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Win ME service packs...
Hello, I was wondering if anyone knows where I can download the latest service pack for Windows ME 4.90.3000 for offline installation? Thanks to anyone who can help. Ismael |
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Win ME service packs...
There is no Service Pack for ME - the nearest to is was the Security CD
issued in Feb 2004 (and since withdrawn), that covered all active OS's at the time. -- Noel Paton (MS-MVP 2002-2006, Windows) Nil Carborundum Illegitemi http://www.crashfixpc.com/millsrpch.htm http://tinyurl.com/6oztj Please read http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm on how to post messages to NG's "Ismael" wrote in message ... Hello, I was wondering if anyone knows where I can download the latest service pack for Windows ME 4.90.3000 for offline installation? Thanks to anyone who can help. Ismael |
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Win ME service packs...
One wonders if Ismael (let's call him that) thinks a mere patch is a
'Service Pack'? Meanwhile I wish I'd ordered 10 - not 5 - donuts from Tesco! Now *that's* a Service Pack! -- Shane ------------------------------------ The Sugitive Ch. 1: http://tinyurl.com/bcevp Ch. 2: http://tinyurl.com/ag92o Ch. 3: Coming to an URL near you soon! ------------------------------------ "Noel Paton" wrote in message ... There is no Service Pack for ME - the nearest to is was the Security CD issued in Feb 2004 (and since withdrawn), that covered all active OS's at the time. -- Noel Paton (MS-MVP 2002-2006, Windows) Nil Carborundum Illegitemi http://www.crashfixpc.com/millsrpch.htm http://tinyurl.com/6oztj Please read http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm on how to post messages to NG's "Ismael" wrote in message ... Hello, I was wondering if anyone knows where I can download the latest service pack for Windows ME 4.90.3000 for offline installation? Thanks to anyone who can help. Ismael |
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Win ME service packs...
Thanks for the info...I guess the only way to update Win ME is on the
Microsoft update website...but is there a way to stream line the process? I would like to download all the updates to my hard drive and at a future date should I need to do a clean install of Win ME these updates would be available offline. I could then check the MS update site again and see if there are any further updates at that time. To my understanding the service packs are released every so often so that a person does not have to install each update individually. The released service packs are meant to combine all updates into one installation (current updates as to when the service pack was released) Am I right about this? Any solutions or suggestions out there on how I can combine all current updates into one installation package and add future updates to this install pack or is there another (better, less time consuming) way of doing this? I would like to be able to do this with all Windows operating systems. I also believe the update process would be faster since you don't have to download the updates each and every time you need them, also having the MS update website scan your OS for needed updates makes the update process that much more time consuming. Bottom line: I would like to download these updates offline, check new updates online and then add them my current collection of updates. I would like a one click install process and the ability to add these updates to the one click install process. Thanks to anyone who can help, Ismael "Noel Paton" wrote in message ... There is no Service Pack for ME - the nearest to is was the Security CD issued in Feb 2004 (and since withdrawn), that covered all active OS's at the time. -- Noel Paton (MS-MVP 2002-2006, Windows) Nil Carborundum Illegitemi http://www.crashfixpc.com/millsrpch.htm http://tinyurl.com/6oztj Please read http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm on how to post messages to NG's "Ismael" wrote in message ... Hello, I was wondering if anyone knows where I can download the latest service pack for Windows ME 4.90.3000 for offline installation? Thanks to anyone who can help. Ismael |
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Win ME service packs...
Service Packs are normally only released for the NT series of OS's (that's
one of the things that they pay the extra for!) You can check your installed list in Windows Updates, and then download the updates for offline installation from the Windows Updates Catalog (use the Personalise option in Windows Updates to see the link) Note that any update package that you create may only be applicable to your current hardware! -- Noel Paton (MS-MVP 2002-2006, Windows) Nil Carborundum Illegitemi http://www.crashfixpc.com/millsrpch.htm http://tinyurl.com/6oztj Please read http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm on how to post messages to NG's "Ismael" wrote in message ... Thanks for the info...I guess the only way to update Win ME is on the Microsoft update website...but is there a way to stream line the process? I would like to download all the updates to my hard drive and at a future date should I need to do a clean install of Win ME these updates would be available offline. I could then check the MS update site again and see if there are any further updates at that time. To my understanding the service packs are released every so often so that a person does not have to install each update individually. The released service packs are meant to combine all updates into one installation (current updates as to when the service pack was released) Am I right about this? Any solutions or suggestions out there on how I can combine all current updates into one installation package and add future updates to this install pack or is there another (better, less time consuming) way of doing this? I would like to be able to do this with all Windows operating systems. I also believe the update process would be faster since you don't have to download the updates each and every time you need them, also having the MS update website scan your OS for needed updates makes the update process that much more time consuming. Bottom line: I would like to download these updates offline, check new updates online and then add them my current collection of updates. I would like a one click install process and the ability to add these updates to the one click install process. Thanks to anyone who can help, Ismael "Noel Paton" wrote in message ... There is no Service Pack for ME - the nearest to is was the Security CD issued in Feb 2004 (and since withdrawn), that covered all active OS's at the time. -- Noel Paton (MS-MVP 2002-2006, Windows) Nil Carborundum Illegitemi http://www.crashfixpc.com/millsrpch.htm http://tinyurl.com/6oztj Please read http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm on how to post messages to NG's "Ismael" wrote in message ... Hello, I was wondering if anyone knows where I can download the latest service pack for Windows ME 4.90.3000 for offline installation? Thanks to anyone who can help. Ismael |
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Win ME service packs...
As Noel said, such (admittedly very useful) service packs are not available
for Win ME. The nearest is the CD of which he speaks - and it is worth getting hold of as it condenses a lot of individual file running time into 5 minutes max. But it updates to Nov '03, so all subsequent updates have to be installed seperately. NT systems - as ever, demonstrating Microsoft's corporate system administrator bias - have the tool QChain.exe, with which updates can be strung together and run with a single batch file, but it doesn't run on 9x systems. Other than getting hold of the cd, your best bet would be either updating Win ME then making an image of it, then in future installing *that*, or writing a batch that installs updates, rebooting in between (the need to reboot is a consequence of multiple versions of the same filename being set for installation on reboot - via wininet.ini - and the wrong one being selected, which is what NT's QChain.exe get's around). I did an installer based on the latter suggestion once. Apart from the initial workload, it is pretty effective. It's easy to set the batch to resume after each boot, to carry on where it left off. Then you can put the whole thing on a cd and have a poor man's Service Pack. But a lot of work to build in the first place. Shane Ismael wrote: Thanks for the info...I guess the only way to update Win ME is on the Microsoft update website...but is there a way to stream line the process? I would like to download all the updates to my hard drive and at a future date should I need to do a clean install of Win ME these updates would be available offline. I could then check the MS update site again and see if there are any further updates at that time. To my understanding the service packs are released every so often so that a person does not have to install each update individually. The released service packs are meant to combine all updates into one installation (current updates as to when the service pack was released) Am I right about this? Any solutions or suggestions out there on how I can combine all current updates into one installation package and add future updates to this install pack or is there another (better, less time consuming) way of doing this? I would like to be able to do this with all Windows operating systems. I also believe the update process would be faster since you don't have to download the updates each and every time you need them, also having the MS update website scan your OS for needed updates makes the update process that much more time consuming. Bottom line: I would like to download these updates offline, check new updates online and then add them my current collection of updates. I would like a one click install process and the ability to add these updates to the one click install process. Thanks to anyone who can help, Ismael "Noel Paton" wrote in message ... There is no Service Pack for ME - the nearest to is was the Security CD issued in Feb 2004 (and since withdrawn), that covered all active OS's at the time. -- Noel Paton (MS-MVP 2002-2006, Windows) Nil Carborundum Illegitemi http://www.crashfixpc.com/millsrpch.htm http://tinyurl.com/6oztj Please read http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm on how to post messages to NG's "Ismael" wrote in message ... Hello, I was wondering if anyone knows where I can download the latest service pack for Windows ME 4.90.3000 for offline installation? Thanks to anyone who can help. Ismael |
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Win ME service packs...
Thanks Shane...I can see it being a "poor man's Service Pack" and yes I can
see there would be a lot of work to build this. I just wanted to see what the alternatives were to get these updates streamlined and thus less time consuming especially on slower PC machines. Ever think of building these so called "poor man's Service Packs" for all MS operating systems and selling them to the general public...lol? Am I correct to say the writing of the batch file consists of a person who would need to read what each update does and determine if after each individual update, a reboot would be required and thus write it into the batch file so the necessary rebooting takes place before the next update patch is installed. This is where it becomes time consuming. It would be nice to install all update patches that don't require reboots first then install the updates that would need rebooting next and thus only one reboot would occur. Is that possible? Could you provide the step by step process on creating the batch file you made or even better yet provide the batch file as a guideline. Do you know of any good websites you recommend that provide information on creating batch files specifically to run installation update patch files unattended offline? The CD you speak of what is the name of it and where can I get it? Noel mentioned "Security CD issued in Feb 2004 (and since withdrawn)" Why was it withdrawn? Are the updates on the Security CD (as well as from the MS update site) all related to security and nothing to do with program fixes, bugs or enhancements to WinME? Ismael "Shane" wrote in message ... As Noel said, such (admittedly very useful) service packs are not available for Win ME. The nearest is the CD of which he speaks - and it is worth getting hold of as it condenses a lot of individual file running time into 5 minutes max. But it updates to Nov '03, so all subsequent updates have to be installed seperately. NT systems - as ever, demonstrating Microsoft's corporate system administrator bias - have the tool QChain.exe, with which updates can be strung together and run with a single batch file, but it doesn't run on 9x systems. Other than getting hold of the cd, your best bet would be either updating Win ME then making an image of it, then in future installing *that*, or writing a batch that installs updates, rebooting in between (the need to reboot is a consequence of multiple versions of the same filename being set for installation on reboot - via wininet.ini - and the wrong one being selected, which is what NT's QChain.exe get's around). I did an installer based on the latter suggestion once. Apart from the initial workload, it is pretty effective. It's easy to set the batch to resume after each boot, to carry on where it left off. Then you can put the whole thing on a cd and have a poor man's Service Pack. But a lot of work to build in the first place. Shane Ismael wrote: Thanks for the info...I guess the only way to update Win ME is on the Microsoft update website...but is there a way to stream line the process? I would like to download all the updates to my hard drive and at a future date should I need to do a clean install of Win ME these updates would be available offline. I could then check the MS update site again and see if there are any further updates at that time. To my understanding the service packs are released every so often so that a person does not have to install each update individually. The released service packs are meant to combine all updates into one installation (current updates as to when the service pack was released) Am I right about this? Any solutions or suggestions out there on how I can combine all current updates into one installation package and add future updates to this install pack or is there another (better, less time consuming) way of doing this? I would like to be able to do this with all Windows operating systems. I also believe the update process would be faster since you don't have to download the updates each and every time you need them, also having the MS update website scan your OS for needed updates makes the update process that much more time consuming. Bottom line: I would like to download these updates offline, check new updates online and then add them my current collection of updates. I would like a one click install process and the ability to add these updates to the one click install process. Thanks to anyone who can help, Ismael "Noel Paton" wrote in message ... There is no Service Pack for ME - the nearest to is was the Security CD issued in Feb 2004 (and since withdrawn), that covered all active OS's at the time. -- Noel Paton (MS-MVP 2002-2006, Windows) Nil Carborundum Illegitemi http://www.crashfixpc.com/millsrpch.htm http://tinyurl.com/6oztj Please read http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm on how to post messages to NG's "Ismael" wrote in message ... Hello, I was wondering if anyone knows where I can download the latest service pack for Windows ME 4.90.3000 for offline installation? Thanks to anyone who can help. Ismael |
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Thanks Shane...I can see it being a "poor man's Service Pack" and yes I
can see there would be a lot of work to build this. I just wanted to see what the alternatives were to get these updates streamlined and thus less time consuming especially on slower PC machines. Yes, *less time-consuming* being the operative term. Some user input will still be required, but that is reduced to an absolute minimum. But, unless the cd (or whatever) is going to be used several times, the initial workload is going to negate the time saved later, no doubt about it. Ever think of building these so called "poor man's Service Packs" for all MS operating systems and selling them to the general public...lol? vbg Am I correct to say the writing of the batch file consists of a person who would need to read what each update does and determine if after each individual update, a reboot would be required and thus write it into the batch file so the necessary rebooting takes place before the next update patch is installed. This is where it becomes time consuming. It would be That would be one way. I'd make a test installation, install each patch in turn and see what happens. When I did this - with NT4.0 - I determined the order to install post-sp6 patches by extracting their files each to a folder of the same name and comparing file dates. nice to install all update patches that don't require reboots first then install the updates that would need rebooting next and thus only one reboot would occur. Is that possible? Could you provide the step by step process No, the reason for the reboots is to overwrite files - during next boot - that are protected when Windows is running. In 9x systems it is not guaranteed that, if several versions with the same filename are queued up, that the most recent will be the one used to update the original. That's what the (itself updated, as the original was not reliable) NT QChain.exe is for. There are a no. of protected files that have been updated more than once. You could, no doubt, get around it by batching or scripting, say to have all but one version of a file deleted from it's temp folder before reboot, or edit the update infs to install only some of it's files, but frankly I think it's far less bother to just have the machine reboot a few times more. on creating the batch file you made or even better yet provide the batch file as a guideline. Do you know of any good websites you recommend that provide information on creating batch files specifically to run installation update patch files unattended offline? As for websites, no, my experience was an entirely self-taught one. I made a cd that installed NT4.0, updated it (there are one hell of a lot of updates for NT4.0!) and then installed the 3rd-party stuff I use as a matter of course. Even without the 3rd-party stuff it would have been a very long file and it's easier to write a seperate batch for each boot. Also, I originally planned to write it in vbs, but in the end decided batch files were capable of more. Anyway, it's easy enough to get it to continue after each reboot, and what I found easiest (though bear in mind I was using Command Processor commands slightly different to those I was most familiar with) was to have the batch make a folder on the hd, then add a file, eg a .txt (to which information could be written for debug purposes, if required) with a particular name. The batch would look for any such files and go to the routine applicable to the newest found. The CD you speak of what is the name of it and where can I get it? Noel mentioned "Security CD issued in Feb 2004 (and since withdrawn)" Why was it withdrawn? Are the updates on the Security CD (as well as from the MS update site) all related to security and nothing to do with program fixes, bugs or enhancements to WinME? Yes, interesting question! The files it installs are listed here (bar those superceding at the time of writing), in the order the cd installs them, with links to articles about them and the files themselves (last time I tested them they still worked). Due to dragging my heels, lack of feedback and MS dropping the cd, I didn't finish the site, but left these pages up: http://website.lineone.net/~shanebeatson/fixlistme.htm. It was largely intended to demonstrate how to run the cd *without* installing the like of Windows Media Player 9 Series or Internet Explorer 6.0 sp1, if the user didn't want to. Microsoft considered such as Security Updates, but I thought it a little cavalier of them *even though I have those installed myself and recommend them*. E-mail me and I may be able to arrange a copy of the cd for you, and I can post you the instructions for editing the infs to avoid installing the aforementioned and more. Actually I think I left those up too. As for examples of the batch(es), I believe I kept that cd for old time's sake (though I threw away the Win 95 and other obsolete OSes such as NT3.51). I'd have to find it (and look at it as, like I said, they're very long!). Shane |
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