Display Adapter - Update Drivers Yes/No ?

Hello,
Need help not sure if I should try to update display adapter drivers for
98SE ? The MB is a ASUS P4SGX-MX, Celeron 2000Ghz. I have the support CD
and I'm currently using the software & driver pkgs on from the support CD.
This is the stats for the main drivers for super vga display.

Product: SiS 650
Softwa VS. 2.12
Driver VS: 2.12
12-02-2002
Chipset: SIS 650GX
SIS 962L
VGA SIS Real256 Graphics

Driver: sisgl.dll - Super VGA OpenGL ICD
File Date: 12/2/2002 4:47 PM
Company Name: Silicon Integrated Systems Corporation
File Version: 4.13.01.2120
Driver: sisdx32.dll - Super VGA DirectX Driver 32 Bit
File Date: 11/21/2002 11:00 AM
Company Name: Silicon Integrated Systems Corporation
File Version: 4.13.01.2120
Driver: sisdx.dll - Super VGA DirectX Driver 16 Bit
File Date: 11/21/2002 11:01 AM
Company Name: Silicon Integrated Systems Corporation
File Version: 4.13.01.2120
Driver: sisgr.vxd - Virtual Display Minidriver
File Date: 11/28/2002 3:14 PM
Company Name: Silicon Integrated Systems Corporation
File Version: 4.13.01.2120
Driver: sisgr.drv - Super VGA Display Driver
File Date: 11/28/2002 3:17 PM
Company Name: Silicon Integrated Systems Corporation
File Version: 4.13.01.2120

I was initially dual booting, I also had Win-XP Prof. The drivers for
Win-XP were always right-on, the pkg. for 98-SE shows up as *Compatible*
when you install and I don't have many settings for 98-SE in comparison to
Win-XP, many functions just arn't available, etc...

I would like to update the drivers for the display adapter, however I'm very
confused as to what I should download. I don't want to do the entire pkg.
since it's a compatible pkg.

I'm nervous about this... because I was not smart and took the one driver
that was offered once and it totally crashed the puter, actually the
monitor, not the puter. After, the monitor was *out-of-range* and I
couldn't see the desktop of course. And, it took me 3 days to get the timing
right to get into safe mode and fix the problem.

Should I get the driver update from ASUS vs. the SIS site.... if I go to
ASUS, they are displayed on my MB site which is, link to the ASUS
P4SGX-MX.....
http://www.asus.com.tw/support/downl...lName=P4SGX-MX... I'm
not sure and possibly, I'm already using the best drivers??

I've went to SIS site and click on downloads, highlight display, choose 98SE
and SIS 650 and it seems I'm already using the best drivers for 98SE,
however my drivers are from Dec. 2002, therefore seem old, but then 98SE has
been around since 1999.

I would appreciate guidance, and if I should update, which is the best
compatable pick !! I downloaded an entire pkg. approx. 1 year ago from SIS,
it was drivers and the the software. Unfortunately, I had the same problem
that I experienced at Windows Update.... monitor *out of range*, bad
problem!! The driver that is at Windows Update, I have looked at iit's
stats and it is older than the one I'm using, however I learned the hard
way, after the fact.

Thank you,

Star

The updated SIS650GX chipset can be obtained he
http://www.sis.com/download/download_step1.php

You can also try:
SiS Chipset Identification Online Utility
http://www.sis.com/support/support_prodid.htm

The SiS Online Chipset Identification System helps you to identify the chipset
model of your SiS-based system. By using this tool, it will direct you to
download the correct driver for your needs.

--

Brian A. Sesko
{ MS MVP_Shell/User }
Conflicts start where information lacks.
http://www.dts-l.org/goodpost.htm
http://basconotw.mvps.org/



"Star" wrote in message
...
Hello,
Need help not sure if I should try to update display adapter drivers for
98SE ? The MB is a ASUS P4SGX-MX, Celeron 2000Ghz. I have the support CD
and I'm currently using the software & driver pkgs on from the support CD.
This is the stats for the main drivers for super vga display.

Product: SiS 650
Softwa VS. 2.12
Driver VS: 2.12
12-02-2002
Chipset: SIS 650GX
SIS 962L
VGA SIS Real256 Graphics

Driver: sisgl.dll - Super VGA OpenGL ICD
File Date: 12/2/2002 4:47 PM
Company Name: Silicon Integrated Systems Corporation
File Version: 4.13.01.2120
Driver: sisdx32.dll - Super VGA DirectX Driver 32 Bit
File Date: 11/21/2002 11:00 AM
Company Name: Silicon Integrated Systems Corporation
File Version: 4.13.01.2120
Driver: sisdx.dll - Super VGA DirectX Driver 16 Bit
File Date: 11/21/2002 11:01 AM
Company Name: Silicon Integrated Systems Corporation
File Version: 4.13.01.2120
Driver: sisgr.vxd - Virtual Display Minidriver
File Date: 11/28/2002 3:14 PM
Company Name: Silicon Integrated Systems Corporation
File Version: 4.13.01.2120
Driver: sisgr.drv - Super VGA Display Driver
File Date: 11/28/2002 3:17 PM
Company Name: Silicon Integrated Systems Corporation
File Version: 4.13.01.2120

I was initially dual booting, I also had Win-XP Prof. The drivers for
Win-XP were always right-on, the pkg. for 98-SE shows up as *Compatible*
when you install and I don't have many settings for 98-SE in comparison to
Win-XP, many functions just arn't available, etc...

I would like to update the drivers for the display adapter, however I'm very
confused as to what I should download. I don't want to do the entire pkg.
since it's a compatible pkg.

I'm nervous about this... because I was not smart and took the one driver
that was offered once and it totally crashed the puter, actually the
monitor, not the puter. After, the monitor was *out-of-range* and I
couldn't see the desktop of course. And, it took me 3 days to get the timing
right to get into safe mode and fix the problem.

Should I get the driver update from ASUS vs. the SIS site.... if I go to
ASUS, they are displayed on my MB site which is, link to the ASUS
P4SGX-MX.....
http://www.asus.com.tw/support/downl...lName=P4SGX-MX... I'm
not sure and possibly, I'm already using the best drivers??

I've went to SIS site and click on downloads, highlight display, choose 98SE
and SIS 650 and it seems I'm already using the best drivers for 98SE,
however my drivers are from Dec. 2002, therefore seem old, but then 98SE has
been around since 1999.

I would appreciate guidance, and if I should update, which is the best
compatable pick !! I downloaded an entire pkg. approx. 1 year ago from SIS,
it was drivers and the the software. Unfortunately, I had the same problem
that I experienced at Windows Update.... monitor *out of range*, bad
problem!! The driver that is at Windows Update, I have looked at iit's
stats and it is older than the one I'm using, however I learned the hard
way, after the fact.

Thank you,

Star

Brian,
Like I mentioned, I previously had both 98SE & W-XP. I've been to the SIS
site and I have done the chip identification tool in the past.... but not
w/the install of Win that I currently have. Unfortunately I'm having trouble
running the activeX controls at this time. Tried earlier today. I removed
the controls from the Downloaded Program flldr, two controls are placed by
SIS, both controls remove, but one w/message *unable to unregister*,
possibly it never registered, cause SIS kept repeatedly telling me to
install the tool, probably because it *never installed completely*. I
never rec'd the security messages that you get for activeX downloads.

I did do the one step, since I have the MB book.

This is my problem, 650GX is for W-XP, mine is identified as Product: SiS
650, Chip M650 Rev 00, this is the **Display advanced settings**, SiS info
pkg.

In the Device Mgr. also it is listed as SiS 650. I've learned this, 98SE
does not like 650GX, and like I mentioned the Sis 650 was installed from the
MB CD. Yes, in W-XP it showed up as 650GX and I had neat stuff and plenty
of controls, I hardly have nada in 98SE, just Gamma & Video basically. Now,
I hope you can understand why I'm confused and don't update the display
adapter ??

I'm lost on this... I have brought up the Display Drivers on both the SiS &
ASUS sites and I look for 650 not 650GX, and it appears I'm stuck w/what I
have. I do see my driver pkg. and it is truly identified differently than
the others!! I did download 1 yr. ago the newest 650GX pkg. from SIS, the
install went well, restart the puter and the monitor is out of range. Why
would the monitor be out of range and go dark, because the driver is wrong,
correct ???

If you can help me more would appreciate, I know not to go for the 650GX but
I would think I could get a newer driver than Dec. 2002, more thoughts pls.

Star

"Brian A." gonefish'n@afarawaylake wrote in message
...
The updated SIS650GX chipset can be obtained he
http://www.sis.com/download/download_step1.php

You can also try:
SiS Chipset Identification Online Utility
http://www.sis.com/support/support_prodid.htm

The SiS Online Chipset Identification System helps you to identify the
chipset
model of your SiS-based system. By using this tool, it will direct you to
download the correct driver for your needs.

--

Brian A. Sesko
{ MS MVP_Shell/User }
Conflicts start where information lacks.
http://www.dts-l.org/goodpost.htm
http://basconotw.mvps.org/



"Star" wrote in message
...
Hello,
Need help not sure if I should try to update display adapter drivers for
98SE ? The MB is a ASUS P4SGX-MX, Celeron 2000Ghz. I have the support
CD
and I'm currently using the software & driver pkgs on from the support
CD.
This is the stats for the main drivers for super vga display.

Product: SiS 650
Softwa VS. 2.12
Driver VS: 2.12
12-02-2002
Chipset: SIS 650GX
SIS 962L
VGA SIS Real256 Graphics

Driver: sisgl.dll - Super VGA OpenGL ICD
File Date: 12/2/2002 4:47 PM
Company Name: Silicon Integrated Systems Corporation
File Version: 4.13.01.2120
Driver: sisdx32.dll - Super VGA DirectX Driver 32 Bit
File Date: 11/21/2002 11:00 AM
Company Name: Silicon Integrated Systems Corporation
File Version: 4.13.01.2120
Driver: sisdx.dll - Super VGA DirectX Driver 16 Bit
File Date: 11/21/2002 11:01 AM
Company Name: Silicon Integrated Systems Corporation
File Version: 4.13.01.2120
Driver: sisgr.vxd - Virtual Display Minidriver
File Date: 11/28/2002 3:14 PM
Company Name: Silicon Integrated Systems Corporation
File Version: 4.13.01.2120
Driver: sisgr.drv - Super VGA Display Driver
File Date: 11/28/2002 3:17 PM
Company Name: Silicon Integrated Systems Corporation
File Version: 4.13.01.2120

I was initially dual booting, I also had Win-XP Prof. The drivers for
Win-XP were always right-on, the pkg. for 98-SE shows up as *Compatible*
when you install and I don't have many settings for 98-SE in comparison
to
Win-XP, many functions just arn't available, etc...

I would like to update the drivers for the display adapter, however I'm
very
confused as to what I should download. I don't want to do the entire
pkg.
since it's a compatible pkg.

I'm nervous about this... because I was not smart and took the one
driver
that was offered once and it totally crashed the puter, actually the
monitor, not the puter. After, the monitor was *out-of-range* and I
couldn't see the desktop of course. And, it took me 3 days to get the
timing
right to get into safe mode and fix the problem.

Should I get the driver update from ASUS vs. the SIS site.... if I go to
ASUS, they are displayed on my MB site which is, link to the ASUS
P4SGX-MX.....
http://www.asus.com.tw/support/downl...lName=P4SGX-MX...
I'm
not sure and possibly, I'm already using the best drivers??

I've went to SIS site and click on downloads, highlight display, choose
98SE
and SIS 650 and it seems I'm already using the best drivers for 98SE,
however my drivers are from Dec. 2002, therefore seem old, but then 98SE
has
been around since 1999.

I would appreciate guidance, and if I should update, which is the best
compatable pick !! I downloaded an entire pkg. approx. 1 year ago from
SIS,
it was drivers and the the software. Unfortunately, I had the same
problem
that I experienced at Windows Update.... monitor *out of range*, bad
problem!! The driver that is at Windows Update, I have looked at iit's
stats and it is older than the one I'm using, however I learned the hard
way, after the fact.

Thank you,

Star

"Star" wrote in message
...
Brian,
Like I mentioned, I previously had both 98SE & W-XP. I've been to the SIS
site and I have done the chip identification tool in the past.... but not
w/the install of Win that I currently have. Unfortunately I'm having trouble
running the activeX controls at this time. Tried earlier today. I removed
the controls from the Downloaded Program flldr, two controls are placed by
SIS, both controls remove, but one w/message *unable to unregister*,
possibly it never registered, cause SIS kept repeatedly telling me to
install the tool, probably because it *never installed completely*. I
never rec'd the security messages that you get for activeX downloads.

I did do the one step, since I have the MB book.

This is my problem, 650GX is for W-XP, mine is identified as Product: SiS
650, Chip M650 Rev 00, this is the **Display advanced settings**, SiS info
pkg.

In the Device Mgr. also it is listed as SiS 650. I've learned this, 98SE
does not like 650GX, and like I mentioned the Sis 650 was installed from the
MB CD. Yes, in W-XP it showed up as 650GX and I had neat stuff and plenty
of controls, I hardly have nada in 98SE, just Gamma & Video basically. Now,
I hope you can understand why I'm confused and don't update the display
adapter ??

You shouldn't be confused. XP and 98 are different birds of a feather and will
have different configs/options/settings. An updated driver may or may not
provide more options, yet it may have a fix for an issue for the prior
chip/adapter driver version. If you're having problems with newer drivers
another thing to look into is the BIOS ver., some newer driver updates may also
require an updated BIOS.


I'm lost on this... I have brought up the Display Drivers on both the SiS &
ASUS sites and I look for 650 not 650GX, and it appears I'm stuck w/what I
have. I do see my driver pkg. and it is truly identified differently than
the others!! I did download 1 yr. ago the newest 650GX pkg. from SIS, the
install went well, restart the puter and the monitor is out of range. Why
would the monitor be out of range and go dark, because the driver is wrong,
correct ???

If you can help me more would appreciate, I know not to go for the 650GX but
I would think I could get a newer driver than Dec. 2002, more thoughts pls.

The drivers at Asus and SIS are dated 2004.

The drivers at the link I provided are the drivers for your integrated
graphics. Driver packages may, will and do many times include drivers for
multiple chips and OS's. That is why it is always very important to read the
installation instructions provided by the manufacturer, also included in most
downloads, definitely included in the Asus and SIS d/l's.


--

Brian A. Sesko
{ MS MVP_Shell/User }
Conflicts start where information lacks.
http://www.dts-l.org/goodpost.htm
http://basconotw.mvps.org/

Thanks Brian for further input,
snip
You shouldn't be confused. XP and 98 are different birds of a feather and
will
have different configs/options/settings. An updated driver may or may not
provide more options, yet it may have a fix for an issue for the prior
chip/adapter driver version. If you're having problems with newer drivers
another thing to look into is the BIOS ver., some newer driver updates may
also
require an updated BIOS.

*** I have never updated the BIOS on this celeron 4 machine. I've been
looking at the MB book and it does give me info and directions on how to do
this. I do note a **warning** only update the BIOS if you are having
trouble w/MB ?? However, I have the directions to save the my current Bios
and can revert back if something goes wrong!! It will be my first time
doing this so I will be nervous!! I've learned much from this newsgroup,
however some tasks and TS come easier than others for me. I'm really not a
hands-on TS, hate inside the case TS, but will TS OS problems, partition and
install OS, drivers and can within my limitations reasonably tweak Windows.
Also Brian this is not my first experience w/SiS chipsets, had them also on
my Celeron 3 Jetway MB, SiS 630 display chipset and the audio chip is the
sameone I had on the Jetway, 7012. However, never had a problem updating the
display adapter, but the MB capacitors leaked and the MB was replaced and
the CPU.

I'm lost on this... I have brought up the Display Drivers on both the
SiS &
ASUS sites and I look for 650 not 650GX, and it appears I'm stuck w/what
I
have. I do see my driver pkg. and it is truly identified differently
than
the others!! I did download 1 yr. ago the newest 650GX pkg. from SIS,
the
install went well, restart the puter and the monitor is out of range.
Why
would the monitor be out of range and go dark, because the driver is
wrong,
correct ???

If you can help me more would appreciate, I know not to go for the 650GX
but
I would think I could get a newer driver than Dec. 2002, more thoughts
pls.

The drivers at Asus and SIS are dated 2004.

Using the 1-2-3 @ SiS, I get these pkgs., neither are 2004. The last one I
tried maybe a yr. ago and it appeared to go great until I restarted and I
had monitor out of range. Yes, they are huge integrated pkgs. and it's like
using the support CD, and there is not really much for the user to do except
direct Win to the 98SE and ME combined driver fldr.

650_221_win98me.zip
Version
v2.21
Release date
2003-11-18
Product supported
SiS651, SiS650, SiS740, SiS650GL, SiSM650, SiS650GX,
File size
20,452KB
OS supported
Windows 98 SE, Windows 98, Windows ME,

SiS UniVGA3 Graphics Driver
File name
uvga3_367.zip
Version
v3.67
Release date
2005-04-15
Product supported
SiSM650, SiS760, SiS741GX, SiS740, SiS741, SiS651, SiS650GX, SiS650GL,
SiS650, SiSM741, SiSM661MX, SiSM661FX,
File size
16,546KB
OS supported
Windows ME, Windows XP, Windows 2000, Windows 98 SE, Windows 98, Windows XP
64-Bit Edition,

What about after what appears a successful install, the puter restarts and
the *monitor is out of range* ?? That is so.o.o nasty and I've just
determined that it was cuz the drivers were wrong, pls. comment ??

The drivers at the link I provided are the drivers for your integrated
graphics. Driver packages may, will and do many times include drivers for
multiple chips and OS's. That is why it is always very important to read
the
installation instructions provided by the manufacturer, also included in
most
downloads, definitely included in the Asus and SIS d/l's.

*** Could I do this, do you recommend. Let's say, I do the big download of
the 1st pkg. Could I do just a driver update via the Device Mgr. by using
update driver and browse and manually just install the drivers. Wouldn't
this work for me instead of uninstalling what I have and installing the
entire software as well as the drivers, pls. comment ? I can be fine with
the s/w I have but would just like the newer drivers.

Thank you kindly,
Star

Brian A. Sesko
{ MS MVP_Shell/User }
Conflicts start where information lacks.
http://www.dts-l.org/goodpost.htm
http://basconotw.mvps.org/

Rule number two for flashing BIOS (rule #1 is "If it ain't broke...")

Make sure you have the system on a well charged, tested, dependable
battery backup UPS. If the operation is interrupted for *any* reason,
the BIOS chip is toast--you would need to find someone with a bench
setup to reprogram it or simply purchase another. I've had it happen to
me. Puts a real damper on the party. Only positive side was that the
newer BIOS chip actually worked better.

--
Gary S. Terhune
MS MVP Shell/User
http://www.grystmill.com/articles/cleanboot.htm
http://www.grystmill.com/articles/security.htm

"Star" wrote in message
...
*** I have never updated the BIOS on this celeron 4 machine. I've been
looking at the MB book and it does give me info and directions on how
to do
this. I do note a **warning** only update the BIOS if you are having
trouble w/MB ?? However, I have the directions to save the my current
Bios
and can revert back if something goes wrong!! It will be my first
time
doing this so I will be nervous!! I've learned much from this
newsgroup,
however some tasks and TS come easier than others for me. I'm really
not a
hands-on TS, hate inside the case TS, but will TS OS problems,
partition and
install OS, drivers and can within my limitations reasonably tweak
Windows.
Also Brian this is not my first experience w/SiS chipsets, had them
also on
my Celeron 3 Jetway MB, SiS 630 display chipset and the audio chip is
the
sameone I had on the Jetway, 7012. However, never had a problem
updating the
display adapter, but the MB capacitors leaked and the MB was replaced
and
the CPU.

"Star" wrote in message
...
Thanks Brian for further input,
snip
You shouldn't be confused. XP and 98 are different birds of a feather and
will
have different configs/options/settings. An updated driver may or may not
provide more options, yet it may have a fix for an issue for the prior
chip/adapter driver version. If you're having problems with newer drivers
another thing to look into is the BIOS ver., some newer driver updates may
also
require an updated BIOS.

*** I have never updated the BIOS on this celeron 4 machine.

And you don't want to if not necessary. I see Gary has summed it up in a
nutshell, so I'll leave it at that.

Why
would the monitor be out of range and go dark, because the driver is
wrong,
correct ???

My first thoughts would be corrupted drivers, bad install or incompatibility.


If you can help me more would appreciate, I know not to go for the 650GX
but
I would think I could get a newer driver than Dec. 2002, more thoughts
pls.

The drivers at Asus and SIS are dated 2004.

Using the 1-2-3 @ SiS, I get these pkgs., neither are 2004.

My bad, you're right, they're dated 2003 & 2005.

What about after what appears a successful install, the puter restarts and
the *monitor is out of range* ?? That is so.o.o nasty and I've just
determined that it was cuz the drivers were wrong, pls. comment ??

See above.

The drivers at the link I provided are the drivers for your integrated
graphics. Driver packages may, will and do many times include drivers for
multiple chips and OS's. That is why it is always very important to read
the
installation instructions provided by the manufacturer, also included in
most
downloads, definitely included in the Asus and SIS d/l's.

*** Could I do this, do you recommend. Let's say, I do the big download of
the 1st pkg. Could I do just a driver update via the Device Mgr. by using
update driver and browse and manually just install the drivers. Wouldn't
this work for me instead of uninstalling what I have and installing the
entire software as well as the drivers, pls. comment ?

As I mentioned, read the installation instructions provided with the d/l, you
have less of a chance for problems then. Even though your chipset is an SIS,
since Asus has the drivers you may want to go that route first. After all, they
should know what drivers to use on their mobos.


--

Brian A. Sesko
{ MS MVP_Shell/User }
Conflicts start where information lacks.
http://www.dts-l.org/goodpost.htm
http://basconotw.mvps.org/

PCR Pro,
Pls. give me some feedback regarding my display adapter, can you pls. read
this post and the other post I wrote in this thread.

Thank, Star.

Thanks, Star
"Star" wrote in message
...
Hello,
Need help not sure if I should try to update display adapter drivers for
98SE ? The MB is a ASUS P4SGX-MX, Celeron 2000Ghz. I have the support CD
and I'm currently using the software & driver pkgs on from the support CD.
This is the stats for the main drivers for super vga display.

Product: SiS 650
Softwa VS. 2.12
Driver VS: 2.12
12-02-2002
Chipset: SIS 650GX
SIS 962L
VGA SIS Real256 Graphics

Driver: sisgl.dll - Super VGA OpenGL ICD
File Date: 12/2/2002 4:47 PM
Company Name: Silicon Integrated Systems Corporation
File Version: 4.13.01.2120
Driver: sisdx32.dll - Super VGA DirectX Driver 32 Bit
File Date: 11/21/2002 11:00 AM
Company Name: Silicon Integrated Systems Corporation
File Version: 4.13.01.2120
Driver: sisdx.dll - Super VGA DirectX Driver 16 Bit
File Date: 11/21/2002 11:01 AM
Company Name: Silicon Integrated Systems Corporation
File Version: 4.13.01.2120
Driver: sisgr.vxd - Virtual Display Minidriver
File Date: 11/28/2002 3:14 PM
Company Name: Silicon Integrated Systems Corporation
File Version: 4.13.01.2120
Driver: sisgr.drv - Super VGA Display Driver
File Date: 11/28/2002 3:17 PM
Company Name: Silicon Integrated Systems Corporation
File Version: 4.13.01.2120

I was initially dual booting, I also had Win-XP Prof. The drivers for
Win-XP were always right-on, the pkg. for 98-SE shows up as *Compatible*
when you install and I don't have many settings for 98-SE in comparison to
Win-XP, many functions just arn't available, etc...

I would like to update the drivers for the display adapter, however I'm
very
confused as to what I should download. I don't want to do the entire pkg.
since it's a compatible pkg.

I'm nervous about this... because I was not smart and took the one driver
that was offered once and it totally crashed the puter, actually the
monitor, not the puter. After, the monitor was *out-of-range* and I
couldn't see the desktop of course. And, it took me 3 days to get the
timing
right to get into safe mode and fix the problem.

Should I get the driver update from ASUS vs. the SIS site.... if I go to
ASUS, they are displayed on my MB site which is, link to the ASUS
P4SGX-MX.....
http://www.asus.com.tw/support/downl...lName=P4SGX-MX...
I'm
not sure and possibly, I'm already using the best drivers??

I've went to SIS site and click on downloads, highlight display, choose
98SE
and SIS 650 and it seems I'm already using the best drivers for 98SE,
however my drivers are from Dec. 2002, therefore seem old, but then 98SE
has
been around since 1999.

I would appreciate guidance, and if I should update, which is the best
compatable pick !! I downloaded an entire pkg. approx. 1 year ago from
SIS,
it was drivers and the the software. Unfortunately, I had the same
problem
that I experienced at Windows Update.... monitor *out of range*, bad
problem!! The driver that is at Windows Update, I have looked at iit's
stats and it is older than the one I'm using, however I learned the hard
way, after the fact.

Thank you,

Star

| Need help not sure if I should try to update display adapter drivers
for
| 98SE ?

I've read through them a couple of times & must conclude the matter is
best left in Brian A.'s hands or in the hands of someone else who's been
through it. I only have a SoftPaq from Compaq to use when I want to play
with my Video Adapter. It's uninstallable in Add/Remove Programs &
reinstalled with a click. STILL...

It sounds to me you are a SiS 650, at least on the Win98 side, if the
SiS info package & MSInfo32 said so. The site said you have the latest
drivers. So, that is that. Likely, they did not update them further
(beyond 2002) to provide the options/functionality you get on the XP
side. You don't want to grab something wrong & end up with monitor *out
of range* errors again.

| I've been to the SIS
| site and I have done the chip identification tool in the past.... but
not
| w/the install of Win that I currently have. Unfortunately I'm having
trouble
| running the activeX controls at this time. Tried earlier today. I
removed
| the controls from the Downloaded Program flldr, two controls are
placed by
| SIS, both controls remove, but one w/message *unable to unregister*,
| possibly it never registered, cause SIS kept repeatedly telling me to
| install the tool, probably because it *never installed completely*.
I
| never rec'd the security messages that you get for activeX downloads.

I don't know. You already did what I would try. Now, I'm offline &
cannot click...

• Web Pages with ActiveX Controls Are Not Displayed Properly
(240897) - When you view a Web site that contains an ActiveX control,
you may experience any of the following symptoms: You are not prompted
to download and install the control.A red X is displayed where the
control should appear.You receive script errors...
http://support.microsoft.com/default...b;en-us;240897

• Pictures Are Not Displayed on Web Sites in Internet Explorer
(283807) - When you open a Web page, one or more pictures (graphics or
images) may not be displayed. Instead, a red X, or a placeholder, may
appear in place of the images. This behavior can occur if one of the
following conditions is true: The Web page...
http://support.microsoft.com/default...b;en-us;283807


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There may be humor in this post, and,
Naturally, you will not sue,
should things get worse after this,
PCR

"Star" wrote in message
...
| PCR Pro,
| Pls. give me some feedback regarding my display adapter, can you pls.
read
| this post and the other post I wrote in this thread.
|
| Thank, Star.
|
| Thanks, Star
| "Star" wrote in message
| ...
| Hello,
| Need help not sure if I should try to update display adapter drivers
for
| 98SE ? The MB is a ASUS P4SGX-MX, Celeron 2000Ghz. I have the
support CD
| and I'm currently using the software & driver pkgs on from the
support CD.
| This is the stats for the main drivers for super vga display.
|
| Product: SiS 650
| Softwa VS. 2.12
| Driver VS: 2.12
| 12-02-2002
| Chipset: SIS 650GX
| SIS 962L
| VGA SIS Real256 Graphics
|
| Driver: sisgl.dll - Super VGA OpenGL ICD
| File Date: 12/2/2002 4:47 PM
| Company Name: Silicon Integrated Systems Corporation
| File Version: 4.13.01.2120
| Driver: sisdx32.dll - Super VGA DirectX Driver 32 Bit
| File Date: 11/21/2002 11:00 AM
| Company Name: Silicon Integrated Systems Corporation
| File Version: 4.13.01.2120
| Driver: sisdx.dll - Super VGA DirectX Driver 16 Bit
| File Date: 11/21/2002 11:01 AM
| Company Name: Silicon Integrated Systems Corporation
| File Version: 4.13.01.2120
| Driver: sisgr.vxd - Virtual Display Minidriver
| File Date: 11/28/2002 3:14 PM
| Company Name: Silicon Integrated Systems Corporation
| File Version: 4.13.01.2120
| Driver: sisgr.drv - Super VGA Display Driver
| File Date: 11/28/2002 3:17 PM
| Company Name: Silicon Integrated Systems Corporation
| File Version: 4.13.01.2120
|
| I was initially dual booting, I also had Win-XP Prof. The drivers
for
| Win-XP were always right-on, the pkg. for 98-SE shows up as
*Compatible*
| when you install and I don't have many settings for 98-SE in
comparison to
| Win-XP, many functions just arn't available, etc...
|
| I would like to update the drivers for the display adapter, however
I'm
| very
| confused as to what I should download. I don't want to do the
entire pkg.
| since it's a compatible pkg.
|
| I'm nervous about this... because I was not smart and took the one
driver
| that was offered once and it totally crashed the puter, actually the
| monitor, not the puter. After, the monitor was *out-of-range* and
I
| couldn't see the desktop of course. And, it took me 3 days to get
the
| timing
| right to get into safe mode and fix the problem.
|
| Should I get the driver update from ASUS vs. the SIS site.... if I
go to
| ASUS, they are displayed on my MB site which is, link to the ASUS
| P4SGX-MX.....
|
http://www.asus.com.tw/support/downl...lName=P4SGX-MX...
| I'm
| not sure and possibly, I'm already using the best drivers??
|
| I've went to SIS site and click on downloads, highlight display,
choose
| 98SE
| and SIS 650 and it seems I'm already using the best drivers for
98SE,
| however my drivers are from Dec. 2002, therefore seem old, but then
98SE
| has
| been around since 1999.
|
| I would appreciate guidance, and if I should update, which is the
best
| compatable pick !! I downloaded an entire pkg. approx. 1 year ago
from
| SIS,
| it was drivers and the the software. Unfortunately, I had the same
| problem
| that I experienced at Windows Update.... monitor *out of range*, bad
| problem!! The driver that is at Windows Update, I have looked at
iit's
| stats and it is older than the one I'm using, however I learned the
hard
| way, after the fact.
|
| Thank you,
|
| Star
|
|
|
|

I don't see anything very relevant in those two articles I posted.
http://search.support.microsoft.com/...dv=1&spid=1139 MSKB
Search "ActiveX" does come up with about 20 articles. Perhaps go see.

Could be something wrong with the SiS site, too. Are you set for
"Medium" at "Internet Options, Security tab, Internet Zone"?


--
Thanks or Good Luck,
There may be humor in this post, and,
Naturally, you will not sue,
should things get worse after this,
PCR

"PCR" wrote in message
...
| | Need help not sure if I should try to update display adapter drivers
| for
| | 98SE ?
|
| I've read through them a couple of times & must conclude the matter is
| best left in Brian A.'s hands or in the hands of someone else who's
been
| through it. I only have a SoftPaq from Compaq to use when I want to
play
| with my Video Adapter. It's uninstallable in Add/Remove Programs &
| reinstalled with a click. STILL...
|
| It sounds to me you are a SiS 650, at least on the Win98 side, if the
| SiS info package & MSInfo32 said so. The site said you have the latest
| drivers. So, that is that. Likely, they did not update them further
| (beyond 2002) to provide the options/functionality you get on the XP
| side. You don't want to grab something wrong & end up with monitor
*out
| of range* errors again.
|
| | I've been to the SIS
| | site and I have done the chip identification tool in the past....
but
| not
| | w/the install of Win that I currently have. Unfortunately I'm having
| trouble
| | running the activeX controls at this time. Tried earlier today. I
| removed
| | the controls from the Downloaded Program flldr, two controls are
| placed by
| | SIS, both controls remove, but one w/message *unable to unregister*,
| | possibly it never registered, cause SIS kept repeatedly telling me
to
| | install the tool, probably because it *never installed completely*.
| I
| | never rec'd the security messages that you get for activeX
downloads.
|
| I don't know. You already did what I would try. Now, I'm offline &
| cannot click...
|
| • Web Pages with ActiveX Controls Are Not Displayed Properly
| (240897) - When you view a Web site that contains an ActiveX control,
| you may experience any of the following symptoms: You are not prompted
| to download and install the control.A red X is displayed where the
| control should appear.You receive script errors...
| http://support.microsoft.com/default...b;en-us;240897
|
| • Pictures Are Not Displayed on Web Sites in Internet Explorer
| (283807) - When you open a Web page, one or more pictures (graphics or
| images) may not be displayed. Instead, a red X, or a placeholder, may
| appear in place of the images. This behavior can occur if one of the
| following conditions is true: The Web page...
| http://support.microsoft.com/default...b;en-us;283807
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