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Old May 21st 05, 12:01 AM
Steve Z.
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Default Can't Perform System Restore from System Tools

I wanted to restore my computer to an earlier time, but can't. I went
through the drill with system performance, files and enabling swystem
restore. After i did all that, I restarted the computer, and tried system
restore. I got a message telling me I had to restart the system first and
then use system restore. I restarted the system, and tried it again---got
the same message about having to restart the machine before I could do system
restore. Then I did a system maintenance. Some bad files were fixed and
some data repaired, then the system went through defrag. I restarted and
tried the system restore after this, and am still getting the same message
about restarting the computer before I can use system restore. What is the
solution? I've tried everything I can think of at this point.
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Old May 21st 05, 12:20 AM
Mike M
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System Restore problem:

Check that you don't have a wininit.ini file in your Windows folder. If
you do, rename this to wininit.old and retry System Restore. If this works
then you possibly have a program that creates a wininit.ini file each time
you boot your system. One known example is tgcmd.exe, another is a
program called "ACCESS DENIED". If you have tgcmd.exe I understand that
disabling it in MSConfig | Startup will have no adverse effect on your
system but enable you to use System Restore. Likewise ACCESS DENIED
needs to be "switched off" whilst using SR to either create or restore to
a previous checkpoint. McAfee's Spam Killer also seems to create a new
wininit.ini file each time the system is booted. See also MS KB 274092 -
"Error Message: System Restore Cannot Run Until You Restart the Computer"
(http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=274092).

If this isn't the reason for your problem then try running
SCANREG /FIX
from a command prompt such as Start | Run. Note that the system will
re-boot so don't have any applications open when doing this. I suggest
this because the same message is also displayed when the registry has been
corrupted in some way. scanreg /fix attempts to repair that damage.

Hopefully one or the other will solve your problem and allow you to create
a manual check point. If so then please continue with the rest of the
test.

If however you find that you keep getting a wininit.ini file created each
time you boot your system another known cause is due to having unwanted
malware but hopefully we won't have to go down that path.
--
Mike Maltby MS-MVP



Steve Z. wrote:

I wanted to restore my computer to an earlier time, but can't. I went
through the drill with system performance, files and enabling swystem
restore. After i did all that, I restarted the computer, and tried
system restore. I got a message telling me I had to restart the
system first and then use system restore. I restarted the system,
and tried it again---got the same message about having to restart the
machine before I could do system restore. Then I did a system
maintenance. Some bad files were fixed and some data repaired, then
the system went through defrag. I restarted and tried the system
restore after this, and am still getting the same message about
restarting the computer before I can use system restore. What is the
solution? I've tried everything I can think of at this point.


  #3  
Old May 21st 05, 02:52 PM
Steve Z.
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I checked the Windows folder and have these files:

WININIT.BAK
WININIT (an application)
winInit.ini.backup
WININIT.SAV
wininit (text file)
wininitlog.old

didn't see a wininit.ini in there. Don't have either of the two programs
you mentioned. I do have Panda Titanium Antivirus 2005. Could that be a
problem? Hasn't been in the past.

"Mike M" wrote:

System Restore problem:

Check that you don't have a wininit.ini file in your Windows folder. If
you do, rename this to wininit.old and retry System Restore. If this works
then you possibly have a program that creates a wininit.ini file each time
you boot your system. One known example is tgcmd.exe, another is a
program called "ACCESS DENIED". If you have tgcmd.exe I understand that
disabling it in MSConfig | Startup will have no adverse effect on your
system but enable you to use System Restore. Likewise ACCESS DENIED
needs to be "switched off" whilst using SR to either create or restore to
a previous checkpoint. McAfee's Spam Killer also seems to create a new
wininit.ini file each time the system is booted. See also MS KB 274092 -
"Error Message: System Restore Cannot Run Until You Restart the Computer"
(http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=274092).

If this isn't the reason for your problem then try running
SCANREG /FIX
from a command prompt such as Start | Run. Note that the system will
re-boot so don't have any applications open when doing this. I suggest
this because the same message is also displayed when the registry has been
corrupted in some way. scanreg /fix attempts to repair that damage.

Hopefully one or the other will solve your problem and allow you to create
a manual check point. If so then please continue with the rest of the
test.

If however you find that you keep getting a wininit.ini file created each
time you boot your system another known cause is due to having unwanted
malware but hopefully we won't have to go down that path.
--
Mike Maltby MS-MVP



Steve Z. wrote:

I wanted to restore my computer to an earlier time, but can't. I went
through the drill with system performance, files and enabling swystem
restore. After i did all that, I restarted the computer, and tried
system restore. I got a message telling me I had to restart the
system first and then use system restore. I restarted the system,
and tried it again---got the same message about having to restart the
machine before I could do system restore. Then I did a system
maintenance. Some bad files were fixed and some data repaired, then
the system went through defrag. I restarted and tried the system
restore after this, and am still getting the same message about
restarting the computer before I can use system restore. What is the
solution? I've tried everything I can think of at this point.



  #4  
Old May 21st 05, 03:14 PM
Steve Z.
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BTW: I did the SCANREG /FIX, restarted the machine, and when I tried
"restore", I got the same "Error Message: System Restore Cannot Run Until You
Restart the Computer" message.

"Steve Z." wrote:

I checked the Windows folder and have these files:

WININIT.BAK
WININIT (an application)
winInit.ini.backup
WININIT.SAV
wininit (text file)
wininitlog.old

didn't see a wininit.ini in there. Don't have either of the two programs
you mentioned. I do have Panda Titanium Antivirus 2005. Could that be a
problem? Hasn't been in the past.

"Mike M" wrote:

System Restore problem:

Check that you don't have a wininit.ini file in your Windows folder. If
you do, rename this to wininit.old and retry System Restore. If this works
then you possibly have a program that creates a wininit.ini file each time
you boot your system. One known example is tgcmd.exe, another is a
program called "ACCESS DENIED". If you have tgcmd.exe I understand that
disabling it in MSConfig | Startup will have no adverse effect on your
system but enable you to use System Restore. Likewise ACCESS DENIED
needs to be "switched off" whilst using SR to either create or restore to
a previous checkpoint. McAfee's Spam Killer also seems to create a new
wininit.ini file each time the system is booted. See also MS KB 274092 -
"Error Message: System Restore Cannot Run Until You Restart the Computer"
(http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=274092).

If this isn't the reason for your problem then try running
SCANREG /FIX
from a command prompt such as Start | Run. Note that the system will
re-boot so don't have any applications open when doing this. I suggest
this because the same message is also displayed when the registry has been
corrupted in some way. scanreg /fix attempts to repair that damage.

Hopefully one or the other will solve your problem and allow you to create
a manual check point. If so then please continue with the rest of the
test.

If however you find that you keep getting a wininit.ini file created each
time you boot your system another known cause is due to having unwanted
malware but hopefully we won't have to go down that path.
--
Mike Maltby MS-MVP



Steve Z. wrote:

I wanted to restore my computer to an earlier time, but can't. I went
through the drill with system performance, files and enabling swystem
restore. After i did all that, I restarted the computer, and tried
system restore. I got a message telling me I had to restart the
system first and then use system restore. I restarted the system,
and tried it again---got the same message about having to restart the
machine before I could do system restore. Then I did a system
maintenance. Some bad files were fixed and some data repaired, then
the system went through defrag. I restarted and tried the system
restore after this, and am still getting the same message about
restarting the computer before I can use system restore. What is the
solution? I've tried everything I can think of at this point.



  #5  
Old May 21st 05, 04:04 PM
Mike M
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It might help you if you unhide the file extensions for known files.
Windows Explorer | Folder Options | View and uncheck the box "hide
extensions for known file types". I'm intrigued as to your having
"wininit (text file)" as I can't see any reason for having a file
named wininit.txt. Personally I feel you should delete all the files you
list except for wininit.exe and then reboot. Now check again and see what
wininit files are present.
--
Mike Maltby MS-MVP



Steve Z. wrote:

BTW: I did the SCANREG /FIX, restarted the machine, and when I tried
"restore", I got the same "Error Message: System Restore Cannot Run
Until You Restart the Computer" message.


  #6  
Old June 3rd 05, 03:57 AM
Steve Z.
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Deleting the wininit. files from the WINDOWS folder worked. Don't know why
they were there---but then I didn't know that they weren't supposed to be
there. I had done a disk check/repair and defrag, but guess it didn't catch
them as mistakes. Anyway, I was able to do a restore after taking your
advice. I could only go back to theprevious week, but it appears to at least
work, now.

Thanks!

"Mike M" wrote:

It might help you if you unhide the file extensions for known files.
Windows Explorer | Folder Options | View and uncheck the box "hide
extensions for known file types". I'm intrigued as to your having
"wininit (text file)" as I can't see any reason for having a file
named wininit.txt. Personally I feel you should delete all the files you
list except for wininit.exe and then reboot. Now check again and see what
wininit files are present.
--
Mike Maltby MS-MVP



Steve Z. wrote:

BTW: I did the SCANREG /FIX, restarted the machine, and when I tried
"restore", I got the same "Error Message: System Restore Cannot Run
Until You Restart the Computer" message.



 




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