KernelEx? (with full info of what did not work)

OK; KernelEx does not seem to be of benefit on a Win98SE machine
(yes, Unicows.dll installed and registered).
How can one test it?
* What i did:
Replaced [HKLM\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion]
* I had: Win98SE Win2K:
Version "Windows 98" nil
VersionNumber "4.10.2222" nil
ProductName Microsoft Windows 98 nil
* Now is:
Version "Windows XP"
VersionNumber "5.10.2600"
ProductName "Microsoft Windows XP"

Replaced [HKLM\Software\Microsoft\Windows NT\CurrentVersion]
* I had: Win98SE Win2K:
(Default) (value not set) CurrentVersion 5.0
ProductName Microsoft Windows 2000
* I now have:
(Default) ""
CurrentVersion "5.1"
ProductName "Microsoft Windows XP"
Version "Windows XP"

Installed Unicows.DLL and registered it
Installed KernelEX
Modified \Bootsec.DOS (to read MSWIN 5.1 and WIN XP)
Modified \MSDOS.SYS (to read MSWIN 5.1)
Modified \Windows\Winver.exe (to read 5.10.6200 and Windows XP in 2
places)
Modified \Windows\W98setup.bin (to read 5.10.6200 in 2 places)
Modified \Windows\Command.com
*Negative effect: MSDOS shell doesn't work

Even after all of that, sysinfo gives:
Microsoft Windows XP 4.10.2222 A
So do not know what else to fudge to fix the 4.10.2222...

Still..the ASUS M2N-MX SE Plus CD bitches saying it dislikes WIN_4.11
as an OS; cannot find that string *anywhere*.

So, what do i do to make it work?
Is there a way to test the above patch?

Robert Baer wrote in
net:

OK; KernelEx does not seem to be of benefit on a Win98SE
machine
(yes, Unicows.dll installed and registered).

SNIP


This is not an answer, just a comment.

About a month ago I dl'd ver 4 of KEx and read some stuff on the
page. It was created primarily to use FFox 3x with 98SE, and for
about 6-8 stupid games - the author says he makes it work with
what he wants to work. His fubar-given right. Some people /have/
reported is /may-does/ work with a few other applications, but
is not intended/patched to do so.

Since I use 98SE Lite, FFox 3 would not install since I have the
95 shell. I am not a gamer. Goodbye KEx.

Many people report success using it with normal 98SE, so I would
go back to pure 98SE and try reinstalling KEx. But seeing as how
little it does, personally, I would just make a dual-boot 98/XP
machine - the process has been covered here and elsewhere and is
extremely easy and trouble free. Frankly, I see no point
whatsoever in KEx - I /DID/ when I thought it made ALL XP apps
work under 98SE. But 1 questionable app (I maintain Opera is far
superior) and a few stupid games? WHAT is the point?

Use XP if you HAVE to and use 98 when you want to feel like a
thinking human being.

--
Lots of theoretical butchers are alleged and other bloody eyes
are suitable, but will Pam secure that?

Robert Baer wrote in
net:

OK; KernelEx does not seem to be of benefit on a Win98SE
machine
(yes, Unicows.dll installed and registered).

SNIP


This is not an answer, just a comment.

About a month ago I dl'd ver 4 of KEx and read some stuff on the
page. It was created primarily to use FFox 3x with 98SE, and for
about 6-8 stupid games - the author says he makes it work with
what he wants to work. His fubar-given right. Some people /have/
reported is /may-does/ work with a few other applications, but
is not intended/patched to do so.

Since I use 98SE Lite, FFox 3 would not install since I have the
95 shell. I am not a gamer. Goodbye KEx.

Many people report success using it with normal 98SE, so I would
go back to pure 98SE and try reinstalling KEx. But seeing as how
little it does, personally, I would just make a dual-boot 98/XP
machine - the process has been covered here and elsewhere and is
extremely easy and trouble free. Frankly, I see no point
whatsoever in KEx - I /DID/ when I thought it made ALL XP apps
work under 98SE. But 1 questionable app (I maintain Opera is far
superior) and a few stupid games? WHAT is the point?

Use XP if you HAVE to and use 98 when you want to feel like a
thinking human being.

--
Lots of theoretical butchers are alleged and other bloody eyes
are suitable, but will Pam secure that?

At least you're in the right group this time, Robert. Congrats. :-)

Robert Baer wrote:
OK; KernelEx does not seem to be of benefit on a Win98SE machine
(yes, Unicows.dll installed and registered).
How can one test it?
* What i did:
Replaced [HKLM\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion]
* I had: Win98SE Win2K:
Version "Windows 98" nil
VersionNumber "4.10.2222" nil
ProductName Microsoft Windows 98 nil
* Now is:
Version "Windows XP"
VersionNumber "5.10.2600"
ProductName "Microsoft Windows XP"

Replaced [HKLM\Software\Microsoft\Windows NT\CurrentVersion]
* I had: Win98SE Win2K:
(Default) (value not set) CurrentVersion 5.0
ProductName Microsoft Windows 2000
* I now have:
(Default) ""
CurrentVersion "5.1"
ProductName "Microsoft Windows XP"
Version "Windows XP"

Installed Unicows.DLL and registered it
Installed KernelEX
Modified \Bootsec.DOS (to read MSWIN 5.1 and WIN XP)
Modified \MSDOS.SYS (to read MSWIN 5.1)
Modified \Windows\Winver.exe (to read 5.10.6200 and Windows XP in 2
places)
Modified \Windows\W98setup.bin (to read 5.10.6200 in 2 places)
Modified \Windows\Command.com
*Negative effect: MSDOS shell doesn't work

Even after all of that, sysinfo gives:
Microsoft Windows XP 4.10.2222 A
So do not know what else to fudge to fix the 4.10.2222...

Still..the ASUS M2N-MX SE Plus CD bitches saying it dislikes WIN_4.11
as an OS; cannot find that string *anywhere*.

So, what do i do to make it work?
Is there a way to test the above patch?

At least you're in the right group this time, Robert. Congrats. :-)

Robert Baer wrote:
OK; KernelEx does not seem to be of benefit on a Win98SE machine
(yes, Unicows.dll installed and registered).
How can one test it?
* What i did:
Replaced [HKLM\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion]
* I had: Win98SE Win2K:
Version "Windows 98" nil
VersionNumber "4.10.2222" nil
ProductName Microsoft Windows 98 nil
* Now is:
Version "Windows XP"
VersionNumber "5.10.2600"
ProductName "Microsoft Windows XP"

Replaced [HKLM\Software\Microsoft\Windows NT\CurrentVersion]
* I had: Win98SE Win2K:
(Default) (value not set) CurrentVersion 5.0
ProductName Microsoft Windows 2000
* I now have:
(Default) ""
CurrentVersion "5.1"
ProductName "Microsoft Windows XP"
Version "Windows XP"

Installed Unicows.DLL and registered it
Installed KernelEX
Modified \Bootsec.DOS (to read MSWIN 5.1 and WIN XP)
Modified \MSDOS.SYS (to read MSWIN 5.1)
Modified \Windows\Winver.exe (to read 5.10.6200 and Windows XP in 2
places)
Modified \Windows\W98setup.bin (to read 5.10.6200 in 2 places)
Modified \Windows\Command.com
*Negative effect: MSDOS shell doesn't work

Even after all of that, sysinfo gives:
Microsoft Windows XP 4.10.2222 A
So do not know what else to fudge to fix the 4.10.2222...

Still..the ASUS M2N-MX SE Plus CD bitches saying it dislikes WIN_4.11
as an OS; cannot find that string *anywhere*.

So, what do i do to make it work?
Is there a way to test the above patch?

Addendum:
Please let us know if you get ANY WinXP programs to really work on your
Win98SE computer with this Kernel patch, Robert.

At least you're in the right group this time, Robert. Congrats. :-)

Robert Baer wrote:
OK; KernelEx does not seem to be of benefit on a Win98SE machine
(yes, Unicows.dll installed and registered).
How can one test it?
* What i did:
Replaced [HKLM\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion]
* I had: Win98SE Win2K:
Version "Windows 98" nil
VersionNumber "4.10.2222" nil
ProductName Microsoft Windows 98 nil
* Now is:
Version "Windows XP"
VersionNumber "5.10.2600"
ProductName "Microsoft Windows XP"

Replaced [HKLM\Software\Microsoft\Windows NT\CurrentVersion]
* I had: Win98SE Win2K:
(Default) (value not set) CurrentVersion 5.0
ProductName Microsoft Windows 2000
* I now have:
(Default) ""
CurrentVersion "5.1"
ProductName "Microsoft Windows XP"
Version "Windows XP"

Installed Unicows.DLL and registered it
Installed KernelEX
Modified \Bootsec.DOS (to read MSWIN 5.1 and WIN XP)
Modified \MSDOS.SYS (to read MSWIN 5.1)
Modified \Windows\Winver.exe (to read 5.10.6200 and Windows XP in 2
places)
Modified \Windows\W98setup.bin (to read 5.10.6200 in 2 places)
Modified \Windows\Command.com
*Negative effect: MSDOS shell doesn't work

Even after all of that, sysinfo gives:
Microsoft Windows XP 4.10.2222 A
So do not know what else to fudge to fix the 4.10.2222...

Still..the ASUS M2N-MX SE Plus CD bitches saying it dislikes WIN_4.11
as an OS; cannot find that string *anywhere*.

So, what do i do to make it work?
Is there a way to test the above patch?

Addendum:
Please let us know if you get ANY WinXP programs to really work on your
Win98SE computer with this Kernel patch, Robert.

At least you're in the right group this time, Robert. Congrats. :-)

Robert Baer wrote:
OK; KernelEx does not seem to be of benefit on a Win98SE machine
(yes, Unicows.dll installed and registered).
How can one test it?
* What i did:
Replaced [HKLM\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion]
* I had: Win98SE Win2K:
Version "Windows 98" nil
VersionNumber "4.10.2222" nil
ProductName Microsoft Windows 98 nil
* Now is:
Version "Windows XP"
VersionNumber "5.10.2600"
ProductName "Microsoft Windows XP"

Replaced [HKLM\Software\Microsoft\Windows NT\CurrentVersion]
* I had: Win98SE Win2K:
(Default) (value not set) CurrentVersion 5.0
ProductName Microsoft Windows 2000
* I now have:
(Default) ""
CurrentVersion "5.1"
ProductName "Microsoft Windows XP"
Version "Windows XP"

Installed Unicows.DLL and registered it
Installed KernelEX
Modified \Bootsec.DOS (to read MSWIN 5.1 and WIN XP)
Modified \MSDOS.SYS (to read MSWIN 5.1)
Modified \Windows\Winver.exe (to read 5.10.6200 and Windows XP in 2
places)
Modified \Windows\W98setup.bin (to read 5.10.6200 in 2 places)
Modified \Windows\Command.com
*Negative effect: MSDOS shell doesn't work

Even after all of that, sysinfo gives:
Microsoft Windows XP 4.10.2222 A
So do not know what else to fudge to fix the 4.10.2222...

Still..the ASUS M2N-MX SE Plus CD bitches saying it dislikes WIN_4.11
as an OS; cannot find that string *anywhere*.

So, what do i do to make it work?
Is there a way to test the above patch?

Because each application different. the only way you can test it is to try
the app and see what happens.

There are many different ways that an application can determine what version
it is running on and it appears that your application uses something that
you haven't patched. You need to trace the execution of the installer for
that app and find out what it is testing, or locate someone who has already
done that to find out what they discovered. The label that is reported
(WIN_4.11) might not exist in your system at all - it could be the
installer's representation of what it has deduced as your OS version, and it
might not give you any clues as to how it worked that out.
--
Jeff Richards
MS MVP (Windows - Shell/User)
"Robert Baer" wrote in message
net...
OK; KernelEx does not seem to be of benefit on a Win98SE machine (yes,
Unicows.dll installed and registered).
How can one test it?
* What i did:
Replaced [HKLM\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion]
* I had: Win98SE Win2K:
Version "Windows 98" nil
VersionNumber "4.10.2222" nil
ProductName Microsoft Windows 98 nil
* Now is:
Version "Windows XP"
VersionNumber "5.10.2600"
ProductName "Microsoft Windows XP"

Replaced [HKLM\Software\Microsoft\Windows NT\CurrentVersion]
* I had: Win98SE Win2K:
(Default) (value not set) CurrentVersion 5.0
ProductName Microsoft Windows 2000
* I now have:
(Default) ""
CurrentVersion "5.1"
ProductName "Microsoft Windows XP"
Version "Windows XP"

Installed Unicows.DLL and registered it
Installed KernelEX
Modified \Bootsec.DOS (to read MSWIN 5.1 and WIN XP)
Modified \MSDOS.SYS (to read MSWIN 5.1)
Modified \Windows\Winver.exe (to read 5.10.6200 and Windows XP in 2
places)
Modified \Windows\W98setup.bin (to read 5.10.6200 in 2 places)
Modified \Windows\Command.com
*Negative effect: MSDOS shell doesn't work

Even after all of that, sysinfo gives:
Microsoft Windows XP 4.10.2222 A
So do not know what else to fudge to fix the 4.10.2222...

Still..the ASUS M2N-MX SE Plus CD bitches saying it dislikes WIN_4.11
as an OS; cannot find that string *anywhere*.

So, what do i do to make it work?
Is there a way to test the above patch?

Because each application different. the only way you can test it is to try
the app and see what happens.

There are many different ways that an application can determine what version
it is running on and it appears that your application uses something that
you haven't patched. You need to trace the execution of the installer for
that app and find out what it is testing, or locate someone who has already
done that to find out what they discovered. The label that is reported
(WIN_4.11) might not exist in your system at all - it could be the
installer's representation of what it has deduced as your OS version, and it
might not give you any clues as to how it worked that out.
--
Jeff Richards
MS MVP (Windows - Shell/User)
"Robert Baer" wrote in message
net...
OK; KernelEx does not seem to be of benefit on a Win98SE machine (yes,
Unicows.dll installed and registered).
How can one test it?
* What i did:
Replaced [HKLM\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion]
* I had: Win98SE Win2K:
Version "Windows 98" nil
VersionNumber "4.10.2222" nil
ProductName Microsoft Windows 98 nil
* Now is:
Version "Windows XP"
VersionNumber "5.10.2600"
ProductName "Microsoft Windows XP"

Replaced [HKLM\Software\Microsoft\Windows NT\CurrentVersion]
* I had: Win98SE Win2K:
(Default) (value not set) CurrentVersion 5.0
ProductName Microsoft Windows 2000
* I now have:
(Default) ""
CurrentVersion "5.1"
ProductName "Microsoft Windows XP"
Version "Windows XP"

Installed Unicows.DLL and registered it
Installed KernelEX
Modified \Bootsec.DOS (to read MSWIN 5.1 and WIN XP)
Modified \MSDOS.SYS (to read MSWIN 5.1)
Modified \Windows\Winver.exe (to read 5.10.6200 and Windows XP in 2
places)
Modified \Windows\W98setup.bin (to read 5.10.6200 in 2 places)
Modified \Windows\Command.com
*Negative effect: MSDOS shell doesn't work

Even after all of that, sysinfo gives:
Microsoft Windows XP 4.10.2222 A
So do not know what else to fudge to fix the 4.10.2222...

Still..the ASUS M2N-MX SE Plus CD bitches saying it dislikes WIN_4.11
as an OS; cannot find that string *anywhere*.

So, what do i do to make it work?
Is there a way to test the above patch?

Hi!

There are many different ways that an application can determine what version
it is running on and it appears that your application uses something that
you haven't patched. You need to trace the execution of the installer for
that app and find out what it is testing,

What program shall one run to do the trace?


Still..the ASUS M2N-MX SE Plus CD bitches saying it dislikes WIN_4.11
as an OS; cannot find that string *anywhere*.

what application are you trying to run? is it some nice application
that asus is distributing together with that motherbard-driver-for-XP?