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  #11  
Old June 4th 08, 11:00 PM posted to microsoft.public.win98.setup
Gary S. Terhune[_2_]
External Usenet User
 
Posts: 2,158
Default reinstalling Windows 98

This is from restoring a Registry backup?

That error is probably from the mess that was left behind by the audio
drivers package. You can either live with it or try to fix it. I asked other
questions in that regard.

Yes, please ask questions about Windows XP in a Windows XP newsgroup. But I
don't understand your dual-boot system. Can't quite picture it. Is your
Windows XP on a separate hard drive? Do you *always* get a choice menu when
your system boots up? If so, you had extremely good luck getting to the
Startup Menu. If you don't have a choice menu (XP or 98) at startup, how do
you switch?

--
Gary S. Terhune
MS-MVP Shell/User
www.grystmill.com


"Vlatko" wrote in message
...

How can i describe how happy i am...how can i repay you...
now it enters in windows,it gives some message like "error loading
EGACCESS
4_1069.dll, the system cannot find the file specified",but thats from
before,i guess from some start up program...
and the XP keeps restarting,but i should ask on diferent forum for that?
Thank you sooo much... Gary...no words can say how calm i am now...
"Gary S. Terhune" wrote:

Note: DO NOT keep trying different Registry backups. You will go through
all
the possible backups you have, and each Restore creates a new backup that
pushes the oldest one off into the abyss. If the one backup doesn't work,
it
is doubtful another will, but we don't want to lose all our options.

Again, only try a SCANREG /RESTORE once.

--
Gary S. Terhune
MS-MVP Shell/User
www.grystmill.com

"Vlatko" wrote in message
...


"Gary S. Terhune" wrote:

Reinstalling "over the top" of an existing installation is not
recommended
except in a last-resort effort to get back into your system and get
your
personal data out in preparation for a full format and reinstall. An
"over
the top" installation usually leaves a system functioning (but not
always),
but it leaves it functioning poorly due to mismatched system files.
You
have
lots of system files that are newer than the ones Setup installs, and
while
there are some protections against this, they aren't many.

As for your applications (programs) that you can't find on the
internet,
you
really need to develop a strategy to replace them. Your Windows 98 box
is
going to go completely bad some day, those programs are almost
certainly
NOT
recoverable, and you'd be foolish not to prepare for that day.

But lets see if we can't figure out what's wrong with your system.
First,
can you boot to Safe Mode? In order to boot to Safe Mode, there are a
few
ways. Try this first: Start or restart the system, and immediately
begin
to
repeatedly press the Ctrl or the F8 key (either one). Don't hold the
key
down, as that will produce an error. Just repeatedly tap the chosen
key
about once per second or slightly more often. This should bring up a
Startup
Menu, where you can choose Safe Mode. Or, some people use the F5 key
in
the
same way, only it immediately boots to Safe Mode, bypassing the
Startup
Menu. Different methods work better for different people and on
different
machines.

If you can't get into Safe Mode, post back for more intricate
solutions.
Otherwise, once you get into Safe Mode, go to StartRun and type in
MSCONFIG, then press enter. When the panel comes up, choose
Selective
Startup, then uncheck the bottom item, "Load Startup group items".
Next,
click on the Advanced button at lower right and in that panel, check
the
item called "Enable Startup Menu". That will make it easier to get
into
whatever modes we may need to get into until this is fixed. Click OK,
then
click OK again on the main panel, then restart when prompted. When the
Startup Menu comes up, choose Normal Mode. (Note that to be safe, you
should
physically disconnect your internet connection at some place between
the
wall and your computer. All your background protective applications
have
been turned off.)

Did that let the system start up? Or not? (Note that this is just the
first
step in diagnostics. Don't try to use the system as it is.)

--
Gary S. Terhune
MS-MVP Shell/User
www.grystmill.com

Thank you for the quick reply, i cannot get in Windows in any way,safe
mode also,thats the problem,i was trying that also,i was trying also
while
the password window comes up,to make fgast ctrl-alt-delete,to open the
task manager to see if something is active,to turn it off,but the task
manager was epmty. i dont want to reinstall the windows also,but i
cannot
find better solution until now. and about the applications, the problem
was that the programs are bought some time ago,and the company is not
giving CD or something,to keep them just in case,they are installiung
it,and taking money,if you have problem after some time,like now,with
the
windows, you should buy again....
As far as i noticed,the problem happened when i tried to install
drivers,
when i was trying to install the audio driver,after the restart,it gave
me
some error message,i dont remember which,something about some stacks i
think?
and i was searching for the problem online and i read that its the
driver,as
i thought,so i went in safe mode and uninstalled the driver,after that
restart,the computer started doing this,after the password request,it
was
making the "updating system settings" and stuck...
So now its not even making the "updating system settings",just stuck
after
the password request...
was this history of the happenings helpfull?




  #12  
Old June 4th 08, 11:00 PM posted to microsoft.public.win98.setup
Gary S. Terhune[_2_]
External Usenet User
 
Posts: 2,158
Default reinstalling Windows 98

This is from restoring a Registry backup?

That error is probably from the mess that was left behind by the audio
drivers package. You can either live with it or try to fix it. I asked other
questions in that regard.

Yes, please ask questions about Windows XP in a Windows XP newsgroup. But I
don't understand your dual-boot system. Can't quite picture it. Is your
Windows XP on a separate hard drive? Do you *always* get a choice menu when
your system boots up? If so, you had extremely good luck getting to the
Startup Menu. If you don't have a choice menu (XP or 98) at startup, how do
you switch?

--
Gary S. Terhune
MS-MVP Shell/User
www.grystmill.com


"Vlatko" wrote in message
...

How can i describe how happy i am...how can i repay you...
now it enters in windows,it gives some message like "error loading
EGACCESS
4_1069.dll, the system cannot find the file specified",but thats from
before,i guess from some start up program...
and the XP keeps restarting,but i should ask on diferent forum for that?
Thank you sooo much... Gary...no words can say how calm i am now...
"Gary S. Terhune" wrote:

Note: DO NOT keep trying different Registry backups. You will go through
all
the possible backups you have, and each Restore creates a new backup that
pushes the oldest one off into the abyss. If the one backup doesn't work,
it
is doubtful another will, but we don't want to lose all our options.

Again, only try a SCANREG /RESTORE once.

--
Gary S. Terhune
MS-MVP Shell/User
www.grystmill.com

"Vlatko" wrote in message
...


"Gary S. Terhune" wrote:

Reinstalling "over the top" of an existing installation is not
recommended
except in a last-resort effort to get back into your system and get
your
personal data out in preparation for a full format and reinstall. An
"over
the top" installation usually leaves a system functioning (but not
always),
but it leaves it functioning poorly due to mismatched system files.
You
have
lots of system files that are newer than the ones Setup installs, and
while
there are some protections against this, they aren't many.

As for your applications (programs) that you can't find on the
internet,
you
really need to develop a strategy to replace them. Your Windows 98 box
is
going to go completely bad some day, those programs are almost
certainly
NOT
recoverable, and you'd be foolish not to prepare for that day.

But lets see if we can't figure out what's wrong with your system.
First,
can you boot to Safe Mode? In order to boot to Safe Mode, there are a
few
ways. Try this first: Start or restart the system, and immediately
begin
to
repeatedly press the Ctrl or the F8 key (either one). Don't hold the
key
down, as that will produce an error. Just repeatedly tap the chosen
key
about once per second or slightly more often. This should bring up a
Startup
Menu, where you can choose Safe Mode. Or, some people use the F5 key
in
the
same way, only it immediately boots to Safe Mode, bypassing the
Startup
Menu. Different methods work better for different people and on
different
machines.

If you can't get into Safe Mode, post back for more intricate
solutions.
Otherwise, once you get into Safe Mode, go to StartRun and type in
MSCONFIG, then press enter. When the panel comes up, choose
Selective
Startup, then uncheck the bottom item, "Load Startup group items".
Next,
click on the Advanced button at lower right and in that panel, check
the
item called "Enable Startup Menu". That will make it easier to get
into
whatever modes we may need to get into until this is fixed. Click OK,
then
click OK again on the main panel, then restart when prompted. When the
Startup Menu comes up, choose Normal Mode. (Note that to be safe, you
should
physically disconnect your internet connection at some place between
the
wall and your computer. All your background protective applications
have
been turned off.)

Did that let the system start up? Or not? (Note that this is just the
first
step in diagnostics. Don't try to use the system as it is.)

--
Gary S. Terhune
MS-MVP Shell/User
www.grystmill.com

Thank you for the quick reply, i cannot get in Windows in any way,safe
mode also,thats the problem,i was trying that also,i was trying also
while
the password window comes up,to make fgast ctrl-alt-delete,to open the
task manager to see if something is active,to turn it off,but the task
manager was epmty. i dont want to reinstall the windows also,but i
cannot
find better solution until now. and about the applications, the problem
was that the programs are bought some time ago,and the company is not
giving CD or something,to keep them just in case,they are installiung
it,and taking money,if you have problem after some time,like now,with
the
windows, you should buy again....
As far as i noticed,the problem happened when i tried to install
drivers,
when i was trying to install the audio driver,after the restart,it gave
me
some error message,i dont remember which,something about some stacks i
think?
and i was searching for the problem online and i read that its the
driver,as
i thought,so i went in safe mode and uninstalled the driver,after that
restart,the computer started doing this,after the password request,it
was
making the "updating system settings" and stuck...
So now its not even making the "updating system settings",just stuck
after
the password request...
was this history of the happenings helpfull?




  #13  
Old June 4th 08, 11:03 PM posted to microsoft.public.win98.setup
Gary S. Terhune[_2_]
External Usenet User
 
Posts: 2,158
Default reinstalling Windows 98

This is from restoring a Registry backup?

That error is probably from the mess that was left behind by the audio
drivers package. You can either live with it or try to fix it. I asked other
questions in that regard.

Yes, please ask questions about Windows XP in a Windows XP newsgroup. But I
don't understand your dual-boot system. Can't quite picture it. Is your
Windows XP on a separate hard drive? Do you *always* get a choice menu when
your system boots up? If so, you had extremely good luck getting to the
Startup Menu. If you don't have a choice menu (XP or 98) at startup, how do
you switch?

--
Gary S. Terhune
MS-MVP Shell/User
www.grystmill.com

"Vlatko" wrote in message
...

How can i describe how happy i am...how can i repay you...
now it enters in windows,it gives some message like "error loading
EGACCESS
4_1069.dll, the system cannot find the file specified",but thats from
before,i guess from some start up program...
and the XP keeps restarting,but i should ask on diferent forum for that?
Thank you sooo much... Gary...no words can say how calm i am now...
"Gary S. Terhune" wrote:

Note: DO NOT keep trying different Registry backups. You will go through
all
the possible backups you have, and each Restore creates a new backup that
pushes the oldest one off into the abyss. If the one backup doesn't work,
it
is doubtful another will, but we don't want to lose all our options.

Again, only try a SCANREG /RESTORE once.

--
Gary S. Terhune
MS-MVP Shell/User
www.grystmill.com

"Vlatko" wrote in message
...


"Gary S. Terhune" wrote:

Reinstalling "over the top" of an existing installation is not
recommended
except in a last-resort effort to get back into your system and get
your
personal data out in preparation for a full format and reinstall. An
"over
the top" installation usually leaves a system functioning (but not
always),
but it leaves it functioning poorly due to mismatched system files.
You
have
lots of system files that are newer than the ones Setup installs, and
while
there are some protections against this, they aren't many.

As for your applications (programs) that you can't find on the
internet,
you
really need to develop a strategy to replace them. Your Windows 98 box
is
going to go completely bad some day, those programs are almost
certainly
NOT
recoverable, and you'd be foolish not to prepare for that day.

But lets see if we can't figure out what's wrong with your system.
First,
can you boot to Safe Mode? In order to boot to Safe Mode, there are a
few
ways. Try this first: Start or restart the system, and immediately
begin
to
repeatedly press the Ctrl or the F8 key (either one). Don't hold the
key
down, as that will produce an error. Just repeatedly tap the chosen
key
about once per second or slightly more often. This should bring up a
Startup
Menu, where you can choose Safe Mode. Or, some people use the F5 key
in
the
same way, only it immediately boots to Safe Mode, bypassing the
Startup
Menu. Different methods work better for different people and on
different
machines.

If you can't get into Safe Mode, post back for more intricate
solutions.
Otherwise, once you get into Safe Mode, go to StartRun and type in
MSCONFIG, then press enter. When the panel comes up, choose
Selective
Startup, then uncheck the bottom item, "Load Startup group items".
Next,
click on the Advanced button at lower right and in that panel, check
the
item called "Enable Startup Menu". That will make it easier to get
into
whatever modes we may need to get into until this is fixed. Click OK,
then
click OK again on the main panel, then restart when prompted. When the
Startup Menu comes up, choose Normal Mode. (Note that to be safe, you
should
physically disconnect your internet connection at some place between
the
wall and your computer. All your background protective applications
have
been turned off.)

Did that let the system start up? Or not? (Note that this is just the
first
step in diagnostics. Don't try to use the system as it is.)

--
Gary S. Terhune
MS-MVP Shell/User
www.grystmill.com

Thank you for the quick reply, i cannot get in Windows in any way,safe
mode also,thats the problem,i was trying that also,i was trying also
while
the password window comes up,to make fgast ctrl-alt-delete,to open the
task manager to see if something is active,to turn it off,but the task
manager was epmty. i dont want to reinstall the windows also,but i
cannot
find better solution until now. and about the applications, the problem
was that the programs are bought some time ago,and the company is not
giving CD or something,to keep them just in case,they are installiung
it,and taking money,if you have problem after some time,like now,with
the
windows, you should buy again....
As far as i noticed,the problem happened when i tried to install
drivers,
when i was trying to install the audio driver,after the restart,it gave
me
some error message,i dont remember which,something about some stacks i
think?
and i was searching for the problem online and i read that its the
driver,as
i thought,so i went in safe mode and uninstalled the driver,after that
restart,the computer started doing this,after the password request,it
was
making the "updating system settings" and stuck...
So now its not even making the "updating system settings",just stuck
after
the password request...
was this history of the happenings helpfull?




  #14  
Old June 4th 08, 11:03 PM posted to microsoft.public.win98.setup
Gary S. Terhune[_2_]
External Usenet User
 
Posts: 2,158
Default reinstalling Windows 98

This is from restoring a Registry backup?

That error is probably from the mess that was left behind by the audio
drivers package. You can either live with it or try to fix it. I asked other
questions in that regard.

Yes, please ask questions about Windows XP in a Windows XP newsgroup. But I
don't understand your dual-boot system. Can't quite picture it. Is your
Windows XP on a separate hard drive? Do you *always* get a choice menu when
your system boots up? If so, you had extremely good luck getting to the
Startup Menu. If you don't have a choice menu (XP or 98) at startup, how do
you switch?

--
Gary S. Terhune
MS-MVP Shell/User
www.grystmill.com

"Vlatko" wrote in message
...

How can i describe how happy i am...how can i repay you...
now it enters in windows,it gives some message like "error loading
EGACCESS
4_1069.dll, the system cannot find the file specified",but thats from
before,i guess from some start up program...
and the XP keeps restarting,but i should ask on diferent forum for that?
Thank you sooo much... Gary...no words can say how calm i am now...
"Gary S. Terhune" wrote:

Note: DO NOT keep trying different Registry backups. You will go through
all
the possible backups you have, and each Restore creates a new backup that
pushes the oldest one off into the abyss. If the one backup doesn't work,
it
is doubtful another will, but we don't want to lose all our options.

Again, only try a SCANREG /RESTORE once.

--
Gary S. Terhune
MS-MVP Shell/User
www.grystmill.com

"Vlatko" wrote in message
...


"Gary S. Terhune" wrote:

Reinstalling "over the top" of an existing installation is not
recommended
except in a last-resort effort to get back into your system and get
your
personal data out in preparation for a full format and reinstall. An
"over
the top" installation usually leaves a system functioning (but not
always),
but it leaves it functioning poorly due to mismatched system files.
You
have
lots of system files that are newer than the ones Setup installs, and
while
there are some protections against this, they aren't many.

As for your applications (programs) that you can't find on the
internet,
you
really need to develop a strategy to replace them. Your Windows 98 box
is
going to go completely bad some day, those programs are almost
certainly
NOT
recoverable, and you'd be foolish not to prepare for that day.

But lets see if we can't figure out what's wrong with your system.
First,
can you boot to Safe Mode? In order to boot to Safe Mode, there are a
few
ways. Try this first: Start or restart the system, and immediately
begin
to
repeatedly press the Ctrl or the F8 key (either one). Don't hold the
key
down, as that will produce an error. Just repeatedly tap the chosen
key
about once per second or slightly more often. This should bring up a
Startup
Menu, where you can choose Safe Mode. Or, some people use the F5 key
in
the
same way, only it immediately boots to Safe Mode, bypassing the
Startup
Menu. Different methods work better for different people and on
different
machines.

If you can't get into Safe Mode, post back for more intricate
solutions.
Otherwise, once you get into Safe Mode, go to StartRun and type in
MSCONFIG, then press enter. When the panel comes up, choose
Selective
Startup, then uncheck the bottom item, "Load Startup group items".
Next,
click on the Advanced button at lower right and in that panel, check
the
item called "Enable Startup Menu". That will make it easier to get
into
whatever modes we may need to get into until this is fixed. Click OK,
then
click OK again on the main panel, then restart when prompted. When the
Startup Menu comes up, choose Normal Mode. (Note that to be safe, you
should
physically disconnect your internet connection at some place between
the
wall and your computer. All your background protective applications
have
been turned off.)

Did that let the system start up? Or not? (Note that this is just the
first
step in diagnostics. Don't try to use the system as it is.)

--
Gary S. Terhune
MS-MVP Shell/User
www.grystmill.com

Thank you for the quick reply, i cannot get in Windows in any way,safe
mode also,thats the problem,i was trying that also,i was trying also
while
the password window comes up,to make fgast ctrl-alt-delete,to open the
task manager to see if something is active,to turn it off,but the task
manager was epmty. i dont want to reinstall the windows also,but i
cannot
find better solution until now. and about the applications, the problem
was that the programs are bought some time ago,and the company is not
giving CD or something,to keep them just in case,they are installiung
it,and taking money,if you have problem after some time,like now,with
the
windows, you should buy again....
As far as i noticed,the problem happened when i tried to install
drivers,
when i was trying to install the audio driver,after the restart,it gave
me
some error message,i dont remember which,something about some stacks i
think?
and i was searching for the problem online and i read that its the
driver,as
i thought,so i went in safe mode and uninstalled the driver,after that
restart,the computer started doing this,after the password request,it
was
making the "updating system settings" and stuck...
So now its not even making the "updating system settings",just stuck
after
the password request...
was this history of the happenings helpfull?




  #15  
Old June 4th 08, 11:15 PM posted to microsoft.public.win98.setup
Vlatko
External Usenet User
 
Posts: 11
Default reinstalling Windows 98


yes,that was from the Registry backup,the OS`s are on separate hard
drives,and i always have the option to choose which to use on start up.why i
had extremly luck about the start menu?
"Gary S. Terhune" wrote:

This is from restoring a Registry backup?

That error is probably from the mess that was left behind by the audio
drivers package. You can either live with it or try to fix it. I asked other
questions in that regard.

Yes, please ask questions about Windows XP in a Windows XP newsgroup. But I
don't understand your dual-boot system. Can't quite picture it. Is your
Windows XP on a separate hard drive? Do you *always* get a choice menu when
your system boots up? If so, you had extremely good luck getting to the
Startup Menu. If you don't have a choice menu (XP or 98) at startup, how do
you switch?

--
Gary S. Terhune
MS-MVP Shell/User
www.grystmill.com


"Vlatko" wrote in message
...

How can i describe how happy i am...how can i repay you...
now it enters in windows,it gives some message like "error loading
EGACCESS
4_1069.dll, the system cannot find the file specified",but thats from
before,i guess from some start up program...
and the XP keeps restarting,but i should ask on diferent forum for that?
Thank you sooo much... Gary...no words can say how calm i am now...
"Gary S. Terhune" wrote:

Note: DO NOT keep trying different Registry backups. You will go through
all
the possible backups you have, and each Restore creates a new backup that
pushes the oldest one off into the abyss. If the one backup doesn't work,
it
is doubtful another will, but we don't want to lose all our options.

Again, only try a SCANREG /RESTORE once.

--
Gary S. Terhune
MS-MVP Shell/User
www.grystmill.com

"Vlatko" wrote in message
...


"Gary S. Terhune" wrote:

Reinstalling "over the top" of an existing installation is not
recommended
except in a last-resort effort to get back into your system and get
your
personal data out in preparation for a full format and reinstall. An
"over
the top" installation usually leaves a system functioning (but not
always),
but it leaves it functioning poorly due to mismatched system files.
You
have
lots of system files that are newer than the ones Setup installs, and
while
there are some protections against this, they aren't many.

As for your applications (programs) that you can't find on the
internet,
you
really need to develop a strategy to replace them. Your Windows 98 box
is
going to go completely bad some day, those programs are almost
certainly
NOT
recoverable, and you'd be foolish not to prepare for that day.

But lets see if we can't figure out what's wrong with your system.
First,
can you boot to Safe Mode? In order to boot to Safe Mode, there are a
few
ways. Try this first: Start or restart the system, and immediately
begin
to
repeatedly press the Ctrl or the F8 key (either one). Don't hold the
key
down, as that will produce an error. Just repeatedly tap the chosen
key
about once per second or slightly more often. This should bring up a
Startup
Menu, where you can choose Safe Mode. Or, some people use the F5 key
in
the
same way, only it immediately boots to Safe Mode, bypassing the
Startup
Menu. Different methods work better for different people and on
different
machines.

If you can't get into Safe Mode, post back for more intricate
solutions.
Otherwise, once you get into Safe Mode, go to StartRun and type in
MSCONFIG, then press enter. When the panel comes up, choose
Selective
Startup, then uncheck the bottom item, "Load Startup group items".
Next,
click on the Advanced button at lower right and in that panel, check
the
item called "Enable Startup Menu". That will make it easier to get
into
whatever modes we may need to get into until this is fixed. Click OK,
then
click OK again on the main panel, then restart when prompted. When the
Startup Menu comes up, choose Normal Mode. (Note that to be safe, you
should
physically disconnect your internet connection at some place between
the
wall and your computer. All your background protective applications
have
been turned off.)

Did that let the system start up? Or not? (Note that this is just the
first
step in diagnostics. Don't try to use the system as it is.)

--
Gary S. Terhune
MS-MVP Shell/User
www.grystmill.com

Thank you for the quick reply, i cannot get in Windows in any way,safe
mode also,thats the problem,i was trying that also,i was trying also
while
the password window comes up,to make fgast ctrl-alt-delete,to open the
task manager to see if something is active,to turn it off,but the task
manager was epmty. i dont want to reinstall the windows also,but i
cannot
find better solution until now. and about the applications, the problem
was that the programs are bought some time ago,and the company is not
giving CD or something,to keep them just in case,they are installiung
it,and taking money,if you have problem after some time,like now,with
the
windows, you should buy again....
As far as i noticed,the problem happened when i tried to install
drivers,
when i was trying to install the audio driver,after the restart,it gave
me
some error message,i dont remember which,something about some stacks i
think?
and i was searching for the problem online and i read that its the
driver,as
i thought,so i went in safe mode and uninstalled the driver,after that
restart,the computer started doing this,after the password request,it
was
making the "updating system settings" and stuck...
So now its not even making the "updating system settings",just stuck
after
the password request...
was this history of the happenings helpfull?





  #16  
Old June 4th 08, 11:15 PM posted to microsoft.public.win98.setup
Vlatko
External Usenet User
 
Posts: 11
Default reinstalling Windows 98


yes,that was from the Registry backup,the OS`s are on separate hard
drives,and i always have the option to choose which to use on start up.why i
had extremly luck about the start menu?
"Gary S. Terhune" wrote:

This is from restoring a Registry backup?

That error is probably from the mess that was left behind by the audio
drivers package. You can either live with it or try to fix it. I asked other
questions in that regard.

Yes, please ask questions about Windows XP in a Windows XP newsgroup. But I
don't understand your dual-boot system. Can't quite picture it. Is your
Windows XP on a separate hard drive? Do you *always* get a choice menu when
your system boots up? If so, you had extremely good luck getting to the
Startup Menu. If you don't have a choice menu (XP or 98) at startup, how do
you switch?

--
Gary S. Terhune
MS-MVP Shell/User
www.grystmill.com


"Vlatko" wrote in message
...

How can i describe how happy i am...how can i repay you...
now it enters in windows,it gives some message like "error loading
EGACCESS
4_1069.dll, the system cannot find the file specified",but thats from
before,i guess from some start up program...
and the XP keeps restarting,but i should ask on diferent forum for that?
Thank you sooo much... Gary...no words can say how calm i am now...
"Gary S. Terhune" wrote:

Note: DO NOT keep trying different Registry backups. You will go through
all
the possible backups you have, and each Restore creates a new backup that
pushes the oldest one off into the abyss. If the one backup doesn't work,
it
is doubtful another will, but we don't want to lose all our options.

Again, only try a SCANREG /RESTORE once.

--
Gary S. Terhune
MS-MVP Shell/User
www.grystmill.com

"Vlatko" wrote in message
...


"Gary S. Terhune" wrote:

Reinstalling "over the top" of an existing installation is not
recommended
except in a last-resort effort to get back into your system and get
your
personal data out in preparation for a full format and reinstall. An
"over
the top" installation usually leaves a system functioning (but not
always),
but it leaves it functioning poorly due to mismatched system files.
You
have
lots of system files that are newer than the ones Setup installs, and
while
there are some protections against this, they aren't many.

As for your applications (programs) that you can't find on the
internet,
you
really need to develop a strategy to replace them. Your Windows 98 box
is
going to go completely bad some day, those programs are almost
certainly
NOT
recoverable, and you'd be foolish not to prepare for that day.

But lets see if we can't figure out what's wrong with your system.
First,
can you boot to Safe Mode? In order to boot to Safe Mode, there are a
few
ways. Try this first: Start or restart the system, and immediately
begin
to
repeatedly press the Ctrl or the F8 key (either one). Don't hold the
key
down, as that will produce an error. Just repeatedly tap the chosen
key
about once per second or slightly more often. This should bring up a
Startup
Menu, where you can choose Safe Mode. Or, some people use the F5 key
in
the
same way, only it immediately boots to Safe Mode, bypassing the
Startup
Menu. Different methods work better for different people and on
different
machines.

If you can't get into Safe Mode, post back for more intricate
solutions.
Otherwise, once you get into Safe Mode, go to StartRun and type in
MSCONFIG, then press enter. When the panel comes up, choose
Selective
Startup, then uncheck the bottom item, "Load Startup group items".
Next,
click on the Advanced button at lower right and in that panel, check
the
item called "Enable Startup Menu". That will make it easier to get
into
whatever modes we may need to get into until this is fixed. Click OK,
then
click OK again on the main panel, then restart when prompted. When the
Startup Menu comes up, choose Normal Mode. (Note that to be safe, you
should
physically disconnect your internet connection at some place between
the
wall and your computer. All your background protective applications
have
been turned off.)

Did that let the system start up? Or not? (Note that this is just the
first
step in diagnostics. Don't try to use the system as it is.)

--
Gary S. Terhune
MS-MVP Shell/User
www.grystmill.com

Thank you for the quick reply, i cannot get in Windows in any way,safe
mode also,thats the problem,i was trying that also,i was trying also
while
the password window comes up,to make fgast ctrl-alt-delete,to open the
task manager to see if something is active,to turn it off,but the task
manager was epmty. i dont want to reinstall the windows also,but i
cannot
find better solution until now. and about the applications, the problem
was that the programs are bought some time ago,and the company is not
giving CD or something,to keep them just in case,they are installiung
it,and taking money,if you have problem after some time,like now,with
the
windows, you should buy again....
As far as i noticed,the problem happened when i tried to install
drivers,
when i was trying to install the audio driver,after the restart,it gave
me
some error message,i dont remember which,something about some stacks i
think?
and i was searching for the problem online and i read that its the
driver,as
i thought,so i went in safe mode and uninstalled the driver,after that
restart,the computer started doing this,after the password request,it
was
making the "updating system settings" and stuck...
So now its not even making the "updating system settings",just stuck
after
the password request...
was this history of the happenings helpfull?





  #17  
Old June 5th 08, 12:10 AM posted to microsoft.public.win98.setup
Gary S. Terhune[_2_]
External Usenet User
 
Posts: 2,158
Default reinstalling Windows 98

Nevermind, I reread your posts and it makes sense. However, you still have
an audio drivers issue. Did you check the link I sent you? (The
failed/botched install of drivers is probably where the error comes from.)

--
Gary S. Terhune
MS-MVP Shell/User
www.grystmill.com

"Vlatko" wrote in message
...

yes,that was from the Registry backup,the OS`s are on separate hard
drives,and i always have the option to choose which to use on start up.why
i
had extremly luck about the start menu?
"Gary S. Terhune" wrote:

This is from restoring a Registry backup?

That error is probably from the mess that was left behind by the audio
drivers package. You can either live with it or try to fix it. I asked
other
questions in that regard.

Yes, please ask questions about Windows XP in a Windows XP newsgroup. But
I
don't understand your dual-boot system. Can't quite picture it. Is your
Windows XP on a separate hard drive? Do you *always* get a choice menu
when
your system boots up? If so, you had extremely good luck getting to the
Startup Menu. If you don't have a choice menu (XP or 98) at startup, how
do
you switch?

--
Gary S. Terhune
MS-MVP Shell/User
www.grystmill.com


"Vlatko" wrote in message
...

How can i describe how happy i am...how can i repay you...
now it enters in windows,it gives some message like "error loading
EGACCESS
4_1069.dll, the system cannot find the file specified",but thats from
before,i guess from some start up program...
and the XP keeps restarting,but i should ask on diferent forum for
that?
Thank you sooo much... Gary...no words can say how calm i am now...
"Gary S. Terhune" wrote:

Note: DO NOT keep trying different Registry backups. You will go
through
all
the possible backups you have, and each Restore creates a new backup
that
pushes the oldest one off into the abyss. If the one backup doesn't
work,
it
is doubtful another will, but we don't want to lose all our options.

Again, only try a SCANREG /RESTORE once.

--
Gary S. Terhune
MS-MVP Shell/User
www.grystmill.com

"Vlatko" wrote in message
...


"Gary S. Terhune" wrote:

Reinstalling "over the top" of an existing installation is not
recommended
except in a last-resort effort to get back into your system and get
your
personal data out in preparation for a full format and reinstall.
An
"over
the top" installation usually leaves a system functioning (but not
always),
but it leaves it functioning poorly due to mismatched system files.
You
have
lots of system files that are newer than the ones Setup installs,
and
while
there are some protections against this, they aren't many.

As for your applications (programs) that you can't find on the
internet,
you
really need to develop a strategy to replace them. Your Windows 98
box
is
going to go completely bad some day, those programs are almost
certainly
NOT
recoverable, and you'd be foolish not to prepare for that day.

But lets see if we can't figure out what's wrong with your system.
First,
can you boot to Safe Mode? In order to boot to Safe Mode, there are
a
few
ways. Try this first: Start or restart the system, and immediately
begin
to
repeatedly press the Ctrl or the F8 key (either one). Don't hold
the
key
down, as that will produce an error. Just repeatedly tap the chosen
key
about once per second or slightly more often. This should bring up
a
Startup
Menu, where you can choose Safe Mode. Or, some people use the F5
key
in
the
same way, only it immediately boots to Safe Mode, bypassing the
Startup
Menu. Different methods work better for different people and on
different
machines.

If you can't get into Safe Mode, post back for more intricate
solutions.
Otherwise, once you get into Safe Mode, go to StartRun and type in
MSCONFIG, then press enter. When the panel comes up, choose
Selective
Startup, then uncheck the bottom item, "Load Startup group items".
Next,
click on the Advanced button at lower right and in that panel,
check
the
item called "Enable Startup Menu". That will make it easier to get
into
whatever modes we may need to get into until this is fixed. Click
OK,
then
click OK again on the main panel, then restart when prompted. When
the
Startup Menu comes up, choose Normal Mode. (Note that to be safe,
you
should
physically disconnect your internet connection at some place
between
the
wall and your computer. All your background protective applications
have
been turned off.)

Did that let the system start up? Or not? (Note that this is just
the
first
step in diagnostics. Don't try to use the system as it is.)

--
Gary S. Terhune
MS-MVP Shell/User
www.grystmill.com

Thank you for the quick reply, i cannot get in Windows in any
way,safe
mode also,thats the problem,i was trying that also,i was trying also
while
the password window comes up,to make fgast ctrl-alt-delete,to open
the
task manager to see if something is active,to turn it off,but the
task
manager was epmty. i dont want to reinstall the windows also,but i
cannot
find better solution until now. and about the applications, the
problem
was that the programs are bought some time ago,and the company is
not
giving CD or something,to keep them just in case,they are
installiung
it,and taking money,if you have problem after some time,like
now,with
the
windows, you should buy again....
As far as i noticed,the problem happened when i tried to install
drivers,
when i was trying to install the audio driver,after the restart,it
gave
me
some error message,i dont remember which,something about some stacks
i
think?
and i was searching for the problem online and i read that its the
driver,as
i thought,so i went in safe mode and uninstalled the driver,after
that
restart,the computer started doing this,after the password
request,it
was
making the "updating system settings" and stuck...
So now its not even making the "updating system settings",just stuck
after
the password request...
was this history of the happenings helpfull?






  #18  
Old June 5th 08, 12:10 AM posted to microsoft.public.win98.setup
Gary S. Terhune[_2_]
External Usenet User
 
Posts: 2,158
Default reinstalling Windows 98

Nevermind, I reread your posts and it makes sense. However, you still have
an audio drivers issue. Did you check the link I sent you? (The
failed/botched install of drivers is probably where the error comes from.)

--
Gary S. Terhune
MS-MVP Shell/User
www.grystmill.com

"Vlatko" wrote in message
...

yes,that was from the Registry backup,the OS`s are on separate hard
drives,and i always have the option to choose which to use on start up.why
i
had extremly luck about the start menu?
"Gary S. Terhune" wrote:

This is from restoring a Registry backup?

That error is probably from the mess that was left behind by the audio
drivers package. You can either live with it or try to fix it. I asked
other
questions in that regard.

Yes, please ask questions about Windows XP in a Windows XP newsgroup. But
I
don't understand your dual-boot system. Can't quite picture it. Is your
Windows XP on a separate hard drive? Do you *always* get a choice menu
when
your system boots up? If so, you had extremely good luck getting to the
Startup Menu. If you don't have a choice menu (XP or 98) at startup, how
do
you switch?

--
Gary S. Terhune
MS-MVP Shell/User
www.grystmill.com


"Vlatko" wrote in message
...

How can i describe how happy i am...how can i repay you...
now it enters in windows,it gives some message like "error loading
EGACCESS
4_1069.dll, the system cannot find the file specified",but thats from
before,i guess from some start up program...
and the XP keeps restarting,but i should ask on diferent forum for
that?
Thank you sooo much... Gary...no words can say how calm i am now...
"Gary S. Terhune" wrote:

Note: DO NOT keep trying different Registry backups. You will go
through
all
the possible backups you have, and each Restore creates a new backup
that
pushes the oldest one off into the abyss. If the one backup doesn't
work,
it
is doubtful another will, but we don't want to lose all our options.

Again, only try a SCANREG /RESTORE once.

--
Gary S. Terhune
MS-MVP Shell/User
www.grystmill.com

"Vlatko" wrote in message
...


"Gary S. Terhune" wrote:

Reinstalling "over the top" of an existing installation is not
recommended
except in a last-resort effort to get back into your system and get
your
personal data out in preparation for a full format and reinstall.
An
"over
the top" installation usually leaves a system functioning (but not
always),
but it leaves it functioning poorly due to mismatched system files.
You
have
lots of system files that are newer than the ones Setup installs,
and
while
there are some protections against this, they aren't many.

As for your applications (programs) that you can't find on the
internet,
you
really need to develop a strategy to replace them. Your Windows 98
box
is
going to go completely bad some day, those programs are almost
certainly
NOT
recoverable, and you'd be foolish not to prepare for that day.

But lets see if we can't figure out what's wrong with your system.
First,
can you boot to Safe Mode? In order to boot to Safe Mode, there are
a
few
ways. Try this first: Start or restart the system, and immediately
begin
to
repeatedly press the Ctrl or the F8 key (either one). Don't hold
the
key
down, as that will produce an error. Just repeatedly tap the chosen
key
about once per second or slightly more often. This should bring up
a
Startup
Menu, where you can choose Safe Mode. Or, some people use the F5
key
in
the
same way, only it immediately boots to Safe Mode, bypassing the
Startup
Menu. Different methods work better for different people and on
different
machines.

If you can't get into Safe Mode, post back for more intricate
solutions.
Otherwise, once you get into Safe Mode, go to StartRun and type in
MSCONFIG, then press enter. When the panel comes up, choose
Selective
Startup, then uncheck the bottom item, "Load Startup group items".
Next,
click on the Advanced button at lower right and in that panel,
check
the
item called "Enable Startup Menu". That will make it easier to get
into
whatever modes we may need to get into until this is fixed. Click
OK,
then
click OK again on the main panel, then restart when prompted. When
the
Startup Menu comes up, choose Normal Mode. (Note that to be safe,
you
should
physically disconnect your internet connection at some place
between
the
wall and your computer. All your background protective applications
have
been turned off.)

Did that let the system start up? Or not? (Note that this is just
the
first
step in diagnostics. Don't try to use the system as it is.)

--
Gary S. Terhune
MS-MVP Shell/User
www.grystmill.com

Thank you for the quick reply, i cannot get in Windows in any
way,safe
mode also,thats the problem,i was trying that also,i was trying also
while
the password window comes up,to make fgast ctrl-alt-delete,to open
the
task manager to see if something is active,to turn it off,but the
task
manager was epmty. i dont want to reinstall the windows also,but i
cannot
find better solution until now. and about the applications, the
problem
was that the programs are bought some time ago,and the company is
not
giving CD or something,to keep them just in case,they are
installiung
it,and taking money,if you have problem after some time,like
now,with
the
windows, you should buy again....
As far as i noticed,the problem happened when i tried to install
drivers,
when i was trying to install the audio driver,after the restart,it
gave
me
some error message,i dont remember which,something about some stacks
i
think?
and i was searching for the problem online and i read that its the
driver,as
i thought,so i went in safe mode and uninstalled the driver,after
that
restart,the computer started doing this,after the password
request,it
was
making the "updating system settings" and stuck...
So now its not even making the "updating system settings",just stuck
after
the password request...
was this history of the happenings helpfull?






  #19  
Old June 5th 08, 12:28 AM posted to microsoft.public.win98.setup
Vlatko
External Usenet User
 
Posts: 11
Default reinstalling Windows 98

Yes,i checked the link with drivers,and that was helpfull,exept something
about the audio drivers,in device manager i see everything ok,exept some
"windigo Virtual Audio Device" is that problem with the sound drivers? i
installed that drivers....

"Gary S. Terhune" wrote:

Nevermind, I reread your posts and it makes sense. However, you still have
an audio drivers issue. Did you check the link I sent you? (The
failed/botched install of drivers is probably where the error comes from.)

--
Gary S. Terhune
MS-MVP Shell/User
www.grystmill.com

"Vlatko" wrote in message
...

yes,that was from the Registry backup,the OS`s are on separate hard
drives,and i always have the option to choose which to use on start up.why
i
had extremly luck about the start menu?
"Gary S. Terhune" wrote:

This is from restoring a Registry backup?

That error is probably from the mess that was left behind by the audio
drivers package. You can either live with it or try to fix it. I asked
other
questions in that regard.

Yes, please ask questions about Windows XP in a Windows XP newsgroup. But
I
don't understand your dual-boot system. Can't quite picture it. Is your
Windows XP on a separate hard drive? Do you *always* get a choice menu
when
your system boots up? If so, you had extremely good luck getting to the
Startup Menu. If you don't have a choice menu (XP or 98) at startup, how
do
you switch?

--
Gary S. Terhune
MS-MVP Shell/User
www.grystmill.com


"Vlatko" wrote in message
...

How can i describe how happy i am...how can i repay you...
now it enters in windows,it gives some message like "error loading
EGACCESS
4_1069.dll, the system cannot find the file specified",but thats from
before,i guess from some start up program...
and the XP keeps restarting,but i should ask on diferent forum for
that?
Thank you sooo much... Gary...no words can say how calm i am now...
"Gary S. Terhune" wrote:

Note: DO NOT keep trying different Registry backups. You will go
through
all
the possible backups you have, and each Restore creates a new backup
that
pushes the oldest one off into the abyss. If the one backup doesn't
work,
it
is doubtful another will, but we don't want to lose all our options.

Again, only try a SCANREG /RESTORE once.

--
Gary S. Terhune
MS-MVP Shell/User
www.grystmill.com

"Vlatko" wrote in message
...


"Gary S. Terhune" wrote:

Reinstalling "over the top" of an existing installation is not
recommended
except in a last-resort effort to get back into your system and get
your
personal data out in preparation for a full format and reinstall.
An
"over
the top" installation usually leaves a system functioning (but not
always),
but it leaves it functioning poorly due to mismatched system files.
You
have
lots of system files that are newer than the ones Setup installs,
and
while
there are some protections against this, they aren't many.

As for your applications (programs) that you can't find on the
internet,
you
really need to develop a strategy to replace them. Your Windows 98
box
is
going to go completely bad some day, those programs are almost
certainly
NOT
recoverable, and you'd be foolish not to prepare for that day.

But lets see if we can't figure out what's wrong with your system.
First,
can you boot to Safe Mode? In order to boot to Safe Mode, there are
a
few
ways. Try this first: Start or restart the system, and immediately
begin
to
repeatedly press the Ctrl or the F8 key (either one). Don't hold
the
key
down, as that will produce an error. Just repeatedly tap the chosen
key
about once per second or slightly more often. This should bring up
a
Startup
Menu, where you can choose Safe Mode. Or, some people use the F5
key
in
the
same way, only it immediately boots to Safe Mode, bypassing the
Startup
Menu. Different methods work better for different people and on
different
machines.

If you can't get into Safe Mode, post back for more intricate
solutions.
Otherwise, once you get into Safe Mode, go to StartRun and type in
MSCONFIG, then press enter. When the panel comes up, choose
Selective
Startup, then uncheck the bottom item, "Load Startup group items".
Next,
click on the Advanced button at lower right and in that panel,
check
the
item called "Enable Startup Menu". That will make it easier to get
into
whatever modes we may need to get into until this is fixed. Click
OK,
then
click OK again on the main panel, then restart when prompted. When
the
Startup Menu comes up, choose Normal Mode. (Note that to be safe,
you
should
physically disconnect your internet connection at some place
between
the
wall and your computer. All your background protective applications
have
been turned off.)

Did that let the system start up? Or not? (Note that this is just
the
first
step in diagnostics. Don't try to use the system as it is.)

--
Gary S. Terhune
MS-MVP Shell/User
www.grystmill.com

Thank you for the quick reply, i cannot get in Windows in any
way,safe
mode also,thats the problem,i was trying that also,i was trying also
while
the password window comes up,to make fgast ctrl-alt-delete,to open
the
task manager to see if something is active,to turn it off,but the
task
manager was epmty. i dont want to reinstall the windows also,but i
cannot
find better solution until now. and about the applications, the
problem
was that the programs are bought some time ago,and the company is
not
giving CD or something,to keep them just in case,they are
installiung
it,and taking money,if you have problem after some time,like
now,with
the
windows, you should buy again....
As far as i noticed,the problem happened when i tried to install
drivers,
when i was trying to install the audio driver,after the restart,it
gave
me
some error message,i dont remember which,something about some stacks
i
think?
and i was searching for the problem online and i read that its the
driver,as
i thought,so i went in safe mode and uninstalled the driver,after
that
restart,the computer started doing this,after the password
request,it
was
making the "updating system settings" and stuck...
So now its not even making the "updating system settings",just stuck
after
the password request...
was this history of the happenings helpfull?







  #20  
Old June 5th 08, 12:28 AM posted to microsoft.public.win98.setup
Vlatko
External Usenet User
 
Posts: 11
Default reinstalling Windows 98

Yes,i checked the link with drivers,and that was helpfull,exept something
about the audio drivers,in device manager i see everything ok,exept some
"windigo Virtual Audio Device" is that problem with the sound drivers? i
installed that drivers....

"Gary S. Terhune" wrote:

Nevermind, I reread your posts and it makes sense. However, you still have
an audio drivers issue. Did you check the link I sent you? (The
failed/botched install of drivers is probably where the error comes from.)

--
Gary S. Terhune
MS-MVP Shell/User
www.grystmill.com

"Vlatko" wrote in message
...

yes,that was from the Registry backup,the OS`s are on separate hard
drives,and i always have the option to choose which to use on start up.why
i
had extremly luck about the start menu?
"Gary S. Terhune" wrote:

This is from restoring a Registry backup?

That error is probably from the mess that was left behind by the audio
drivers package. You can either live with it or try to fix it. I asked
other
questions in that regard.

Yes, please ask questions about Windows XP in a Windows XP newsgroup. But
I
don't understand your dual-boot system. Can't quite picture it. Is your
Windows XP on a separate hard drive? Do you *always* get a choice menu
when
your system boots up? If so, you had extremely good luck getting to the
Startup Menu. If you don't have a choice menu (XP or 98) at startup, how
do
you switch?

--
Gary S. Terhune
MS-MVP Shell/User
www.grystmill.com


"Vlatko" wrote in message
...

How can i describe how happy i am...how can i repay you...
now it enters in windows,it gives some message like "error loading
EGACCESS
4_1069.dll, the system cannot find the file specified",but thats from
before,i guess from some start up program...
and the XP keeps restarting,but i should ask on diferent forum for
that?
Thank you sooo much... Gary...no words can say how calm i am now...
"Gary S. Terhune" wrote:

Note: DO NOT keep trying different Registry backups. You will go
through
all
the possible backups you have, and each Restore creates a new backup
that
pushes the oldest one off into the abyss. If the one backup doesn't
work,
it
is doubtful another will, but we don't want to lose all our options.

Again, only try a SCANREG /RESTORE once.

--
Gary S. Terhune
MS-MVP Shell/User
www.grystmill.com

"Vlatko" wrote in message
...


"Gary S. Terhune" wrote:

Reinstalling "over the top" of an existing installation is not
recommended
except in a last-resort effort to get back into your system and get
your
personal data out in preparation for a full format and reinstall.
An
"over
the top" installation usually leaves a system functioning (but not
always),
but it leaves it functioning poorly due to mismatched system files.
You
have
lots of system files that are newer than the ones Setup installs,
and
while
there are some protections against this, they aren't many.

As for your applications (programs) that you can't find on the
internet,
you
really need to develop a strategy to replace them. Your Windows 98
box
is
going to go completely bad some day, those programs are almost
certainly
NOT
recoverable, and you'd be foolish not to prepare for that day.

But lets see if we can't figure out what's wrong with your system.
First,
can you boot to Safe Mode? In order to boot to Safe Mode, there are
a
few
ways. Try this first: Start or restart the system, and immediately
begin
to
repeatedly press the Ctrl or the F8 key (either one). Don't hold
the
key
down, as that will produce an error. Just repeatedly tap the chosen
key
about once per second or slightly more often. This should bring up
a
Startup
Menu, where you can choose Safe Mode. Or, some people use the F5
key
in
the
same way, only it immediately boots to Safe Mode, bypassing the
Startup
Menu. Different methods work better for different people and on
different
machines.

If you can't get into Safe Mode, post back for more intricate
solutions.
Otherwise, once you get into Safe Mode, go to StartRun and type in
MSCONFIG, then press enter. When the panel comes up, choose
Selective
Startup, then uncheck the bottom item, "Load Startup group items".
Next,
click on the Advanced button at lower right and in that panel,
check
the
item called "Enable Startup Menu". That will make it easier to get
into
whatever modes we may need to get into until this is fixed. Click
OK,
then
click OK again on the main panel, then restart when prompted. When
the
Startup Menu comes up, choose Normal Mode. (Note that to be safe,
you
should
physically disconnect your internet connection at some place
between
the
wall and your computer. All your background protective applications
have
been turned off.)

Did that let the system start up? Or not? (Note that this is just
the
first
step in diagnostics. Don't try to use the system as it is.)

--
Gary S. Terhune
MS-MVP Shell/User
www.grystmill.com

Thank you for the quick reply, i cannot get in Windows in any
way,safe
mode also,thats the problem,i was trying that also,i was trying also
while
the password window comes up,to make fgast ctrl-alt-delete,to open
the
task manager to see if something is active,to turn it off,but the
task
manager was epmty. i dont want to reinstall the windows also,but i
cannot
find better solution until now. and about the applications, the
problem
was that the programs are bought some time ago,and the company is
not
giving CD or something,to keep them just in case,they are
installiung
it,and taking money,if you have problem after some time,like
now,with
the
windows, you should buy again....
As far as i noticed,the problem happened when i tried to install
drivers,
when i was trying to install the audio driver,after the restart,it
gave
me
some error message,i dont remember which,something about some stacks
i
think?
and i was searching for the problem online and i read that its the
driver,as
i thought,so i went in safe mode and uninstalled the driver,after
that
restart,the computer started doing this,after the password
request,it
was
making the "updating system settings" and stuck...
So now its not even making the "updating system settings",just stuck
after
the password request...
was this history of the happenings helpfull?







 




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