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Mike M wrote:
There is no moderator as such for these NGs. Spam and excessive multi-posts are mainly removed using pre-defined rules and on requests sent to Microsoft by users. For example I've just asked Microsoft for the phrase "Hot Czech Girl Chat" be added to the filters. I can only guess what happened to Shane's post and Harry's reply (which no doubt included the text of Shane's post) as I can now see neither but it is possible that it included a phrase that is in the current filters. Although this repost included the entire original text...which makes it more interesting if it is a filter responsible for the removal. Is it also the brevity of my original post? More than, but not much more than, a couple of links. Shane |
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Shane wrote:
Although this repost included the entire original text...which makes it more interesting if it is a filter responsible for the removal. Is it also the brevity of my original post? More than, but not much more than, a couple of links. I don't have a clue as to how or why it might have been removed. As you say, it was very brief ((http://groups.google.com/g/6f17fef7/...53f27918a321)). I can't help but wonder whether it might have been removed as a result of "finger trouble" when making a manual deletion as there was nothing in your post that warranted its removal unless the filters are set to delete a post where included urls exceed a given proportion of the total post but from what I know the filters used on the Microsoft newsgroups (by a third party contractor I might add) are anything but sophisticated and for the most barely fit for purpose. For example if they were any good we wouldn't all have been recently invited to contact a "hot Czech chick" as they would have quickly picked up the post for being an excessive multiple post let alone spam.. -- Mike .. |
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I'll resend the original.
Mike M wrote: Shane wrote: Although this repost included the entire original text...which makes it more interesting if it is a filter responsible for the removal. Is it also the brevity of my original post? More than, but not much more than, a couple of links. I don't have a clue as to how or why it might have been removed. As you say, it was very brief ((http://groups.google.com/g/6f17fef7/...53f27918a321)). I can't help but wonder whether it might have been removed as a result of "finger trouble" when making a manual deletion as there was nothing in your post that warranted its removal unless the filters are set to delete a post where included urls exceed a given proportion of the total post but from what I know the filters used on the Microsoft newsgroups (by a third party contractor I might add) are anything but sophisticated and for the most barely fit for purpose. For example if they were any good we wouldn't all have been recently invited to contact a "hot Czech chick" as they would have quickly picked up the post for being an excessive multiple post let alone spam.. |
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FWIW - I have just d/l your 'original' post complete with Harry's reply from
the news.btinternet.com site so it's not been removed from their server(s) (NB I still also have the originals in my MS News Server archives which I haven't refreshed) Mart |
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Hmm.
And I just synced and got all the versions I posted before syncing the RAID array (so, about an hour ago). Now I'm about to set up W7 again, so will be setting up Windows Mail and Live mail again and we shall see what we shall see. Is it Spring up there now, Mart? I just noticed the daffodils amongst the purple figgs and then the bruce (Forsythia) in flower. The sun is shining and possibly a 3rd cappucino will set me up to gambol down the road in a bit. I recollect how colourful it must be down Devon way now (the walk from Steps Bridge to Drewsteignton, beside the River Teign in the NE corner of Dartmoor is idyllic about now with the woods full of wild daffodils and garlic, reached by lanes with verges overflowing with yellow primroses. Especially rewarding if one gets there on a gleaming old four stroke). Yet I imagine it is still winter north of the Watford Gap. Perhaps I've already had too much coffee. Shane Mart wrote: FWIW - I have just d/l your 'original' post complete with Harry's reply from the news.btinternet.com site so it's not been removed from their server(s) (NB I still also have the originals in my MS News Server archives which I haven't refreshed) Mart |
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Is it Spring up there now, Mart?
Sure is, Shane and the sun is shining (again) here too, although a bit cool for shirt sleeves. I've noticed a couple of (moulting) wood pigeons still with their scarves around their necks but no doubt they will have cast them off in a week or two. Also the couple of robins are still taking their Benylin but they're not coughing quite so much lately. Shouldn't complain but we have been a bit light in the rain department for the past couple of months so I would guess that we could expect a hose-pipe ban again this year. Last year was only exception for past few years. It's a bit like the snow, the planners always get caught out, you'd have that they should be able to work out a strategy by now. Mart "Shane" wrote in message ... Hmm. And I just synced and got all the versions I posted before syncing the RAID array (so, about an hour ago). Now I'm about to set up W7 again, so will be setting up Windows Mail and Live mail again and we shall see what we shall see. Is it Spring up there now, Mart? I just noticed the daffodils amongst the purple figgs and then the bruce (Forsythia) in flower. The sun is shining and possibly a 3rd cappucino will set me up to gambol down the road in a bit. I recollect how colourful it must be down Devon way now (the walk from Steps Bridge to Drewsteignton, beside the River Teign in the NE corner of Dartmoor is idyllic about now with the woods full of wild daffodils and garlic, reached by lanes with verges overflowing with yellow primroses. Especially rewarding if one gets there on a gleaming old four stroke). Yet I imagine it is still winter north of the Watford Gap. Perhaps I've already had too much coffee. Shane Mart wrote: FWIW - I have just d/l your 'original' post complete with Harry's reply from the news.btinternet.com site so it's not been removed from their server(s) (NB I still also have the originals in my MS News Server archives which I haven't refreshed) Mart |
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Sure fancy some chips (from Neptune's at Edgware)! I'm losing the
post-smoking and being out of it on *codeine excess, but I can see the finish line now. Though going 100 miles to London might be a bit OTT. They sure do great fish'n'chips though! "Heather" wrote in message ... Hmmm, it is almost midnight and had some liquid refreshment with my shrimp and chips, so it took me two go-rounds to absorb what you are saying, lol. Nah, not about to reset this just to see.....or perhaps I might.....tomorrow. I do believe I have forgotten how to have just one drink at a cellular level.....mind you, she poured me a strong one (for me, that is). And it was........Cdn Club and Pepsi.....I can hear you gagging all the way over here, LOL!! Oops......I am babbling, so I really will go to bed now. Night......Figgs "Mike M" wrote in message ... Figgs, You may have "got them" when they were posted but are they still there? No. What you are seeing is your local cached copy. This has nothing whatsoever to do with the news client you are using other than that it retains downloaded messages to a local store. What Shane was saying, and I confirmed, is that his first post (which I saw) is no longer on the server but has been deleted. I gather that Harry and perhaps others replied to that post. All of these replies have also been removed. Don't believe me? Reset the NG and see what you get? vbg -- Mike Heather wrote: Heck, I got all of them, Mike and Shane. Is that because I am using XP??? Or do they have a Moderator watching Shane......ROFL!! xx Figgs and for Har Har's edification, most of the Firefox add-ons are by authors I have never heard of........but FF approves them, so why not download them?? You are looking for bad stuff that just doesn't exist, Har. And I doubt that you are even using FF. |
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On Wed, 18 Mar 2009 10:50:48 -0000, Mike M wrote:
N. Miller wrote: Not particularly. My reader will go to the server to look for an article if it knows the MID$ of the article. If all I have is the Subject line, and the article is older than my purge date, location becomes a bit trickier because the article has aged out of the store. And even trickier where, as in this case, the article has been removed from the Microsoft server. The deleted thread is still accessible via Google Groups (http://groups.google.com/g/6f17fef7/...6553f27918a321) Ah: That would be Message-ID: ! The nice thing about my news reader is that knowing the MID$, I can choose to "Find" a message in the local store, on the server, or at Googl Groups. With just a "Subject" I am going to have to resort to Internet search, and, maybe, sift through hundreds, or even thousands of hits. Even "Subject+author" may not reduce the number of hits to a manageable number. -- Norman ~Shine, bright morning light, ~now in the air the spring is coming. ~Sweet, blowing wind, ~singing down the hills and valleys. |
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Mike M wrote:
There is no moderator as such for these NGs. Spam and excessive multi-posts are mainly removed using pre-defined rules and on requests sent to Microsoft by users. For example I've just asked Microsoft for the phrase "Hot Czech Girl Chat" be added to the filters. I can They don't work very quickly, do they Mike! |
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Shane wrote:
They don't work very quickly, do they Mike! No. I and others don't understand why maintenance of the NGs is so poor and apparently under resourced - Monday - Friday working hours, or so it seems. The best time to spam the MS NGs being on a Friday evening Pacific Time as it will then normally hang around until the Monday if not for ever. -- Mike |
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