To Gary Terhune on fixing CD drive

Gary, many moons ago (July 2004) you gave me full instructions on
removing drivers from the Device Manager in an attempt to fix my CD
drive. You thought that either that would fix it, or that the drive
needed replacing. I put the instructions aside to work on later, then
sort of let it slide and didn't get back to it until today. :-)

I just did it all, as per your instructions, and the CD drive still
doesn't work. So I'll buy a replacement. Just as well. I'll buy a
re-writable CD drive and that will be very useful for backups.

Thanks again,
Larry

Note: While it's *likely* the drive needs replacing if you're certain
that all the jumpers and cables are properly connected, and you've
reinstalled *all* of the drivers in the IDE tree, it's also possible
that some other issue is to blame. Unfortunately, by the time you get to
such a pass, trying a different CD drive is actually the next
trouble-shooting step. If you have a friend or relative who can loan you
a drive for testing purposes, you might save some money.

Personally, I like having a plain old CD/DVD drive (for reading only)
*and* a more expensive CD burner. Better to have two devices for such
tasks than to bet your farm on only one "do-it-all" device, even if it's
a high-quality "do-it-all" device.

--
Gary S. Terhune
MS MVP Shell/User
http://www.grystmill.com/articles/cleanboot.htm
http://www.grystmill.com/articles/security.htm

"Larry" wrote in message
...
Gary, many moons ago (July 2004) you gave me full instructions on
removing drivers from the Device Manager in an attempt to fix my CD
drive. You thought that either that would fix it, or that the drive
needed replacing. I put the instructions aside to work on later, then
sort of let it slide and didn't get back to it until today. :-)

I just did it all, as per your instructions, and the CD drive still
doesn't work. So I'll buy a replacement. Just as well. I'll buy a
re-writable CD drive and that will be very useful for backups.

Thanks again,
Larry

On Sun, 13 Feb 2005 11:08:30 -0800, "Gary S. Terhune"
wrote:

Note: While it's *likely* the drive needs replacing if you're certain
that all the jumpers and cables are properly connected, and you've
reinstalled *all* of the drivers in the IDE tree, it's also possible
that some other issue is to blame.

The first time my CDRW didn't work, we reinstalled the
(updated?) drivers. The last time my CD didn't work, I
popped in the same disk cleaner we use on the DVD and voila
- problem solved!

I don't recall the specifics of Larry's problem. You might have
something there.

--
Gary S. Terhune
MS MVP Shell/User
http://www.grystmill.com/articles/cleanboot.htm
http://www.grystmill.com/articles/security.htm

"sf" wrote in message
...
On Sun, 13 Feb 2005 11:08:30 -0800, "Gary S. Terhune"
wrote:

Note: While it's *likely* the drive needs replacing if you're
certain
that all the jumpers and cables are properly connected, and you've
reinstalled *all* of the drivers in the IDE tree, it's also
possible
that some other issue is to blame.

The first time my CDRW didn't work, we reinstalled the
(updated?) drivers. The last time my CD didn't work, I
popped in the same disk cleaner we use on the DVD and voila
- problem solved!

If you want to refresh:
http://tinyurl.com/63z99

--

Brian A.

Conflicts start where information lacks.
http://www.dts-l.org/goodpost.htm


"Gary S. Terhune" wrote in message
...
I don't recall the specifics of Larry's problem. You might have
something there.

--
Gary S. Terhune
MS MVP Shell/User
http://www.grystmill.com/articles/cleanboot.htm
http://www.grystmill.com/articles/security.htm

"sf" wrote in message
...
On Sun, 13 Feb 2005 11:08:30 -0800, "Gary S. Terhune"
wrote:

Note: While it's *likely* the drive needs replacing if you're
certain
that all the jumpers and cables are properly connected, and you've
reinstalled *all* of the drivers in the IDE tree, it's also
possible
that some other issue is to blame.

The first time my CDRW didn't work, we reinstalled the
(updated?) drivers. The last time my CD didn't work, I
popped in the same disk cleaner we use on the DVD and voila
- problem solved!

Brian, can you tell me exactly how you googled this copy of the original
discussion? This would be useful. I was trying to find it myself via
google and couldn't come up with it.

Thanks.



Brian A. wrote:
If you want to refresh:
http://tinyurl.com/63z99


"Gary S. Terhune" wrote in message
...
I don't recall the specifics of Larry's problem. You might have
something there.

--
Gary S. Terhune
MS MVP Shell/User
http://www.grystmill.com/articles/cleanboot.htm
http://www.grystmill.com/articles/security.htm

"sf" wrote in message
...
On Sun, 13 Feb 2005 11:08:30 -0800, "Gary S. Terhune"
wrote:

Note: While it's *likely* the drive needs replacing if you're
certain
that all the jumpers and cables are properly connected, and
you've reinstalled *all* of the drivers in the IDE tree, it's
also
possible
that some other issue is to blame.

The first time my CDRW didn't work, we reinstalled the
(updated?) drivers. The last time my CD didn't work, I
popped in the same disk cleaner we use on the DVD and voila
- problem solved!

Yes, thank you. And I see I *did* mention a "cleaner", though rather
disparagingly. My own experience with such is that they are seldom the
solution. Then again, I'm not prone to using a lot of CDs in my systems,
especially not music or other multimedia CDs. My own experience is that
for the cost of a decent cleaner, you're well on the way to the cost of
a new drive.

Still, if you're a user that runs a lot of CDs, especially CDs that are
also used in other drives, players, etc., such that gunk buildup is a
common affair, I suppose a cleaner system would be worth investing in.

--
Gary S. Terhune
MS MVP Shell/User
http://www.grystmill.com/articles/cleanboot.htm
http://www.grystmill.com/articles/security.htm

"Brian A." gonefish'n@afarawaylake wrote in message
...
If you want to refresh:
http://tinyurl.com/63z99

--

Brian A.

Conflicts start where information lacks.
http://www.dts-l.org/goodpost.htm


"Gary S. Terhune" wrote in message
...
I don't recall the specifics of Larry's problem. You might have
something there.

--
Gary S. Terhune
MS MVP Shell/User
http://www.grystmill.com/articles/cleanboot.htm
http://www.grystmill.com/articles/security.htm

"sf" wrote in message
...
On Sun, 13 Feb 2005 11:08:30 -0800, "Gary S. Terhune"
wrote:

Note: While it's *likely* the drive needs replacing if you're
certain
that all the jumpers and cables are properly connected, and
you've
reinstalled *all* of the drivers in the IDE tree, it's also
possible
that some other issue is to blame.

The first time my CDRW didn't work, we reinstalled the
(updated?) drivers. The last time my CD didn't work, I
popped in the same disk cleaner we use on the DVD and voila
- problem solved!

I wondered about NOIDE. Had to go thru the entire post to see it was
mentioned. Why is it that no matter what you try to find, it's always at the
bottom? Murphy!

--

Brian A.

Conflicts start where information lacks.
http://www.dts-l.org/goodpost.htm


"Gary S. Terhune" wrote in message
...
Yes, thank you. And I see I *did* mention a "cleaner", though rather
disparagingly. My own experience with such is that they are seldom the
solution. Then again, I'm not prone to using a lot of CDs in my systems,
especially not music or other multimedia CDs. My own experience is that
for the cost of a decent cleaner, you're well on the way to the cost of
a new drive.

Still, if you're a user that runs a lot of CDs, especially CDs that are
also used in other drives, players, etc., such that gunk buildup is a
common affair, I suppose a cleaner system would be worth investing in.

--
Gary S. Terhune
MS MVP Shell/User
http://www.grystmill.com/articles/cleanboot.htm
http://www.grystmill.com/articles/security.htm

"Brian A." gonefish'n@afarawaylake wrote in message
...
If you want to refresh:
http://tinyurl.com/63z99

--

Brian A.

Conflicts start where information lacks.
http://www.dts-l.org/goodpost.htm


"Gary S. Terhune" wrote in message
...
I don't recall the specifics of Larry's problem. You might have
something there.

--
Gary S. Terhune
MS MVP Shell/User
http://www.grystmill.com/articles/cleanboot.htm
http://www.grystmill.com/articles/security.htm

"sf" wrote in message
...
On Sun, 13 Feb 2005 11:08:30 -0800, "Gary S. Terhune"
wrote:

Note: While it's *likely* the drive needs replacing if you're
certain
that all the jumpers and cables are properly connected, and
you've
reinstalled *all* of the drivers in the IDE tree, it's also
possible
that some other issue is to blame.

The first time my CDRW didn't work, we reinstalled the
(updated?) drivers. The last time my CD didn't work, I
popped in the same disk cleaner we use on the DVD and voila
- problem solved!

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Brian A.

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"Larry" wrote in message
...
Brian, can you tell me exactly how you googled this copy of the original
discussion? This would be useful. I was trying to find it myself via
google and couldn't come up with it.

Thanks.



Brian A. wrote:
If you want to refresh:
http://tinyurl.com/63z99


"Gary S. Terhune" wrote in message
...
I don't recall the specifics of Larry's problem. You might have
something there.

--
Gary S. Terhune
MS MVP Shell/User
http://www.grystmill.com/articles/cleanboot.htm
http://www.grystmill.com/articles/security.htm

"sf" wrote in message
...
On Sun, 13 Feb 2005 11:08:30 -0800, "Gary S. Terhune"
wrote:

Note: While it's *likely* the drive needs replacing if you're
certain
that all the jumpers and cables are properly connected, and
you've reinstalled *all* of the drivers in the IDE tree, it's
also
possible
that some other issue is to blame.

The first time my CDRW didn't work, we reinstalled the
(updated?) drivers. The last time my CD didn't work, I
popped in the same disk cleaner we use on the DVD and voila
- problem solved!

May be also due to my thinking processes. I tend to think a problem
through to the most likely fix (or sometimes the most scorched-earth
one, particularly where hardware is concerned), then start writing that.
Less common possibilities, conditions and variables get tossed in last.
For better or worse, that's the way I program, too.

--
Gary S. Terhune
MS MVP Shell/User
http://www.grystmill.com/articles/cleanboot.htm
http://www.grystmill.com/articles/security.htm

"Brian A." gonefish'n@afarawaylake wrote in message
...
I wondered about NOIDE. Had to go thru the entire post to see it was
mentioned. Why is it that no matter what you try to find, it's always
at the
bottom? Murphy!

--

Brian A.

Conflicts start where information lacks.
http://www.dts-l.org/goodpost.htm


"Gary S. Terhune" wrote in message
...
Yes, thank you. And I see I *did* mention a "cleaner", though rather
disparagingly. My own experience with such is that they are seldom
the
solution. Then again, I'm not prone to using a lot of CDs in my
systems,
especially not music or other multimedia CDs. My own experience is
that
for the cost of a decent cleaner, you're well on the way to the cost
of
a new drive.

Still, if you're a user that runs a lot of CDs, especially CDs that
are
also used in other drives, players, etc., such that gunk buildup is
a
common affair, I suppose a cleaner system would be worth investing
in.

--
Gary S. Terhune
MS MVP Shell/User
http://www.grystmill.com/articles/cleanboot.htm
http://www.grystmill.com/articles/security.htm

"Brian A." gonefish'n@afarawaylake wrote in message
...
If you want to refresh:
http://tinyurl.com/63z99

--

Brian A.

Conflicts start where information lacks.
http://www.dts-l.org/goodpost.htm


"Gary S. Terhune" wrote in message
...
I don't recall the specifics of Larry's problem. You might have
something there.

--
Gary S. Terhune
MS MVP Shell/User
http://www.grystmill.com/articles/cleanboot.htm
http://www.grystmill.com/articles/security.htm

"sf" wrote in message
...
On Sun, 13 Feb 2005 11:08:30 -0800, "Gary S. Terhune"
wrote:

Note: While it's *likely* the drive needs replacing if you're
certain
that all the jumpers and cables are properly connected, and
you've
reinstalled *all* of the drivers in the IDE tree, it's also
possible
that some other issue is to blame.

The first time my CDRW didn't work, we reinstalled the
(updated?) drivers. The last time my CD didn't work, I
popped in the same disk cleaner we use on the DVD and voila
- problem solved!