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Old October 10th 04, 02:50 AM
jhebron
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I am running ME and XP and I can't get them to share files. I am running a
Linysys cable modem and Linksys router. I can get the Internet on both
computers no problem, they just wont see each other to share files and
printers. Is the firewall in XP Service Pak 2 stopping them from anything.
I also have Norton Security and Anti-virus on each computer. Any help would
be greatly appreciated.


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Old October 10th 04, 02:57 AM
JAD
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if you got as far as the FW settings in XP, you should have seen that when
enabled it will stop sharing in most caeses. Especially when using the same
nic to access the internet and the lan


"jhebron" wrote in message
news:fz0ad.363941$Fg5.194989@attbi_s53...
I am running ME and XP and I can't get them to share files. I am running

a
Linysys cable modem and Linksys router. I can get the Internet on both
computers no problem, they just wont see each other to share files and
printers. Is the firewall in XP Service Pak 2 stopping them from

anything.
I also have Norton Security and Anti-virus on each computer. Any help

would
be greatly appreciated.




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Old October 10th 04, 03:54 AM
Steve Winograd [MVP]
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In article fz0ad.363941$Fg5.194989@attbi_s53, "jhebron"
wrote:
I am running ME and XP and I can't get them to share files. I am running a
Linysys cable modem and Linksys router. I can get the Internet on both
computers no problem, they just wont see each other to share files and
printers. Is the firewall in XP Service Pak 2 stopping them from anything.
I also have Norton Security and Anti-virus on each computer. Any help would
be greatly appreciated.


If the XP computer is running Norton Internet Security, you must
disable the built-in Windows Firewall. Running both of them will
cause network problems.

Configure Norton to allow access by other computers on the local area
network.
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Old October 10th 04, 04:10 AM
Steve Winograd [MVP]
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In article , "JAD"
wrote:
I am running ME and XP and I can't get them to share files. I am running

a
Linysys cable modem and Linksys router. I can get the Internet on both
computers no problem, they just wont see each other to share files and
printers. Is the firewall in XP Service Pak 2 stopping them from

anything.
I also have Norton Security and Anti-virus on each computer. Any help

would
be greatly appreciated.


if you got as far as the FW settings in XP, you should have seen that when
enabled it will stop sharing in most caeses. Especially when using the same
nic to access the internet and the lan


The Windows Firewall in XP Service Pack 2 is designed to allow file
and printer sharing on the local area network. This is different than
the Internet Connection Firewall in earlier versions of XP.

In the Windows Firewall properties, click the General tab and set the
mode to "On (recommended)". Then, click the Exceptions tab and make
sure that there's a check mark in the box for File and Printer
Sharing.
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Best Wishes,
Steve Winograd, MS-MVP (Windows Networking)

Please post any reply as a follow-up message in the news group
for everyone to see. I'm sorry, but I don't answer questions
addressed directly to me in E-mail or news groups.

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Steve Winograd's Networking FAQ
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Old October 10th 04, 09:07 AM
N. Miller
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In article , JAD says...

"jhebron" wrote in message
news:fz0ad.363941$Fg5.194989@attbi_s53...


I am running ME and XP and I can't get them to share files. I am running
a Linysys cable modem and Linksys router. I can get the Internet on both
computers no problem, they just wont see each other to share files and
printers. Is the firewall in XP Service Pak 2 stopping them from
anything. I also have Norton Security and Anti-virus on each computer.
Any help would be greatly appreciated.


if you got as far as the FW settings in XP, you should have seen that when
enabled it will stop sharing in most caeses. Especially when using the same
nic to access the internet and the lan


You can't use the same NIC to access the Internet that you use to access the
LAN when you are behind a router. The router sits between the NIC and the
Internet; the NIC can only access the router.

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Old October 10th 04, 09:11 AM
N. Miller
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In article , Z says...

Steve Winograd [MVP] wrote:


If the XP computer is running Norton Internet Security, you must
disable the built-in Windows Firewall. Running both of them will
cause network problems.


Configure Norton to allow access by other computers on the local area
network.


Geez, even better ... if you have XP SP2, dump Norton Internet
Security completely.


Does NIS not block outbound traffic? Windows Firewall, the Windows XP SP2
firewall application does not stop outbound traffic. Between Windows
Firewall and a third party firewall, I would only choose Windows Firewall if
the third party firewall didn't do more than Windows Firewall.

Admittedly, though, there are about a half dozen excellent free software
firewalls which outperform both WF and NIS. One of them is an ancient one
which I still use: Kerio Personal Firewall 2.1.5.

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Old October 10th 04, 10:41 AM
Steve Winograd [MVP]
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In article , N.
Miller wrote:
I am running ME and XP and I can't get them to share files. I am running
a Linysys cable modem and Linksys router. I can get the Internet on both
computers no problem, they just wont see each other to share files and
printers. Is the firewall in XP Service Pak 2 stopping them from
anything. I also have Norton Security and Anti-virus on each computer.
Any help would be greatly appreciated.


if you got as far as the FW settings in XP, you should have seen that when
enabled it will stop sharing in most caeses. Especially when using the same
nic to access the internet and the lan


You can't use the same NIC to access the Internet that you use to access the
LAN when you are behind a router.


Yes, you can.

The router sits between the NIC and the
Internet; the NIC can only access the router.


The NIC accesses the router, and the router gives it access to both
the Internet and the LAN.


Did I misunderstand what you said?
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Old October 10th 04, 11:44 AM
Noel Paton
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I also use Kerio 2.1.5 - as well as the WF (at least that way I only have to
worry about outbound traffic!g)

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"N. Miller" wrote in message
om...
Admittedly, though, there are about a half dozen excellent free software
firewalls which outperform both WF and NIS. One of them is an ancient one
which I still use: Kerio Personal Firewall 2.1.5.

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Norman
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~Fin dein a loluca, En dragu a sei lain
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Old October 10th 04, 03:03 PM
Steve Winograd [MVP]
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In article , "Noel Paton"
wrote:
Admittedly, though, there are about a half dozen excellent free software
firewalls which outperform both WF and NIS. One of them is an ancient one
which I still use: Kerio Personal Firewall 2.1.5.


I also use Kerio 2.1.5 - as well as the WF (at least that way I only have to
worry about outbound traffic!g)


Hi, Noel. Do you use Kerio and Windows Firewall at the same time? If
so, why? I don't think that it gives more protection than using just
Kerio, and Microsoft says that it can cause problems.

XP Service Pack2 has a Help and Support topic ("Why you should only
use one firewall") that says "Two firewalls turned on at the same time
can cause compatibility problems that result in some programs not
working correctly."

If you enable Windows Firewall and then install a recent firewall
program, like Kerio Personal Firewall 4, the Windows Security Center
automatically gives a warning message and points to that Help and
Support topic.
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Steve Winograd, MS-MVP (Windows Networking)

Please post any reply as a follow-up message in the news group
for everyone to see. I'm sorry, but I don't answer questions
addressed directly to me in E-mail or news groups.

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Steve Winograd's Networking FAQ
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Old October 10th 04, 03:25 PM
Noel Paton
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I've had absolutely no problems running both in tandem, Steve.
Note that the version of Kerio I'm running is an old one (2.1.5), so isn't
as pervasive as the more recent v4.

Basically, I don't trust myself not to do stupid things, and the WF helps me
keep clean g - and Kerio I use to check what's actually going out from my
PC, in case I screw up.

I make the (probably false) assumption that Kerio will alert me if anything
new is trying to access the real world, and I can then backtrack to find out
WTF is happening.

I've had no issues between the two whatever - I can't even recall if Kerio
came up with the usual 'changed versions' warning after installing XP
(during which both Kerio and AVG were live and operating, BTW), but ASSume
that it must have.



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"Steve Winograd [MVP]" wrote in message
...
In article , "Noel Paton"
wrote:
Admittedly, though, there are about a half dozen excellent free software
firewalls which outperform both WF and NIS. One of them is an ancient
one
which I still use: Kerio Personal Firewall 2.1.5.


I also use Kerio 2.1.5 - as well as the WF (at least that way I only have
to
worry about outbound traffic!g)


Hi, Noel. Do you use Kerio and Windows Firewall at the same time? If
so, why? I don't think that it gives more protection than using just
Kerio, and Microsoft says that it can cause problems.

XP Service Pack2 has a Help and Support topic ("Why you should only
use one firewall") that says "Two firewalls turned on at the same time
can cause compatibility problems that result in some programs not
working correctly."

If you enable Windows Firewall and then install a recent firewall
program, like Kerio Personal Firewall 4, the Windows Security Center
automatically gives a warning message and points to that Help and
Support topic.
--
Best Wishes,
Steve Winograd, MS-MVP (Windows Networking)

Please post any reply as a follow-up message in the news group
for everyone to see. I'm sorry, but I don't answer questions
addressed directly to me in E-mail or news groups.

Microsoft Most Valuable Professional - Windows Networking
http://mvp.support.microsoft.com

Steve Winograd's Networking FAQ
http://www.bcmaven.com/networking/faq.htm



 




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