Java

Even with firewall and anti-virus disabled, I can't open the file
jre-1_5_0_09-windows-i586-p-s.exe, which is the latest version of Java
5.0. In fact I couldn't even delete it without rebooting first. Anybody know
what the problem is?

Did you get any error message? Did you try downloading it again? My guess is
the reason you couldn't delete it before restarating is that it was "still
in use" trying to start.

--

Gary S. Terhune
MS-MVP Shell/User
http://grystmill.com/articles/cleanboot.htm
http://grystmill.com/articles/security.htm

"Roger Fink" wrote in message
...
Even with firewall and anti-virus disabled, I can't open the file
jre-1_5_0_09-windows-i586-p-s.exe, which is the latest version of Java
5.0. In fact I couldn't even delete it without rebooting first. Anybody
know
what the problem is?

I did delete the first one after rebooting and then downloaded the file
again. I tried to locate a different source, but wherever I looked, say on
filehippo, I got referred to Sun's website. What happened in both cases is
that I double clicked it, the cursor changed to active but nothing happened,
and then after, say, 15 seconds it just returned to inactive - no error
message. I stored the file in a folder with older versions (of 1.4.2_x) and
they open with no problem. Plenty of time elapsed, minutes, before I tried
to delete it.

Now this is interesting: The same web page listed in google,
www.java.com/getjava , takes me to two different pages depending on whether
I'm using IE, or something else (I was using Mozilla). The Mozilla page file
I couldn't open was 15.4MB. The IE page file is 7.1MB. My previous
installations of this are about 16MB. I would try the IE download it except
that I don't feel I know the whole story - during previous installations,
the install program asked you whether you wanted to associate java with IE,
Mozilla, or both, so why wouldn't the files be exactly the same, let alone
the same size? In any case, no matter what you use to download an
executable, you're still opening a saved file with the same OS, so it should
open or, as you suggested, let you know that something is wrong.

Gary S. Terhune wrote:
Did you get any error message? Did you try downloading it again? My
guess is the reason you couldn't delete it before restarating is that
it was "still in use" trying to start.


"Roger Fink" wrote in message
...
Even with firewall and anti-virus disabled, I can't open the file
jre-1_5_0_09-windows-i586-p-s.exe, which is the latest version of
Java
5.0. In fact I couldn't even delete it without rebooting first.
Anybody know
what the problem is?

I think it's a bad file. Why else wouldn't it open?

Gary S. Terhune wrote:
Did you get any error message? Did you try downloading it again? My
guess is the reason you couldn't delete it before restarating is that
it was "still in use" trying to start.


"Roger Fink" wrote in message
...
Even with firewall and anti-virus disabled, I can't open the file
jre-1_5_0_09-windows-i586-p-s.exe, which is the latest version of
Java
5.0. In fact I couldn't even delete it without rebooting first.
Anybody know
what the problem is?

I've got a copy that's been used on several IE machines, both IE6 and IE7.
It's 15.4 MB.

All I can say is clear your caches, delete the file and try again. Then try
again tomorrow.

--

Gary S. Terhune
MS-MVP Shell/User
http://grystmill.com/articles/cleanboot.htm
http://grystmill.com/articles/security.htm

"Roger Fink" wrote in message
...
I did delete the first one after rebooting and then downloaded the file
again. I tried to locate a different source, but wherever I looked, say on
filehippo, I got referred to Sun's website. What happened in both cases is
that I double clicked it, the cursor changed to active but nothing
happened,
and then after, say, 15 seconds it just returned to inactive - no error
message. I stored the file in a folder with older versions (of 1.4.2_x)
and
they open with no problem. Plenty of time elapsed, minutes, before I tried
to delete it.

Now this is interesting: The same web page listed in google,
www.java.com/getjava , takes me to two different pages depending on
whether
I'm using IE, or something else (I was using Mozilla). The Mozilla page
file
I couldn't open was 15.4MB. The IE page file is 7.1MB. My previous
installations of this are about 16MB. I would try the IE download it
except
that I don't feel I know the whole story - during previous installations,
the install program asked you whether you wanted to associate java with
IE,
Mozilla, or both, so why wouldn't the files be exactly the same, let alone
the same size? In any case, no matter what you use to download an
executable, you're still opening a saved file with the same OS, so it
should
open or, as you suggested, let you know that something is wrong.

Gary S. Terhune wrote:
Did you get any error message? Did you try downloading it again? My
guess is the reason you couldn't delete it before restarating is that
it was "still in use" trying to start.


"Roger Fink" wrote in message
...
Even with firewall and anti-virus disabled, I can't open the file
jre-1_5_0_09-windows-i586-p-s.exe, which is the latest version of
Java
5.0. In fact I couldn't even delete it without rebooting first.
Anybody know
what the problem is?

Forget the above. My error: IE online vs. offline installation. I can do an
online installation I guess, but the save-and-open method should also be
made to work.

You are using the wrong link. Go he
http://www.java.com/en/download/manual.jsp

Click the download button for Windows (Offline Installation)
(filesize: 15.74 MB) and save it to a location on your hard drive.....don't run it
from the current location.

Follow the instructions he
http://www.java.com/en/download/help/5000010400.xml
--
Glen Ventura, MS MVP Shell/User, A+
http://dts-l.org/
http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm


"Roger Fink" wrote in message
...
I did delete the first one after rebooting and then downloaded the file
again. I tried to locate a different source, but wherever I looked, say on
filehippo, I got referred to Sun's website. What happened in both cases is
that I double clicked it, the cursor changed to active but nothing happened,
and then after, say, 15 seconds it just returned to inactive - no error
message. I stored the file in a folder with older versions (of 1.4.2_x) and
they open with no problem. Plenty of time elapsed, minutes, before I tried
to delete it.

Now this is interesting: The same web page listed in google,
www.java.com/getjava , takes me to two different pages depending on whether
I'm using IE, or something else (I was using Mozilla). The Mozilla page file
I couldn't open was 15.4MB. The IE page file is 7.1MB. My previous
installations of this are about 16MB. I would try the IE download it except
that I don't feel I know the whole story - during previous installations,
the install program asked you whether you wanted to associate java with IE,
Mozilla, or both, so why wouldn't the files be exactly the same, let alone
the same size? In any case, no matter what you use to download an
executable, you're still opening a saved file with the same OS, so it should
open or, as you suggested, let you know that something is wrong.

Gary S. Terhune wrote:
Did you get any error message? Did you try downloading it again? My
guess is the reason you couldn't delete it before restarating is that
it was "still in use" trying to start.


"Roger Fink" wrote in message
...
Even with firewall and anti-virus disabled, I can't open the file
jre-1_5_0_09-windows-i586-p-s.exe, which is the latest version of
Java
5.0. In fact I couldn't even delete it without rebooting first.
Anybody know
what the problem is?

glee wrote:
You are using the wrong link. Go he
http://www.java.com/en/download/manual.jsp

Nope. That's the same file. I just downloaded it and clicked it with the
same result.


Click the download button for Windows (Offline Installation)
(filesize: 15.74 MB) and save it to a location on your hard
drive.....don't run it from the current location.

Follow the instructions he
http://www.java.com/en/download/help/5000010400.xml

"Roger Fink" wrote in message
...
I did delete the first one after rebooting and then downloaded the
file
again. I tried to locate a different source, but wherever I looked,
say on filehippo, I got referred to Sun's website. What happened in
both cases is
that I double clicked it, the cursor changed to active but nothing
happened, and then after, say, 15 seconds it just returned to
inactive - no error message. I stored the file in a folder with
older versions (of 1.4.2_x) and they open with no problem. Plenty of
time elapsed, minutes, before I tried
to delete it.

Now this is interesting: The same web page listed in google,
www.java.com/getjava , takes me to two different pages depending on
whether
I'm using IE, or something else (I was using Mozilla). The Mozilla
page file
I couldn't open was 15.4MB. The IE page file is 7.1MB. My previous
installations of this are about 16MB. I would try the IE download it
except that I don't feel I know the whole story - during previous
installations,
the install program asked you whether you wanted to associate java
with IE, Mozilla, or both, so why wouldn't the files be exactly the
same, let alone
the same size? In any case, no matter what you use to download an
executable, you're still opening a saved file with the same OS, so
it should open or, as you suggested, let you know that something is
wrong.

Gary S. Terhune wrote:
Did you get any error message? Did you try downloading it again? My
guess is the reason you couldn't delete it before restarating is
that
it was "still in use" trying to start.


"Roger Fink" wrote in message
...
Even with firewall and anti-virus disabled, I can't open the file
jre-1_5_0_09-windows-i586-p-s.exe, which is the latest version of
Java
5.0. In fact I couldn't even delete it without rebooting first.
Anybody know
what the problem is?

I didn't say it wasn't, but I could probably come upwith a few reasons why
that doesn't mean that the file on the server is bad. I just gave ways for
making sure the file is gone from your system before trying again and to
address some of those possible other reasons it might not open properly.

Have you tried the IE installation yet? Note that there isn't any Mozilla/IE
dichotomy. The file is the same for both. There are only different files for
different OS platforms.

Try this copy, if you like:

http://grystmill.com/shared/jre-1_5_...ows-i586-p.exe

--

Gary S. Terhune
MS-MVP Shell/User
http://grystmill.com/articles/cleanboot.htm
http://grystmill.com/articles/security.htm

"Roger Fink" wrote in message
...
I think it's a bad file. Why else wouldn't it open?

Gary S. Terhune wrote:
Did you get any error message? Did you try downloading it again? My
guess is the reason you couldn't delete it before restarating is that
it was "still in use" trying to start.


"Roger Fink" wrote in message
...
Even with firewall and anti-virus disabled, I can't open the file
jre-1_5_0_09-windows-i586-p-s.exe, which is the latest version of
Java
5.0. In fact I couldn't even delete it without rebooting first.
Anybody know
what the problem is?

Thanks for the file. Doesn't open however.
Since I need a version of JRE on the machine, I just upgraded to 1.4.2_13
from v._12. I tried 1.5 when it first came out, didn't have much luck with
it, but wanted to try it again.

Gary S. Terhune wrote:
I didn't say it wasn't, but I could probably come upwith a few
reasons why that doesn't mean that the file on the server is bad. I
just gave ways for making sure the file is gone from your system
before trying again and to address some of those possible other
reasons it might not open properly.

Have you tried the IE installation yet? Note that there isn't any
Mozilla/IE dichotomy. The file is the same for both. There are only
different files for different OS platforms.

Try this copy, if you like:

http://grystmill.com/shared/jre-1_5_...ows-i586-p.exe


"Roger Fink" wrote in message
...
I think it's a bad file. Why else wouldn't it open?

Gary S. Terhune wrote:
Did you get any error message? Did you try downloading it again? My
guess is the reason you couldn't delete it before restarating is
that
it was "still in use" trying to start.


"Roger Fink" wrote in message
...
Even with firewall and anti-virus disabled, I can't open the file
jre-1_5_0_09-windows-i586-p-s.exe, which is the latest version of
Java
5.0. In fact I couldn't even delete it without rebooting first.
Anybody know
what the problem is?