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Free Windows ME Registry Cleaners
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Does anyone know of any free registry cleaners that do a great job of cleaning unwanted registry entries from Windows ME? Please reply soon. Thanks. Egan |
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Free Windows ME Registry Cleaners
There are none - unless backed up by a knowledge of the registry from the
user of such tools. -- Noel Paton (MS-MVP 2002-2006, Windows) Nil Carborundum Illegitemi http://www.crashfixpc.com/millsrpch.htm http://tinyurl.com/6oztj Please read http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm on how to post messages to NG's "Egan" wrote in message ... Hi Does anyone know of any free registry cleaners that do a great job of cleaning unwanted registry entries from Windows ME? Please reply soon. Thanks. Egan |
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Noel: What about "RegSeeker", which was recommended in this group, unless I am mistaken and seems to be fairly safe, following the recommendations? I am using it without problems so far and it works good. To my knowledge it must be the only decent one around. Harry. "Noel Paton" wrote in message ... There are none - unless backed up by a knowledge of the registry from the user of such tools. -- Noel Paton (MS-MVP 2002-2006, Windows) Nil Carborundum Illegitemi http://www.crashfixpc.com/millsrpch.htm http://tinyurl.com/6oztj Please read http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm on how to post messages to NG's "Egan" wrote in message ... Hi Does anyone know of any free registry cleaners that do a great job of cleaning unwanted registry entries from Windows ME? Please reply soon. Thanks. Egan |
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Noel,
Far be it from me to "paddle upstream" in your knowledge, however, I have found the last free version (and probably, the pay version) of jv16 Power Tools ver. 1.3 and Crap Cleaner (new version out a short time ago, www.ccleaner.com ) are both quite good. I do monitor what is being removed, but, have never had the need to change anything and, both programs provide a backup that can be kept in the remote instance that something does go awry. Any registry modifying tool does, of course, have to be used judiciously. Do you not find these within the grasp of most any new user, so long as that user understands the need for backup? Sure don't want to step on any toes here, I highly respect your opinions and knowledge. Heirloom, old and humbled by the mere presence "Noel Paton" wrote in message ... There are none - unless backed up by a knowledge of the registry from the user of such tools. -- Noel Paton (MS-MVP 2002-2006, Windows) Nil Carborundum Illegitemi http://www.crashfixpc.com/millsrpch.htm http://tinyurl.com/6oztj Please read http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm on how to post messages to NG's "Egan" wrote in message ... Hi Does anyone know of any free registry cleaners that do a great job of cleaning unwanted registry entries from Windows ME? Please reply soon. Thanks. Egan |
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Free Windows ME Registry Cleaners
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jv16 and Ccleaner are close to being 'best of breed' - but..... I ran Ccleaner a couple of weeks back on my own XP machine, and it found a large number of registry 'problems' - many of which were not problems at all, but were present by design (for whatever reason). clearing out what I felt comfortable with, still left me with a large raft of 'problems' - and even more after I reran the tool. Coincidentally, I started having problems with my Office install - and can't help wondering if this was a contributing factor (especially as another MVP had a similar scenario himself - but we couldn't isolate cause/effect). There's pratfalls, and there's pitfalls - and there's needless risks. There ain't no registry cleaner like knowledge! Just make sure of the knowledge before you act on it g. one to definitely steer clear of is....... you probably guessed it........ NORTON! It's full of false positive, and if you let it do it's thing, you will almost certainly end up having to use System Restore (assuming Live Update hasn't screwed that, as well!) -- Noel Paton (MS-MVP 2002-2006, Windows) Nil Carborundum Illegitemi http://www.crashfixpc.com/millsrpch.htm http://tinyurl.com/6oztj Please read http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm on how to post messages to NG's "Heirloom" wrote in message ... Noel, Far be it from me to "paddle upstream" in your knowledge, however, I have found the last free version (and probably, the pay version) of jv16 Power Tools ver. 1.3 and Crap Cleaner (new version out a short time ago, www.ccleaner.com ) are both quite good. I do monitor what is being removed, but, have never had the need to change anything and, both programs provide a backup that can be kept in the remote instance that something does go awry. Any registry modifying tool does, of course, have to be used judiciously. Do you not find these within the grasp of most any new user, so long as that user understands the need for backup? Sure don't want to step on any toes here, I highly respect your opinions and knowledge. Heirloom, old and humbled by the mere presence "Noel Paton" wrote in message ... There are none - unless backed up by a knowledge of the registry from the user of such tools. -- Noel Paton (MS-MVP 2002-2006, Windows) Nil Carborundum Illegitemi http://www.crashfixpc.com/millsrpch.htm http://tinyurl.com/6oztj Please read http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm on how to post messages to NG's "Egan" wrote in message ... Hi Does anyone know of any free registry cleaners that do a great job of cleaning unwanted registry entries from Windows ME? Please reply soon. Thanks. Egan |
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I haven't used CCleaner - mainly because I see no need - but I get the
impression it's nearest equivalent is EasyCleaner, a product I use for finding duplicate files (it does *this* very well). I occasionally test it's reg cleaning abilities and it appears to have overcome the error potential of the earlier version, but I don't believe this type of cleaner can ever be trusted. The author is unlikely ever to foresee all potential pitfalls, the subject is so complicated. My thoughts on Norton are just about irrelevant these days, the one I sometimes use is so old, but the point was true five years ago and remains true for registry cleaners in general, that their raison d'etre is to enable clueless users to click a button without thinking about it, believing the hype and putting eventual problems down to Windows itself. Regcleaner/jv16 is inherently much more safe, by targeting only a subset of registry keys, of uninstalled software (and it has definate advantages for cleaning up settings that an uninstaller fails to remove). I feel it is about the only product that deserves the accolade of 'safe registry cleaner'. But what those who ask about registry cleaners seem inevitably to want are some comprehensive fantasy kind that doesn't really exist. There is no real need to clean the registry beyond what Regcleaner/jv16 can achieve (though the occasional optimization using either Scanreg or Erunt can be useful). I think what happens is new users use a registry cleaner, see a great list of so-called problems, delete them, and feel really useful, feel like they've taken out the trash. A few more times (still statistically likely to be problem-free) reinforces this and it becomes part of the widespread 'system administrator' addiction. You can no longer tell them, eg Norton is likely to cause problems, they won't listen, they'll put their fingers in their ears, go La La La! and post in a different forum instead. :-) Shane "Noel Paton" wrote in message ... H jv16 and Ccleaner are close to being 'best of breed' - but..... I ran Ccleaner a couple of weeks back on my own XP machine, and it found a large number of registry 'problems' - many of which were not problems at all, but were present by design (for whatever reason). clearing out what I felt comfortable with, still left me with a large raft of 'problems' - and even more after I reran the tool. Coincidentally, I started having problems with my Office install - and can't help wondering if this was a contributing factor (especially as another MVP had a similar scenario himself - but we couldn't isolate cause/effect). There's pratfalls, and there's pitfalls - and there's needless risks. There ain't no registry cleaner like knowledge! Just make sure of the knowledge before you act on it g. one to definitely steer clear of is....... you probably guessed it........ NORTON! It's full of false positive, and if you let it do it's thing, you will almost certainly end up having to use System Restore (assuming Live Update hasn't screwed that, as well!) -- Noel Paton (MS-MVP 2002-2006, Windows) Nil Carborundum Illegitemi http://www.crashfixpc.com/millsrpch.htm http://tinyurl.com/6oztj Please read http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm on how to post messages to NG's "Heirloom" wrote in message ... Noel, Far be it from me to "paddle upstream" in your knowledge, however, I have found the last free version (and probably, the pay version) of jv16 Power Tools ver. 1.3 and Crap Cleaner (new version out a short time ago, www.ccleaner.com ) are both quite good. I do monitor what is being removed, but, have never had the need to change anything and, both programs provide a backup that can be kept in the remote instance that something does go awry. Any registry modifying tool does, of course, have to be used judiciously. Do you not find these within the grasp of most any new user, so long as that user understands the need for backup? Sure don't want to step on any toes here, I highly respect your opinions and knowledge. Heirloom, old and humbled by the mere presence "Noel Paton" wrote in message ... There are none - unless backed up by a knowledge of the registry from the user of such tools. -- Noel Paton (MS-MVP 2002-2006, Windows) Nil Carborundum Illegitemi http://www.crashfixpc.com/millsrpch.htm http://tinyurl.com/6oztj Please read http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm on how to post messages to NG's "Egan" wrote in message ... Hi Does anyone know of any free registry cleaners that do a great job of cleaning unwanted registry entries from Windows ME? Please reply soon. Thanks. Egan |
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Thanks for the breakdown......I did download CrapCleaner and was not very
comfortable with it's definition of a *problem*. I deleted about 2 or 3 obviously obsolete things, but went back to JV16. That one I trust, but I only take out things that I *know* are OK.....I ignore *shared dlls* and the like coz I don't understand them. My vote has to be for the old Microsoft RegClean 1.4.....that one I trusted completely!! But unfortunately it will not work on XP. Put a bug in someone's ear to update that one, grin!! Cheers.....Figgs, who iwill now delete CrapCleaner. Another reason I didn't like it was you either deleted all it found or none at all!! "Noel Paton" wrote in message ... H jv16 and Ccleaner are close to being 'best of breed' - but..... I ran Ccleaner a couple of weeks back on my own XP machine, and it found a large number of registry 'problems' - many of which were not problems at all, but were present by design (for whatever reason). clearing out what I felt comfortable with, still left me with a large raft of 'problems' - and even more after I reran the tool. Coincidentally, I started having problems with my Office install - and can't help wondering if this was a contributing factor (especially as another MVP had a similar scenario himself - but we couldn't isolate cause/effect). There's pratfalls, and there's pitfalls - and there's needless risks. There ain't no registry cleaner like knowledge! Just make sure of the knowledge before you act on it g. one to definitely steer clear of is....... you probably guessed it........ NORTON! It's full of false positive, and if you let it do it's thing, you will almost certainly end up having to use System Restore (assuming Live Update hasn't screwed that, as well!) -- Noel Paton (MS-MVP 2002-2006, Windows) Nil Carborundum Illegitemi http://www.crashfixpc.com/millsrpch.htm http://tinyurl.com/6oztj Please read http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm on how to post messages to NG's "Heirloom" wrote in message ... Noel, Far be it from me to "paddle upstream" in your knowledge, however, I have found the last free version (and probably, the pay version) of jv16 Power Tools ver. 1.3 and Crap Cleaner (new version out a short time ago, www.ccleaner.com ) are both quite good. I do monitor what is being removed, but, have never had the need to change anything and, both programs provide a backup that can be kept in the remote instance that something does go awry. Any registry modifying tool does, of course, have to be used judiciously. Do you not find these within the grasp of most any new user, so long as that user understands the need for backup? Sure don't want to step on any toes here, I highly respect your opinions and knowledge. Heirloom, old and humbled by the mere presence "Noel Paton" wrote in message ... There are none - unless backed up by a knowledge of the registry from the user of such tools. -- Noel Paton (MS-MVP 2002-2006, Windows) Nil Carborundum Illegitemi http://www.crashfixpc.com/millsrpch.htm http://tinyurl.com/6oztj Please read http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm on how to post messages to NG's "Egan" wrote in message ... Hi Does anyone know of any free registry cleaners that do a great job of cleaning unwanted registry entries from Windows ME? Please reply soon. Thanks. Egan |
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Not true, oh almost all knowing one.......when using CC and scanning for
'issues' in the Reg, you can check or uncheck any given item, as well as, backup anything removed. Heirloom, old and backup so much I'm back where I started "Heather" wrote in message ... Thanks for the breakdown......I did download CrapCleaner and was not very comfortable with it's definition of a *problem*. I deleted about 2 or 3 obviously obsolete things, but went back to JV16. That one I trust, but I only take out things that I *know* are OK.....I ignore *shared dlls* and the like coz I don't understand them. My vote has to be for the old Microsoft RegClean 1.4.....that one I trusted completely!! But unfortunately it will not work on XP. Put a bug in someone's ear to update that one, grin!! Cheers.....Figgs, who iwill now delete CrapCleaner. Another reason I didn't like it was you either deleted all it found or none at all!! "Noel Paton" wrote in message ... H jv16 and Ccleaner are close to being 'best of breed' - but..... I ran Ccleaner a couple of weeks back on my own XP machine, and it found a large number of registry 'problems' - many of which were not problems at all, but were present by design (for whatever reason). clearing out what I felt comfortable with, still left me with a large raft of 'problems' - and even more after I reran the tool. Coincidentally, I started having problems with my Office install - and can't help wondering if this was a contributing factor (especially as another MVP had a similar scenario himself - but we couldn't isolate cause/effect). There's pratfalls, and there's pitfalls - and there's needless risks. There ain't no registry cleaner like knowledge! Just make sure of the knowledge before you act on it g. one to definitely steer clear of is....... you probably guessed it........ NORTON! It's full of false positive, and if you let it do it's thing, you will almost certainly end up having to use System Restore (assuming Live Update hasn't screwed that, as well!) -- Noel Paton (MS-MVP 2002-2006, Windows) Nil Carborundum Illegitemi http://www.crashfixpc.com/millsrpch.htm http://tinyurl.com/6oztj Please read http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm on how to post messages to NG's "Heirloom" wrote in message ... Noel, Far be it from me to "paddle upstream" in your knowledge, however, I have found the last free version (and probably, the pay version) of jv16 Power Tools ver. 1.3 and Crap Cleaner (new version out a short time ago, www.ccleaner.com ) are both quite good. I do monitor what is being removed, but, have never had the need to change anything and, both programs provide a backup that can be kept in the remote instance that something does go awry. Any registry modifying tool does, of course, have to be used judiciously. Do you not find these within the grasp of most any new user, so long as that user understands the need for backup? Sure don't want to step on any toes here, I highly respect your opinions and knowledge. Heirloom, old and humbled by the mere presence "Noel Paton" wrote in message ... There are none - unless backed up by a knowledge of the registry from the user of such tools. -- Noel Paton (MS-MVP 2002-2006, Windows) Nil Carborundum Illegitemi http://www.crashfixpc.com/millsrpch.htm http://tinyurl.com/6oztj Please read http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm on how to post messages to NG's "Egan" wrote in message ... Hi Does anyone know of any free registry cleaners that do a great job of cleaning unwanted registry entries from Windows ME? Please reply soon. Thanks. Egan |
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Hey Noel,
Odd about Ccleaner and your Office issues..........I have been using it since one of the other MVP's mentioned it as something he uses and, so far, no probs. Of course, like I said, I monitor anything that is to be changed and do a backup that is kept for a month or so, just to be sure AND I have the Acronis to fall back on. Since my first two cleanings with CC, it has not found any further issues.......I must keep a clean machine g. I wholeheartedly agree with you about N...No....Nor.......N...n......(can't even say the word!!!). Probably the king of bloatware and some of the most invasive I have ever seen....not to mention, virtually impossible to rid your machine of it. I cringe at the thought that I used to have some on my ol' Me box. Just curious, if you thought the CC caused issues with your XP box, could you not have proved this by restoring the entries removed?? Heirloom, old and I KNOW you made a backup... "Noel Paton" wrote in message ... H jv16 and Ccleaner are close to being 'best of breed' - but..... I ran Ccleaner a couple of weeks back on my own XP machine, and it found a large number of registry 'problems' - many of which were not problems at all, but were present by design (for whatever reason). clearing out what I felt comfortable with, still left me with a large raft of 'problems' - and even more after I reran the tool. Coincidentally, I started having problems with my Office install - and can't help wondering if this was a contributing factor (especially as another MVP had a similar scenario himself - but we couldn't isolate cause/effect). There's pratfalls, and there's pitfalls - and there's needless risks. There ain't no registry cleaner like knowledge! Just make sure of the knowledge before you act on it g. one to definitely steer clear of is....... you probably guessed it........ NORTON! It's full of false positive, and if you let it do it's thing, you will almost certainly end up having to use System Restore (assuming Live Update hasn't screwed that, as well!) -- Noel Paton (MS-MVP 2002-2006, Windows) Nil Carborundum Illegitemi http://www.crashfixpc.com/millsrpch.htm http://tinyurl.com/6oztj Please read http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm on how to post messages to NG's "Heirloom" wrote in message ... Noel, Far be it from me to "paddle upstream" in your knowledge, however, I have found the last free version (and probably, the pay version) of jv16 Power Tools ver. 1.3 and Crap Cleaner (new version out a short time ago, www.ccleaner.com ) are both quite good. I do monitor what is being removed, but, have never had the need to change anything and, both programs provide a backup that can be kept in the remote instance that something does go awry. Any registry modifying tool does, of course, have to be used judiciously. Do you not find these within the grasp of most any new user, so long as that user understands the need for backup? Sure don't want to step on any toes here, I highly respect your opinions and knowledge. Heirloom, old and humbled by the mere presence "Noel Paton" wrote in message ... There are none - unless backed up by a knowledge of the registry from the user of such tools. -- Noel Paton (MS-MVP 2002-2006, Windows) Nil Carborundum Illegitemi http://www.crashfixpc.com/millsrpch.htm http://tinyurl.com/6oztj Please read http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm on how to post messages to NG's "Egan" wrote in message ... Hi Does anyone know of any free registry cleaners that do a great job of cleaning unwanted registry entries from Windows ME? Please reply soon. Thanks. Egan |
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Yes, I could have restored the backup - but the error didn't apparently
tally with any of the 10 sets of backup data that I had, and I just wanted the damned thing fixed, so installed the LISTool and rebuilt the MSOCache. -- Noel Paton (MS-MVP 2002-2006, Windows) Nil Carborundum Illegitemi http://www.crashfixpc.com/millsrpch.htm http://tinyurl.com/6oztj Please read http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm on how to post messages to NG's "Heirloom" wrote in message ... Hey Noel, Odd about Ccleaner and your Office issues..........I have been using it since one of the other MVP's mentioned it as something he uses and, so far, no probs. Of course, like I said, I monitor anything that is to be changed and do a backup that is kept for a month or so, just to be sure AND I have the Acronis to fall back on. Since my first two cleanings with CC, it has not found any further issues.......I must keep a clean machine g. I wholeheartedly agree with you about N...No....Nor.......N...n......(can't even say the word!!!). Probably the king of bloatware and some of the most invasive I have ever seen....not to mention, virtually impossible to rid your machine of it. I cringe at the thought that I used to have some on my ol' Me box. Just curious, if you thought the CC caused issues with your XP box, could you not have proved this by restoring the entries removed?? Heirloom, old and I KNOW you made a backup... |
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