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KernelEx? (with full info of what did not work)
The available list for the Anapa is:
VBE miniport ---choose this one VBE miniport - Standard Graphics Adaptor (VGA) ??? VBE miniport - Standard PCI Graphics Adaptor ??? -- or this? VBE miniport - Standard PCI Graphics Adaptor (VGA) ??? VBE miniport - Standard PCI Graphics Adaptor (XGA) 1024x768 VBE miniport - SVGA 800x600 VBE miniport - VGA 640x480 It is the SVGA option i use now. So, what do you recommend? I haven't used it myself, but what I understand of it you should use the first one that only say VBE miniport. I don't understand the other ones, since talking VESA there should only be one (except for possibly VGA and SVGA that are there if you temporarly want to communicate the old standard-ways before vesa)? On the other hand, he mentioned at the pages something about if one doesn't work - try the next, so perhaps they are there for cards that need special treatment. hmm... if you look in the vbemp.inf file there is these lines: %AnaPa.DeviceDesc% = Driver.Install, NOPNP %AnaPa.DeviceDesc%%AnaPa.DeviceDesc1% = Driver.Install, PCI\CC_0300 %AnaPa.DeviceDesc%%AnaPa.DeviceDesc2% = Driver.Install, PCI\CC_0301 %AnaPa.DeviceDesc%%AnaPa.DeviceDesc3% = Driver.Install, PCI\CC_0380 %AnaPa.DeviceDesc%%AnaPa.DeviceDesc4% = Driver.Install, *PNP0900 %AnaPa.DeviceDesc%%AnaPa.DeviceDesc5% = Driver.Install, *PNP0917 %AnaPa.DeviceDesc%%AnaPa.DeviceDesc6% = Driver.Install, NOPNP so it seems to be if the card is plug-and-play or not? AnaPa.DeviceDesc = "VBE Miniport" -----not PnP? AnaPa.DeviceDesc1 = " - Standard PCI Graphics Adapter (VGA)" AnaPa.DeviceDesc2 = " - Standard PCI Graphics Adapter (XGA)" AnaPa.DeviceDesc3 = " - Standard PCI Graphics Adapter" AnaPa.DeviceDesc4 = " - Standard Graphics Adapter (VGA)" AnaPa.DeviceDesc5 = " - VGA" AnaPa.DeviceDesc6 = " - SVGA" Somehow I get a feeling that you should not have got that list at all during install, windows should have selected the correct one automaticly (and don't select "show list" but keep it at "search after") |
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selecting which "card" in bearwindows driver
It is the SVGA option i use now.
hmmm... in the screenshot http://bearwindows.boot-land.net/w98-1.png they seems to have selected this: VBE miniport - Standard PCI Graphics Adaptor (VGA) and that seems to work fine in 1024x768 truecolor so hehe... don't ask me, I will probably guess wrong :-) If neither of them work when you try them and not the old 'manual' version with nvidia either, then you better ask the programmer. check the 'Driver troubleshooting' section at the webpage too then |
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selecting which "card" in bearwindows driver
It is the SVGA option i use now.
hmmm... in the screenshot http://bearwindows.boot-land.net/w98-1.png they seems to have selected this: VBE miniport - Standard PCI Graphics Adaptor (VGA) and that seems to work fine in 1024x768 truecolor so hehe... don't ask me, I will probably guess wrong :-) If neither of them work when you try them and not the old 'manual' version with nvidia either, then you better ask the programmer. check the 'Driver troubleshooting' section at the webpage too then |
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KernelEx? (with full info of what did not work)
MEB wrote:
Try using Dependency Walker [2.0 or higher] and use the "profile" option while attempting the installation from within Dependency Walker. Check the help supplied with the program for more information.. For profiling to work, the module you open in Dependency Walker has to be an executable file. Otherwise, you can click on [open] the various files within the target [what you want to check] and it will attempt to resolve the dependencies using the present system files. *IF* these are drivers related to the motherboard [or other devices] and designed for 2000/XP/VISTA, you will not get them to work with 9X by using the mod. These are designed for HAL and other aspects of the NT environment. The kernel mods are designed to allow some *applications* to work in the 9X environment. Dependency Walker is awesome! Now all i have to do is find the time to impliment a "special" patch that i have in mind that should fix a lot of problems. |
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KernelEx? (with full info of what did not work)
MEB wrote:
Try using Dependency Walker [2.0 or higher] and use the "profile" option while attempting the installation from within Dependency Walker. Check the help supplied with the program for more information.. For profiling to work, the module you open in Dependency Walker has to be an executable file. Otherwise, you can click on [open] the various files within the target [what you want to check] and it will attempt to resolve the dependencies using the present system files. *IF* these are drivers related to the motherboard [or other devices] and designed for 2000/XP/VISTA, you will not get them to work with 9X by using the mod. These are designed for HAL and other aspects of the NT environment. The kernel mods are designed to allow some *applications* to work in the 9X environment. Dependency Walker is awesome! Now all i have to do is find the time to impliment a "special" patch that i have in mind that should fix a lot of problems. |
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KernelEx? (with full info of what did not work)
teebo wrote:
The available list for the Anapa is: VBE miniport ---choose this one VBE miniport - Standard Graphics Adaptor (VGA) ??? VBE miniport - Standard PCI Graphics Adaptor ??? -- or this? VBE miniport - Standard PCI Graphics Adaptor (VGA) ??? VBE miniport - Standard PCI Graphics Adaptor (XGA) 1024x768 VBE miniport - SVGA 800x600 VBE miniport - VGA 640x480 It is the SVGA option i use now. So, what do you recommend? I haven't used it myself, but what I understand of it you should use the first one that only say VBE miniport. I don't understand the other ones, since talking VESA there should only be one (except for possibly VGA and SVGA that are there if you temporarly want to communicate the old standard-ways before vesa)? On the other hand, he mentioned at the pages something about if one doesn't work - try the next, so perhaps they are there for cards that need special treatment. hmm... if you look in the vbemp.inf file there is these lines: %AnaPa.DeviceDesc% = Driver.Install, NOPNP %AnaPa.DeviceDesc%%AnaPa.DeviceDesc1% = Driver.Install, PCI\CC_0300 %AnaPa.DeviceDesc%%AnaPa.DeviceDesc2% = Driver.Install, PCI\CC_0301 %AnaPa.DeviceDesc%%AnaPa.DeviceDesc3% = Driver.Install, PCI\CC_0380 %AnaPa.DeviceDesc%%AnaPa.DeviceDesc4% = Driver.Install, *PNP0900 %AnaPa.DeviceDesc%%AnaPa.DeviceDesc5% = Driver.Install, *PNP0917 %AnaPa.DeviceDesc%%AnaPa.DeviceDesc6% = Driver.Install, NOPNP so it seems to be if the card is plug-and-play or not? AnaPa.DeviceDesc = "VBE Miniport" -----not PnP? AnaPa.DeviceDesc1 = " - Standard PCI Graphics Adapter (VGA)" AnaPa.DeviceDesc2 = " - Standard PCI Graphics Adapter (XGA)" AnaPa.DeviceDesc3 = " - Standard PCI Graphics Adapter" AnaPa.DeviceDesc4 = " - Standard Graphics Adapter (VGA)" AnaPa.DeviceDesc5 = " - VGA" AnaPa.DeviceDesc6 = " - SVGA" Somehow I get a feeling that you should not have got that list at all during install, windows should have selected the correct one automaticly (and don't select "show list" but keep it at "search after") 1) The BAERstuff was exactly what i had (Anapa). 2) Oh yes, WinDoz did select what it "thought" was the correct one - the VGA driver with only 16 colors. So i had to go into the list and select the SVGA driver. 3) Video card is supposedly PnP but since two "motherboard resources" etc are not satisfied, it is a wonder the card works at all. Will try the "plain" (not PnP) driver. |
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KernelEx? (with full info of what did not work)
teebo wrote:
The available list for the Anapa is: VBE miniport ---choose this one VBE miniport - Standard Graphics Adaptor (VGA) ??? VBE miniport - Standard PCI Graphics Adaptor ??? -- or this? VBE miniport - Standard PCI Graphics Adaptor (VGA) ??? VBE miniport - Standard PCI Graphics Adaptor (XGA) 1024x768 VBE miniport - SVGA 800x600 VBE miniport - VGA 640x480 It is the SVGA option i use now. So, what do you recommend? I haven't used it myself, but what I understand of it you should use the first one that only say VBE miniport. I don't understand the other ones, since talking VESA there should only be one (except for possibly VGA and SVGA that are there if you temporarly want to communicate the old standard-ways before vesa)? On the other hand, he mentioned at the pages something about if one doesn't work - try the next, so perhaps they are there for cards that need special treatment. hmm... if you look in the vbemp.inf file there is these lines: %AnaPa.DeviceDesc% = Driver.Install, NOPNP %AnaPa.DeviceDesc%%AnaPa.DeviceDesc1% = Driver.Install, PCI\CC_0300 %AnaPa.DeviceDesc%%AnaPa.DeviceDesc2% = Driver.Install, PCI\CC_0301 %AnaPa.DeviceDesc%%AnaPa.DeviceDesc3% = Driver.Install, PCI\CC_0380 %AnaPa.DeviceDesc%%AnaPa.DeviceDesc4% = Driver.Install, *PNP0900 %AnaPa.DeviceDesc%%AnaPa.DeviceDesc5% = Driver.Install, *PNP0917 %AnaPa.DeviceDesc%%AnaPa.DeviceDesc6% = Driver.Install, NOPNP so it seems to be if the card is plug-and-play or not? AnaPa.DeviceDesc = "VBE Miniport" -----not PnP? AnaPa.DeviceDesc1 = " - Standard PCI Graphics Adapter (VGA)" AnaPa.DeviceDesc2 = " - Standard PCI Graphics Adapter (XGA)" AnaPa.DeviceDesc3 = " - Standard PCI Graphics Adapter" AnaPa.DeviceDesc4 = " - Standard Graphics Adapter (VGA)" AnaPa.DeviceDesc5 = " - VGA" AnaPa.DeviceDesc6 = " - SVGA" Somehow I get a feeling that you should not have got that list at all during install, windows should have selected the correct one automaticly (and don't select "show list" but keep it at "search after") 1) The BAERstuff was exactly what i had (Anapa). 2) Oh yes, WinDoz did select what it "thought" was the correct one - the VGA driver with only 16 colors. So i had to go into the list and select the SVGA driver. 3) Video card is supposedly PnP but since two "motherboard resources" etc are not satisfied, it is a wonder the card works at all. Will try the "plain" (not PnP) driver. |
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selecting which "card" in bearwindows driver
teebo wrote:
It is the SVGA option i use now. hmmm... in the screenshot http://bearwindows.boot-land.net/w98-1.png they seems to have selected this: VBE miniport - Standard PCI Graphics Adaptor (VGA) and that seems to work fine in 1024x768 truecolor so hehe... don't ask me, I will probably guess wrong :-) If neither of them work when you try them and not the old 'manual' version with nvidia either, then you better ask the programmer. check the 'Driver troubleshooting' section at the webpage too then I tried the "plain" (no PnP) driver and picked hires 16 bit (did not have guts for hivid 24 bit) and.... it works! Thanks! |
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selecting which "card" in bearwindows driver
teebo wrote:
It is the SVGA option i use now. hmmm... in the screenshot http://bearwindows.boot-land.net/w98-1.png they seems to have selected this: VBE miniport - Standard PCI Graphics Adaptor (VGA) and that seems to work fine in 1024x768 truecolor so hehe... don't ask me, I will probably guess wrong :-) If neither of them work when you try them and not the old 'manual' version with nvidia either, then you better ask the programmer. check the 'Driver troubleshooting' section at the webpage too then I tried the "plain" (no PnP) driver and picked hires 16 bit (did not have guts for hivid 24 bit) and.... it works! Thanks! |
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KernelEx? (with full info of what did not work)
On 06/18/2009 04:51 AM, Robert Baer wrote:
MEB wrote: Try using Dependency Walker [2.0 or higher] and use the "profile" option while attempting the installation from within Dependency Walker. Check the help supplied with the program for more information.. For profiling to work, the module you open in Dependency Walker has to be an executable file. Otherwise, you can click on [open] the various files within the target [what you want to check] and it will attempt to resolve the dependencies using the present system files. *IF* these are drivers related to the motherboard [or other devices] and designed for 2000/XP/VISTA, you will not get them to work with 9X by using the mod. These are designed for HAL and other aspects of the NT environment. The kernel mods are designed to allow some *applications* to work in the 9X environment. Dependency Walker is awesome! Now all i have to do is find the time to impliment a "special" patch that i have in mind that should fix a lot of problems. Good, glad you picked up on it, thought you were going to ignore the recommendation.. Wonderful graphic debug style program for the 9X [32bit] environment, I used it during many years of testing and code manipulation... simple and quick, yet elegant and informative, and requires no real coding experience so anyone can become a tester, though it is certainly useful even to coders/programmers... great for bug reports/files and other aspects. Keep us informed, we are always interested in efforts to support 9X. I think the prior issues in the group pertaining to 9X modifications ended, for the most part, with the end of support/end of life and certainly as its now three years later, so if you know of other reliable coders/programmers working on keeping it viable or fixing issues or creating programs/applications, invite them to the forum. You can see the number of interested parties [e.g., MVPs and long term posters, and resultant mirrored materials]. Moreover, I seriously doubt there can be much argument to be leveraged for NOT posting suggestions, modifications [links], and/with testing and results, within the forum, even by the MVPs; perhaps they might even help with their cumulative knowledge. In fact that might spark others to also work on/within the now stable 9X coding environment. -- ~ -- MEB http://peoplescounsel.org/ref/windows-main.htm Windows Diagnostics, Security, Networking http://peoplescounsel.org The *REAL WORLD* of Law, Justice, and Government _______ |
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