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Please help me recover photos of my newborn
I have a crippling problem for which I seem to have found a possible
solution, but the problem is that I can’t get my computer to carry out the solution. Let me preface this by saying that if you can offer me help, please assume nothing when it comes to my computer knowledge. Even with this potential fix I’ve found, I’m like a 5-year-old trying to follow a recipe. Here’s the problem, here’s the potential solution I’ve found, and here’s the problem I’m having carrying out the solution: THE PROBLEM Whenever i try to start my win98se the windows makes it to the opening backdrop with the message "explorer, this program has performed an illegal operation and will be shut down". the details say " explorer caused an invalid page fault in module explorer.exe at 0167:00401f31. I have no choice but to close it and then have nothing at my disposal -- just wallpaper and a useless mouse. The problem occurred after I ran the spybot program – something I’ve read has happened to other people as well. THE SOLUTION Here’s something I found that someone suggested to someone else for this very problem: (1) Press CTRL+ALT+DELETE, & click Shut Down. (2) After the computer has been shut down, turn on the computer. Hold CTRL as you boot for the Startup Menu, or begin pressing the F8 key in one-second intervals. If you complete this step successfully, the Microsoft Windows Startup Menu is displayed. If no menu is displayed and Windows starts up normally, repeat this step. (3) At the Microsoft Windows Startup Menu, use the ARROW keys to select "Command Prompt Only", and then press the ENTER key. (4) At the command prompt, type: EDIT C:\Windows\System.ini Press ENTER. (3) In the C:\Windows\SYSTEM.INI file, locate the line of text under the [boot] section that lists "Shell=Explorer.exe". This is typically the third line in the file. (4) Edit the "Shell=Explorer.exe" line by deleting the "Explorer.exe" text and replacing it with "Winfile.exe". The line should list the following: Shell=Winfile.exe (5) To save the changes, press the ALT+F keys. (6) A menu displays in the upper left corner of the screen. Press the X key to exit. (7) Press ENTER to save the changes and return to the command prompt. (TAB would move you to the next button.) (8) At the command prompt, restart the computer by pressing the CTRL+ALT+DELETE keys. Once Windows has restarted, it starts into the Windows File Manager (Winfile.exe). (9) In the File Manager window, double-click "progra~1" in the left hand window to open the Program Files folder. (10) Double-click "intern~1" in the left hand window to open the Internet Explorer folder. (11) Double-click "setup" in the left hand window to open the Setup folder. (12) In the File Manager window, double-click "Setup.exe" in the right hand window to launch Internet Explorer setup. NOTE: If the setup folder is not available, Internet Explorer has not been updated and a previous version of Internet Explorer cannot be restored. You cannot use this method. Close "Winfile", shut down, & post back, or try the URL at the very bottom of this post, which is an over-install of IE. (13) In the Internet Explorer 6 and Internet Tools Setup window, click OK. (14) In the Setup Message dialog box, click Yes to restore the previous version of Internet Explorer. (15) Internet Explorer setup removes components. (16) In the Internet Explorer 6 and Internet Tools - Restart Windows dialog box, click Restart Windows. When the computer is restarting, hold CTRL for the Startup Menu, or begin pressing the F8 key in one-second intervals. If you complete this step successfully, the Microsoft Windows Startup Menu is displayed. If no menu is displayed and Windows starts up normally, repeat this step. (17) At the Microsoft Windows Startup Menu, use the ARROW keys to select Command prompt only, and then press ENTER. (18) At the command prompt, type: EDIT C:\Windows\System.ini Press ENTER. (19) In the C:\Windows\SYSTEM.INI file, locate the line of text under the [boot] section that lists "Shell=Winfile.exe". This is typically the third line in the file. (20) Edit the "Shell=Winfile.exe" line by deleting the "Winfile.exe" text and replacing it with "Explorer.exe". The line should list the following: Shell=Explorer.exe (21) To save the changes, press the ALT+F keys. (22) A menu displays in the upper left corner of the screen. Press the X key to exit. (23) Press ENTER to save the changes and return to the command prompt. (TAB would move you to the next button.) (24) At the command prompt, restart the computer by pressing the CTRL+ALT+DELETE keys (25) Windows starts to a blue screen, but will still be accessing the hard drive for a period of time. When finished, Windows is on the desktop with icons, but an older version of Internet Explorer is installed. You should update your antivirus software, and then perform Windows Update to install a new version of Internet Explorer again. MY PROBLEM WITH THE SOLUTION Try as I might to follow the formula, I can’t get past step #8. I successfully get to the point where I change shell=explorer.exe to shell=winfile.exe (or in another potential fix, shell=progman.exe). But then when I shut down the computer, the promise of the windows file manager coming up never materializes. Instead, the computer starts the same way it did before I made the changes, leaving me with nothing to do but shake my head and threaten to throw my computer out the nearest window. Can anyone help get me past this step so I can at least try this fix? If not, can anyone suggest another fix? I have the recovery disk that came with the computer but have no knowledge about how to use it and have been told that even if I did use it, I’d lose al the programs I had loaded onto my computer. Any help, as specific and dumbed-down as possible, would be greatly appreciated. My computer has been useless for a week now, and I fear I’ll never again see the pictures of my newborn that I recently downloaded into the digital camera software on my computer. Thank you in advance for any assistance. |
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If the computer is still starting the same way instead of starting with the
alternate shell, then either you are not making the edit correctly, or you are not saving the changes when you close the system.ini file after making the changes. Before you reinstall IE using the procedure you explained, have you tried restarting in Safe Mode? Do you get the same error in Safe Mode, or can you do a successful Safe Mode start? -Start the computer and hold down the CTRL key till the Windows 98 Startup menu (boot menu) appears. -Use the arrow keys to select "Safe Mode" and press Enter. If you can start in Safe Mode, run SpyBot again and restore the backups it made when you removed the items you mentioned. -- Glen Ventura, MS MVP Shell/User, A+ http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm "rbryan" wrote in message ... I have a crippling problem for which I seem to have found a possible solution, but the problem is that I can’t get my computer to carry out the solution. Let me preface this by saying that if you can offer me help, please assume nothing when it comes to my computer knowledge. Even with this potential fix I’ve found, I’m like a 5-year-old trying to follow a recipe. Here’s the problem, here’s the potential solution I’ve found, and here’s the problem I’m having carrying out the solution: THE PROBLEM Whenever i try to start my win98se the windows makes it to the opening backdrop with the message "explorer, this program has performed an illegal operation and will be shut down". the details say " explorer caused an invalid page fault in module explorer.exe at 0167:00401f31. I have no choice but to close it and then have nothing at my disposal -- just wallpaper and a useless mouse. The problem occurred after I ran the spybot program – something I’ve read has happened to other people as well. THE SOLUTION Here’s something I found that someone suggested to someone else for this very problem: (1) Press CTRL+ALT+DELETE, & click Shut Down. (2) After the computer has been shut down, turn on the computer. Hold CTRL as you boot for the Startup Menu, or begin pressing the F8 key in one-second intervals. If you complete this step successfully, the Microsoft Windows Startup Menu is displayed. If no menu is displayed and Windows starts up normally, repeat this step. (3) At the Microsoft Windows Startup Menu, use the ARROW keys to select "Command Prompt Only", and then press the ENTER key. (4) At the command prompt, type: EDIT C:\Windows\System.ini Press ENTER. (3) In the C:\Windows\SYSTEM.INI file, locate the line of text under the [boot] section that lists "Shell=Explorer.exe". This is typically the third line in the file. (4) Edit the "Shell=Explorer.exe" line by deleting the "Explorer.exe" text and replacing it with "Winfile.exe". The line should list the following: Shell=Winfile.exe (5) To save the changes, press the ALT+F keys. (6) A menu displays in the upper left corner of the screen. Press the X key to exit. (7) Press ENTER to save the changes and return to the command prompt. (TAB would move you to the next button.) (8) At the command prompt, restart the computer by pressing the CTRL+ALT+DELETE keys. Once Windows has restarted, it starts into the Windows File Manager (Winfile.exe). (9) In the File Manager window, double-click "progra~1" in the left hand window to open the Program Files folder. (10) Double-click "intern~1" in the left hand window to open the Internet Explorer folder. (11) Double-click "setup" in the left hand window to open the Setup folder. (12) In the File Manager window, double-click "Setup.exe" in the right hand window to launch Internet Explorer setup. NOTE: If the setup folder is not available, Internet Explorer has not been updated and a previous version of Internet Explorer cannot be restored. You cannot use this method. Close "Winfile", shut down, & post back, or try the URL at the very bottom of this post, which is an over-install of IE. (13) In the Internet Explorer 6 and Internet Tools Setup window, click OK. (14) In the Setup Message dialog box, click Yes to restore the previous version of Internet Explorer. (15) Internet Explorer setup removes components. (16) In the Internet Explorer 6 and Internet Tools - Restart Windows dialog box, click Restart Windows. When the computer is restarting, hold CTRL for the Startup Menu, or begin pressing the F8 key in one-second intervals. If you complete this step successfully, the Microsoft Windows Startup Menu is displayed. If no menu is displayed and Windows starts up normally, repeat this step. (17) At the Microsoft Windows Startup Menu, use the ARROW keys to select Command prompt only, and then press ENTER. (18) At the command prompt, type: EDIT C:\Windows\System.ini Press ENTER. (19) In the C:\Windows\SYSTEM.INI file, locate the line of text under the [boot] section that lists "Shell=Winfile.exe". This is typically the third line in the file. (20) Edit the "Shell=Winfile.exe" line by deleting the "Winfile.exe" text and replacing it with "Explorer.exe". The line should list the following: Shell=Explorer.exe (21) To save the changes, press the ALT+F keys. (22) A menu displays in the upper left corner of the screen. Press the X key to exit. (23) Press ENTER to save the changes and return to the command prompt. (TAB would move you to the next button.) (24) At the command prompt, restart the computer by pressing the CTRL+ALT+DELETE keys (25) Windows starts to a blue screen, but will still be accessing the hard drive for a period of time. When finished, Windows is on the desktop with icons, but an older version of Internet Explorer is installed. You should update your antivirus software, and then perform Windows Update to install a new version of Internet Explorer again. MY PROBLEM WITH THE SOLUTION Try as I might to follow the formula, I can’t get past step #8. I successfully get to the point where I change shell=explorer.exe to shell=winfile.exe (or in another potential fix, shell=progman.exe). But then when I shut down the computer, the promise of the windows file manager coming up never materializes. Instead, the computer starts the same way it did before I made the changes, leaving me with nothing to do but shake my head and threaten to throw my computer out the nearest window. Can anyone help get me past this step so I can at least try this fix? If not, can anyone suggest another fix? I have the recovery disk that came with the computer but have no knowledge about how to use it and have been told that even if I did use it, I’d lose al the programs I had loaded onto my computer. Any help, as specific and dumbed-down as possible, would be greatly appreciated. My computer has been useless for a week now, and I fear I’ll never again see the pictures of my newborn that I recently downloaded into the digital camera software on my computer. Thank you in advance for any assistance. |
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=?Utf-8?B?cmJyeWFu?= wrote in
: Any help, as specific and dumbed-down as possible, would be greatly appreciated. My computer has been useless for a week now, and I fear I’ll never again see the pictures of my newborn that I recently downloaded into the digital camera software on my computer. Thank you in advance for any assistance. Do you have a CD burner in the system, or access to a network drive, or an USB thumb? In that case you can use Knoppix to safe your photos. Get a Knoppix CD, and boot from it. There's a program K3B to burn CD's. Knoppix is a Linux distro, which boots from CD, without touching the harddisk. You can download it at www.knoppix.org but it's often found as cover CD at a computer magazine. |
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glee,
Here's the thing about it. I've followed those directions probably about 10 times to make sure that I'm doing it properly, and every time it's the same result. Is there something wrong with the directions? And yes, I have tried it in the safe mode. No dice. Any other ideas? "glee" wrote: If the computer is still starting the same way instead of starting with the alternate shell, then either you are not making the edit correctly, or you are not saving the changes when you close the system.ini file after making the changes. Before you reinstall IE using the procedure you explained, have you tried restarting in Safe Mode? Do you get the same error in Safe Mode, or can you do a successful Safe Mode start? -Start the computer and hold down the CTRL key till the Windows 98 Startup menu (boot menu) appears. -Use the arrow keys to select "Safe Mode" and press Enter. If you can start in Safe Mode, run SpyBot again and restore the backups it made when you removed the items you mentioned. -- Glen Ventura, MS MVP Shell/User, A+ http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm "rbryan" wrote in message ... I have a crippling problem for which I seem to have found a possible solution, but the problem is that I can’t get my computer to carry out the solution. Let me preface this by saying that if you can offer me help, please assume nothing when it comes to my computer knowledge. Even with this potential fix I’ve found, I’m like a 5-year-old trying to follow a recipe. Here’s the problem, here’s the potential solution I’ve found, and here’s the problem I’m having carrying out the solution: THE PROBLEM Whenever i try to start my win98se the windows makes it to the opening backdrop with the message "explorer, this program has performed an illegal operation and will be shut down". the details say " explorer caused an invalid page fault in module explorer.exe at 0167:00401f31. I have no choice but to close it and then have nothing at my disposal -- just wallpaper and a useless mouse. The problem occurred after I ran the spybot program – something I’ve read has happened to other people as well. THE SOLUTION Here’s something I found that someone suggested to someone else for this very problem: (1) Press CTRL+ALT+DELETE, & click Shut Down. (2) After the computer has been shut down, turn on the computer. Hold CTRL as you boot for the Startup Menu, or begin pressing the F8 key in one-second intervals. If you complete this step successfully, the Microsoft Windows Startup Menu is displayed. If no menu is displayed and Windows starts up normally, repeat this step. (3) At the Microsoft Windows Startup Menu, use the ARROW keys to select "Command Prompt Only", and then press the ENTER key. (4) At the command prompt, type: EDIT C:\Windows\System.ini Press ENTER. (3) In the C:\Windows\SYSTEM.INI file, locate the line of text under the [boot] section that lists "Shell=Explorer.exe". This is typically the third line in the file. (4) Edit the "Shell=Explorer.exe" line by deleting the "Explorer.exe" text and replacing it with "Winfile.exe". The line should list the following: Shell=Winfile.exe (5) To save the changes, press the ALT+F keys. (6) A menu displays in the upper left corner of the screen. Press the X key to exit. (7) Press ENTER to save the changes and return to the command prompt. (TAB would move you to the next button.) (8) At the command prompt, restart the computer by pressing the CTRL+ALT+DELETE keys. Once Windows has restarted, it starts into the Windows File Manager (Winfile.exe). (9) In the File Manager window, double-click "progra~1" in the left hand window to open the Program Files folder. (10) Double-click "intern~1" in the left hand window to open the Internet Explorer folder. (11) Double-click "setup" in the left hand window to open the Setup folder. (12) In the File Manager window, double-click "Setup.exe" in the right hand window to launch Internet Explorer setup. NOTE: If the setup folder is not available, Internet Explorer has not been updated and a previous version of Internet Explorer cannot be restored. You cannot use this method. Close "Winfile", shut down, & post back, or try the URL at the very bottom of this post, which is an over-install of IE. (13) In the Internet Explorer 6 and Internet Tools Setup window, click OK. (14) In the Setup Message dialog box, click Yes to restore the previous version of Internet Explorer. (15) Internet Explorer setup removes components. (16) In the Internet Explorer 6 and Internet Tools - Restart Windows dialog box, click Restart Windows. When the computer is restarting, hold CTRL for the Startup Menu, or begin pressing the F8 key in one-second intervals. If you complete this step successfully, the Microsoft Windows Startup Menu is displayed. If no menu is displayed and Windows starts up normally, repeat this step. (17) At the Microsoft Windows Startup Menu, use the ARROW keys to select Command prompt only, and then press ENTER. (18) At the command prompt, type: EDIT C:\Windows\System.ini Press ENTER. (19) In the C:\Windows\SYSTEM.INI file, locate the line of text under the [boot] section that lists "Shell=Winfile.exe". This is typically the third line in the file. (20) Edit the "Shell=Winfile.exe" line by deleting the "Winfile.exe" text and replacing it with "Explorer.exe". The line should list the following: Shell=Explorer.exe (21) To save the changes, press the ALT+F keys. (22) A menu displays in the upper left corner of the screen. Press the X key to exit. (23) Press ENTER to save the changes and return to the command prompt. (TAB would move you to the next button.) (24) At the command prompt, restart the computer by pressing the CTRL+ALT+DELETE keys (25) Windows starts to a blue screen, but will still be accessing the hard drive for a period of time. When finished, Windows is on the desktop with icons, but an older version of Internet Explorer is installed. You should update your antivirus software, and then perform Windows Update to install a new version of Internet Explorer again. MY PROBLEM WITH THE SOLUTION Try as I might to follow the formula, I can’t get past step #8. I successfully get to the point where I change shell=explorer.exe to shell=winfile.exe (or in another potential fix, shell=progman.exe). But then when I shut down the computer, the promise of the windows file manager coming up never materializes. Instead, the computer starts the same way it did before I made the changes, leaving me with nothing to do but shake my head and threaten to throw my computer out the nearest window. Can anyone help get me past this step so I can at least try this fix? If not, can anyone suggest another fix? I have the recovery disk that came with the computer but have no knowledge about how to use it and have been told that even if I did use it, I’d lose al the programs I had loaded onto my computer. Any help, as specific and dumbed-down as possible, would be greatly appreciated. My computer has been useless for a week now, and I fear I’ll never again see the pictures of my newborn that I recently downloaded into the digital camera software on my computer. Thank you in advance for any assistance. |
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THOSE were MY directions, & there's NOTHING wrong with them, except they
may not work for every possible ill. Try some of the other stuff people have been posting to you! The article I posted lower in this thread seems apropos, as it too deals with a failed install, (Juno instead of Spybot, though). Also, it deals with IE files. -- Thanks or Good Luck, There may be humor in this post, and, Naturally, you will not sue, should things get worse after this, PCR "rbryan" wrote in message news | glee, | Here's the thing about it. I've followed those directions probably about 10 | times to make sure that I'm doing it properly, and every time it's the same | result. Is there something wrong with the directions? | And yes, I have tried it in the safe mode. No dice. Any other ideas? | | | "glee" wrote: | | If the computer is still starting the same way instead of starting with the | alternate shell, then either you are not making the edit correctly, or you are not | saving the changes when you close the system.ini file after making the changes. | | Before you reinstall IE using the procedure you explained, have you tried restarting | in Safe Mode? Do you get the same error in Safe Mode, or can you do a successful | Safe Mode start? | -Start the computer and hold down the CTRL key till the Windows 98 Startup menu | (boot menu) appears. | -Use the arrow keys to select "Safe Mode" and press Enter. | | If you can start in Safe Mode, run SpyBot again and restore the backups it made when | you removed the items you mentioned. | -- | Glen Ventura, MS MVP Shell/User, A+ | http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm | | | "rbryan" wrote in message | ... | I have a crippling problem for which I seem to have found a possible | solution, but the problem is that I can’t get my computer to carry out the | solution. Let me preface this by saying that if you can offer me help, please | assume nothing when it comes to my computer knowledge. Even with this | potential fix I’ve found, I’m like a 5-year-old trying to follow a recipe. | | Here’s the problem, here’s the potential solution I’ve found, and here’s the | problem I’m having carrying out the solution: | | THE PROBLEM | | Whenever i try to start my win98se the windows makes it to the opening | backdrop with the message "explorer, this program has performed an illegal | operation and will be shut down". the details say " explorer caused an | invalid page fault in module explorer.exe at 0167:00401f31. I have no choice | but to close it and then have nothing at my disposal -- just wallpaper and a | useless mouse. | The problem occurred after I ran the spybot program – something I’ve read | has happened to other people as well. | | THE SOLUTION | | Here’s something I found that someone suggested to someone else for this | very problem: | | (1) Press CTRL+ALT+DELETE, & click Shut Down. | | (2) After the computer has been shut down, turn on the computer. Hold CTRL | as you boot for the Startup Menu, or begin pressing the F8 key in one-second | intervals. If you complete this step successfully, the Microsoft Windows | Startup Menu is displayed. If no menu is displayed and Windows starts up | normally, repeat this step. | | (3) At the Microsoft Windows Startup Menu, use the ARROW keys to select | "Command Prompt Only", and then press the ENTER key. | | (4) At the command prompt, type: EDIT C:\Windows\System.ini | Press ENTER. | | (3) In the C:\Windows\SYSTEM.INI file, locate the line of text under the | [boot] section that lists "Shell=Explorer.exe". This is typically the third | line in the file. | | (4) Edit the "Shell=Explorer.exe" line by deleting the "Explorer.exe" text | and replacing it with "Winfile.exe". The line should list the following: | Shell=Winfile.exe | | (5) To save the changes, press the ALT+F keys. | | (6) A menu displays in the upper left corner of the screen. Press the X key | to exit. | | (7) Press ENTER to save the changes and return to the command prompt. (TAB | would move you to the next button.) | | (8) At the command prompt, restart the computer by pressing the | CTRL+ALT+DELETE keys. Once Windows has restarted, it starts into the Windows | File Manager (Winfile.exe). | | (9) In the File Manager window, double-click "progra~1" in the left hand | window to open the Program Files folder. | | (10) Double-click "intern~1" in the left hand window to open the | Internet Explorer folder. | | (11) Double-click "setup" in the left hand window to open the Setup | folder. | | (12) In the File Manager window, double-click "Setup.exe" in the right hand | window to launch Internet Explorer setup. | | NOTE: If the setup folder is not available, Internet Explorer has not | been updated and a previous version of Internet Explorer cannot be | restored. You cannot use this method. Close "Winfile", shut down, & post | back, or try the URL at the very bottom of this post, which is an | over-install of IE. | | (13) In the Internet Explorer 6 and Internet Tools Setup window, click OK. | | (14) In the Setup Message dialog box, click Yes to restore the previous | version of Internet Explorer. | | (15) Internet Explorer setup removes components. | | (16) In the Internet Explorer 6 and Internet Tools - Restart Windows dialog | box, click Restart Windows. | | When the computer is restarting, hold CTRL for the Startup Menu, or begin | pressing the F8 key in one-second intervals. If you complete this | step successfully, the Microsoft Windows Startup Menu is displayed. If no | menu is displayed and Windows starts up normally, repeat this step. | | (17) At the Microsoft Windows Startup Menu, use the ARROW keys to select | Command prompt only, and then press ENTER. | | (18) At the command prompt, type: EDIT C:\Windows\System.ini | Press ENTER. | | (19) In the C:\Windows\SYSTEM.INI file, locate the line of text under the | [boot] section that lists "Shell=Winfile.exe". This is typically the third | line in the file. | | (20) Edit the "Shell=Winfile.exe" line by deleting the "Winfile.exe" | text and replacing it with "Explorer.exe". The line should list the | following: Shell=Explorer.exe | | (21) To save the changes, press the ALT+F keys. | | (22) A menu displays in the upper left corner of the screen. Press the X key | to exit. | | (23) Press ENTER to save the changes and return to the command prompt. (TAB | would move you to the next button.) | | (24) At the command prompt, restart the computer by pressing the | CTRL+ALT+DELETE keys | | (25) Windows starts to a blue screen, but will still be | accessing the hard drive for a period of time. When | finished, Windows is on the desktop with icons, but an | older version of Internet Explorer is installed. You | should update your antivirus software, and then perform | Windows Update to install a new version of Internet | Explorer again. | | | MY PROBLEM WITH THE SOLUTION | | Try as I might to follow the formula, I can’t get past step #8. I | successfully get to the point where I change shell=explorer.exe to | shell=winfile.exe (or in another potential fix, shell=progman.exe). But then | when I shut down the computer, the promise of the windows file manager coming | up never materializes. Instead, the computer starts the same way it did | before I made the changes, leaving me with nothing to do but shake my head | and threaten to throw my computer out the nearest window. | | Can anyone help get me past this step so I can at least try this fix? If | not, can anyone suggest another fix? I have the recovery disk that came with | the computer but have no knowledge about how to use it and have been told | that even if I did use it, I’d lose al the programs I had loaded onto my | computer. | | Any help, as specific and dumbed-down as possible, would be greatly | appreciated. My computer has been useless for a week now, and I fear I’ll | never again see the pictures of my newborn that I recently downloaded into | the digital camera software on my computer. Thank you in advance for any | assistance. | | | |
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I think you were speaking of SpyBot in the other thread. May as well...
DIR C:\Windows\Wininit.ini ....IF found, then... REN C:\Windows\Wininit.ini Wininit.bad REN C:\Config.sys Config.bad REN C:\Autoexec.bat Autoexec.bad Post the bad files, if you are now able to boot. C:\DIR C:\Windows\Wininit.ini Directory of C:\WINDOWS File not found ....I have none, because there is no install/update/reconfigure in progress. There should never be one of these, after one has boot all the way to Windows. -- Thanks or Good Luck, There may be humor in this post, and, Naturally, you will not sue, should things get worse after this, PCR "rbryan" wrote in message news | glee, | Here's the thing about it. I've followed those directions probably about 10 | times to make sure that I'm doing it properly, and every time it's the same | result. Is there something wrong with the directions? | And yes, I have tried it in the safe mode. No dice. Any other ideas? | | | "glee" wrote: | | If the computer is still starting the same way instead of starting with the | alternate shell, then either you are not making the edit correctly, or you are not | saving the changes when you close the system.ini file after making the changes. | | Before you reinstall IE using the procedure you explained, have you tried restarting | in Safe Mode? Do you get the same error in Safe Mode, or can you do a successful | Safe Mode start? | -Start the computer and hold down the CTRL key till the Windows 98 Startup menu | (boot menu) appears. | -Use the arrow keys to select "Safe Mode" and press Enter. | | If you can start in Safe Mode, run SpyBot again and restore the backups it made when | you removed the items you mentioned. | -- | Glen Ventura, MS MVP Shell/User, A+ | http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm | | | "rbryan" wrote in message | ... | I have a crippling problem for which I seem to have found a possible | solution, but the problem is that I can’t get my computer to carry out the | solution. Let me preface this by saying that if you can offer me help, please | assume nothing when it comes to my computer knowledge. Even with this | potential fix I’ve found, I’m like a 5-year-old trying to follow a recipe. | | Here’s the problem, here’s the potential solution I’ve found, and here’s the | problem I’m having carrying out the solution: | | THE PROBLEM | | Whenever i try to start my win98se the windows makes it to the opening | backdrop with the message "explorer, this program has performed an illegal | operation and will be shut down". the details say " explorer caused an | invalid page fault in module explorer.exe at 0167:00401f31. I have no choice | but to close it and then have nothing at my disposal -- just wallpaper and a | useless mouse. | The problem occurred after I ran the spybot program – something I’ve read | has happened to other people as well. | | THE SOLUTION | | Here’s something I found that someone suggested to someone else for this | very problem: | | (1) Press CTRL+ALT+DELETE, & click Shut Down. | | (2) After the computer has been shut down, turn on the computer. Hold CTRL | as you boot for the Startup Menu, or begin pressing the F8 key in one-second | intervals. If you complete this step successfully, the Microsoft Windows | Startup Menu is displayed. If no menu is displayed and Windows starts up | normally, repeat this step. | | (3) At the Microsoft Windows Startup Menu, use the ARROW keys to select | "Command Prompt Only", and then press the ENTER key. | | (4) At the command prompt, type: EDIT C:\Windows\System.ini | Press ENTER. | | (3) In the C:\Windows\SYSTEM.INI file, locate the line of text under the | [boot] section that lists "Shell=Explorer.exe". This is typically the third | line in the file. | | (4) Edit the "Shell=Explorer.exe" line by deleting the "Explorer.exe" text | and replacing it with "Winfile.exe". The line should list the following: | Shell=Winfile.exe | | (5) To save the changes, press the ALT+F keys. | | (6) A menu displays in the upper left corner of the screen. Press the X key | to exit. | | (7) Press ENTER to save the changes and return to the command prompt. (TAB | would move you to the next button.) | | (8) At the command prompt, restart the computer by pressing the | CTRL+ALT+DELETE keys. Once Windows has restarted, it starts into the Windows | File Manager (Winfile.exe). | | (9) In the File Manager window, double-click "progra~1" in the left hand | window to open the Program Files folder. | | (10) Double-click "intern~1" in the left hand window to open the | Internet Explorer folder. | | (11) Double-click "setup" in the left hand window to open the Setup | folder. | | (12) In the File Manager window, double-click "Setup.exe" in the right hand | window to launch Internet Explorer setup. | | NOTE: If the setup folder is not available, Internet Explorer has not | been updated and a previous version of Internet Explorer cannot be | restored. You cannot use this method. Close "Winfile", shut down, & post | back, or try the URL at the very bottom of this post, which is an | over-install of IE. | | (13) In the Internet Explorer 6 and Internet Tools Setup window, click OK. | | (14) In the Setup Message dialog box, click Yes to restore the previous | version of Internet Explorer. | | (15) Internet Explorer setup removes components. | | (16) In the Internet Explorer 6 and Internet Tools - Restart Windows dialog | box, click Restart Windows. | | When the computer is restarting, hold CTRL for the Startup Menu, or begin | pressing the F8 key in one-second intervals. If you complete this | step successfully, the Microsoft Windows Startup Menu is displayed. If no | menu is displayed and Windows starts up normally, repeat this step. | | (17) At the Microsoft Windows Startup Menu, use the ARROW keys to select | Command prompt only, and then press ENTER. | | (18) At the command prompt, type: EDIT C:\Windows\System.ini | Press ENTER. | | (19) In the C:\Windows\SYSTEM.INI file, locate the line of text under the | [boot] section that lists "Shell=Winfile.exe". This is typically the third | line in the file. | | (20) Edit the "Shell=Winfile.exe" line by deleting the "Winfile.exe" | text and replacing it with "Explorer.exe". The line should list the | following: Shell=Explorer.exe | | (21) To save the changes, press the ALT+F keys. | | (22) A menu displays in the upper left corner of the screen. Press the X key | to exit. | | (23) Press ENTER to save the changes and return to the command prompt. (TAB | would move you to the next button.) | | (24) At the command prompt, restart the computer by pressing the | CTRL+ALT+DELETE keys | | (25) Windows starts to a blue screen, but will still be | accessing the hard drive for a period of time. When | finished, Windows is on the desktop with icons, but an | older version of Internet Explorer is installed. You | should update your antivirus software, and then perform | Windows Update to install a new version of Internet | Explorer again. | | | MY PROBLEM WITH THE SOLUTION | | Try as I might to follow the formula, I can’t get past step #8. I | successfully get to the point where I change shell=explorer.exe to | shell=winfile.exe (or in another potential fix, shell=progman.exe). But then | when I shut down the computer, the promise of the windows file manager coming | up never materializes. Instead, the computer starts the same way it did | before I made the changes, leaving me with nothing to do but shake my head | and threaten to throw my computer out the nearest window. | | Can anyone help get me past this step so I can at least try this fix? If | not, can anyone suggest another fix? I have the recovery disk that came with | the computer but have no knowledge about how to use it and have been told | that even if I did use it, I’d lose al the programs I had loaded onto my | computer. | | Any help, as specific and dumbed-down as possible, would be greatly | appreciated. My computer has been useless for a week now, and I fear I’ll | never again see the pictures of my newborn that I recently downloaded into | the digital camera software on my computer. Thank you in advance for any | assistance. | | | |
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THOSE were MY directions, & there's NOTHING wrong with them, except they may not work for every possible ill. LOL. Well.yeah, that's what's wrong with them! Are you trying to confuse us now, PCR? What kind of deal is this? |
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Hey PCR,
I wasn't accusing you of offering questionable directions. In fact, I thank you for them; they seem to speak exactly to my problem. I know you said they won't work for everything, but I can't even find out if they'll work because I can't get the windows files manager (whatever that is) to come up on restart. Your directions are very detailed so I'm convinced I'm following them properly. So why when I change shell=Explorer.exe to shell=Winfile.exe does nothing seem to change on restart? If I could just get past that, as I've tried to a dozen times now, I can at least give the rest of the directions a shot. "PCR" wrote: Why have you left your earlier thread? There are responses in it you haven't responded to yet. Here is something that seems to have very nearly your precise error message... http://support.microsoft.com/default...11&Product=w98 Invalid Page Fault in Module Explorer.exe (296211) - After you upgrade your Juno software, or download and install Juno Web, you receive an error message similar to the following: Explorer.exe caused an invalid page fault in explorer.exe at 0157F: 00401F31 -- Thanks or Good Luck, There may be humor in this post, and, Naturally, you will not sue, should things get worse after this, PCR "rbryan" wrote in message ... | I have a crippling problem for which I seem to have found a possible | solution, but the problem is that I can’t get my computer to carry out the | solution. Let me preface this by saying that if you can offer me help, please | assume nothing when it comes to my computer knowledge. Even with this | potential fix I’ve found, I’m like a 5-year-old trying to follow a recipe. | | Here’s the problem, here’s the potential solution I’ve found, and here’s the | problem I’m having carrying out the solution: | | THE PROBLEM | | Whenever i try to start my win98se the windows makes it to the opening | backdrop with the message "explorer, this program has performed an illegal | operation and will be shut down". the details say " explorer caused an | invalid page fault in module explorer.exe at 0167:00401f31. I have no choice | but to close it and then have nothing at my disposal -- just wallpaper and a | useless mouse. | The problem occurred after I ran the spybot program – something I’ve read | has happened to other people as well. | | THE SOLUTION | | Here’s something I found that someone suggested to someone else for this | very problem: | | (1) Press CTRL+ALT+DELETE, & click Shut Down. | | (2) After the computer has been shut down, turn on the computer. Hold CTRL | as you boot for the Startup Menu, or begin pressing the F8 key in one-second | intervals. If you complete this step successfully, the Microsoft Windows | Startup Menu is displayed. If no menu is displayed and Windows starts up | normally, repeat this step. | | (3) At the Microsoft Windows Startup Menu, use the ARROW keys to select | "Command Prompt Only", and then press the ENTER key. | | (4) At the command prompt, type: EDIT C:\Windows\System.ini | Press ENTER. | | (3) In the C:\Windows\SYSTEM.INI file, locate the line of text under the | [boot] section that lists "Shell=Explorer.exe". This is typically the third | line in the file. | | (4) Edit the "Shell=Explorer.exe" line by deleting the "Explorer.exe" text | and replacing it with "Winfile.exe". The line should list the following: | Shell=Winfile.exe | | (5) To save the changes, press the ALT+F keys. | | (6) A menu displays in the upper left corner of the screen. Press the X key | to exit. | | (7) Press ENTER to save the changes and return to the command prompt. (TAB | would move you to the next button.) | | (8) At the command prompt, restart the computer by pressing the | CTRL+ALT+DELETE keys. Once Windows has restarted, it starts into the Windows | File Manager (Winfile.exe). | | (9) In the File Manager window, double-click "progra~1" in the left hand | window to open the Program Files folder. | | (10) Double-click "intern~1" in the left hand window to open the | Internet Explorer folder. | | (11) Double-click "setup" in the left hand window to open the Setup | folder. | | (12) In the File Manager window, double-click "Setup.exe" in the right hand | window to launch Internet Explorer setup. | | NOTE: If the setup folder is not available, Internet Explorer has not | been updated and a previous version of Internet Explorer cannot be | restored. You cannot use this method. Close "Winfile", shut down, & post | back, or try the URL at the very bottom of this post, which is an | over-install of IE. | | (13) In the Internet Explorer 6 and Internet Tools Setup window, click OK. | | (14) In the Setup Message dialog box, click Yes to restore the previous | version of Internet Explorer. | | (15) Internet Explorer setup removes components. | | (16) In the Internet Explorer 6 and Internet Tools - Restart Windows dialog | box, click Restart Windows. | | When the computer is restarting, hold CTRL for the Startup Menu, or begin | pressing the F8 key in one-second intervals. If you complete this | step successfully, the Microsoft Windows Startup Menu is displayed. If no | menu is displayed and Windows starts up normally, repeat this step. | | (17) At the Microsoft Windows Startup Menu, use the ARROW keys to select | Command prompt only, and then press ENTER. | | (18) At the command prompt, type: EDIT C:\Windows\System.ini | Press ENTER. | | (19) In the C:\Windows\SYSTEM.INI file, locate the line of text under the | [boot] section that lists "Shell=Winfile.exe". This is typically the third | line in the file. | | (20) Edit the "Shell=Winfile.exe" line by deleting the "Winfile.exe" | text and replacing it with "Explorer.exe". The line should list the | following: Shell=Explorer.exe | | (21) To save the changes, press the ALT+F keys. | | (22) A menu displays in the upper left corner of the screen. Press the X key | to exit. | | (23) Press ENTER to save the changes and return to the command prompt. (TAB | would move you to the next button.) | | (24) At the command prompt, restart the computer by pressing the | CTRL+ALT+DELETE keys | | (25) Windows starts to a blue screen, but will still be | accessing the hard drive for a period of time. When | finished, Windows is on the desktop with icons, but an | older version of Internet Explorer is installed. You | should update your antivirus software, and then perform | Windows Update to install a new version of Internet | Explorer again. | | | MY PROBLEM WITH THE SOLUTION | | Try as I might to follow the formula, I can’t get past step #8. I | successfully get to the point where I change shell=explorer.exe to | shell=winfile.exe (or in another potential fix, shell=progman.exe). But then | when I shut down the computer, the promise of the windows file manager coming | up never materializes. Instead, the computer starts the same way it did | before I made the changes, leaving me with nothing to do but shake my head | and threaten to throw my computer out the nearest window. | | Can anyone help get me past this step so I can at least try this fix? If | not, can anyone suggest another fix? I have the recovery disk that came with | the computer but have no knowledge about how to use it and have been told | that even if I did use it, I’d lose al the programs I had loaded onto my | computer. | | Any help, as specific and dumbed-down as possible, would be greatly | appreciated. My computer has been useless for a week now, and I fear I’ll | never again see the pictures of my newborn that I recently downloaded into | the digital camera software on my computer. Thank you in advance for any | assistance. | |
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I assume you are seeing the actual system.ini file when you open it with EDIT, and
are changing the shell= line from shell=explorer.exe, to winfile.exe or progman.exe? When you have made those changes, save them by pressing ALT, then F, then S. Exit EDIT by pressing ALT, then F, then X The instructions you posted on how to save the file, are confusing, and you may be not saving the changes. -- Glen Ventura, MS MVP Shell/User, A+ http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm "rbryan" wrote in message news glee, Here's the thing about it. I've followed those directions probably about 10 times to make sure that I'm doing it properly, and every time it's the same result. Is there something wrong with the directions? And yes, I have tried it in the safe mode. No dice. Any other ideas? "glee" wrote: If the computer is still starting the same way instead of starting with the alternate shell, then either you are not making the edit correctly, or you are not saving the changes when you close the system.ini file after making the changes. Before you reinstall IE using the procedure you explained, have you tried restarting in Safe Mode? Do you get the same error in Safe Mode, or can you do a successful Safe Mode start? -Start the computer and hold down the CTRL key till the Windows 98 Startup menu (boot menu) appears. -Use the arrow keys to select "Safe Mode" and press Enter. If you can start in Safe Mode, run SpyBot again and restore the backups it made when you removed the items you mentioned. -- Glen Ventura, MS MVP Shell/User, A+ http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm "rbryan" wrote in message ... I have a crippling problem for which I seem to have found a possible solution, but the problem is that I can’t get my computer to carry out the solution. Let me preface this by saying that if you can offer me help, please assume nothing when it comes to my computer knowledge. Even with this potential fix I’ve found, I’m like a 5-year-old trying to follow a recipe. Here’s the problem, here’s the potential solution I’ve found, and here’s the problem I’m having carrying out the solution: THE PROBLEM Whenever i try to start my win98se the windows makes it to the opening backdrop with the message "explorer, this program has performed an illegal operation and will be shut down". the details say " explorer caused an invalid page fault in module explorer.exe at 0167:00401f31. I have no choice but to close it and then have nothing at my disposal -- just wallpaper and a useless mouse. The problem occurred after I ran the spybot program – something I’ve read has happened to other people as well. THE SOLUTION Here’s something I found that someone suggested to someone else for this very problem: (1) Press CTRL+ALT+DELETE, & click Shut Down. (2) After the computer has been shut down, turn on the computer. Hold CTRL as you boot for the Startup Menu, or begin pressing the F8 key in one-second intervals. If you complete this step successfully, the Microsoft Windows Startup Menu is displayed. If no menu is displayed and Windows starts up normally, repeat this step. (3) At the Microsoft Windows Startup Menu, use the ARROW keys to select "Command Prompt Only", and then press the ENTER key. (4) At the command prompt, type: EDIT C:\Windows\System.ini Press ENTER. (3) In the C:\Windows\SYSTEM.INI file, locate the line of text under the [boot] section that lists "Shell=Explorer.exe". This is typically the third line in the file. (4) Edit the "Shell=Explorer.exe" line by deleting the "Explorer.exe" text and replacing it with "Winfile.exe". The line should list the following: Shell=Winfile.exe (5) To save the changes, press the ALT+F keys. (6) A menu displays in the upper left corner of the screen. Press the X key to exit. (7) Press ENTER to save the changes and return to the command prompt. (TAB would move you to the next button.) (8) At the command prompt, restart the computer by pressing the CTRL+ALT+DELETE keys. Once Windows has restarted, it starts into the Windows File Manager (Winfile.exe). (9) In the File Manager window, double-click "progra~1" in the left hand window to open the Program Files folder. (10) Double-click "intern~1" in the left hand window to open the Internet Explorer folder. (11) Double-click "setup" in the left hand window to open the Setup folder. (12) In the File Manager window, double-click "Setup.exe" in the right hand window to launch Internet Explorer setup. NOTE: If the setup folder is not available, Internet Explorer has not been updated and a previous version of Internet Explorer cannot be restored. You cannot use this method. Close "Winfile", shut down, & post back, or try the URL at the very bottom of this post, which is an over-install of IE. (13) In the Internet Explorer 6 and Internet Tools Setup window, click OK. (14) In the Setup Message dialog box, click Yes to restore the previous version of Internet Explorer. (15) Internet Explorer setup removes components. (16) In the Internet Explorer 6 and Internet Tools - Restart Windows dialog box, click Restart Windows. When the computer is restarting, hold CTRL for the Startup Menu, or begin pressing the F8 key in one-second intervals. If you complete this step successfully, the Microsoft Windows Startup Menu is displayed. If no menu is displayed and Windows starts up normally, repeat this step. (17) At the Microsoft Windows Startup Menu, use the ARROW keys to select Command prompt only, and then press ENTER. (18) At the command prompt, type: EDIT C:\Windows\System.ini Press ENTER. (19) In the C:\Windows\SYSTEM.INI file, locate the line of text under the [boot] section that lists "Shell=Winfile.exe". This is typically the third line in the file. (20) Edit the "Shell=Winfile.exe" line by deleting the "Winfile.exe" text and replacing it with "Explorer.exe". The line should list the following: Shell=Explorer.exe (21) To save the changes, press the ALT+F keys. (22) A menu displays in the upper left corner of the screen. Press the X key to exit. (23) Press ENTER to save the changes and return to the command prompt. (TAB would move you to the next button.) (24) At the command prompt, restart the computer by pressing the CTRL+ALT+DELETE keys (25) Windows starts to a blue screen, but will still be accessing the hard drive for a period of time. When finished, Windows is on the desktop with icons, but an older version of Internet Explorer is installed. You should update your antivirus software, and then perform Windows Update to install a new version of Internet Explorer again. MY PROBLEM WITH THE SOLUTION Try as I might to follow the formula, I can’t get past step #8. I successfully get to the point where I change shell=explorer.exe to shell=winfile.exe (or in another potential fix, shell=progman.exe). But then when I shut down the computer, the promise of the windows file manager coming up never materializes. Instead, the computer starts the same way it did before I made the changes, leaving me with nothing to do but shake my head and threaten to throw my computer out the nearest window. Can anyone help get me past this step so I can at least try this fix? If not, can anyone suggest another fix? I have the recovery disk that came with the computer but have no knowledge about how to use it and have been told that even if I did use it, I’d lose al the programs I had loaded onto my computer. Any help, as specific and dumbed-down as possible, would be greatly appreciated. My computer has been useless for a week now, and I fear I’ll never again see the pictures of my newborn that I recently downloaded into the digital camera software on my computer. Thank you in advance for any assistance. |
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