Firefox repost

Mike M wrote:
There is no moderator as such for these NGs. Spam and excessive
multi-posts are mainly removed using pre-defined rules and on requests
sent to Microsoft by users. For example I've just asked Microsoft
for the phrase "Hot Czech Girl Chat" be added to the filters. I can
only guess what happened to Shane's post and Harry's reply (which no
doubt included the text of Shane's post) as I can now see neither but
it is possible that it included a phrase that is in the current
filters.

Although this repost included the entire original text...which makes it more
interesting if it is a filter responsible for the removal. Is it also the
brevity of my original post? More than, but not much more than, a couple of
links.


Shane

Shane wrote:

Although this repost included the entire original text...which makes
it more interesting if it is a filter responsible for the removal. Is
it also the brevity of my original post? More than, but not much more
than, a couple of links.

I don't have a clue as to how or why it might have been removed. As you
say, it was very brief
((http://groups.google.com/g/6f17fef7/...53f27918a321)).
I can't help but wonder whether it might have been removed as a result of
"finger trouble" when making a manual deletion as there was nothing in
your post that warranted its removal unless the filters are set to delete
a post where included urls exceed a given proportion of the total post but
from what I know the filters used on the Microsoft newsgroups (by a third
party contractor I might add) are anything but sophisticated and for the
most barely fit for purpose. For example if they were any good we
wouldn't all have been recently invited to contact a "hot Czech chick" as
they would have quickly picked up the post for being an excessive multiple
post let alone spam..
--
Mike

..

I'll resend the original.

Mike M wrote:
Shane wrote:

Although this repost included the entire original text...which makes
it more interesting if it is a filter responsible for the removal. Is
it also the brevity of my original post? More than, but not much more
than, a couple of links.

I don't have a clue as to how or why it might have been removed. As
you say, it was very brief
((http://groups.google.com/g/6f17fef7/...53f27918a321)).
I can't help but wonder whether it might have been removed as a
result of "finger trouble" when making a manual deletion as there was
nothing in your post that warranted its removal unless the filters
are set to delete a post where included urls exceed a given
proportion of the total post but from what I know the filters used on
the Microsoft newsgroups (by a third party contractor I might add)
are anything but sophisticated and for the most barely fit for
purpose. For example if they were any good we wouldn't all have been
recently invited to contact a "hot Czech chick" as they would have
quickly picked up the post for being an excessive multiple post let
alone spam..

FWIW - I have just d/l your 'original' post complete with Harry's reply from
the news.btinternet.com site so it's not been removed from their server(s)
(NB I still also have the originals in my MS News Server archives which I
haven't refreshed)

Mart

Hmm.

And I just synced and got all the versions I posted before syncing the RAID
array (so, about an hour ago).

Now I'm about to set up W7 again, so will be setting up Windows Mail and
Live mail again and we shall see what we shall see.

Is it Spring up there now, Mart? I just noticed the daffodils amongst the
purple figgs and then the bruce (Forsythia) in flower. The sun is shining
and possibly a 3rd cappucino will set me up to gambol down the road in a
bit. I recollect how colourful it must be down Devon way now (the walk from
Steps Bridge to Drewsteignton, beside the River Teign in the NE corner of
Dartmoor is idyllic about now with the woods full of wild daffodils and
garlic, reached by lanes with verges overflowing with yellow primroses.
Especially rewarding if one gets there on a gleaming old four stroke). Yet I
imagine it is still winter north of the Watford Gap.

Perhaps I've already had too much coffee.

Shane

Mart wrote:
FWIW - I have just d/l your 'original' post complete with Harry's
reply from the news.btinternet.com site so it's not been removed from
their server(s) (NB I still also have the originals in my MS News
Server archives which I haven't refreshed)

Mart

Is it Spring up there now, Mart?

Sure is, Shane and the sun is shining (again) here too, although a bit cool
for shirt sleeves. I've noticed a couple of (moulting) wood pigeons still
with their scarves around their necks but no doubt they will have cast them
off in a week or two. Also the couple of robins are still taking their
Benylin but they're not coughing quite so much lately.

Shouldn't complain but we have been a bit light in the rain department for
the past couple of months so I would guess that we could expect a hose-pipe
ban again this year. Last year was only exception for past few years. It's a
bit like the snow, the planners always get caught out, you'd have that they
should be able to work out a strategy by now.

Mart


"Shane" wrote in message
...
Hmm.

And I just synced and got all the versions I posted before syncing the
RAID array (so, about an hour ago).

Now I'm about to set up W7 again, so will be setting up Windows Mail and
Live mail again and we shall see what we shall see.

Is it Spring up there now, Mart? I just noticed the daffodils amongst the
purple figgs and then the bruce (Forsythia) in flower. The sun is shining
and possibly a 3rd cappucino will set me up to gambol down the road in a
bit. I recollect how colourful it must be down Devon way now (the walk
from Steps Bridge to Drewsteignton, beside the River Teign in the NE
corner of Dartmoor is idyllic about now with the woods full of wild
daffodils and garlic, reached by lanes with verges overflowing with yellow
primroses. Especially rewarding if one gets there on a gleaming old four
stroke). Yet I imagine it is still winter north of the Watford Gap.

Perhaps I've already had too much coffee.

Shane

Mart wrote:
FWIW - I have just d/l your 'original' post complete with Harry's
reply from the news.btinternet.com site so it's not been removed from
their server(s) (NB I still also have the originals in my MS News
Server archives which I haven't refreshed)

Mart

Sure fancy some chips (from Neptune's at Edgware)! I'm losing the
post-smoking and being out of it on *codeine excess, but I can see the
finish line now. Though going 100 miles to London might be a bit OTT. They
sure do great fish'n'chips though!

"Heather" wrote in message
...
Hmmm, it is almost midnight and had some liquid refreshment with my shrimp
and chips, so it took me two go-rounds to absorb what you are saying, lol.

Nah, not about to reset this just to see.....or perhaps I
might.....tomorrow. I do believe I have forgotten how to have just one
drink at a cellular level.....mind you, she poured me a strong one (for
me, that is). And it was........Cdn Club and Pepsi.....I can hear you
gagging all the way over here, LOL!!

Oops......I am babbling, so I really will go to bed now.

Night......Figgs

"Mike M" wrote in message
...
Figgs,

You may have "got them" when they were posted but are they still there?
No. What you are seeing is your local cached copy. This has nothing
whatsoever to do with the news client you are using other than that it
retains downloaded messages to a local store.

What Shane was saying, and I confirmed, is that his first post (which I
saw) is no longer on the server but has been deleted. I gather that
Harry and perhaps others replied to that post. All of these replies have
also been removed.

Don't believe me? Reset the NG and see what you get? vbg
--
Mike


Heather wrote:

Heck, I got all of them, Mike and Shane. Is that because I am using
XP??? Or do they have a Moderator watching Shane......ROFL!!

xx Figgs
and for Har Har's edification, most of the Firefox add-ons are by
authors I have never heard of........but FF approves them, so why not
download them?? You are looking for bad stuff that just doesn't
exist, Har. And I doubt that you are even using FF.

On Wed, 18 Mar 2009 10:50:48 -0000, Mike M wrote:

N. Miller wrote:

Not particularly. My reader will go to the server to look for an
article if it knows the MID$ of the article. If all I have is the
Subject line, and the article is older than my purge date, location
becomes a bit trickier because the article has aged out of the store.

And even trickier where, as in this case, the article has been removed
from the Microsoft server. The deleted thread is still accessible via
Google Groups
(http://groups.google.com/g/6f17fef7/...6553f27918a321)

Ah: That would be Message-ID: !

The nice thing about my news reader is that knowing the MID$, I can choose
to "Find" a message in the local store, on the server, or at Googl Groups.
With just a "Subject" I am going to have to resort to Internet search, and,
maybe, sift through hundreds, or even thousands of hits. Even
"Subject+author" may not reduce the number of hits to a manageable number.

--
Norman
~Shine, bright morning light,
~now in the air the spring is coming.
~Sweet, blowing wind,
~singing down the hills and valleys.

Mike M wrote:
There is no moderator as such for these NGs. Spam and excessive
multi-posts are mainly removed using pre-defined rules and on requests
sent to Microsoft by users. For example I've just asked Microsoft
for the phrase "Hot Czech Girl Chat" be added to the filters. I can


They don't work very quickly, do they Mike!

Shane wrote:

They don't work very quickly, do they Mike!

No. I and others don't understand why maintenance of the NGs is so poor
and apparently under resourced - Monday - Friday working hours, or so it
seems. The best time to spam the MS NGs being on a Friday evening Pacific
Time as it will then normally hang around until the Monday if not for
ever.
--
Mike