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brainz wrote:
"Darren Harris" wrote It's a royal pain to have to adjust my toolbar every other day, but it worse when some new crap inserts itself there. Sounds like a job for hijackThis.exe http://www.majorgeeks.com/download.php?det=3155 kind regards brainz Darren, AdAware and Spybot don't run on your Windows ME? Hmmm, I would suggest to get a copy of CWShredder, and check whether you have one of those... there are a few out there that target Anti-spyware tools like those. If you can download HiJackThis (as suggested earlier) then it is a good idea to run a scan with it, save the log file, and post it to one of the many anti-spyware forums. Oh, before you remove any spyware... disable your system restore points... your faithful OS otherwise may thing that you miss something really necessary... and put it back again! When your system is cleaned, I would advise you to install SpywareBlaster and SpyWareGuard (http://www.javacoolsoftware.com). HtH Dick |
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Oh, before you remove any spyware... disable your system restore
points... your faithful OS otherwise may thing that you miss something really necessary... and put it back again! It doesn't work that way. Shane |
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Shane wrote:
Oh, before you remove any spyware... disable your system restore points... your faithful OS otherwise may thing that you miss something really necessary... and put it back again! It doesn't work that way. Shane No? Have a thorough look at the "Anti-Spyware" support forums, when they find out that you're running ME or XP, the first thing they will tell you is that you should turn off System Restore... for the simple reason I wrote above.... BTW: It's the same with virus infections: turn off the setting, clean the system, turn the setting on again! Regards Dick |
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Dick Hazeleger wrote:
No? Have a thorough look at the "Anti-Spyware" support forums, when they find out that you're running ME or XP, the first thing they will tell you is that you should turn off System Restore... for the simple reason I wrote above.... BTW: It's the same with virus infections: turn off the setting, clean the system, turn the setting on again! And everyone who gives such advice is wrong and clearly doesn't understand what and how system restore works. Disable SR and clear the archive once the problem is resolved but not before as this removes the lifeline of being able to restore a trashed system to a good state using a system checkpoint created before infection. An infected archive will never cause a problem unless a user voluntarily chooses to restore to a checkpoint created after infection and before the system was cleaned. Even that might be acceptable if the user manages to create an unusable system whilst trying to clean their system. -- Mike Maltby MS-MVP |
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either way works.......fix - disable - re-enable - disable -
fix - re-enable personally-I would not want to restore to an infected restore point "Mike M" wrote in message ... Dick Hazeleger wrote: No? Have a thorough look at the "Anti-Spyware" support forums, when they find out that you're running ME or XP, the first thing they will tell you is that you should turn off System Restore... for the simple reason I wrote above.... BTW: It's the same with virus infections: turn off the setting, clean the system, turn the setting on again! And everyone who gives such advice is wrong and clearly doesn't understand what and how system restore works. Disable SR and clear the archive once the problem is resolved but not before as this removes the lifeline of being able to restore a trashed system to a good state using a system checkpoint created before infection. An infected archive will never cause a problem unless a user voluntarily chooses to restore to a checkpoint created after infection and before the system was cleaned. Even that might be acceptable if the user manages to create an unusable system whilst trying to clean their system. -- Mike Maltby MS-MVP |
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But if not yourself a user may well want to restore to an uninfected
checkpoint created prior to any infection. By flushing the restore archive as a first action one removes such action from ones armoury of tools. -- Mike Maltby MS-MVP JAD wrote: either way works.......fix - disable - re-enable - disable - fix - re-enable personally-I would not want to restore to an infected restore point |
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"personally-I would" this would mean its my opinion...I wouldn't
you can "Mike M" wrote in message ... But if not yourself a user may well want to restore to an uninfected checkpoint created prior to any infection. By flushing the restore archive as a first action one removes such action from ones armoury of tools. -- Mike Maltby MS-MVP JAD wrote: either way works.......fix - disable - re-enable - disable - fix - re-enable not want to restore to an infected restore point |
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JAD.......
You are not understanding what Mike is saying to you......and any others that follow your line of thinking. I will admit it took me a while to *get it*, but perhaps I can put it in simpler English for you. Make that *Canadian English* (G). If you disable and clear out the System Restore BEFORE getting rid of the offending object, you have also thrown away any chance of restoring your computer, should you happen to screw something up!!! You will have NO restore points to go back to. In other words, you CAN restore to a point BEFORE you got infected and you will NOT be restoring the virus/trojan/whatever to your computer. Is this any clearer?? And Mike......I hope I got that across right.....or for that matter, I hope I got it right, grin!! It is a hard concept for people to get their minds around.......all they are thinking is *get rid of this blasted malware*!! Cheers and off for supper......Heather "JAD" wrote in message ... "personally-I would" this would mean its my opinion...I wouldn't you can "Mike M" wrote in message ... But if not yourself a user may well want to restore to an uninfected checkpoint created prior to any infection. By flushing the restore archive as a first action one removes such action from ones armoury of tools. -- Mike Maltby MS-MVP JAD wrote: either way works.......fix - disable - re-enable - disable - fix - re-enable not want to restore to an infected restore point |
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thanks but it was not necessary
restoring to an infected state, for me, serves no purpose. I have never had the displeasure of having a system screwed up because of virus removal since I was on the 12 step 'Rid myself of norton" therapy years ago. AFA spyware and such, it rarely infects my machines and has never been a big problem. when it does, hijackthis is the ultimate in removal. (and should be used by some one who understands the difference between 'BACK up' and system restore. ;^) "Heather" wrote in message ... JAD....... You are not understanding what Mike is saying to you......and any others that follow your line of thinking. I will admit it took me a while to *get it*, but perhaps I can put it in simpler English for you. Make that *Canadian English* (G). If you disable and clear out the System Restore BEFORE getting rid of the offending object, you have also thrown away any chance of restoring your computer, should you happen to screw something up!!! You will have NO restore points to go back to. In other words, you CAN restore to a point BEFORE you got infected and you will NOT be restoring the virus/trojan/whatever to your computer. Is this any clearer?? And Mike......I hope I got that across right.....or for that matter, I hope I got it right, grin!! It is a hard concept for people to get their minds around.......all they are thinking is *get rid of this blasted malware*!! Cheers and off for supper......Heather "JAD" wrote in message ... "personally-I would" this would mean its my opinion...I wouldn't you can "Mike M" wrote in message ... But if not yourself a user may well want to restore to an uninfected checkpoint created prior to any infection. By flushing the restore archive as a first action one removes such action from ones armoury of tools. -- Mike Maltby MS-MVP JAD wrote: either way works.......fix - disable - re-enable - disable - fix - re-enable not want to restore to an infected restore point |
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You clearly still don't understand otherwise you wouldn't have posted as
you have. Using system restore it is possible to restore to a clean uninfected state by restoring to a checkpoint created before infection. By flushing the restore folder prior to any attempt to cleanse a system such an option is lost. -- Mike Maltby MS-MVP [2001-2005] JAD wrote: thanks but it was not necessary restoring to an infected state, for me, serves no purpose. I have never had the displeasure of having a system screwed up because of virus removal since I was on the 12 step 'Rid myself of norton" therapy years ago. AFA spyware and such, it rarely infects my machines and has never been a big problem. when it does, hijackthis is the ultimate in removal. (and should be used by some one who understands the difference between 'BACK up' and system restore. ;^) |
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