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Kernel-Ex dont run Firefox properly
Kernel-Ex Version 4.5.12 says it's intended to run Firefox 8.0.
While FF 8.0 does load, it's crashes almost everytime I close it, and often when I clear the history (cache, cookies, etc). A few times this crash locked up the whole computer, which has not happened to me in years. Before this, I had the previous version of Kernel-EX, and was running FF 3.0.0.28. That one dont crash, even though that version loads slower than molasses in January (up to 2 minutes), and recently keeps giving me problems on some websites, such as "no longer supported" messages on sites like Youtube. And it also tends to get a lot of script errors too. But this ver dont crash. Just for the heck of it, I installed FF 4.x (most recent ver of 4). Same as ver 8.0. Crashes when closing and sometimes when I clear cache. I finally just uninstalled all of them and went back to version 3. Kernel-EX dont seem to work as it claims, at least not for FF. I guess it's time to start using XP on the internet, there just is no browser that works in 98 anymore. My old favorite, K-Meleon gets a script error every 5 minutes, Seamonkey (for 98) is also too old, and i dont use IE. (it's not even installed). I wont touch Opera with another man's _ick on the end of a 10 foot pole. I looked into a few others and none are suited for Win98 anymore..... I'm not real fond of XP, but I guess the time has come to force myself to like it.... I know I'll miss W98se. |
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On Tue, 25 Feb 2014 23:23:20 -0700, "Bill in Co"
wrote: wrote: Kernel-Ex Version 4.5.12 says it's intended to run Firefox 8.0. While FF 8.0 does load, it's crashes almost everytime I close it, and often when I clear the history (cache, cookies, etc). A few times this crash locked up the whole computer, which has not happened to me in years. Before this, I had the previous version of Kernel-EX, and was running FF 3.0.0.28. That one dont crash, even though that version loads slower than molasses in January (up to 2 minutes), and recently keeps giving me problems on some websites, such as "no longer supported" messages on sites like Youtube. And it also tends to get a lot of script errors too. But this ver dont crash. Just for the heck of it, I installed FF 4.x (most recent ver of 4). Same as ver 8.0. Crashes when closing and sometimes when I clear cache. I finally just uninstalled all of them and went back to version 3. Kernel-EX dont seem to work as it claims, at least not for FF. I guess it's time to start using XP on the internet, there just is no browser that works in 98 anymore. My old favorite, K-Meleon gets a script error every 5 minutes, Seamonkey (for 98) is also too old, and i dont use IE. (it's not even installed). I wont touch Opera with another man's _ick on the end of a 10 foot pole. I looked into a few others and none are suited for Win98 anymore..... I'm not real fond of XP, but I guess the time has come to force myself to like it.... I know I'll miss W98se. I used to feel the same way you do. But I've got XP pretty well tamed and customized to be pretty close to 98SE, for all intents and purposes. Plus with XP, you can at least run a lot more software since the past decade. :-) That said, I miss 98SE, at least on some occasions. But some of the latest software nowadays is even requiring Vista or Win7. Fortunately, nothing I want, however. :-) At this point, I'm gonna just setup XP for the internet. I have hundreds of programs set up in 98, for all needs and uses. 98 continues to work perfectly for music, videos, inage editing, and my home office needs. It's just the web browsers that are constantly screwing up and irritating me. I feel pretty safe using 98 online, regarding viruses and malware. No one attacks 98 anymore, and aside from some adware, I have not had any virus or severe problems with malware in years. I dont feel the same about XP, which seems to attract malware lke a trap. So, in some ways, maybe having the internet separated from my other programs may be a good thing. But I need to get one of those switchers for the Kbd, Mse, and Monitor. Having two of each takes up too much space,and tends to confuse me too. I would like to find a step by step text file showing me how to make XP look and act more like 98. Yea, I got the classic style desktop set, and the same for the Start button menu, but it still does things that annoy me. Of course I have my W98 computer setup more like Win3.x, than most people. I like having everything in icons on the desktop, Each group has many programs inside of it. There are groups like OFFICE - INTERNET - VIDEOS - UTILITIES - SYSTEM - NOTES - GRAPIHICS - MUSIC PROGS - etc.... I rarely use the START button except to turn off the computer. Anyhow, that seems to be the plan. For one thing I run an old dos database, which contains phone - address, - email and other stuff for everyone i know, and for my business. It has hundreds of entries. I'm not about to retype all that into a windows based DB. I dont know how I can run that thing in XP. So, I guess the way to go is to use two computers, and XP will just be for the internet mostly. I would not even consider Vista, that was a disaster right from it's start. I'd rather go right to Win 7 or 8, if I had to go past XP, but that would mean a much newer and costly computer. I'll just stick to my homemade systems that i put together from older systems, which do all I need. |
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On Tue, 25 Feb 2014 23:23:20 -0700, "Bill in Co" wrote: wrote: Kernel-Ex Version 4.5.12 says it's intended to run Firefox 8.0. While FF 8.0 does load, it's crashes almost everytime I close it, and often when I clear the history (cache, cookies, etc). A few times this crash locked up the whole computer, which has not happened to me in years. Before this, I had the previous version of Kernel-EX, and was running FF 3.0.0.28. That one dont crash, even though that version loads slower than molasses in January (up to 2 minutes), and recently keeps giving me problems on some websites, such as "no longer supported" messages on sites like Youtube. And it also tends to get a lot of script errors too. But this ver dont crash. Just for the heck of it, I installed FF 4.x (most recent ver of 4). Same as ver 8.0. Crashes when closing and sometimes when I clear cache. I finally just uninstalled all of them and went back to version 3. Kernel-EX dont seem to work as it claims, at least not for FF. I guess it's time to start using XP on the internet, there just is no browser that works in 98 anymore. My old favorite, K-Meleon gets a script error every 5 minutes, Seamonkey (for 98) is also too old, and i dont use IE. (it's not even installed). I wont touch Opera with another man's _ick on the end of a 10 foot pole. I looked into a few others and none are suited for Win98 anymore..... I'm not real fond of XP, but I guess the time has come to force myself to like it.... I know I'll miss W98se. I used to feel the same way you do. But I've got XP pretty well tamed and customized to be pretty close to 98SE, for all intents and purposes. Plus with XP, you can at least run a lot more software since the past decade. :-) That said, I miss 98SE, at least on some occasions. But some of the latest software nowadays is even requiring Vista or Win7. Fortunately, nothing I want, however. :-) At this point, I'm gonna just setup XP for the internet. I have hundreds of programs set up in 98, for all needs and uses. 98 continues to work perfectly for music, videos, inage editing, and my home office needs. It's just the web browsers that are constantly screwing up and irritating me. I feel pretty safe using 98 online, regarding viruses and malware. No one attacks 98 anymore, and aside from some adware, I have not had any virus or severe problems with malware in years. I dont feel the same about XP, which seems to attract malware lke a trap. So, in some ways, maybe having the internet separated from my other programs may be a good thing. But I need to get one of those switchers for the Kbd, Mse, and Monitor. Having two of each takes up too much space,and tends to confuse me too. I would like to find a step by step text file showing me how to make XP look and act more like 98. Yea, I got the classic style desktop set, and the same for the Start button menu, but it still does things that annoy me. Of course I have my W98 computer setup more like Win3.x, than most people. I like having everything in icons on the desktop, Each group has many programs inside of it. There are groups like OFFICE - INTERNET - VIDEOS - UTILITIES - SYSTEM - NOTES - GRAPIHICS - MUSIC PROGS - etc.... I rarely use the START button except to turn off the computer. Anyhow, that seems to be the plan. For one thing I run an old dos database, which contains phone - address, - email and other stuff for everyone i know, and for my business. It has hundreds of entries. I'm not about to retype all that into a windows based DB. I dont know how I can run that thing in XP. So, I guess the way to go is to use two computers, and XP will just be for the internet mostly. I would not even consider Vista, that was a disaster right from it's start. I'd rather go right to Win 7 or 8, if I had to go past XP, but that would mean a much newer and costly computer. I'll just stick to my homemade systems that i put together from older systems, which do all I need. |
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Bill in Co Put virtual PC 2004 Run on that Win7!
"Bill in Co" wrote in message m...
wrote: Kernel-Ex Version 4.5.12 says it's intended to run Firefox 8.0. I know I'll miss W98se. I used to feel the same way you do. But I've got XP pretty well tamed and customized to be pretty close to 98SE, for all intents and purposes. Plus with XP, you can at least run a lot more software since the past decade. :-) That said, I miss 98SE, at least on some occasions. But some of the latest software nowadays is even requiring Vista or Win7. Fortunately, nothing I want, however. :-) Bill in Co Put virtual PC 2004 Run on that Win7! And miss it no more http://win98.virtual.css.alt.mynews.ath.cx:81/ I have a Virtual PC Windows 3.11 on a XP I look all around here for my Windows 95 B My Wife say it in the attic But you know it's cool up there |
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Kernel-Ex dont run Firefox properly (now 98, XP, etc.)
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Kernel-Ex dont run Firefox properly (now 98, XP, etc.)
On Sat, 1 Mar 2014 09:07:37 +0000, "J. P. Gilliver (John)"
wrote: In message , writes: (snip) You can ask here and on the XP 'group about specific things - I don't think a general such file would be practical as each migrator would want slightly different things. (You can email me privately too if you wish.) The XP 'group is microsoft.public.win98.gen_discussion; 98?? typo? (more snip) So far, I've found most DOS things work fine in XP, apart from obviously they use 8.3 filenames (which are still there in XP). For example, SUBST, Xtree Gold ... I never could get XTree Gold to behave really nicely even in 98SE, so I switched to eXtreme. Uses pretty much all the XTree commands BUT is sensitive to caps lock status on some. Right now I'm in the throes of moving on from 98SE, sadly. It's been good to me for a v.long time. As I could never get Kernelex to play nice, the spread of HTML5 has given FF2.0.0.20 a torrid time with stalling scripts etc etc. I have an XP lappie that I use occasionally and also use SWMBO's Win7 lappie at odd times, so I at least have passing familiarity with those OS's. Meanwhile my son has just set up my alternate desktop box with Win7U. What will be the biggest PITA of leaving 98 as my "daily drive" is the legacy apps that I need occasionally, and the loss of REAL serial/parallel ports. |
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Kernel-Ex dont run Firefox properly (now 98, XP, etc.)
pedro wrote:
As I could never get Kernelex to play nice What are the hardware specs of your win-98 system? What CPU, and how much RAM? Is it some special install of win-98 like Lite? KernelEx requires unicode, but the KernelEx install will go out and get it by default. Have you done a full defrag / scandisk / surface scan on your hard drive? You might have some file-system errors or bad sectors that are the underlying problem. |
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Kernel-Ex dont run Firefox properly (now 98, XP, etc.)
In message , pedro
writes: On Sat, 1 Mar 2014 09:07:37 +0000, "J. P. Gilliver (John)" wrote: In message , writes: (snip) You can ask here and on the XP 'group about specific things - I don't think a general such file would be practical as each migrator would want slightly different things. (You can email me privately too if you wish.) The XP 'group is microsoft.public.win98.gen_discussion; 98?? typo? Oops - more a matter of copying the wrong line (-:. It's microsoft.public.windowsxp.general - not quite the same. [] Right now I'm in the throes of moving on from 98SE, sadly. It's been good to me for a v.long time. As I could never get Kernelex to play nice, the spread of HTML5 has given FF2.0.0.20 a torrid time with stalling scripts etc etc. I have an XP lappie that I use occasionally and also use SWMBO's Win7 lappie at odd times, so I at least have passing familiarity with those OS's. Meanwhile my son has just set up my alternate desktop box with Win7U. What will be the biggest PITA of leaving 98 as my "daily drive" is the legacy apps that I need occasionally, and the loss of REAL serial/parallel ports. To be fair, the loss of the ports isn't XP's fault; XP works fine with real serial/parallel ports. (As, I think, does 7.) As for the legacy apps, they may well still work (though you _might_ have to learn a few wrinkles) under XP; try them. If you still have the install discs (or can download the installers), try those first - failing that, try copying over the relevant folders, though that's less likely to be trouble-free (as it would indeed be under 98). -- J. P. Gilliver. UMRA: 1960/1985 MB++G()AL-IS-Ch++(p)Ar@T+H+Sh0!:`)DNAf After all is said and done, usually more is said. |
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Kernel-Ex More Info and links
"98 Guy" "98"@Guy. com wrote in message ...
pedro wrote: As I could never get Kernelex to play nice What are the hardware specs of your win-98 system? What CPU, and how much RAM? Is it some special install of win-98 like Lite? KernelEx requires unicode, but the KernelEx install will go out and get it by default. Download and Info for Microsoft® unicode.dll. http://www.microsoft.com/en-us/downl...s.aspx?id=4237 Put it in c:\windows\systems32\ Then Restart Computer For KernelEx will fine it there Have you done a full defrag / scandisk / surface scan on your hard drive? You might have some file-system errors or bad sectors that are the underlying problem. |
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