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KernelEx? (with full info of what did not work)
Robert Baer wrote:
teebo wrote: it is running on and it appears that your application uses something that you haven't patched. You need to trace the execution of the installer for that app and find out what it is testing, What program shall one run to do the trace? * Good question; best i can do is use DOS DEBUG for now.. I don't think dos debug whould do, shouldn't it be something more Windowsy? Still..the ASUS M2N-MX SE Plus CD bitches saying it dislikes WIN_4.11 as an OS; cannot find that string *anywhere*. I am trying to use the (not-so-nice) ASUS installer. I'm still not sure what application you want to run... But as long as you are not trying to install motherboard-drivers that is made for another os than win98/se/me, wich of course will never work - being more a part of the os than a application, I hope you find the call to the missing API etc your application need How do you get a GeForce6100/nForce430 chipset working with win98 in the first place? I used VBE Miniport by Anapa Corp; the SVGA driver which gives 800x600 16 colors; the best that i could do (better than a kick in the head). Sorry; make that read 256 colors... |
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KernelEx? (with full info of what did not work)
teebo wrote:
How do you get a GeForce6100/nForce430 chipset working with win98 in the first place? I used VBE Miniport by Anapa Corp; the SVGA driver which gives 800x600 16 colors oh, even without graphic drivers for you graphic card you don't have to stay with only 16 colors If you don't find a driver or the tweaked NVidia 82.69 drivers don't work for you, it should be possible to use 24bit color with Bearwindows universal VESA-drivers. There is no 3D-support and it say something about need to update bios for full resolution with nvidia graphic cards(?) but it should at least give you truecolor. http://www.geocities.com/bearwindows/vbe9x.htm or http://bearwindows.boot-land.net/vbe9x.htm or http://www.navozhdeniye.narod.ru/vbe9x.htm (I assume the geocities site will dissapear when yahoo is closing geocities later this year) Confusing as all heck. First goo-gull hit: "Universal VESA/VBE Video Display Driver (for Windows 9x x86 Architecture)" Second hit: "BEARWINDOWS Vault - This page is containing Microsoft(r) Windows™ ... Universal VESA/VBE Video Display Driver for Windows NT-family operating systems [?] ..." Other hits state it is for Win2k and up. The problem i see without trying (and i will try it), is that there is no (standard?) VESA mode that gives anything better than 800x600 256 colors. Another is that some of the goo-gull hits name it as VBEEMP.SYS which AFAIK can be only loaded via config.sys which Win98SE etc ignore... |
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KernelEx? (with full info of what did not work)
teebo wrote:
How do you get a GeForce6100/nForce430 chipset working with win98 in the first place? I used VBE Miniport by Anapa Corp; the SVGA driver which gives 800x600 16 colors oh, even without graphic drivers for you graphic card you don't have to stay with only 16 colors If you don't find a driver or the tweaked NVidia 82.69 drivers don't work for you, it should be possible to use 24bit color with Bearwindows universal VESA-drivers. There is no 3D-support and it say something about need to update bios for full resolution with nvidia graphic cards(?) but it should at least give you truecolor. http://www.geocities.com/bearwindows/vbe9x.htm or http://bearwindows.boot-land.net/vbe9x.htm or http://www.navozhdeniye.narod.ru/vbe9x.htm (I assume the geocities site will dissapear when yahoo is closing geocities later this year) Confusing as all heck. First goo-gull hit: "Universal VESA/VBE Video Display Driver (for Windows 9x x86 Architecture)" Second hit: "BEARWINDOWS Vault - This page is containing Microsoft(r) Windows™ ... Universal VESA/VBE Video Display Driver for Windows NT-family operating systems [?] ..." Other hits state it is for Win2k and up. The problem i see without trying (and i will try it), is that there is no (standard?) VESA mode that gives anything better than 800x600 256 colors. Another is that some of the goo-gull hits name it as VBEEMP.SYS which AFAIK can be only loaded via config.sys which Win98SE etc ignore... |
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KernelEx? (with full info of what did not work)
teebo wrote:
How do you get a GeForce6100/nForce430 chipset working with win98 in the first place? I used VBE Miniport by Anapa Corp; the SVGA driver which gives 800x600 16 colors oh, even without graphic drivers for you graphic card you don't have to stay with only 16 colors If you don't find a driver or the tweaked NVidia 82.69 drivers don't work for you, it should be possible to use 24bit color with Bearwindows universal VESA-drivers. There is no 3D-support and it say something about need to update bios for full resolution with nvidia graphic cards(?) but it should at least give you truecolor. http://www.geocities.com/bearwindows/vbe9x.htm or http://bearwindows.boot-land.net/vbe9x.htm or http://www.navozhdeniye.narod.ru/vbe9x.htm (I assume the geocities site will dissapear when yahoo is closing geocities later this year) I already have 081021.zip and am using it (as indicated). |
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teebo wrote:
How do you get a GeForce6100/nForce430 chipset working with win98 in the first place? I used VBE Miniport by Anapa Corp; the SVGA driver which gives 800x600 16 colors oh, even without graphic drivers for you graphic card you don't have to stay with only 16 colors If you don't find a driver or the tweaked NVidia 82.69 drivers don't work for you, it should be possible to use 24bit color with Bearwindows universal VESA-drivers. There is no 3D-support and it say something about need to update bios for full resolution with nvidia graphic cards(?) but it should at least give you truecolor. http://www.geocities.com/bearwindows/vbe9x.htm or http://bearwindows.boot-land.net/vbe9x.htm or http://www.navozhdeniye.narod.ru/vbe9x.htm (I assume the geocities site will dissapear when yahoo is closing geocities later this year) I already have 081021.zip and am using it (as indicated). |
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KernelEx? (with full info of what did not work)
teebo wrote:
How do you get a GeForce6100/nForce430 chipset working with win98 in the first place? I used VBE Miniport by Anapa Corp; the SVGA driver which gives 800x600 16 colors oh, even without graphic drivers for you graphic card you don't have to stay with only 16 colors If you don't find a driver or the tweaked NVidia 82.69 drivers don't work for you, it should be possible to use 24bit color with Bearwindows universal VESA-drivers. There is no 3D-support and it say something about need to update bios for full resolution with nvidia graphic cards(?) but it should at least give you truecolor. http://www.geocities.com/bearwindows/vbe9x.htm or http://bearwindows.boot-land.net/vbe9x.htm or http://www.navozhdeniye.narod.ru/vbe9x.htm (I assume the geocities site will dissapear when yahoo is closing geocities later this year) The available list for the Anapa is: VBE miniport VBE miniport - Standard Graphics Adaptor (VGA) VBE miniport - Standard PCI Graphics Adaptor VBE miniport - Standard PCI Graphics Adaptor (VGA) VBE miniport - Standard PCI Graphics Adaptor (XGA) VBE miniport - SVGA VBE miniport - VGA It is the SVGA option i use now. So, what do you recommend? |
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KernelEx? (with full info of what did not work)
teebo wrote:
How do you get a GeForce6100/nForce430 chipset working with win98 in the first place? I used VBE Miniport by Anapa Corp; the SVGA driver which gives 800x600 16 colors oh, even without graphic drivers for you graphic card you don't have to stay with only 16 colors If you don't find a driver or the tweaked NVidia 82.69 drivers don't work for you, it should be possible to use 24bit color with Bearwindows universal VESA-drivers. There is no 3D-support and it say something about need to update bios for full resolution with nvidia graphic cards(?) but it should at least give you truecolor. http://www.geocities.com/bearwindows/vbe9x.htm or http://bearwindows.boot-land.net/vbe9x.htm or http://www.navozhdeniye.narod.ru/vbe9x.htm (I assume the geocities site will dissapear when yahoo is closing geocities later this year) The available list for the Anapa is: VBE miniport VBE miniport - Standard Graphics Adaptor (VGA) VBE miniport - Standard PCI Graphics Adaptor VBE miniport - Standard PCI Graphics Adaptor (VGA) VBE miniport - Standard PCI Graphics Adaptor (XGA) VBE miniport - SVGA VBE miniport - VGA It is the SVGA option i use now. So, what do you recommend? |
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don't work for you, it should be possible to use 24bit color
with Bearwindows universal VESA-drivers.or http://bearwindows.boot-land.net/vbe9x.htm (I assume the geocities site will dissapear when yahoo is closing geocities Confusing as all heck. does that mean that you can't make bearwindows win98drivers to work? did you try both \VBE9x\UNI\ and \VBE9x\NV\ in vbemp9x.zip? First goo-gull hit: hehe that is a new name for google :-D "Universal VESA/VBE Video Display Driver (for Windows 9x x86 Architecture)" Second hit: "BEARWINDOWS Vault - This page is containing Microsoft(r) Windows™ ... Universal VESA/VBE Video Display Driver for Windows NT-family operating systems [?] ..." no no, you shall not use the NT-version of bearwindows. bearwindows.boot-land.net/vbe9x.htm is the win95/98/me-version just ignore the fact that the NT-version is newer, the 9x-version seems allso to be in development, the page was updated march 2009 The problem i see without trying (and i will try it), is that there is no (standard?) VESA mode that gives anything better than 800x600 256 colors. if you by 'standard' mean that different card puts their higher vesa resolutions at different id-numbers. But it doesn't matter, the driver just asks the card for a full list and then picks the right one from that. name it as VBEEMP.SYS which AFAIK can be only loaded via config.sys which Win98SE etc ignore... no I don't think win98se ignore that config.sys WinME do that, but not win98. but bearwindows graphic drivers isn't supposed to be loaded in config.sys. it is not a dos vesa driver that enhances the cards bios, it is a windows driver that can be used if the graphic card have vesa support allready built in. Just install it from controlpanel/display/settings/advanced/card/change/list/floppy I wonder if there are other nForce drivers for win98 that can be modified by a skilled binary hacker that is looking at a disassembling of win2000 drivers for nForce430... (I'm just dreaming) I think first thing you must do Robert, is to learn Assembler :-) |
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don't work for you, it should be possible to use 24bit color
with Bearwindows universal VESA-drivers.or http://bearwindows.boot-land.net/vbe9x.htm (I assume the geocities site will dissapear when yahoo is closing geocities Confusing as all heck. does that mean that you can't make bearwindows win98drivers to work? did you try both \VBE9x\UNI\ and \VBE9x\NV\ in vbemp9x.zip? First goo-gull hit: hehe that is a new name for google :-D "Universal VESA/VBE Video Display Driver (for Windows 9x x86 Architecture)" Second hit: "BEARWINDOWS Vault - This page is containing Microsoft(r) Windows™ ... Universal VESA/VBE Video Display Driver for Windows NT-family operating systems [?] ..." no no, you shall not use the NT-version of bearwindows. bearwindows.boot-land.net/vbe9x.htm is the win95/98/me-version just ignore the fact that the NT-version is newer, the 9x-version seems allso to be in development, the page was updated march 2009 The problem i see without trying (and i will try it), is that there is no (standard?) VESA mode that gives anything better than 800x600 256 colors. if you by 'standard' mean that different card puts their higher vesa resolutions at different id-numbers. But it doesn't matter, the driver just asks the card for a full list and then picks the right one from that. name it as VBEEMP.SYS which AFAIK can be only loaded via config.sys which Win98SE etc ignore... no I don't think win98se ignore that config.sys WinME do that, but not win98. but bearwindows graphic drivers isn't supposed to be loaded in config.sys. it is not a dos vesa driver that enhances the cards bios, it is a windows driver that can be used if the graphic card have vesa support allready built in. Just install it from controlpanel/display/settings/advanced/card/change/list/floppy I wonder if there are other nForce drivers for win98 that can be modified by a skilled binary hacker that is looking at a disassembling of win2000 drivers for nForce430... (I'm just dreaming) I think first thing you must do Robert, is to learn Assembler :-) |
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KernelEx? (with full info of what did not work)
The available list for the Anapa is:
VBE miniport ---choose this one VBE miniport - Standard Graphics Adaptor (VGA) ??? VBE miniport - Standard PCI Graphics Adaptor ??? -- or this? VBE miniport - Standard PCI Graphics Adaptor (VGA) ??? VBE miniport - Standard PCI Graphics Adaptor (XGA) 1024x768 VBE miniport - SVGA 800x600 VBE miniport - VGA 640x480 It is the SVGA option i use now. So, what do you recommend? I haven't used it myself, but what I understand of it you should use the first one that only say VBE miniport. I don't understand the other ones, since talking VESA there should only be one (except for possibly VGA and SVGA that are there if you temporarly want to communicate the old standard-ways before vesa)? On the other hand, he mentioned at the pages something about if one doesn't work - try the next, so perhaps they are there for cards that need special treatment. hmm... if you look in the vbemp.inf file there is these lines: %AnaPa.DeviceDesc% = Driver.Install, NOPNP %AnaPa.DeviceDesc%%AnaPa.DeviceDesc1% = Driver.Install, PCI\CC_0300 %AnaPa.DeviceDesc%%AnaPa.DeviceDesc2% = Driver.Install, PCI\CC_0301 %AnaPa.DeviceDesc%%AnaPa.DeviceDesc3% = Driver.Install, PCI\CC_0380 %AnaPa.DeviceDesc%%AnaPa.DeviceDesc4% = Driver.Install, *PNP0900 %AnaPa.DeviceDesc%%AnaPa.DeviceDesc5% = Driver.Install, *PNP0917 %AnaPa.DeviceDesc%%AnaPa.DeviceDesc6% = Driver.Install, NOPNP so it seems to be if the card is plug-and-play or not? AnaPa.DeviceDesc = "VBE Miniport" -----not PnP? AnaPa.DeviceDesc1 = " - Standard PCI Graphics Adapter (VGA)" AnaPa.DeviceDesc2 = " - Standard PCI Graphics Adapter (XGA)" AnaPa.DeviceDesc3 = " - Standard PCI Graphics Adapter" AnaPa.DeviceDesc4 = " - Standard Graphics Adapter (VGA)" AnaPa.DeviceDesc5 = " - VGA" AnaPa.DeviceDesc6 = " - SVGA" Somehow I get a feeling that you should not have got that list at all during install, windows should have selected the correct one automaticly (and don't select "show list" but keep it at "search after") |
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