Can I boot back and forth between a Master and slave hard drive withwindows 98SE?

I have a computer with a partitioned hard drive C and D with windows
98SE on it that is jumped as a master. I added another hard drive that
I ran FDISK and FORMAT which became E jumped as a slave.
I decided to see if I could get windows 98SE on both so I disconnected
the master hard drive and jumped the slave to be the master and put it
on the end of the ribbon cable. I then re-ran FDISK and FORMAT and
then installed another windows 98SE on it. That drive naturally was C
drive.
I then disconnected it and reconnected the original master to the end
of the ribbon cable. I then removed the jumpers from the other hard
drive that made it a slave again and then connected it to the middle
of the ribbon cable.
To my surprise I found that it became D drive and the master
partitioned into two parts became C and E drive.
Question one is why did the master not keep C and D as the letters and
the slave stay at E instead of becoming D.
But what I wanted to be able to do is boot from either hard drive. I
thought if I went into the BIOS changed the boot order that would do
it. But no matter which letter C, D or E I put first it still boots to
the original C partition.
Question number two is am I doing something wrong? Should I not be
able to boot to either drive?

"DJW" wrote in message
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I have a computer with a partitioned hard drive C and D with windows
98SE on it that is jumped as a master. I added another hard drive that
I ran FDISK and FORMAT which became E jumped as a slave.
I decided to see if I could get windows 98SE on both so I disconnected
the master hard drive and jumped the slave to be the master and put it
on the end of the ribbon cable. I then re-ran FDISK and FORMAT and
then installed another windows 98SE on it. That drive naturally was C
drive.
I then disconnected it and reconnected the original master to the end
of the ribbon cable. I then removed the jumpers from the other hard
drive that made it a slave again and then connected it to the middle
of the ribbon cable.
To my surprise I found that it became D drive and the master
partitioned into two parts became C and E drive.
Question one is why did the master not keep C and D as the letters and
the slave stay at E instead of becoming D.
But what I wanted to be able to do is boot from either hard drive. I
thought if I went into the BIOS changed the boot order that would do
it. But no matter which letter C, D or E I put first it still boots to
the original C partition.
Question number two is am I doing something wrong? Should I not be
able to boot to either drive?

Saved this from a long time ago :
If you are adding a second drive and do not want to change the lettering
scheme of the master drive, do not put a primary partition on the second
drive. Note: If you are dual booting operating systems, you may need
another primary partition to load the system to.

Your drive-naming options, as Ron Badour pointed out, are almost
non-existent in Windows Me and the Windows 9x family, owing to their roots
back to DOS 1.0 in 1981. In Windows 2000, by contrast, this step is
trivially easy, and to a large extent, you *can* manage the drive letters.
What I would do if I were you is to buy a copy of Partition Magic, and
use it to manage your partitions. I'd make the largest and fastest hard
drive as C:, and use the other as D:, and forget having a drive E: at all
unless there is a very specific reason for wanting to do so. With or
without
Partition Magic, however, Ron's list of drive lettering rules and protocol
is hard and immutable in Windows 9x and Me.

Win9x will always name the second hard drive as "D"
(Unless you intervene using a third party program like Partition Magic,
with which you can have two Primary partitions with one "hidden" until you
tell it to boot to it)

On Jan 26, 11:04*pm, "Sunny" wrote:
"DJW" wrote in message

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I have a computer with a partitioned hard drive C and D with windows
98SE on it that is jumped as a master. I added another hard drive that
I ran FDISK and FORMAT which became E jumped as a slave.
I decided to see if I could get windows 98SE on both so I disconnected
the master hard drive and jumped the slave to be the master and put it
on the end of the ribbon cable. I then re-ran FDISK and FORMAT and
then installed another windows 98SE on it. That drive naturally was C
drive.
I then disconnected it and reconnected the original master to the end
of the ribbon cable. I then removed the jumpers from the other hard
drive that made it a slave again and then connected it to the middle
of the ribbon cable.
To my surprise I found that it became D drive and the master
partitioned into two parts became C and E drive.
Question one is why did the master not keep C and D as the letters and
the slave stay at E instead of becoming D.
But what I wanted to be able to do is boot from either hard drive. I
thought if I went into the BIOS changed the boot order that would do
it. But no matter which letter C, D or E I put first it still boots to
the original C partition.
Question number two is am I doing something wrong? Should I not be
able to boot to either drive?

Saved this from a long time ago *:
If you are adding a second drive and do not want to change the lettering
scheme of the master drive, do not put a primary partition on the second
drive. *Note: *If you are dual booting operating systems, you may need
another primary partition to load the system to.

Your drive-naming options, as Ron Badour pointed out, are almost
non-existent in Windows Me and the Windows 9x family, owing to their roots
back to DOS 1.0 in 1981. In Windows 2000, by contrast, this step is
trivially easy, and to a large extent, you *can* manage the drive letters..
* *What I would do if I were you is to buy a copy of Partition Magic, and
use it to manage your partitions. I'd make the largest and fastest hard
drive as C:, and use the other as D:, and forget having a drive E: at all
unless there is a very specific reason for wanting to do so. With or
without
Partition Magic, however, Ron's list of drive lettering rules and protocol
is hard and immutable in Windows 9x and Me.

Win9x will always name the second hard drive as *"D"
(Unless you intervene using a third party program like Partition Magic,
with which you can have two Primary partitions with one "hidden" until you
tell it to boot to it)

Rember I have the master in two partitions so can't forget E.. but
that was just a question the real thing is I want to with the BIOS
boot order be able to use either win98SE on either drive to boot off
either one when I want

DJW wrote:

Rember I have the master in two partitions so can't forget E.. but
that was just a question the real thing is I want to with the BIOS
boot order be able to use either win98SE on either drive to boot off
either one when I want

The boot disc for Win98 has to be C:. Needs to be a "primary" drive and set
to "active" as well.

Whatever drive is in the master position on the primary channel will become
C:

The simplest thing to do what you want (I did it for years) is to have two
physical drives. Each should be set to cable select or master and each
should be on a separate mobo IDE slot. Set up each drive with at least one
primary partition and set it to active. Install your soft on each, one at a
time, with it on the primary channel (or, install on one, copy to the
other).

When you want to boot from the second drive, swap the primary channel IDE
cables at the drives.

Letter Assigner (DAGS) is handy to keep your drives lettered as you wish.
You should also assign a label (name) to each drive so you can keep them
straight in your mind.


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"DJW" wrote in message
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But no matter which letter C, D or E I put first it still boots to
the original C partition.
Question number two is am I doing something wrong? Should I not be
able to boot to either drive?

If windows 98 SE is Install on C: it will always be Boot up on C:
If windows 98 SE is Install on D: it will always be Boot up on C:
If windows 98 SE is Install on E: it will always be Boot up on C:
For the Boot is all ways on C: in Windows
But if you PC have a Primary IDE controller Swap to Secondary IDE
controller
Then windows 98 SE Copy on E: Will become C: it will Boot up as on C:

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On Jan 28, 1:46*am, "MyNews" wrote:
"DJW" wrote in message

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But no matter which letter C, D or E I put first it still boots to
the original C partition.
Question number two is am I doing something wrong? Should I not be
able to boot to either drive?

If windows 98 SE is Install on C: it will always be Boot up on C:
If windows 98 SE is Install on D: it will always be Boot up on C:
If windows 98 SE is Install on E: it will always be Boot up on C:
For the Boot is all ways on C: in Windows
But if you PC have a Primary IDE controller Swap *to Secondary IDE
controller
Then *windows 98 SE *Copy on E: Will become C: it will *Boot up as on C:

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Don't think this mother board is capable of cable select (BE6 version
1) I do think by the cable plug colors it is a ribbon cable that can
be used for cable select however.
But what I am hearing above is that I would need to physically open
the computer and make plug swiches in order to change the Hard drive
booting
I am a Mac guy and as long as the Mac has been been in this world it
has been an easy thing to Boot differnt systems with keys held down at
startup to boot from anything on an IDE or SCSI bus that has an OS
that can work on that model computer.
Does the newer windows (XP, vista or 7) let you switch boot OSs on the
fly so to speak?
Thanks for all your help and imput on this issue.

"DJW" wrote in message
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Don't think this mother board is capable of cable select (BE6 version

Out of 6 PC I have one that can and it BCM with WHIZPRO
http://www.bcmcom.com/bcm_support_dr...osDownload.htm

1) I do think by the cable plug colors it is a ribbon cable that can
be used for cable select however.

We need to Know the names of the Two HDD!
You have to set the jumper
Master
Slave
Cable Select

But what I am hearing above is that I would need to physically open
the computer and make plug swiches in order to change the Hard drive
booting

True to set Jumper on the two HDD you have to physically open!


I am a Mac guy and as long as the Mac has been been in this world it

And you can run a Mac Swap to Windows 98 PC,
That how we Made Windows is on a MAC!

has been an easy thing to Boot differnt systems with keys held down at
startup to boot from anything on an IDE or SCSI bus that has an OS
that can work on that model computer.
Does the newer windows (XP, vista or 7) let you switch boot OSs on the
fly so to speak?

YES

Thanks for all your help and imput on this issue.


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DJW wrote:

Does the newer windows (XP, vista or 7) let you switch boot OSs on the
fly so to speak?


Yes.



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On Thu, 27 Jan 2011 10:57:30 -0600, DJW wrote:

On Jan 26, 11:04 pm, "Sunny" wrote:
Partition Magic, however, Ron's list of drive lettering rules and
protocol
is hard and immutable in Windows 9x and Me.

Win9x will always name the second hard drive as "D"
(Unless you intervene using a third party program like Partition Magic,
with which you can have two Primary partitions with one "hidden" until
you
tell it to boot to it)

Rember I have the master in two partitions so can't forget E.. but
that was just a question the real thing is I want to with the BIOS
boot order be able to use either win98SE on either drive to boot off
either one when I want

Sunny is Right
And Remember you have the master in two partitions!
Master One call at Boot C:\windows\Win.exe to start Running!
If Master Two is a Copy of One, at Boot calls E:\windows\Win.exe and it
will not run!
For the Boot on E: Say it's at C:\windows\Win.exe and that a Error!

With Partition Magic you can make it Swap E: To C: and it will Boot E: as
C:!
Or D: as C: Or F: as C:
It make a HDD 1 look like HDD 0
Or HDD 1 partition 2 D: run as it's HDD 0 partition 1 or C:
So that a Copy of Windows on C: to D:
Win call At Swap to Boot,
SWap will lie to Windows D: and say You on C: Run and it will Work!

So work with Sunny he will get you up and running!
he will give you all the Right Links to make work!
and add a System he know how!

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Not True!

I Have Win98 on C:, D:, E, and one F: And that PC Windows 2000 is on D:
Now how i do that!

So DJW Not True

For we will help hem set it up in the MEM


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