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Adding PCI cards to Windows Me machine
I have an ASUS A7V running Windows Millennium and would appreciate any help:
This board has 5 PCI slots. plus Nvidia video adapter in AGP video slot. In BIOS: - I have PnP O/S configured as Yes - No Serial ports activated - Only 1 IDE channel activated - USB activated - USB mouse connected I have 4 cards: SBPCI16 Dlink 510 wireless Pinnacle Firewire Lava PCI Parallel (LPT2) The board manual says: Slot 1 shares IRQ with AGP Slot 2 shares IRQ with on board ATA100 (which is used) Slot 3 has it's own IRQ Slot 4/5 share another IRQ with each other and USB controller I have tried various arrangements that Windows often says are working, but they are not really because of the shared IRQs causing slowdowns or malfunctions. For example, if the Dlink is in Slot 5 and I add the Lava in slot 4, the internet connection becomes so slow it is not useable. Right now, I have the SB card in Slot 1 and it seems happy to share with the AGP card. The Dlink seems to want it's own IRQ in order to work properly. It is currently in slot 3. The Firewire also seems to prefer it's own IRQ. I have had it sharing with the Lava card, and Windows reports all is well, but it intermittently does not find the AV device (Video Camera). Firewire seems to like minimum interference from other devices. Not presently installed. I use the Lava card to connect to a Canon FB630P scanner (parallel). It has a pass through connector on the back, but I believe that the printer does not work properly when connected, especially since I use it as a copier - scan/print at same time. Lava not presently installed. Nothing seems to want to share with the ATA100 controller but I have not fully tested this. Is there any chance I could get all these card working together? Prior to the wireless network card, they did work for years with a wired NIC - not sure why wireless makes a difference, but it does seem to! Would Windows 2k Pro (which I have) or XP make a difference? Are there any adapters that would allow me to connect parallel scanner to say serial or USB or firewire ports? Any advice welcomed! Graham |
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Are there any adapters that would allow me to connect parallel scanner to
say serial or USB or firewire ports? Belkin did produce a "Printer Adapter" - for 'Connecting Parallel Printers Through USB' - Belkin Part # F5U002. Don't know if they are still available, but try Google. N.B. "Certain features of multifunction printers will not work with this product. Not compatible with scanners or Zip drives" Mart "George" wrote in message ... I have an ASUS A7V running Windows Millennium and would appreciate any help: This board has 5 PCI slots. plus Nvidia video adapter in AGP video slot. In BIOS: - I have PnP O/S configured as Yes - No Serial ports activated - Only 1 IDE channel activated - USB activated - USB mouse connected I have 4 cards: SBPCI16 Dlink 510 wireless Pinnacle Firewire Lava PCI Parallel (LPT2) The board manual says: Slot 1 shares IRQ with AGP Slot 2 shares IRQ with on board ATA100 (which is used) Slot 3 has it's own IRQ Slot 4/5 share another IRQ with each other and USB controller I have tried various arrangements that Windows often says are working, but they are not really because of the shared IRQs causing slowdowns or malfunctions. For example, if the Dlink is in Slot 5 and I add the Lava in slot 4, the internet connection becomes so slow it is not useable. Right now, I have the SB card in Slot 1 and it seems happy to share with the AGP card. The Dlink seems to want it's own IRQ in order to work properly. It is currently in slot 3. The Firewire also seems to prefer it's own IRQ. I have had it sharing with the Lava card, and Windows reports all is well, but it intermittently does not find the AV device (Video Camera). Firewire seems to like minimum interference from other devices. Not presently installed. I use the Lava card to connect to a Canon FB630P scanner (parallel). It has a pass through connector on the back, but I believe that the printer does not work properly when connected, especially since I use it as a copier - scan/print at same time. Lava not presently installed. Nothing seems to want to share with the ATA100 controller but I have not fully tested this. Is there any chance I could get all these card working together? Prior to the wireless network card, they did work for years with a wired NIC - not sure why wireless makes a difference, but it does seem to! Would Windows 2k Pro (which I have) or XP make a difference? Are there any adapters that would allow me to connect parallel scanner to say serial or USB or firewire ports? Any advice welcomed! Graham |
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"Mart" wrote in message ... Are there any adapters that would allow me to connect parallel scanner to say serial or USB or firewire ports? Belkin did produce a "Printer Adapter" - for 'Connecting Parallel Printers Through USB' - Belkin Part # F5U002. Don't know if they are still available, but try Google. N.B. "Certain features of multifunction printers will not work with this product. Not compatible with scanners or Zip drives" Mart Thanks! Last paragraph rules the adapter out for use with my scanner - May work with printer though. Still trying to get Me to work properly with Asus A7V. Anyone know how to run without acpi? I would like to go back to a standard AT configuration. |
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Can't really help you further except to suggest you consider migrating to
more USB devices - modem, WiFi, etc., and fit a Combo PCI -USB 2.0/Firewire card e.g. http://www.scan.co.uk/Products/Produ...roductID=76675 (There used to be a picture there once g) May not be a 'short-term' solution, but could give you future flexibility. Certainly taken the hassle out of 'IRQ worries' with my box. Mart "George" wrote in message ... "Mart" wrote in message ... Are there any adapters that would allow me to connect parallel scanner to say serial or USB or firewire ports? Belkin did produce a "Printer Adapter" - for 'Connecting Parallel Printers Through USB' - Belkin Part # F5U002. Don't know if they are still available, but try Google. N.B. "Certain features of multifunction printers will not work with this product. Not compatible with scanners or Zip drives" Mart Thanks! Last paragraph rules the adapter out for use with my scanner - May work with printer though. Still trying to get Me to work properly with Asus A7V. Anyone know how to run without acpi? I would like to go back to a standard AT configuration. |
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Thanks for the idea Mart. Had a look at the card - Presumably it would also
require one or two IRQs? My computer has 7 USB 1.1 ports. I have used them for mouse and connection to iPaq, but have now disabled USB to reduce IRQ problems. If my printer, scanner and Wifi were replaced with USB, all I would be left with would be the Firewire and the Sound card. Because there is only one unshared slot, one would still have to share with onboard USB. May work OK. Problem is that many new USB devices seem to require 2.0. I think I will have to just do without scanner or Firewire (I can run these on old laptop) until next year when I will probably get new Vista based machine - Hopefully MS have done enough testing this time to ensure minimal problems after release? Otherwise, maybe its time for a Mac! "Mart" wrote in message ... Can't really help you further except to suggest you consider migrating to more USB devices - modem, WiFi, etc., and fit a Combo PCI -USB 2.0/Firewire card e.g. http://www.scan.co.uk/Products/Produ...roductID=76675 (There used to be a picture there once g) May not be a 'short-term' solution, but could give you future flexibility. Certainly taken the hassle out of 'IRQ worries' with my box. Mart "George" wrote in message ... "Mart" wrote in message ... Are there any adapters that would allow me to connect parallel scanner to say serial or USB or firewire ports? Belkin did produce a "Printer Adapter" - for 'Connecting Parallel Printers Through USB' - Belkin Part # F5U002. Don't know if they are still available, but try Google. N.B. "Certain features of multifunction printers will not work with this product. Not compatible with scanners or Zip drives" Mart Thanks! Last paragraph rules the adapter out for use with my scanner - May work with printer though. Still trying to get Me to work properly with Asus A7V. Anyone know how to run without acpi? I would like to go back to a standard AT configuration. |
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George, although I understand your concern for IRQ issues, I wonder if they
are the cause for ALL your "slowdowns or malfunctions". I've never really suffered IRQ issues since the days of pratting around with non-pnp modems in 95/98 g Most of my IRQ's (well, 9 thru' 15) share, anyway. It might just be worth looking for other 'resource' issues. Try using WinTop, part of the old MS Kernel Toys, to determine running processes (and cpu usage). It works fine on WinMe and can be download it from :- http://www.dewassoc.com/support/useful/wintop.htm Good luck Mart "George" wrote in message ... Thanks for the idea Mart. Had a look at the card - Presumably it would also require one or two IRQs? My computer has 7 USB 1.1 ports. I have used them for mouse and connection to iPaq, but have now disabled USB to reduce IRQ problems. If my printer, scanner and Wifi were replaced with USB, all I would be left with would be the Firewire and the Sound card. Because there is only one unshared slot, one would still have to share with onboard USB. May work OK. Problem is that many new USB devices seem to require 2.0. I think I will have to just do without scanner or Firewire (I can run these on old laptop) until next year when I will probably get new Vista based machine - Hopefully MS have done enough testing this time to ensure minimal problems after release? Otherwise, maybe its time for a Mac! "Mart" wrote in message ... Can't really help you further except to suggest you consider migrating to more USB devices - modem, WiFi, etc., and fit a Combo PCI -USB 2.0/Firewire card e.g. http://www.scan.co.uk/Products/Produ...roductID=76675 (There used to be a picture there once g) May not be a 'short-term' solution, but could give you future flexibility. Certainly taken the hassle out of 'IRQ worries' with my box. Mart "George" wrote in message ... "Mart" wrote in message ... Are there any adapters that would allow me to connect parallel scanner to say serial or USB or firewire ports? Belkin did produce a "Printer Adapter" - for 'Connecting Parallel Printers Through USB' - Belkin Part # F5U002. Don't know if they are still available, but try Google. N.B. "Certain features of multifunction printers will not work with this product. Not compatible with scanners or Zip drives" Mart Thanks! Last paragraph rules the adapter out for use with my scanner - May work with printer though. Still trying to get Me to work properly with Asus A7V. Anyone know how to run without acpi? I would like to go back to a standard AT configuration. |
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BTW - George also wrote :-
Because there is only one unshared slot, one would still have to share with onboard USB My PCI - USB 2.0/Firewire combo co-exists and shares IRQ9 along with my wireless LAN PCI card without any conflict or perceptible degradation. .. Problem is that many new USB devices seem to require 2.0. A sign of the times - and no bad thing as far as I am concerned. The difference over USB 1.x can be almost 'spectacular' Mart snipped |
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"Mart" wrote George, although I understand your concern for IRQ issues, I wonder if they are the cause for ALL your "slowdowns or malfunctions". I've never really suffered IRQ issues since the days of pratting around with non-pnp modems in 95/98 g Most of my IRQ's (well, 9 thru' 15) share, anyway. It might just be worth looking for other 'resource' issues. Try using WinTop, part of the old MS Kernel Toys, to determine running processes (and cpu usage). It works fine on WinMe and can be download it from :- http://www.dewassoc.com/support/useful/wintop.htm I do have some other utilities that may do that, but WILL have a look at that link. What I have done (and it has taken a lot of time!), is: - Remove all cards - Down load and install later versions of BIOS, VIA Drivers and ATA100 drivers - Clear out all double or unneeded entries in Device manager (from Safe Mode in WinMe) - Disable USB in BIOS and used PS2 mouse - Do same or similar for W2K Pro which I am able to switch to within BIOS - Add cards back starting with Dlink wireless NIC in slot 3 (cleanest slot and Internet speed is priority), then SB in slot 4 making sure latest drivers are installed (Installed for W2K and WinMe) I then added firewire card in slot 5 and it seemed to work fine. This gave me a clean working system with good speed. Interesting comparison of Me vs W2K - W2K puts everything under IRQ 9, but WinMe with same BIOS settings sticks to slot sharing as dictated by BIOS (same IRQ for everything on slots 4&5). I then reactivated USB in BIOS and replaced PS2 with USB mouse. Now USB, SB and Firewire are all sharing IRQ. System is working and , as before, no conflicts reported, but I suspect that SB and Firewire will not work 100% in WinMe but likely better in W2K. But, I can always deactivate USB and go back to PS2 mouse. I had another look at my printer/scanner combination and after some messing around found that if I set BIOS to Normal instead of ECP for parallel port, scanner and printer would coexist (daisychain) on the on-board parallel port. This meant I could eliminate the Lava LP2 card! So I think I am there! But because W2K "looks" more solid, I am thinking about using it and abandoning Me. I made a full copy of my WinMe boot drive and then tried installing Win2K over it, so as not to have to reinstall all my software. But, it reports it cannot do this because something is missing (I forget exact words, but it meant Win95 upgrade or something like that). So my next challenge, is how to install W2K over WinMe which itself results from a series of upgrades going back to Win 3.1!! (Win3.1-WFW-W95-W98-W98SE-WinMe). W2K Pro is not an upgrade. I WILL look locally for a combo USB/Firewire card if I need USB 2.0 for anything. Thanks for all your input! |
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George wrote :-
WinMe which itself results from a series of upgrades going back to Win 3.1!! (Win3.1-WFW-W95-W98-W98SE-WinMe). Assuming an MS Retail Upgrade CD then you can directly 'clean-install' WinMe. You will however need proof of a previous product - e.g. Win95/98/SE CD or even the Win 3.1x floppies. Just pop them in the A: drive (or CD drive) when requested. I WILL look locally for a combo USB/Firewire card if I need USB 2.0 for anything. You will George, - you will g Good luck Mart "George" wrote in message ... "Mart" wrote George, although I understand your concern for IRQ issues, I wonder if they are the cause for ALL your "slowdowns or malfunctions". I've never really suffered IRQ issues since the days of pratting around with non-pnp modems in 95/98 g Most of my IRQ's (well, 9 thru' 15) share, anyway. It might just be worth looking for other 'resource' issues. Try using WinTop, part of the old MS Kernel Toys, to determine running processes (and cpu usage). It works fine on WinMe and can be download it from :- http://www.dewassoc.com/support/useful/wintop.htm I do have some other utilities that may do that, but WILL have a look at that link. What I have done (and it has taken a lot of time!), is: - Remove all cards - Down load and install later versions of BIOS, VIA Drivers and ATA100 drivers - Clear out all double or unneeded entries in Device manager (from Safe Mode in WinMe) - Disable USB in BIOS and used PS2 mouse - Do same or similar for W2K Pro which I am able to switch to within BIOS - Add cards back starting with Dlink wireless NIC in slot 3 (cleanest slot and Internet speed is priority), then SB in slot 4 making sure latest drivers are installed (Installed for W2K and WinMe) I then added firewire card in slot 5 and it seemed to work fine. This gave me a clean working system with good speed. Interesting comparison of Me vs W2K - W2K puts everything under IRQ 9, but WinMe with same BIOS settings sticks to slot sharing as dictated by BIOS (same IRQ for everything on slots 4&5). I then reactivated USB in BIOS and replaced PS2 with USB mouse. Now USB, SB and Firewire are all sharing IRQ. System is working and , as before, no conflicts reported, but I suspect that SB and Firewire will not work 100% in WinMe but likely better in W2K. But, I can always deactivate USB and go back to PS2 mouse. I had another look at my printer/scanner combination and after some messing around found that if I set BIOS to Normal instead of ECP for parallel port, scanner and printer would coexist (daisychain) on the on-board parallel port. This meant I could eliminate the Lava LP2 card! So I think I am there! But because W2K "looks" more solid, I am thinking about using it and abandoning Me. I made a full copy of my WinMe boot drive and then tried installing Win2K over it, so as not to have to reinstall all my software. But, it reports it cannot do this because something is missing (I forget exact words, but it meant Win95 upgrade or something like that). So my next challenge, is how to install W2K over WinMe which itself results from a series of upgrades going back to Win 3.1!! (Win3.1-WFW-W95-W98-W98SE-WinMe). W2K Pro is not an upgrade. I WILL look locally for a combo USB/Firewire card if I need USB 2.0 for anything. Thanks for all your input! |
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"Mart" wrote Assuming an MS Retail Upgrade CD then you can directly 'clean-install' WinMe. You will however need proof of a previous product - e.g. Win95/98/SE CD or even the Win 3.1x floppies. Just pop them in the A: drive (or CD drive) when requested. Not sure if you understood, but I was asking about installing W2K Pro (Full version) over WinMe so as to not have to reinstall everything. But it seems that this is a bad idea! I am going to run them side by side and hopefully gradually add software to W2K until I no longer need WinMe. With intense testing, I found that my new slot set up failed But, this was only when I had USB activated. I turned it off and reverted to a PS2 mouse and all seems well. Seems that USB, SB2 and Firewire can't get along on one IRQ in WinMe. I have also moved the SB2 to slot 3 and the NIC to Slot 4. GM |
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