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can't start OS anymore
Hi everyone,
I'm using Win 98 on a Pentium III, and I just started having this problem. The other day, when I clicked on the Start menu, the system froze, and when I tried pressing Ctrl-Alt-Del, the blue error screen(Blue Screen of Death!) came up. So I restarted the computer, but instead of the OS starting up, I got this message: DISK BOOT FAILURE. INSERT SYSTEM DISK AND PRESS ENTER: I tried turning off the computer and restarting it, but the message still came up. This isn't normal, since the OS usually loads automatically. I tried changing the boot sequence in the BIOS setup to load the C: drive before the floppy and CD-ROM drives, but that didn't help anything. So this would seem to indicate there is a problem with the hard disk itself. I don't know if getting a startup floppy disk or CD will solve the problem. It wouldn't be too difficult for me to get one, but I think it'd just be a temporary fix, since the real problem is with the hard drive. I don't know if it has anything to do with the problem, but my C: drive was almost full before this happened. I'd greatly appreciate any advice you can give me. Thanks, in advance, for any help. Satish Sivaprakasapillai Toronto, Canada |
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Eject any floppy or CD left in a drive. Does it still happen? Then...
I guess do go into BIOS first, to see settings weren't mussed that may upset the "geometry" of it. I don't know what you might look for, but I have two guesses... (1) I guess "Reset to defaults & exit" is a viable choice. (2) I suppose that means it will Auto-Detect the hard drives. Here is what I know of the MBR and partition boot sectors. "Fdisk /mbr" will restore Microsoft "boot code" to the Master Boot Record of the boot HDD, usually the Primary Master. (This perhaps should not be done, if you have a drive overlay in the MBR or if you suspect a boot sector virus. The drive overlay would have to be restored in the first case.) Boot code in the MBR, as I understand, searches the partition table, also in the MBR, for the one that is Active. The boot sector of the Active partition is hard-coded with the name of the OPERATING SYSTEM that the boot code must load. For Win98, that OS is IO.sys (DOS), which eventually leads to Windows. The other portion of the MBR, the partition table, normally is not disturbed by "Fdisk /MBR". The partition table contains the dimensions of the partitions and is updated only when the partitions are created or resized. However, /MBR may combine multiple partitions into a single one. It will do so, if it discovers a missing End-Of-Sector marker (55AA) in the MBR sector. This may result in a "mess of goo", says Blanton, if you had multiple partitions, per http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=149877 Boot Record Signature AA55 Not Found (1) (a) Hold Ctrl as you boot for the Startup Menu, if it hasn't already been activated at "START, Run, MSConfig, Advanced button". Select to boot to the "Command Prompt Only" (DOS). .......Start...Quote from Windows 98 Secrets (Livingston/Straub)..... Ctrl or F8: Starts the Windows 98 Startup Menu. You need to hold down the Ctrl key before the DOS bootup process begins. If you have quick fingers you can press the F8 key in between the end of the power-on self test & the beginning of the DOS bootup phase. .......End........ (b) Alternatively, get a Startup Diskette from http://www.bootdisk.com/ , if you don't already have one from "Control Panel, Add/Remove Programs, Startup Disk tab". Put the diskette in & turn on the computer. (2) Enter "DIR C:". Did you get a listing or an error message? If a listing, then... things to consider.... (1) Perhaps enter "SYS C:". This will copy certain system files (IO.sys, Command.com & perhaps MSDOS.sys) from the Startup Diskette to C:\. (It also sets the BPB drive number to HD0, so that it is now in the bootstrap. It does so, no matter whether it is HD0. To boot it, one must still move it to be HD0, however.) You may now be able to boot to Windows, if all folders are intact. If not, some further adjustment need be done to "MSDOS.sys", that was copied to C:\. The floppy has just a shell of it. Well, remove the floppy & boot. Oh gosh! Here are some warnings from Jeff Richards, MS MVP W95/W98, about "SYS C:". DON'T DO IT, he says, if: (a) "Major errors were reported in Scandisk." (b) "A drive is moved from one machine to another", because of the next two, maybe. (c) "The BIOS setting for a drive is changed (eg, LBA to LARGE)." (d) "A drive that uses overlay software is operated without the overlay loaded." (2) Enter "FDISK /MBR" This will rewrite the code portion of the Master Boot Record, leaving the Partition Table untouched, except it may muss the partition table, if there is a missing End-Of-Sector marker (55AA), per http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=149877 Boot Record Signature AA55 Not Found Here are the warnings against it... (a) If you have a boot sector virus, you may lose access to all partitions. Then http://www.terabyteunlimited.com/utilities.html MBRWork "might" help to recover them. (b) If you have "overlay" code in the MBR, e.g., EZ-BIOS, Maxblast, a boot manager, then that will need to be reestablished afterwards. http://www.aefdisk.com/ FDISK & Boot Manager http://support.microsoft.com/kb/q245162/ Cannot Access Hard Disk After Booting from Floppy Disk (c) FDISK may be buggy. So? Use MBRWork to do it, or http://support.microsoft.com/default...;en-us;Q263044 Latest FDISK, hoping this one doesn't have any bugs. (But it doesn't solve the 55AA thing.) (d) If for some reason the "geometry" setting in BIOS does not match the hard drive, then any write to the drive may be destructive. So, go into BIOS and have it "automatically detect" the proper setting. (If you can DIR the drive in DOS, then you have proven the geometry is probably all right, though Blanton has said it may not be so under a certain rare circumstance.) (3) (a) Boot to DOS. (Hold CTRL as you boot for the Startup Menu, & select "Command Prompt Only".) (b) Scandisk /Checkonly Might be wise to know beforehand what it intends to fix. Will display on screen & get written to "C:\Scandisk.log". NOTE: Steps (b) & (c) may take QUITE a while to complete. (c) Scandisk Let it fix, if it didn't sound horrible. Otherwise, post what it said. In Dos, you may see "C:\Scandisk.log" this way... EDIT C:\Scandisk.log Alt-F-X (pressed separately) to exit EDIT. (TAB to traverse buttons.) ........Quote....... You should run the diagnostics for the brand of hard drive that is in the computer. If you don't know what brand the drive is, you can download the limited-use free edition of OnTrack Data Advisor from this location: http://www.ontrack.com/freesoftware/#dataadvisor When you click the download link on that page for Data Advisor 5.0 Free edition, you will be taken to a page to register with the OnTrack site, then you will be able to download the diskette creator file. The downloads are diskette creators. They are to be run once from a working Windows system and will guide you through the process of extracting the Data Advisor onto a 3.5" floppy disk. Download and Use Instructions: http://www.ontrack.com/dataadvisor/downloadinfo.asp Hard Drive Diagnostic Programs by Vendor: OnTrack Data Advisor: http://www.ontrack.com/freesoftware/#dataadvisor IBM/Hitachi Drive Fitness Test: http://www.hgst.com/hdd/support/download.htm Western Digital Data Lifeguard Tools: http://support.wdc.com/download/ Quantum/Maxtor PowerMax: http://www.maxtor.com/en/support/downloads/powermax.htm Seagate SeaTools: http://www.seagate.com/support/seatools/index.html Download: http://www.seagate.com/support/seatools/B7a.html http://www.seagate.com/support/seato...toold_reg.html -- Glen Ventura, MS MVP W95/98 Systems http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm ......End.of... URLs of Glee... -- Thanks or Good Luck, There may be humor in this post, and, Naturally, you will not sue, should things get worse after this, PCR "Satish Sivaprakasapillai" Satish wrote in message ... | Hi everyone, | | I'm using Win 98 on a Pentium III, and I just started having this problem. | The other day, when I clicked on the Start menu, the system froze, and when I | tried pressing Ctrl-Alt-Del, the blue error screen(Blue Screen of Death!) | came up. So I restarted the computer, but instead of the OS starting up, I | got this message: | | DISK BOOT FAILURE. INSERT SYSTEM DISK AND PRESS ENTER: | | I tried turning off the computer and restarting it, but the message still | came up. This isn't normal, since the OS usually loads automatically. I tried | changing the boot sequence in the BIOS setup to load the C: drive before the | floppy and CD-ROM drives, but that didn't help anything. So this would seem | to indicate there is a problem with the hard disk itself. | | I don't know if getting a startup floppy disk or CD will solve the problem. | It wouldn't be too difficult for me to get one, but I think it'd just be a | temporary fix, since the real problem is with the hard drive. | | I don't know if it has anything to do with the problem, but my C: drive was | almost full before this happened. | | I'd greatly appreciate any advice you can give me. Thanks, in advance, for | any help. | | | Satish Sivaprakasapillai | Toronto, Canada |
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