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  #11  
Old February 19th 09, 10:31 AM posted to microsoft.public.windowsme.general
Noel Paton[_2_]
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"Heather" wrote in message
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"webster72n" wrote in message
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"AAH" wrote in message
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C:\ Total Space 12.2 GB
Used Space 4.13 GB
Free Space 8.11 GB
SR Space Allocated 460MB

It automatically deletes the all SR points
without any warning or any error message.
I have tried by clearing and resetting but
no luck.
Any help would be appreciated.


I see you are using Avast, it definitely is interfering with SR in WinME.

And how do you see that?? He said he was using the old Norman one.

Headers, Figgs - the only thing is that he seems to have been looking at his
own headers! g

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  #12  
Old February 19th 09, 12:59 PM posted to microsoft.public.windowsme.general
Mart
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Like you Mike, I'm more than a little curious as to why AHH 'routinely'
restores "last weeks? rbxxx.cab file". Why he should want to revert to a
previous registry - presumably when things are working normally - and why he
would want to use scanreg (/restore) to do it whilst he has System Restore
to do a better job, escapes me. As you say Mike, he's undoing all or any
changes he has made to the system during the course of the week including
quite possibly data (definitions) used by his AV application. The whole
exercise seems fraught with hurdles and potential problems - perhaps this
could even be the cause of his new problem.

I'm not saying that scanreg doesn't have its uses - it can often be the
final get-out-of-jail card if all else fails - nor SR for that matter, but
to run it routinely for no apparent reason seems to be, well - "curious".

Mart


"Mike M" wrote in message
...
Firstly,

Something has changed otherwise the problem would always have existed.

If you were to create a checkpoint now and then reboot would the
checkpoint still be present? If still present how long does it last
before it gets flushed?

Out of curiosity why do you restore the registry each week using the
backup created by scanreg? I find this most odd and means that you are
undoing all or any changes you have made to the system during the course
of the week including quite possibly data used by your AV application.

Does the problem persist if you temporarily disable or remove
SuperAntiSpyware?
--
Mike Maltby



AAH wrote:

More information required. For example when are the SR checkpoints
being deleted? On boot up or at some other time? What


It could be either on bootup or shutdown
Cannot 100 percent pinpoint.

changes have you made to
your system since system restore was working correctly?


NO Changes. The only thing I do once a week is
to restopre the rbxxx.cab file
The only software which may cause some
irritation is to my memory -- SUPERAntiSpyware---

Can you still
create a manual checkpoint? If you reboot after making a manual
checkpoint is the checkpoint retained? Can you restore to a manual
checkpoint you made earlier?


On reset it creates the point during the first boot.
and any manual point remains in tact during the
boot process.
Both type of points can be restored but very slow.




  #13  
Old February 19th 09, 01:47 PM posted to microsoft.public.windowsme.general
Shane[_7_]
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Default System Restore Points WinMe

It is certainly curious! That's the word that came to my mind - though
whether you put it there is moot. But - possibly pedantically - I would wish
to point out that, if it is just the registry he wants to revert, Scanreg
does a much better job than SR as, all else being equal, SR doesn't restore
case and you are quite likely to end up with lots of files with all
uppercase names after using it, which is in the same ballpark as reading
ng/forum posts or email typed in all caps. Except it's not on the world-wide
interossiter, it's on your own computer (that Microsoft generously allows
you to operate).

Shane

Mart wrote:
Like you Mike, I'm more than a little curious as to why AHH
'routinely' restores "last weeks? rbxxx.cab file". Why he should
want to revert to a previous registry - presumably when things are
working normally - and why he would want to use scanreg (/restore) to
do it whilst he has System Restore to do a better job, escapes me. As
you say Mike, he's undoing all or any changes he has made to the
system during the course of the week including quite possibly data
(definitions) used by his AV application. The whole exercise seems
fraught with hurdles and potential problems - perhaps this could even
be the cause of his new problem.
I'm not saying that scanreg doesn't have its uses - it can often be
the final get-out-of-jail card if all else fails - nor SR for that
matter, but to run it routinely for no apparent reason seems to be,
well - "curious".
Mart


"Mike M" wrote in message
...
Firstly,

Something has changed otherwise the problem would always have
existed. If you were to create a checkpoint now and then reboot would the
checkpoint still be present? If still present how long does it last
before it gets flushed?

Out of curiosity why do you restore the registry each week using the
backup created by scanreg? I find this most odd and means that you
are undoing all or any changes you have made to the system during
the course of the week including quite possibly data used by your AV
application. Does the problem persist if you temporarily disable or
remove
SuperAntiSpyware?
--
Mike Maltby



AAH wrote:

More information required. For example when are the SR checkpoints
being deleted? On boot up or at some other time? What

It could be either on bootup or shutdown
Cannot 100 percent pinpoint.

changes have you made to
your system since system restore was working correctly?

NO Changes. The only thing I do once a week is
to restopre the rbxxx.cab file
The only software which may cause some
irritation is to my memory -- SUPERAntiSpyware---

Can you still
create a manual checkpoint? If you reboot after making a manual
checkpoint is the checkpoint retained? Can you restore to a manual
checkpoint you made earlier?

On reset it creates the point during the first boot.
and any manual point remains in tact during the
boot process.
Both type of points can be restored but very slow.



  #14  
Old February 19th 09, 02:30 PM posted to microsoft.public.windowsme.general
Mart
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Posts: 1,190
Default System Restore Points WinMe

Shane wrote :-
I would wish to point out that, if it is just the
registry he wants to revert, Scanreg does a much better job


Fair point Shane, but it could cause much more serious issues if/when trying
to uninstall (or even fix) something at a later date.

uppercase names ... in the same ballpark as
reading ng/forum posts or email typed in all caps.


LOL - or should that be lol?

Mart


"Shane" wrote in message
...
It is certainly curious! That's the word that came to my mind - though
whether you put it there is moot. But - possibly pedantically - I would
wish to point out that, if it is just the registry he wants to revert,
Scanreg does a much better job than SR as, all else being equal, SR
doesn't restore case and you are quite likely to end up with lots of files
with all uppercase names after using it, which is in the same ballpark as
reading ng/forum posts or email typed in all caps. Except it's not on the
world-wide interossiter, it's on your own computer (that Microsoft
generously allows you to operate).

Shane

Mart wrote:
Like you Mike, I'm more than a little curious as to why AHH
'routinely' restores "last weeks? rbxxx.cab file". Why he should
want to revert to a previous registry - presumably when things are
working normally - and why he would want to use scanreg (/restore) to
do it whilst he has System Restore to do a better job, escapes me. As
you say Mike, he's undoing all or any changes he has made to the
system during the course of the week including quite possibly data
(definitions) used by his AV application. The whole exercise seems
fraught with hurdles and potential problems - perhaps this could even
be the cause of his new problem.
I'm not saying that scanreg doesn't have its uses - it can often be
the final get-out-of-jail card if all else fails - nor SR for that
matter, but to run it routinely for no apparent reason seems to be,
well - "curious".
Mart


"Mike M" wrote in message
...
Firstly,

Something has changed otherwise the problem would always have
existed. If you were to create a checkpoint now and then reboot would
the
checkpoint still be present? If still present how long does it last
before it gets flushed?

Out of curiosity why do you restore the registry each week using the
backup created by scanreg? I find this most odd and means that you
are undoing all or any changes you have made to the system during
the course of the week including quite possibly data used by your AV
application. Does the problem persist if you temporarily disable or
remove
SuperAntiSpyware?
--
Mike Maltby



AAH wrote:

More information required. For example when are the SR checkpoints
being deleted? On boot up or at some other time? What

It could be either on bootup or shutdown
Cannot 100 percent pinpoint.

changes have you made to
your system since system restore was working correctly?

NO Changes. The only thing I do once a week is
to restopre the rbxxx.cab file
The only software which may cause some
irritation is to my memory -- SUPERAntiSpyware---

Can you still
create a manual checkpoint? If you reboot after making a manual
checkpoint is the checkpoint retained? Can you restore to a manual
checkpoint you made earlier?

On reset it creates the point during the first boot.
and any manual point remains in tact during the
boot process.
Both type of points can be restored but very slow.





  #15  
Old February 19th 09, 04:27 PM posted to microsoft.public.windowsme.general
Heather
External Usenet User
 
Posts: 781
Default System Restore Points WinMe


"Noel Paton" wrote in message
...
"Heather" wrote in message
...

"webster72n" wrote in message
...

"AAH" wrote in message
...
C:\ Total Space 12.2 GB
Used Space 4.13 GB
Free Space 8.11 GB
SR Space Allocated 460MB

It automatically deletes the all SR points
without any warning or any error message.
I have tried by clearing and resetting but
no luck.
Any help would be appreciated.

I see you are using Avast, it definitely is interfering with SR in
WinME.

And how do you see that?? He said he was using the old Norman one.

Headers, Figgs - the only thing is that he seems to have been looking
at his own headers! g


Chuckling here.....I knew that, but wanted to see what reason he would
give. LOL!!

See you later.....Figgs

--
Noel Paton (MVP 2002-2006)
(CrashFixPC)

Nil Carborundum Illegitemi
http://www.crashfixpc.co.uk



  #16  
Old February 19th 09, 04:31 PM posted to microsoft.public.windowsme.general
Shane[_7_]
External Usenet User
 
Posts: 17
Default System Restore Points WinMe

Mart wrote:
Shane wrote :-
I would wish to point out that, if it is just the
registry he wants to revert, Scanreg does a much better job


Fair point Shane, but it could cause much more serious issues if/when
trying to uninstall (or even fix) something at a later date.


True, but then we come back to the point of the curious practice. I'm
guessing it's in the hope of retaining the registry in a known good state
(though the use of a registry cleaner is, then, at least *potentially*
counter-productive, while implying AAH being for whatever reason
overly-concerned about the state of the registry - still most people who use
registry cleaners don't ritually restore it every week!). I would expect
either way that he rarely installs anything anymore and one might suppose
that, on installing new software, he would update (as it were) the master
registry - but, of course, this is far from certain! However, the AV entries
issue almost certainly will cause problems, the least of which would be
never going online with an up-to-date AV (regardless of whether it is
possible for this particular one ever to be up-to-date again!).

Either way, I suspect we're having a discussion here not so far removed from
the one about the no. of angels dancing on a pin. Perhaps angels = atoms?
This gives me an idea for a sweepstake.


uppercase names ... in the same ballpark as
reading ng/forum posts or email typed in all caps.


LOL - or should that be lol?


How about 5?

Shane



Mart


"Shane" wrote in message
...
It is certainly curious! That's the word that came to my mind -
though whether you put it there is moot. But - possibly pedantically
- I would wish to point out that, if it is just the registry he
wants to revert, Scanreg does a much better job than SR as, all else
being equal, SR doesn't restore case and you are quite likely to end
up with lots of files with all uppercase names after using it, which
is in the same ballpark as reading ng/forum posts or email typed in
all caps. Except it's not on the world-wide interossiter, it's on
your own computer (that Microsoft generously allows you to operate).

Shane

Mart wrote:
Like you Mike, I'm more than a little curious as to why AHH
'routinely' restores "last weeks? rbxxx.cab file". Why he should
want to revert to a previous registry - presumably when things are
working normally - and why he would want to use scanreg (/restore)
to do it whilst he has System Restore to do a better job, escapes
me. As you say Mike, he's undoing all or any changes he has made to
the system during the course of the week including quite possibly
data (definitions) used by his AV application. The whole exercise
seems fraught with hurdles and potential problems - perhaps this
could even be the cause of his new problem.
I'm not saying that scanreg doesn't have its uses - it can often be
the final get-out-of-jail card if all else fails - nor SR for that
matter, but to run it routinely for no apparent reason seems to be,
well - "curious".
Mart


"Mike M" wrote in message
...
Firstly,

Something has changed otherwise the problem would always have
existed. If you were to create a checkpoint now and then reboot
would the
checkpoint still be present? If still present how long does it
last before it gets flushed?

Out of curiosity why do you restore the registry each week using
the backup created by scanreg? I find this most odd and means
that you are undoing all or any changes you have made to the
system during the course of the week including quite possibly data
used by your AV application. Does the problem persist if you
temporarily disable or remove
SuperAntiSpyware?
--
Mike Maltby



AAH wrote:

More information required. For example when are the SR
checkpoints being deleted? On boot up or at some other time? What

It could be either on bootup or shutdown
Cannot 100 percent pinpoint.

changes have you made to
your system since system restore was working correctly?

NO Changes. The only thing I do once a week is
to restopre the rbxxx.cab file
The only software which may cause some
irritation is to my memory -- SUPERAntiSpyware---

Can you still
create a manual checkpoint? If you reboot after making a manual
checkpoint is the checkpoint retained? Can you restore to a
manual checkpoint you made earlier?

On reset it creates the point during the first boot.
and any manual point remains in tact during the
boot process.
Both type of points can be restored but very slow.



  #17  
Old February 19th 09, 05:07 PM posted to microsoft.public.windowsme.general
Mart
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Posts: 1,190
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How about 5?

Then 5? it is!

Mart


  #18  
Old February 19th 09, 06:22 PM posted to microsoft.public.windowsme.general
webster72n
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"Noel Paton" wrote in message
...
"Heather" wrote in message
...

"webster72n" wrote in message
...

"AAH" wrote in message
...
C:\ Total Space 12.2 GB
Used Space 4.13 GB
Free Space 8.11 GB
SR Space Allocated 460MB

It automatically deletes the all SR points
without any warning or any error message.
I have tried by clearing and resetting but
no luck.
Any help would be appreciated.

I see you are using Avast, it definitely is interfering with SR in
WinME.

And how do you see that?? He said he was using the old Norman one.

Headers, Figgs - the only thing is that he seems to have been looking at
his own headers! g


I made sure of that before I posted, Noel. vbg. H.


--
Noel Paton (MVP 2002-2006)
(CrashFixPC)

Nil Carborundum Illegitemi
http://www.crashfixpc.co.uk


  #19  
Old February 19th 09, 06:34 PM posted to microsoft.public.windowsme.general
Noel Paton[_2_]
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Posts: 46
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"webster72n" wrote in message
...

I made sure of that before I posted, Noel. vbg. H.



Duh???

--
Noel Paton (MVP 2002-2006)
(CrashFixPC)

Nil Carborundum Illegitemi
http://www.crashfixpc.co.uk


  #20  
Old February 19th 09, 11:55 PM posted to microsoft.public.windowsme.general
Heather
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Posts: 781
Default System Restore Points WinMe


"Noel Paton" wrote in message
...

"webster72n" wrote in message
...

I made sure of that before I posted, Noel. vbg. H.



Duh???


"DUH" about covers it.....grin

Figgs

--
Noel Paton (MVP 2002-2006)
(CrashFixPC)

Nil Carborundum Illegitemi
http://www.crashfixpc.co.uk



 




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