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Harry,
Well, leaving aside any question of energy efficiency or pollution - and how much cleaner is diesel smoke? It looks suspiciously like the swings and roundabouts effect familiar to the leaded vs. unleaded petrol question decided not so long ago, to me, but I know which exhaust product I'd rather have to breathe of the two types of loco fuels. Regardless, I think it comes down to: keeping them running was a really *very* labour intensive and filthy job! I think the no. of people prepared to do such work must be quite small, and there are possibly enough locomotives in use now to satisfy them. And if they had to do it every day, most of those would say "sod this for a game of soldiers!" Or presumably, in Wales: "...for a bunch of bananas!" But they actually built a new one! I'd have gone to London to see that when it first came down - but I knew there'd be a thousand people on the platform. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LNER_Pe..._60163_Tornado Shane webster72n wrote: Brings up distant memories, even to us non-British folks. Often the thought occurs to me, how beneficial a revival of this epoch would be in our current situation (probably shouldn't have been abandoned in the first place). Thanks for such inspiring contribution, Shane. Harry. "Lucas Wader-Magneto" wrote in message ... Okay, here's an entirely, gratuitously railway-inspired reminiscences anorak post! I've only just clicked your photo link (http://www.mattallenphoto.co.uk/imag...01-lowres.jpg). I'm a bit confused though at the chocolate and cream stock as I thought those were GWR colours but I'm guessing they might all be Pullmans which I seem to think were chocolate and cream regardless of the region. Yes, the ol' Pullman coaches. Saw them up close on Victoria about 5 years ago - behind SR 'Battle of Britain Class' Tangmere (which I could have seen when I was at Crediton, but at the time I had no idea I could - and I presumably saw as a kid anyway but I bet it was a lot filthier!). Of course, half the time I was in Crediton the trains weren't running on account of the floods having washed the track away! Which was before I got Win Me, since I was trying to get to Exeter to look at the Tinys, when Crediton got cut off. Well, sort of cut off - I did get to Exeter, but only after riding through a river. That must have been about a month before I got the Simply computer that came with Win Me, and maybe another before I found this newsgroup. Anyway - the Pullman coaches. I saw them again when I was on the Thameslink line heading for St Pancs, being hauled away to the West from Cricklewood. Which quite possibly was towards 'home', as they're kept at Old Oak Common at Ealing, I know now - which I pass when I come to London, these days. I don't recall ever seeing them when living in the Southern Region - or, indeed, the GWR livery you mention. I didn't know much about such things. I suppose that livery went at the same time the SR green became BR blue? But the reason I mention it - that viaduct is, iirc, the West Country line, heading for Salisbury/Taunton/Exeter - which probably explains why there was no 3rd rail on it! A regular sight on Basingstoke station when I was a kid were the Western Region hydraulics. I haven't seen them since, though not only are there one or two of the Westerns and the Warships preserved, at least one of them is on the Severn Valley Railway, just up the road from me - but naturally I've never been there! Possibly a good thing though, as it seems wherever I go the railway tracks get washed away - as they did on the SVR two summers back. Of course, now I am in GWR region anyway - where The Cheltenham Flyer became a (pre-Mallard) speed-record holder, on the identical route I now take to Paddington! I saw Mallard when it was at the Transport Museum, and *that* was at Clapham. I was staying with my aunt at Dulwich. Somewhere I've got a photo I took of the Rag'n'Bone Man outside with his horse and cart. I remember seeing the Golden Arrow on Victoria, which looked a bit posh compared to the stuff I typically saw at Waterloo: http://newimages.fotopic.net/?iid=y4...100&noresize=1! (I was on this - five coaches back - in 2005, though it didn't go to the docks, but rather about a three hour blast through the Surrey Downs: http://images5.fotopic.net/?iid=y8q0...=1&nostamp =1) And while I type this 'O-Bla-Di-O-Bla-Da' is playing - and not only was it out about the same time, but I remember reading the Paddington Bear books then. What I want to see, though: http://www.sdrt.org.uk/resources/sto...88snell054.jpg Built 1925 but was apparently never in Prussian Blue. That one is stored at Minehead, I gather. Shane |
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lol I never knew my Dad went that far g wouldn't mind seeing that one
Shane. -- Joan Archer http://www.freewebs.com/crossstitcher http://lachsoft.com/photogallery "Lucas Wader-Magneto" wrote in message ... Somewhere I've got a photo I took of the Rag'n'Bone Man outside with his horse and cart. |
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Makes me so much sadder, Shane and now I have to look up 'Lucas Wader-Magneto', to find out what you are all about bg. Harry. "Lucas Wader-Magneto" wrote in message ... Harry, Well, leaving aside any question of energy efficiency or pollution - and how much cleaner is diesel smoke? It looks suspiciously like the swings and roundabouts effect familiar to the leaded vs. unleaded petrol question decided not so long ago, to me, but I know which exhaust product I'd rather have to breathe of the two types of loco fuels. Regardless, I think it comes down to: keeping them running was a really *very* labour intensive and filthy job! I think the no. of people prepared to do such work must be quite small, and there are possibly enough locomotives in use now to satisfy them. And if they had to do it every day, most of those would say "sod this for a game of soldiers!" Or presumably, in Wales: "...for a bunch of bananas!" But they actually built a new one! I'd have gone to London to see that when it first came down - but I knew there'd be a thousand people on the platform. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LNER_Pe..._60163_Tornado Shane webster72n wrote: Brings up distant memories, even to us non-British folks. Often the thought occurs to me, how beneficial a revival of this epoch would be in our current situation (probably shouldn't have been abandoned in the first place). Thanks for such inspiring contribution, Shane. Harry. "Lucas Wader-Magneto" wrote in message ... Okay, here's an entirely, gratuitously railway-inspired reminiscences anorak post! I've only just clicked your photo link (http://www.mattallenphoto.co.uk/imag...01-lowres.jpg). I'm a bit confused though at the chocolate and cream stock as I thought those were GWR colours but I'm guessing they might all be Pullmans which I seem to think were chocolate and cream regardless of the region. Yes, the ol' Pullman coaches. Saw them up close on Victoria about 5 years ago - behind SR 'Battle of Britain Class' Tangmere (which I could have seen when I was at Crediton, but at the time I had no idea I could - and I presumably saw as a kid anyway but I bet it was a lot filthier!). Of course, half the time I was in Crediton the trains weren't running on account of the floods having washed the track away! Which was before I got Win Me, since I was trying to get to Exeter to look at the Tinys, when Crediton got cut off. Well, sort of cut off - I did get to Exeter, but only after riding through a river. That must have been about a month before I got the Simply computer that came with Win Me, and maybe another before I found this newsgroup. Anyway - the Pullman coaches. I saw them again when I was on the Thameslink line heading for St Pancs, being hauled away to the West from Cricklewood. Which quite possibly was towards 'home', as they're kept at Old Oak Common at Ealing, I know now - which I pass when I come to London, these days. I don't recall ever seeing them when living in the Southern Region - or, indeed, the GWR livery you mention. I didn't know much about such things. I suppose that livery went at the same time the SR green became BR blue? But the reason I mention it - that viaduct is, iirc, the West Country line, heading for Salisbury/Taunton/Exeter - which probably explains why there was no 3rd rail on it! A regular sight on Basingstoke station when I was a kid were the Western Region hydraulics. I haven't seen them since, though not only are there one or two of the Westerns and the Warships preserved, at least one of them is on the Severn Valley Railway, just up the road from me - but naturally I've never been there! Possibly a good thing though, as it seems wherever I go the railway tracks get washed away - as they did on the SVR two summers back. Of course, now I am in GWR region anyway - where The Cheltenham Flyer became a (pre-Mallard) speed-record holder, on the identical route I now take to Paddington! I saw Mallard when it was at the Transport Museum, and *that* was at Clapham. I was staying with my aunt at Dulwich. Somewhere I've got a photo I took of the Rag'n'Bone Man outside with his horse and cart. I remember seeing the Golden Arrow on Victoria, which looked a bit posh compared to the stuff I typically saw at Waterloo: http://newimages.fotopic.net/?iid=y4...100&noresize=1! (I was on this - five coaches back - in 2005, though it didn't go to the docks, but rather about a three hour blast through the Surrey Downs: http://images5.fotopic.net/?iid=y8q0...=1&nostamp =1) And while I type this 'O-Bla-Di-O-Bla-Da' is playing - and not only was it out about the same time, but I remember reading the Paddington Bear books then. What I want to see, though: http://www.sdrt.org.uk/resources/sto...88snell054.jpg Built 1925 but was apparently never in Prussian Blue. That one is stored at Minehead, I gather. Shane |
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If I ever find it...
Incidentally, Joan, I see the A1 Tornado spent some time on the GCR! Joan Archer wrote: lol I never knew my Dad went that far g wouldn't mind seeing that one Shane. Somewhere I've got a photo I took of the Rag'n'Bone Man outside with his horse and cart. |
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Hello Again:
Out of curiosity, I checked the Rising Anti-Virus web sites (both the free and paid editions). I also downloaded the manual for the 2009 version (and had previously downloaded the manual for the 2008 version). What I found was that the 2008 manual stated that the Windows systems requirements we "Windows Operating System: Windows 98/Me or Windows NT4.0/2000/XP/2003." The 2009 manual stated: "Windows Operating System: Windows 2000/XP/2003/Vista," with no mention of Windows 98/ME. I contacted the company and asked why the 2009 did not mention the older versions of Windows, but that the systems requirements web page did. (See: http://www.rising-global.com/product...irus-2009.html .) They replied that the web page had inadvertently not been updated to eliminate the mention of Windows 98/ME. They have now (as of today) updated the web page to match the 2009 manual, which does not include Windows 98/ME. So, officially, Rising AV no longer supports the older versions of Windows. However, they did say that Rising Anti-Virus 2009 could be installed and updated on Win 98/ME, but that the "Smart Active Defense" features would not function. So this is just another reason not to consider this product for Windows 98/ME. Cheers, Jerry From: hdoherty@NO SPAMns.sympatico.ca (Hugh Doherty) I need a new free anti-virus program to work with my beloved WinMe, and Rising Anti-virus Free and Avast seem to be the only ones around. Avast stops support for WinMe at the end of this year, leaving Rising as my best bet. Anyone with experience with Rising Free? Good? Bad? |
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Well, to put me in context: Steve McQueen would have had one on his ISDT
Triumph. webster72n wrote: Makes me so much sadder, Shane and now I have to look up 'Lucas Wader-Magneto', to find out what you are all about bg. Harry. "Lucas Wader-Magneto" wrote in message ... Harry, Well, leaving aside any question of energy efficiency or pollution - and how much cleaner is diesel smoke? It looks suspiciously like the swings and roundabouts effect familiar to the leaded vs. unleaded petrol question decided not so long ago, to me, but I know which exhaust product I'd rather have to breathe of the two types of loco fuels. Regardless, I think it comes down to: keeping them running was a really *very* labour intensive and filthy job! I think the no. of people prepared to do such work must be quite small, and there are possibly enough locomotives in use now to satisfy them. And if they had to do it every day, most of those would say "sod this for a game of soldiers!" Or presumably, in Wales: "...for a bunch of bananas!" But they actually built a new one! I'd have gone to London to see that when it first came down - but I knew there'd be a thousand people on the platform. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LNER_Pe..._60163_Tornado Shane webster72n wrote: Brings up distant memories, even to us non-British folks. Often the thought occurs to me, how beneficial a revival of this epoch would be in our current situation (probably shouldn't have been abandoned in the first place). Thanks for such inspiring contribution, Shane. Harry. "Lucas Wader-Magneto" wrote in message ... Okay, here's an entirely, gratuitously railway-inspired reminiscences anorak post! I've only just clicked your photo link (http://www.mattallenphoto.co.uk/imag...01-lowres.jpg). I'm a bit confused though at the chocolate and cream stock as I thought those were GWR colours but I'm guessing they might all be Pullmans which I seem to think were chocolate and cream regardless of the region. Yes, the ol' Pullman coaches. Saw them up close on Victoria about 5 years ago - behind SR 'Battle of Britain Class' Tangmere (which I could have seen when I was at Crediton, but at the time I had no idea I could - and I presumably saw as a kid anyway but I bet it was a lot filthier!). Of course, half the time I was in Crediton the trains weren't running on account of the floods having washed the track away! Which was before I got Win Me, since I was trying to get to Exeter to look at the Tinys, when Crediton got cut off. Well, sort of cut off - I did get to Exeter, but only after riding through a river. That must have been about a month before I got the Simply computer that came with Win Me, and maybe another before I found this newsgroup. Anyway - the Pullman coaches. I saw them again when I was on the Thameslink line heading for St Pancs, being hauled away to the West from Cricklewood. Which quite possibly was towards 'home', as they're kept at Old Oak Common at Ealing, I know now - which I pass when I come to London, these days. I don't recall ever seeing them when living in the Southern Region - or, indeed, the GWR livery you mention. I didn't know much about such things. I suppose that livery went at the same time the SR green became BR blue? But the reason I mention it - that viaduct is, iirc, the West Country line, heading for Salisbury/Taunton/Exeter - which probably explains why there was no 3rd rail on it! A regular sight on Basingstoke station when I was a kid were the Western Region hydraulics. I haven't seen them since, though not only are there one or two of the Westerns and the Warships preserved, at least one of them is on the Severn Valley Railway, just up the road from me - but naturally I've never been there! Possibly a good thing though, as it seems wherever I go the railway tracks get washed away - as they did on the SVR two summers back. Of course, now I am in GWR region anyway - where The Cheltenham Flyer became a (pre-Mallard) speed-record holder, on the identical route I now take to Paddington! I saw Mallard when it was at the Transport Museum, and *that* was at Clapham. I was staying with my aunt at Dulwich. Somewhere I've got a photo I took of the Rag'n'Bone Man outside with his horse and cart. I remember seeing the Golden Arrow on Victoria, which looked a bit posh compared to the stuff I typically saw at Waterloo: http://newimages.fotopic.net/?iid=y4...100&noresize=1! (I was on this - five coaches back - in 2005, though it didn't go to the docks, but rather about a three hour blast through the Surrey Downs: http://images5.fotopic.net/?iid=y8q0...=1&nostamp =1) And while I type this 'O-Bla-Di-O-Bla-Da' is playing - and not only was it out about the same time, but I remember reading the Paddington Bear books then. What I want to see, though: http://www.sdrt.org.uk/resources/sto...88snell054.jpg Built 1925 but was apparently never in Prussian Blue. That one is stored at Minehead, I gather. Shane |
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