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Noel, since I often need to reinstall Windows due to one problem or another,
I need to be familiar with how to use the tools to get things up and running again. (At least viruses and spyware are not the problem. My system is clean!) IE6remov ---------- This is the tool you recommend to use BEFORE reinstalling Me (assuming I can boot into Windows) to remove IE6SP1. Does it run only in Windows Mode or will it work in Safe Mode? What do I do if I cannot uninstall IE6 first, as in the case when I got the error "Could not load Explorer.exe. You must reinstall Windows." I could not get into either Windows Mode or Safe Mode, and reinstalling from DOS was the only option. Would IEremov ever be used AFTER reinstalling Me to remove IE6SP1, or do you recommend IEradicator for that job? Let me know when you have a chance to review that tool. IEradicator ----------- This would be the tool you recommend to use AFTER reinstalling Me. Does it run only in Windows Mode or will it work in Safe Mode? Would this tool need to be run at all if IE6remov had been run BEFORE the reinstall, or only if there were "version soup" problems after the reinstall? Would IEradicator ever work BEFORE reinstalling WinMe, or would you not recommend that? The IEradicator README states that: "The only way to restore the web-view desktop features is to install 98lite Professional or 98lite Free Preview (http://litePC.com) and use the "ShellSwap" feature." Does this mean that I'll lose the html preview features in Windows Explorer after I run IEradicator? That I won't be able to see my custom html folder messages or preview pictures and files? That all the icons on the right side of the screen will be flush against the margin rather than off to the right as is normally? When Explorer gets corrupted like that, generally the only way to fix it is to do a system restore or reinstall Windows. I won't be able to do a system restore, because system restore will be messed up by IEradicator and all the restore points will be no good. The README also states that IEradicator deletes the following folders and their contents (English): %root%\program files\internet explorer %root%\program files\uninstall information %windir%\application data\microsoft\internet explorer %windir%\application data\microsoft\welcome %windir%\catroot %windir%\cookies %windir%\desktop\online services %windir%\downloaded program files %windir%\favorites %windir%\history %windir%\java %windir%\subscriptions %windir%\temporary internet files %windir%\web %windir%\system\oobe %windir%\system\catroot %windir%\occache %root%\program files\common files\triedit This means I'll have to add everything back to my Quick Launch in the taskbar. Since Java is listed, does that mean it completely removes the Java Virtual Machine (or the Java2 runtime if you've upgraded to that instead)? The VM3810 is only an update, isn't it? Doesn't it require a previous version of VM (like the one that came in WinMe) to be on there first? I think I'll also have to reinstall Macromedia Shockwave and Flash since Downloaded Program Files will be wiped out, as well as the ActiveX controls for Housecall, Panda Active Scan, BitDefender Online Scan, and my other online security sites. I'd definitely better back up my Favorites, because IEradicator will wipe all of them out, and I've got at least 5000 sites in there! Since C:\Program Files\Common Files is shown, does that mean I'd also better back up my Outlook Express stationery? Many of those are custom. Since I'm not a programmer and not very knowledgeable about code, it took me a lot of trial and error to find the right HTML syntax to customize a lot of those stationeries. Will IEradicator search my hard drive and wipe out all the (.htm) and (.mht) files I have saved there? I hope not. I've saved several web pages from Microsoft and other hardware and software sites. I don't mean where you view web pages offline in C:\Windows\Offline Web Pages. (Those will probably be wiped out.) I mean where you are on a web page and select File - Save As and then choose a location to save the page and then choose Files Of Type (web page complete .htm/.html, web page archive .mht, or html only ..htm/.html). Before I attempt to run IEradicator, certain programs that depend on IE (and others that don't) may need to be uninstalled first. Your web site mentions a few. I have not had time to write the post regarding my Belarc Advisor results, but I need to do that soon because I think it's important to the issues at hand. I have questions about the status of some of the hotfixes shown and wonder if some of them need to be uninstalled before I do anything with IEradicator. I'll try to get back to you later today about that. Outlook Express and Net Framework 1.0 and 1.1 are among the ones I'm concerned about. ----------------- Outlook Express ----------------- Your web page "Uninstalling & Reinstalling IE in Me" states that: "[Y]ou need to Uninstall OE6 from the Add/Remove Programs Wizard BEFORE removing IE6 (the uninstall won't work properly if there's no OE5 data available) - so it's probably best to do that now, especially if you're not planning on reinstalling IE6 immediately. Remember to reboot after the uninstall!" I have no OE5 data (or corrupt OE5 data), so OE6 may or may not uninstall from Control Panel. If it does, there may be no files in my Outlook Express folder or no Outlook Express folder. If it does not, how do I get OE out of there? IEradicator documentation leads me to believe that it only removes IE, not OE. When I reinstall IE, I'm afraid IE may not put those OE files back in or it may not install them completely, as was the case this time. How else do I get OE back in there? My Outlook Express mail store folders are no longer saved in C:\Windows\Application Data\Identities. I have them saved in a folder in My Documents. I have two separate identities, one for mail (Main Identity) and one for newsgroups. Will they be wiped out at that location, or should I back them up to a second place, just to be safe, before trying to remove IE or OE? How would you suggest backing up my Windows Address Book? Without OE, it will be corrupted and all the contacts will be gone. -------------------------- Windows Media Player 9 -------------------------- Are there any tools you know of that will remove Windows Media Player 9 before a WinMe uninstall (or after a reinstall if it's corrupted), or do I just delete the wmploc.dll file and that's it? Your web site "Reinstalling Me" states that: "You first need to remove "Windows Media Player 9" (WMP9), if installed. Use "System Restore" to remove it; or if that's not possible, then delete the file "C:\Windows\System\wmploc.dll". This prevents the "VERX" error, which will cause the re-install to fail." That may be the reason I got the SUWIN error at 60-65% during the last Windows reinstall. I could not find wmploc.dll to delete it. I had to click IGNORE 50 times for Windows Setup to continue. The result was that I had no working WMP 7.1. After WMP 9 was reinstalled, all the Windows Updates for WMP installed fine. Belarc Advisor states that everything WMP related has a green check mark, which means they are properly installed and verified. I'm surprised, considering all the trouble I had with WMP. At least I don't have any red X's with Belarc in any of the categories, but I do have some blanks under Net Framework, IE, and OE, which means there's not enough information to verify those hotfixes. I had difficulty getting either version of Net Framework to install to begin with, and had to consult the Microsoft Knowledge Base to get them installed. But let's save that for my next post. ---------------------------- Later Versions of Windows ---------------------------- Will there be "version soup" problems also with Win2000 or XP? Everyone needs to reinstall the operating system at some point, and that always puts an older version overtop a newer one. How do those operating systems handle reinstalls? (Just curious) That's all for now. It's 4am. I'm going to get some sleep and get back to you later about the Belarc questions and Net Framework so you can tell me which things need to be uninstalled and reinstalled before/after running IEradicator. I'll also email you later about the broken links on your web site. I have more questions to come, but one post at a time. This is my chance to ask and learn. Thanks to you and thanks to everyone for being so patient and helpful. -- ForestSpirit "Noel Paton" wrote in message ... The IE6Remov.zip is a little utility for fooling the OS into thinking that IE6 is no longer present, so that a reinstall of ME works properly, it's not a tool I've ever personally used (I really must find time to do it, since the author has since died) IERadicator is a well-known tool for ripping out the whole of all versions of IE on Win9x systems - make sure that you follow the instructions to the letter, or you're likely to end up ripping out too much! This resolves all known 'version soup' problems in ME, and enables you to then install whatever version of IE you prefer - I would recommend that you install IE6SP1. |
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It should never be necessary to reinstall ME over itself - please remember that first and foremost!!! If you're patient, then you learn a lot more about how to protect your PC and data by repairing problems than you do by reinstalling - and frequently, as you're finding out, it's a lot quicker and less hassle. a Reinstall over-the-top is a last resort - only to be tried after all else (except a clean install) has been tried and failed, The 'cannot find explorer.exe' error is a common one, and is often fixed quickly and easily without reinstalling window IE6Remov is specifically for use prior to a reinstall of ME - and not for use at any other time! IERadicator is for whenever you have a need to remove root-and-branch a version of IE, for whatever reason. There are side-effects to this that mean that I would consider it a poor long-term solution to anything, but for the purpose for which we're using it here, it's the best tool around. Please read what's on the website - most people who've used it have found that it works fine, and their system is back up and running in under an hour after starting the process. Those who've had problems didn't follow the instruction properly, as we discovered in troubleshooting the problems later. Yes you need to back up ALL your data - there's always a possibility that something could go drastically wrong (but you should be doing that as a matter of routine anyway?), most especially your Favourites and any critical cookies you have. WRT Outlook Express - In my experience, using this process doesn't affect OE, since it's not uninstalled by IERadicator, but again - back up first. HTM and MHT files should not be affected, unless they are in the deleted folders. WRT other OS's - each has their own foibles, and ME appears to be unique in having the problem that reinstalling the OS fails to properly restore the IE function - perhaps there was something missed in the Beta-testing of IE6, and MS decided that it wasn't viable to fix it. If you couldn't find the WMPLOC.DLL file earlier, perhaps it was because you were unable to see hidden or system files - it should be in the C:\Windows\System folder HTH -- Noel Paton (MS-MVP 2002-2005, Windows) Nil Carborundum Illegitemi http://www.btinternet.com/~winnoel/millsrpch.htm http://tinyurl.com/6oztj Please read http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm on how to post messages to NG's "ForestSpirit" wrote in message ... Noel, since I often need to reinstall Windows due to one problem or another, I need to be familiar with how to use the tools to get things up and running again. (At least viruses and spyware are not the problem. My system is clean!) IE6remov ---------- This is the tool you recommend to use BEFORE reinstalling Me (assuming I can boot into Windows) to remove IE6SP1. Does it run only in Windows Mode or will it work in Safe Mode? What do I do if I cannot uninstall IE6 first, as in the case when I got the error "Could not load Explorer.exe. You must reinstall Windows." I could not get into either Windows Mode or Safe Mode, and reinstalling from DOS was the only option. Would IEremov ever be used AFTER reinstalling Me to remove IE6SP1, or do you recommend IEradicator for that job? Let me know when you have a chance to review that tool. IEradicator ----------- This would be the tool you recommend to use AFTER reinstalling Me. Does it run only in Windows Mode or will it work in Safe Mode? Would this tool need to be run at all if IE6remov had been run BEFORE the reinstall, or only if there were "version soup" problems after the reinstall? Would IEradicator ever work BEFORE reinstalling WinMe, or would you not recommend that? The IEradicator README states that: "The only way to restore the web-view desktop features is to install 98lite Professional or 98lite Free Preview (http://litePC.com) and use the "ShellSwap" feature." Does this mean that I'll lose the html preview features in Windows Explorer after I run IEradicator? That I won't be able to see my custom html folder messages or preview pictures and files? That all the icons on the right side of the screen will be flush against the margin rather than off to the right as is normally? When Explorer gets corrupted like that, generally the only way to fix it is to do a system restore or reinstall Windows. I won't be able to do a system restore, because system restore will be messed up by IEradicator and all the restore points will be no good. The README also states that IEradicator deletes the following folders and their contents (English): %root%\program files\internet explorer %root%\program files\uninstall information %windir%\application data\microsoft\internet explorer %windir%\application data\microsoft\welcome %windir%\catroot %windir%\cookies %windir%\desktop\online services %windir%\downloaded program files %windir%\favorites %windir%\history %windir%\java %windir%\subscriptions %windir%\temporary internet files %windir%\web %windir%\system\oobe %windir%\system\catroot %windir%\occache %root%\program files\common files\triedit This means I'll have to add everything back to my Quick Launch in the taskbar. Since Java is listed, does that mean it completely removes the Java Virtual Machine (or the Java2 runtime if you've upgraded to that instead)? The VM3810 is only an update, isn't it? Doesn't it require a previous version of VM (like the one that came in WinMe) to be on there first? I think I'll also have to reinstall Macromedia Shockwave and Flash since Downloaded Program Files will be wiped out, as well as the ActiveX controls for Housecall, Panda Active Scan, BitDefender Online Scan, and my other online security sites. I'd definitely better back up my Favorites, because IEradicator will wipe all of them out, and I've got at least 5000 sites in there! Since C:\Program Files\Common Files is shown, does that mean I'd also better back up my Outlook Express stationery? Many of those are custom. Since I'm not a programmer and not very knowledgeable about code, it took me a lot of trial and error to find the right HTML syntax to customize a lot of those stationeries. Will IEradicator search my hard drive and wipe out all the (.htm) and (.mht) files I have saved there? I hope not. I've saved several web pages from Microsoft and other hardware and software sites. I don't mean where you view web pages offline in C:\Windows\Offline Web Pages. (Those will probably be wiped out.) I mean where you are on a web page and select File - Save As and then choose a location to save the page and then choose Files Of Type (web page complete .htm/.html, web page archive .mht, or html only .htm/.html). Before I attempt to run IEradicator, certain programs that depend on IE (and others that don't) may need to be uninstalled first. Your web site mentions a few. I have not had time to write the post regarding my Belarc Advisor results, but I need to do that soon because I think it's important to the issues at hand. I have questions about the status of some of the hotfixes shown and wonder if some of them need to be uninstalled before I do anything with IEradicator. I'll try to get back to you later today about that. Outlook Express and Net Framework 1.0 and 1.1 are among the ones I'm concerned about. ----------------- Outlook Express ----------------- Your web page "Uninstalling & Reinstalling IE in Me" states that: "[Y]ou need to Uninstall OE6 from the Add/Remove Programs Wizard BEFORE removing IE6 (the uninstall won't work properly if there's no OE5 data available) - so it's probably best to do that now, especially if you're not planning on reinstalling IE6 immediately. Remember to reboot after the uninstall!" I have no OE5 data (or corrupt OE5 data), so OE6 may or may not uninstall from Control Panel. If it does, there may be no files in my Outlook Express folder or no Outlook Express folder. If it does not, how do I get OE out of there? IEradicator documentation leads me to believe that it only removes IE, not OE. When I reinstall IE, I'm afraid IE may not put those OE files back in or it may not install them completely, as was the case this time. How else do I get OE back in there? My Outlook Express mail store folders are no longer saved in C:\Windows\Application Data\Identities. I have them saved in a folder in My Documents. I have two separate identities, one for mail (Main Identity) and one for newsgroups. Will they be wiped out at that location, or should I back them up to a second place, just to be safe, before trying to remove IE or OE? How would you suggest backing up my Windows Address Book? Without OE, it will be corrupted and all the contacts will be gone. -------------------------- Windows Media Player 9 -------------------------- Are there any tools you know of that will remove Windows Media Player 9 before a WinMe uninstall (or after a reinstall if it's corrupted), or do I just delete the wmploc.dll file and that's it? Your web site "Reinstalling Me" states that: "You first need to remove "Windows Media Player 9" (WMP9), if installed. Use "System Restore" to remove it; or if that's not possible, then delete the file "C:\Windows\System\wmploc.dll". This prevents the "VERX" error, which will cause the re-install to fail." That may be the reason I got the SUWIN error at 60-65% during the last Windows reinstall. I could not find wmploc.dll to delete it. I had to click IGNORE 50 times for Windows Setup to continue. The result was that I had no working WMP 7.1. After WMP 9 was reinstalled, all the Windows Updates for WMP installed fine. Belarc Advisor states that everything WMP related has a green check mark, which means they are properly installed and verified. I'm surprised, considering all the trouble I had with WMP. At least I don't have any red X's with Belarc in any of the categories, but I do have some blanks under Net Framework, IE, and OE, which means there's not enough information to verify those hotfixes. I had difficulty getting either version of Net Framework to install to begin with, and had to consult the Microsoft Knowledge Base to get them installed. But let's save that for my next post. ---------------------------- Later Versions of Windows ---------------------------- Will there be "version soup" problems also with Win2000 or XP? Everyone needs to reinstall the operating system at some point, and that always puts an older version overtop a newer one. How do those operating systems handle reinstalls? (Just curious) That's all for now. It's 4am. I'm going to get some sleep and get back to you later about the Belarc questions and Net Framework so you can tell me which things need to be uninstalled and reinstalled before/after running IEradicator. I'll also email you later about the broken links on your web site. I have more questions to come, but one post at a time. This is my chance to ask and learn. Thanks to you and thanks to everyone for being so patient and helpful. -- ForestSpirit "Noel Paton" wrote in message ... The IE6Remov.zip is a little utility for fooling the OS into thinking that IE6 is no longer present, so that a reinstall of ME works properly, it's not a tool I've ever personally used (I really must find time to do it, since the author has since died) IERadicator is a well-known tool for ripping out the whole of all versions of IE on Win9x systems - make sure that you follow the instructions to the letter, or you're likely to end up ripping out too much! This resolves all known 'version soup' problems in ME, and enables you to then install whatever version of IE you prefer - I would recommend that you install IE6SP1. |
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I've learned how to back up account settings, email messages, news messages,
email/news store folders, and the Windows Address Book in Outlook Express (for each identity), but how do I back up Message Rules? |
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Not certain, since I use very few - have a look here and see of something
helps http://insideoe.tomsterdam.com/ -- Noel Paton (MS-MVP 2002-2005, Windows) Nil Carborundum Illegitemi http://www.btinternet.com/~winnoel/millsrpch.htm http://tinyurl.com/6oztj Please read http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm on how to post messages to NG's "ForestSpirit" wrote in message ... I've learned how to back up account settings, email messages, news messages, email/news store folders, and the Windows Address Book in Outlook Express (for each identity), but how do I back up Message Rules? |
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Take a look at the KB article :-
OLEXP: How to Backup and Restore Outlook Express Blocked Senders List and Other Mail Rules http://support.microsoft.com/kb/276511/EN-US/ Haven't tried it myself - let us know if it helps. Mart "ForestSpirit" wrote in message ... I've learned how to back up account settings, email messages, news messages, email/news store folders, and the Windows Address Book in Outlook Express (for each identity), but how do I back up Message Rules? |
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Finding, Backing Up & Moving OE Files & Settings
http://www.okinfoweb.com/moe/general/gen_015.htm Inside OE: Backup and Restore http://www.insideoutlookexpress.com/backup/ OLEXP: How to Backup and Restore Outlook Express Blocked Senders List and Other Mail Rules http://support.microsoft.com/kb/276511/EN-US/ "ForestSpirit" wrote in message ... How do I back up Outlook Express Message Rules? |
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Reinstalling Windows Me Over Itself ------------------------------------- "Noel Paton" wrote in message ... It should never be necessary to reinstall ME over itself - please remember that first and foremost!!! Wonderful. These newsgroups are teaching me so much, and so are you, Noel. ------------------------------------------------------------------- ERROR: "Cannot load explorer.exe. You must reinstall Windows." ------------------------------------------------------------------- The 'cannot find explorer.exe' error is a common one, and is often fixed quickly and easily without reinstalling windows. Great. Please tell me the fix so I can save it to a text file. Also tell me whether the fix is applicable to any other operating systems (95,98se,XP). ----------------------------- Uninstalling Outlook Express ----------------------------- WRT Outlook Express - In my experience, using this process doesn't affect OE, since it's not uninstalled by IERadicator, but again - back up first. Previous posts taught me how to back up the various OE settings. What is the best way to uninstall Outlook Express? Since IEradicator will remove Internet Explorer *completely*, should I also *completely* remove Outlook Express? Since it is "version soup," I assume the *complete* uninstall would be required. The following web page describes three methods for uninstalling Outlook Express. http://www.okinfoweb.com/moe/general/gen_036.htm Under the circumstances, I think choice 3 is best. Do you agree? --------------------------- Internet Explorer Sites List --------------------------- Is there any way to back up the long list of sites in the Trusted and Restricted Zones in Internet Explorer? The sites are listed in Internet Options in Control Panel and in the Windows Registry. While the list of Trusted sites is relatively short, there are *thousands* of sites in my Restricted Zone. At least three programs add entries to the Restricted Zone for Internet Explorer. All three programs are easy to uninstall and reinstall should they become corrupted. I have disabled their integration and protection options and removed their startup entries from MSCONFIG. 1. IE-SPYAD 2. SpywareBlaster 3.2 3. SpybotSD 1.4 b2 The sites and domains, regardless of whether they are Trusted or Restricted, are stored in two registry keys. If I just export these two keys, will that do it? HKEY_CURRENT_USER/Software/Microsoft/Windows/Current Version/Internet Settings/ZoneMap/Domains HKEY_USERS/.DEFAULT/Software/Microsoft/Windows/Current Version/Internet Settings/ZoneMap/Domains VALUE DATA (Hexadecimal) for each site/domain. 2=Trusted Site 4=Restricted Site The Windows hosts file has been backed up safely in more than one location. ---------------------- Preparing for Surgery ---------------------- Please read what's on the website - most people who've used it have found that it works fine, and their system is back up and running in under an hour after starting the process. Those who've had problems didn't follow the instructions properly, as we discovered in troubleshooting the problems later. Noel, I am very happy to know that many others who followed your instructions were able to get IE/OE back up and running within an hour, but every situation is unique. IEradicator is a VERY powerful program that can do a LOT of damage, and it is best to get all concerns addressed before using it. This is the first time I've done this, and I want to get it right the first time. It'll be worth it once everything is fixed, no matter how long that takes. Education and precautions now may reduce the troubleshooting later. Thanks for understanding. Noel Paton's "Uninstalling & Reinstalling IE in ME" http://winnoel.users.btopenworld.com/ReInIE.htm After re-reading the instructions on your site thoroughly, there are still questions. There are many programs and Windows components that will be affected by the removal of IE which are not mentioned on your web site. I must determine which affected programs and updates can remain installed, and merely have certain settings changed or disabled, versus which programs and updates must be completely uninstalled before running IEradicator. If possible, I want to reduce the number of programs that must be completely uninstalled and reinstalled (more about that in separate posts). Tearing down and rebuilding IE/OE, and all programs and Windows components affected by this, is major Windows surgery. Preparation is key. This -- where we are now -- is the "preparation stage," backing things up and "preparing" the computer to run IEradicator while minimizing data loss, conflicts, and potential complications. There is a lot of work involved before and after. I do not mind the work so long as everything will be fixed. Many settings cannot easily be backed up with a particular file or registry key, so I must manually go into several areas and write them all down in a text file. I've done a lot of customizing. Once the settings are written down, then it's easier to recustomize them after IE, OE and the other programs are reinstalled. Determining which Windows Updates will need to be reinstalled must also be done. Belarc will need to be run again at some point after IE/OE are reinstalled. While waiting for responses to some questions, I will ask other questions in separate posts. Responses can be nested to the appropriate message, kind of like threads within threads, rather than just added to the very last post in the thread and going even farther to the right. I'll be able to find things easier that way. In the mean time, I'm also downloading all the updates that will probably need to be reinstalled (while I still have a browser!). Plus, I have a life other than the computer. I'm going to watch some movies while I'm waiting! |
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Belarc Advisor 6.1f http://www.belarc.com/free_download.html Installed Microsoft Hotfixes ---------------------------- Legend: (C) Marks a HotFix that verifies correctly (X) Marks a HotFix that fails verification (Failing hotfixes need to be reinstalled) ( ) Unmarked HotFixes lack the data to allow verification Notes: Since I can't type a check mark, I am using (C) instead. Since I can't type a blank space, I am using ( ) instead. This is only the most relevant portion of the Belarc report. Nothing below has an (X), but there are some ( ). Comments: I don't know if there is supposed to be a mark next to 1.0 and 1.1 of .NET Framework or just for their hotfixes. I don't know if there is supposed to be a mark for SP1 under Internet Explorer or just for its hotfixes. I do not understand the -25 after Q329414. ..NET Framework ( ) 1.0 ( ) S867461 on 12/29/2004 ( ) 1.1 ( ) S867460 on 1/9/2005 DataAccess ( ) Q329414-25 on 1/9/2005 Internet Explorer ( ) SP1 ( ) Q887797 ( ) Q889293 MSXML4 ( ) Q317244 on 1/9/2005 Windows Media Player (C) WM828026 (C) KB837272 WinME (C) UPD273017 (C) UPD273991 (C) UPD290700 (C) UPD329115 (C) UPDQ823559 (C) UPD890175 ------------------------------- ..NET FRAMEWORK 1.0/1.1 (and their service packs) http://msdn.microsoft.com/netframewo...s/default.aspx ------------------------------- From the above Belarc info, NF 1.0/1.1 may "lack the data to allow verification" since there is nothing beside them or beside their hotfixes. Maybe there isn't supposed to be a mark beside them, just beside their hotfixes. What do you think? Should I completely uninstall NF1.0 and 1.1 and reinstall them after IE is fixed, or should I leave them alone? There are entries for .NET Framework in Internet Options, so I don't know how .NET Framework will be affected by the removal of IE. The reason both .NET Framework versions are installed is because some of my programs require 1.0 and others require 1.1. If I must uninstall and reinstall both .NET Frameworks, I may need help reinstalling them. There was an error message last time, and I had to consult the Microsoft Knowledge Base to get it to install. (Whatever error it was, it was an easy fix.) ------------ MDAC 2.8 ------------ This will have to be reinstalled after IE is reinstalled. http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/d...DisplayLang=en ------------------------------------------- JAVA VIRUAL MACHINE (VM) 3810 ------------------------------------------- This will have to be reinstalled after IE is reinstalled. http://v4.windowsupdate.microsoft.co...en/default.asp ---------------------- Jet40SP7 v Jet40SP8 ---------------------- Will SP8 work on Windows Me? It isn't specifically listed as a supported OS, and there is not a separate download for Windows Me. If there is, where is it? If not, then SP7 is still the latest for Windows Me. Jet 4.0 Service Pack 8 (SP8) for Windows 95/98/NT 4.0 (KB829558) http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/d...displaylang=en File Name: Jet40SP8_9xNT.exe Download Size: 3782 KB Date Published: 12/9/2003 Version: 4.0.7328 Supported OS: Windows 98 Second Edition, Windows NT This update applies to: Windows 95, Windows 98, and Windows NT 4.0 -- Jet 4.0 Service Pack 7 (SP7) for Windows Millennium Edition http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/d...displaylang=en File Name: Jet40SP7_WMe.exe Download Size: 3559 KB Date Published: 6/25/2003 Version: 4.0.7328 Supported OS: Windows ME |
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NORTON SYSTEMWORKS 2004 PRO -Norton AntiVirus -Norton CleanSweep -Norton Ghost -Norton Password Manager -Norton Utilities WINFAX PRO 10.03 -------------------------------------------- If you're using Norton Software of ANY kind, I recommend UNINSTALLING it before proceeding!!! Please explain why you think ALL Norton programs must be uninstalled, rather than just disabling their options and their startup entries in MSCONFIG, before running IEradicator. I assume you have some troubleshooting experience with Norton, so tell me what specific problems you anticipate. There may be workarounds. Uninstalling and reinstalling WinFax is simple, but I'd rather not uninstall SystemWorks due to possible problems activating it again after reinstall and the complexities of uninstalling, reinstalling, and reconfiguring it. If the problems Norton has with IEradicator are just related to virus definition corruption and email protection, that's an easy fix. The removal of the BHO in Internet Explorer may also be repairable. Most of Norton's protections can be disabled by options within the suite, and its MSCONFIG entries can be unchecked temporarily. 1. Symantec Core LC (Norton AntiVirus, not sure what it does) 2. NPROTECT (Norton Protected Recycle Bin) *There may be 2 MSCONFIG entries. Disable both.* 3. QD FastAndSafe (Norton CleanSweep/One Button Checkup/WinDoctor) *There may be 2 MSCONFIG entries. Disable both.* 4. ccApp (Common Client/Norton AntiVirus AutoProtect & Email Check) 5. AcctMgr (Norton Password Manager) 6. GhostStartTrayApp (Norton Ghost System Tray Access) 7. ScriptBlocking (Norton AntiVirus ScriptBlocking) 8. ccEvtMgr (Common Client/Event Manager for scheduling scans) 9. ccSetMgr (Common Client/Norton AntiVirus, not sure what it does) 10. GhostStartService (Norton Ghost) 11. CSINJECT.EXE (Norton CleanSweep/SmartSweep, monitors installs) 12. SymTray - Norton SystemWorks (groups Norton tray icons) Is there any way Norton could remain installed while we remove and reinstall IE/OE -- if I don't try to open or run any of its programs until IE/OE are reinstalled? I've never had any problems with SystemWorks I haven't been able to fix and there has been no reason to uninstall it. The problems I've had have been with IE, OE, Windows, or other programs. If uninstalling Norton first is the ONLY way (if it will get screwed up royally regardless of any precautions taken), then I will (deep sigh) have to uninstall it, as I have uninstalled Microsoft Office. After IE is fixed and Norton is reinstalled, activation will be the next hurdle. If it fails, that will mean being on hold for a Symantec customer service agent for 30 minutes or more to get them to reset my product key count so the program can be reactivated. If they won't reset it then I can't activate it. It will have to be removed. I'll have to go back to Norton SystemWorks 2003, which does not require activation but does not have Norton Password Manager. Going back to it will mean a lot of extra surgery to the operating system and Windows registry to delete all NSW 2004 references manually, an unfortunate but often necessary step. That's another reason why I don't want to uninstall SystemWorks! Please tell me your thoughts on this. |
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