage machine, with XP installed. I'm no fan
of XP, but for a storage machine it works, and I could not use
that 750gb hard drive on W98 anyhow.


I've been using hard drives of 500 gb to 1.5 gb with my win-98 system
for the past 5 to 7 years.

All you need is a motherboard with on-board SIL 3112 or 3114 sata
controller, or VIA chipset, or PCI SATA card with SIL 3112 or 3114
controller. Many via chipsets with SATA controllers have win-98
drivers.

If you want to keep it simple, look for motherboards with Intel 865 or
875 chipsets with AGP slots, and get a SATA-I PCI controller card (2
port or 4 port). SATA-1 controller will be 3112 or 3114 chip (and
win-98 drivers are easily available). In device manager, the SATA
controller will be called "SCSI" controller. In the bios, the SATA
controller is set to Native mode (not IDE or "Legacy" mode). When set
to native mode, the controller will appear to win-98 as a true SATA
controller, and will use SIL driver. This will allow you to use drives
larger than 137 gb.

The 137 gb problem that win-98 has is caused by the IDE driver
(ESDI_506.pdr). Win-98 uses that driver for all IDE drives - including
the situation when the SATA controller is set to "legacy" or "IDE mode"
in the BIOS. So to avoid that problem you set the SATA controller to
Native or SATA mode and use the manufacturer-supplied driver and there
is no more 137 gb limitation. But there has to be win-98 driver for the
SATA controller, and they exist for all SATA type 1 (SATA-I) controller
chips. Newer SATA controllers (like SATA-II or SATA-III) don't have
win-98 drivers.
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Old March 7th 16, 06:45 PM posted to microsoft.public.win98.gen_discussion
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wrote:

But this computer is 15 years old


And it has USB 2 ports?

Or are they USB 1.1?

One of these days I need to find a newer and faster computer, which
will still run 98. I do have a much newer computer, but there are no
drivers for W98 available.


You can install win-98 on many motherboards that have no drivers for the
chipset. You just won't be able to use on-board ethernet (network) port
or on-board sound. But those are possible if you have PCI ethernet and
sound card with win-98 drivers.

I only use it as a storage machine, with XP installed. I'm no fan
of XP, but for a storage machine it works, and I could not use
that 750gb hard drive on W98 anyhow.


I've been using hard drives of 500 gb to 1.5 gb with my win-98 system
for the past 5 to 7 years.

All you need is a motherboard with on-board SIL 3112 or 3114 sata
controller, or VIA chipset, or PCI SATA card with SIL 3112 or 3114
controller. Many via chipsets with SATA controllers have win-98
drivers.

If you want to keep it simple, look for motherboards with Intel 865 or
875 chipsets with AGP slots, and get a SATA-I PCI controller card (2
port or 4 port). SATA-1 controller will be 3112 or 3114 chip (and
win-98 drivers are easily available). In device manager, the SATA
controller will be called "SCSI" controller. In the bios, the SATA
controller is set to Native mode (not IDE or "Legacy" mode). When set
to native mode, the controller will appear to win-98 as a true SATA
controller, and will use SIL driver. This will allow you to use drives
larger than 137 gb.

The 137 gb problem that win-98 has is caused by the IDE driver
(ESDI_506.pdr). Win-98 uses that driver for all IDE drives - including
the situation when the SATA controller is set to "legacy" or "IDE mode"
in the BIOS. So to avoid that problem you set the SATA controller to
Native or SATA mode and use the manufacturer-supplied driver and there
is no more 137 gb limitation. But there has to be win-98 driver for the
SATA controller, and they exist for all SATA type 1 (SATA-I) controller
chips. Newer SATA controllers (like SATA-II or SATA-III) don't have
win-98 drivers.
 




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