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  #1  
Old September 28th 04, 11:31 PM
Tony Sengsourya
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We have two 98 and one 98se boxes. Those 3 are in a work
group. The rest of our computers are in a domain.

None of the three 98 boxes can ping the dns server (but
can ping the gateway), but the 98se box can get on the
internet. The other two can't.

All 3 computer can access our network but not the two 98
boxes can't access the internet.

I've tried the ipconfig release/renew commands and still
no luck.

Please help.

  #2  
Old September 29th 04, 11:06 AM
Sandi - Microsoft MVP
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My understanding is that Win98 did not support ICS until SE was released.

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Tony Sengsourya wrote:
We have two 98 and one 98se boxes. Those 3 are in a work
group. The rest of our computers are in a domain.

None of the three 98 boxes can ping the dns server (but
can ping the gateway), but the 98se box can get on the
internet. The other two can't.

All 3 computer can access our network but not the two 98
boxes can't access the internet.

I've tried the ipconfig release/renew commands and still
no luck.

Please help.

  #3  
Old September 29th 04, 03:41 PM
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The two 98's were able to use the internet at our old
location through our proxy server. Now at our new
location we don't use the proxy server.

So you're saying I need to upgrade these two to SE? Am I
understanding correctly?

-----Original Message-----
My understanding is that Win98 did not support ICS until

SE was released.

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_______________________________________
Sandi - Microsoft MVP since 1999 (IE/OE)
http://inetexplorer.mvps.org/



Tony Sengsourya wrote:
We have two 98 and one 98se boxes. Those 3 are in a

work
group. The rest of our computers are in a domain.

None of the three 98 boxes can ping the dns server (but
can ping the gateway), but the 98se box can get on the
internet. The other two can't.

All 3 computer can access our network but not the two

98
boxes can't access the internet.

I've tried the ipconfig release/renew commands and

still
no luck.

Please help.

.

  #4  
Old September 30th 04, 12:08 PM
Sandi - Microsoft MVP
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Ok, 'now' you tell me that this is a 'new' location - obviously this also
means a 'new' network.

Have you searched for an aberrant HOSTS file?

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_______________________________________
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wrote in message
...
The two 98's were able to use the internet at our old
location through our proxy server. Now at our new
location we don't use the proxy server.

So you're saying I need to upgrade these two to SE? Am I
understanding correctly?

-----Original Message-----
My understanding is that Win98 did not support ICS until

SE was released.

--
Hyperlinks are used to ensure advice remains current
_______________________________________
Sandi - Microsoft MVP since 1999 (IE/OE)
http://inetexplorer.mvps.org/



Tony Sengsourya wrote:
We have two 98 and one 98se boxes. Those 3 are in a

work
group. The rest of our computers are in a domain.

None of the three 98 boxes can ping the dns server (but
can ping the gateway), but the 98se box can get on the
internet. The other two can't.

All 3 computer can access our network but not the two

98
boxes can't access the internet.

I've tried the ipconfig release/renew commands and

still
no luck.

Please help.

.


  #5  
Old September 30th 04, 03:52 PM
Tony Sengsourya
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No, I haven't searched any host files. I don't wouldn't
know what to look for. can you help me with this?

So the here's the whole story with the 98 machines. we
move to another location. as you guessed a new network
was established also. There's a total of three 98's and
one 98se. one of the 98's was a laptop that could access
everything normally, just like the 98se. I just don't
know why these two 98's are haveing problems. If there's
any more info you need to you know or to clear things up.
please let me know. i'm new at this.

thanks for your support.

-----Original Message-----
Ok, 'now' you tell me that this is a 'new' location -

obviously this also
means a 'new' network.

Have you searched for an aberrant HOSTS file?

--
_______________________________________
Hyperlinks used to ensure advice is current
Sandi - Microsoft MVP since 1999 (IE/OE)
http://inetexplorer.mvps.org

wrote in message
...
The two 98's were able to use the internet at our old
location through our proxy server. Now at our new
location we don't use the proxy server.

So you're saying I need to upgrade these two to SE? Am

I
understanding correctly?

-----Original Message-----
My understanding is that Win98 did not support ICS

until
SE was released.

--
Hyperlinks are used to ensure advice remains current
_______________________________________
Sandi - Microsoft MVP since 1999 (IE/OE)
http://inetexplorer.mvps.org/



Tony Sengsourya wrote:
We have two 98 and one 98se boxes. Those 3 are in a

work
group. The rest of our computers are in a domain.

None of the three 98 boxes can ping the dns server

(but
can ping the gateway), but the 98se box can get on

the
internet. The other two can't.

All 3 computer can access our network but not the two

98
boxes can't access the internet.

I've tried the ipconfig release/renew commands and

still
no luck.

Please help.
.


.

  #6  
Old October 2nd 04, 03:26 PM
Sandi - Microsoft MVP
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A HOSTS file is a hidden file (with no extension) that will be in the
c:\windows directory. You can open it using Notepad and see what the
contents are. When you find the HOSTS file on an affected machine, feel free
to posts a copy of its contents to this thread.

--
_______________________________________
Hyperlinks used to ensure advice is current
Sandi - Microsoft MVP since 1999 (IE/OE)
http://inetexplorer.mvps.org

"Tony Sengsourya" wrote in message
...
No, I haven't searched any host files. I don't wouldn't
know what to look for. can you help me with this?

So the here's the whole story with the 98 machines. we
move to another location. as you guessed a new network
was established also. There's a total of three 98's and
one 98se. one of the 98's was a laptop that could access
everything normally, just like the 98se. I just don't
know why these two 98's are haveing problems. If there's
any more info you need to you know or to clear things up.
please let me know. i'm new at this.

thanks for your support.

-----Original Message-----
Ok, 'now' you tell me that this is a 'new' location -

obviously this also
means a 'new' network.

Have you searched for an aberrant HOSTS file?

--
_______________________________________
Hyperlinks used to ensure advice is current
Sandi - Microsoft MVP since 1999 (IE/OE)
http://inetexplorer.mvps.org

wrote in message
...
The two 98's were able to use the internet at our old
location through our proxy server. Now at our new
location we don't use the proxy server.

So you're saying I need to upgrade these two to SE? Am

I
understanding correctly?

-----Original Message-----
My understanding is that Win98 did not support ICS

until
SE was released.

--
Hyperlinks are used to ensure advice remains current
_______________________________________
Sandi - Microsoft MVP since 1999 (IE/OE)
http://inetexplorer.mvps.org/



Tony Sengsourya wrote:
We have two 98 and one 98se boxes. Those 3 are in a
work
group. The rest of our computers are in a domain.

None of the three 98 boxes can ping the dns server

(but
can ping the gateway), but the 98se box can get on

the
internet. The other two can't.

All 3 computer can access our network but not the two
98
boxes can't access the internet.

I've tried the ipconfig release/renew commands and
still
no luck.

Please help.
.


.


  #7  
Old October 13th 04, 10:37 PM
Tony Sengsourya
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All I found was this host file: hosts.sam
It's contents are as follows:
************************************************** ***********
# Copyright (c) 1998 Microsoft Corp.
#
# This is a sample HOSTS file used by Microsoft TCP/IP stack for Windows98
#
# This file contains the mappings of IP addresses to host names. Each
# entry should be kept on an individual line. The IP address should
# be placed in the first column followed by the corresponding host name.
# The IP address and the host name should be separated by at least one
# space.
#
# Additionally, comments (such as these) may be inserted on individual
# lines or following the machine name denoted by a '#' symbol.
#
# For example:
#
# 102.54.94.97 rhino.acme.com # source server
# 38.25.63.10 x.acme.com # x client host

127.0.0.1 localhost
************************************************** ***********

I check the other 98 and 98se that can access the internet. The contents are
the same.

tony


"Sandi - Microsoft MVP" wrote:

A HOSTS file is a hidden file (with no extension) that will be in the
c:\windows directory. You can open it using Notepad and see what the
contents are. When you find the HOSTS file on an affected machine, feel free
to posts a copy of its contents to this thread.

--
_______________________________________
Hyperlinks used to ensure advice is current
Sandi - Microsoft MVP since 1999 (IE/OE)
http://inetexplorer.mvps.org

"Tony Sengsourya" wrote in message
...
No, I haven't searched any host files. I don't wouldn't
know what to look for. can you help me with this?

So the here's the whole story with the 98 machines. we
move to another location. as you guessed a new network
was established also. There's a total of three 98's and
one 98se. one of the 98's was a laptop that could access
everything normally, just like the 98se. I just don't
know why these two 98's are haveing problems. If there's
any more info you need to you know or to clear things up.
please let me know. i'm new at this.

thanks for your support.

-----Original Message-----
Ok, 'now' you tell me that this is a 'new' location -

obviously this also
means a 'new' network.

Have you searched for an aberrant HOSTS file?

--
_______________________________________
Hyperlinks used to ensure advice is current
Sandi - Microsoft MVP since 1999 (IE/OE)
http://inetexplorer.mvps.org

wrote in message
...
The two 98's were able to use the internet at our old
location through our proxy server. Now at our new
location we don't use the proxy server.

So you're saying I need to upgrade these two to SE? Am

I
understanding correctly?

-----Original Message-----
My understanding is that Win98 did not support ICS

until
SE was released.

--
Hyperlinks are used to ensure advice remains current
_______________________________________
Sandi - Microsoft MVP since 1999 (IE/OE)
http://inetexplorer.mvps.org/



Tony Sengsourya wrote:
We have two 98 and one 98se boxes. Those 3 are in a
work
group. The rest of our computers are in a domain.

None of the three 98 boxes can ping the dns server

(but
can ping the gateway), but the 98se box can get on

the
internet. The other two can't.

All 3 computer can access our network but not the two
98
boxes can't access the internet.

I've tried the ipconfig release/renew commands and
still
no luck.

Please help.
.


.



  #8  
Old October 13th 04, 10:39 PM
Tony Sengsourya
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Default

This is the hosts file I found - HOSTS.SAM
It's contents are as follows:

************************************************** ***********
# Copyright (c) 1998 Microsoft Corp.
#
# This is a sample HOSTS file used by Microsoft TCP/IP stack for Windows98
#
# This file contains the mappings of IP addresses to host names. Each
# entry should be kept on an individual line. The IP address should
# be placed in the first column followed by the corresponding host name.
# The IP address and the host name should be separated by at least one
# space.
#
# Additionally, comments (such as these) may be inserted on individual
# lines or following the machine name denoted by a '#' symbol.
#
# For example:
#
# 102.54.94.97 rhino.acme.com # source server
# 38.25.63.10 x.acme.com # x client host

127.0.0.1 localhost
************************************************** ***********

I checked the other 98 & 98se that can access the web and there hosts files
are the same.

tony


"Sandi - Microsoft MVP" wrote:

A HOSTS file is a hidden file (with no extension) that will be in the
c:\windows directory. You can open it using Notepad and see what the
contents are. When you find the HOSTS file on an affected machine, feel free
to posts a copy of its contents to this thread.

--
_______________________________________
Hyperlinks used to ensure advice is current
Sandi - Microsoft MVP since 1999 (IE/OE)
http://inetexplorer.mvps.org

"Tony Sengsourya" wrote in message
...
No, I haven't searched any host files. I don't wouldn't
know what to look for. can you help me with this?

So the here's the whole story with the 98 machines. we
move to another location. as you guessed a new network
was established also. There's a total of three 98's and
one 98se. one of the 98's was a laptop that could access
everything normally, just like the 98se. I just don't
know why these two 98's are haveing problems. If there's
any more info you need to you know or to clear things up.
please let me know. i'm new at this.

thanks for your support.

-----Original Message-----
Ok, 'now' you tell me that this is a 'new' location -

obviously this also
means a 'new' network.

Have you searched for an aberrant HOSTS file?

--
_______________________________________
Hyperlinks used to ensure advice is current
Sandi - Microsoft MVP since 1999 (IE/OE)
http://inetexplorer.mvps.org

wrote in message
...
The two 98's were able to use the internet at our old
location through our proxy server. Now at our new
location we don't use the proxy server.

So you're saying I need to upgrade these two to SE? Am

I
understanding correctly?

-----Original Message-----
My understanding is that Win98 did not support ICS

until
SE was released.

--
Hyperlinks are used to ensure advice remains current
_______________________________________
Sandi - Microsoft MVP since 1999 (IE/OE)
http://inetexplorer.mvps.org/



Tony Sengsourya wrote:
We have two 98 and one 98se boxes. Those 3 are in a
work
group. The rest of our computers are in a domain.

None of the three 98 boxes can ping the dns server

(but
can ping the gateway), but the 98se box can get on

the
internet. The other two can't.

All 3 computer can access our network but not the two
98
boxes can't access the internet.

I've tried the ipconfig release/renew commands and
still
no luck.

Please help.
.


.



  #9  
Old October 16th 04, 11:50 AM
Sandi - Microsoft MVP
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Ok, here is my standard 'page cannot be displayed advice'. Its more
widespread than just checking the hosts file. Good luck.

This is controlled by file type.

Go to My Computer, View, Folder Options, File Type (or Control Panel, Folder
Options depending on your operating system). Search for the affected file
type, highlight it and select edit (or advanced). Turn on the option to
confirm open after download.


--
Hyperlinks are used to ensure advice remains current
_______________________________________
Sandi - Microsoft MVP since 1999 (IE/OE)
http://inetexplorer.mvps.org/




"Tony Sengsourya" Tony wrote in
message
This is the hosts file I found - HOSTS.SAM
It's contents are as follows:

************************************************** ***********
# Copyright (c) 1998 Microsoft Corp.
#
# This is a sample HOSTS file used by Microsoft TCP/IP stack for
Windows98 #
# This file contains the mappings of IP addresses to host names. Each
# entry should be kept on an individual line. The IP address should
# be placed in the first column followed by the corresponding host
name. # The IP address and the host name should be separated by at
least one # space.
#
# Additionally, comments (such as these) may be inserted on individual
# lines or following the machine name denoted by a '#' symbol.
#
# For example:
#
# 102.54.94.97 rhino.acme.com # source server
# 38.25.63.10 x.acme.com # x client host

127.0.0.1 localhost
************************************************** ***********

I checked the other 98 & 98se that can access the web and there hosts
files are the same.

tony


"Sandi - Microsoft MVP" wrote:

A HOSTS file is a hidden file (with no extension) that will be in the
c:\windows directory. You can open it using Notepad and see what the
contents are. When you find the HOSTS file on an affected machine,
feel free to posts a copy of its contents to this thread.

--
_______________________________________
Hyperlinks used to ensure advice is current
Sandi - Microsoft MVP since 1999 (IE/OE)
http://inetexplorer.mvps.org

"Tony Sengsourya" wrote in message
...
No, I haven't searched any host files. I don't wouldn't
know what to look for. can you help me with this?

So the here's the whole story with the 98 machines. we
move to another location. as you guessed a new network
was established also. There's a total of three 98's and
one 98se. one of the 98's was a laptop that could access
everything normally, just like the 98se. I just don't
know why these two 98's are haveing problems. If there's
any more info you need to you know or to clear things up.
please let me know. i'm new at this.

thanks for your support.

-----Original Message-----
Ok, 'now' you tell me that this is a 'new' location -
obviously this also
means a 'new' network.

Have you searched for an aberrant HOSTS file?

--
_______________________________________
Hyperlinks used to ensure advice is current
Sandi - Microsoft MVP since 1999 (IE/OE)
http://inetexplorer.mvps.org

wrote in message
...
The two 98's were able to use the internet at our old
location through our proxy server. Now at our new
location we don't use the proxy server.

So you're saying I need to upgrade these two to SE? Am
I
understanding correctly?

-----Original Message-----
My understanding is that Win98 did not support ICS until SE was
released.

--
Hyperlinks are used to ensure advice remains current
_______________________________________
Sandi - Microsoft MVP since 1999 (IE/OE)
http://inetexplorer.mvps.org/



Tony Sengsourya wrote:
We have two 98 and one 98se boxes. Those 3 are in a
work
group. The rest of our computers are in a domain.

None of the three 98 boxes can ping the dns server
(but
can ping the gateway), but the 98se box can get on
the
internet. The other two can't.

All 3 computer can access our network but not the two
98
boxes can't access the internet.

I've tried the ipconfig release/renew commands and
still
no luck.

Please help.
.


.


  #10  
Old October 18th 04, 03:58 PM
Sandi - Microsoft MVP
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Oops, wrong CRM:

For advice specific to problems with secure sites, have a look at the first
link - for general advice, have a look at the second:

http://inetexplorer.mvps.org/answers2.htm#secure_sites
http://inetexplorer.mvps.org/answers.htm#dns


--
Hyperlinks are used to ensure advice remains current
_______________________________________
Sandi - Microsoft MVP since 1999 (IE/OE)
http://inetexplorer.mvps.org/




"Sandi - Microsoft MVP" wrote in message

Ok, here is my standard 'page cannot be displayed advice'. Its more
widespread than just checking the hosts file. Good luck.

This is controlled by file type.

Go to My Computer, View, Folder Options, File Type (or Control Panel,
Folder Options depending on your operating system). Search for the
affected file type, highlight it and select edit (or advanced). Turn
on the option to confirm open after download.



"Tony Sengsourya" Tony wrote in
message
This is the hosts file I found - HOSTS.SAM
It's contents are as follows:

************************************************** ***********
# Copyright (c) 1998 Microsoft Corp.
#
# This is a sample HOSTS file used by Microsoft TCP/IP stack for
Windows98 #
# This file contains the mappings of IP addresses to host names. Each
# entry should be kept on an individual line. The IP address should
# be placed in the first column followed by the corresponding host
name. # The IP address and the host name should be separated by at
least one # space.
#
# Additionally, comments (such as these) may be inserted on
individual # lines or following the machine name denoted by a '#'
symbol. #
# For example:
#
# 102.54.94.97 rhino.acme.com # source server
# 38.25.63.10 x.acme.com # x client host

127.0.0.1 localhost
************************************************** ***********

I checked the other 98 & 98se that can access the web and there hosts
files are the same.

tony


"Sandi - Microsoft MVP" wrote:

A HOSTS file is a hidden file (with no extension) that will be in
the c:\windows directory. You can open it using Notepad and see
what the contents are. When you find the HOSTS file on an affected
machine, feel free to posts a copy of its contents to this thread.

--
_______________________________________
Hyperlinks used to ensure advice is current
Sandi - Microsoft MVP since 1999 (IE/OE)
http://inetexplorer.mvps.org

"Tony Sengsourya" wrote in
message ...
No, I haven't searched any host files. I don't wouldn't
know what to look for. can you help me with this?

So the here's the whole story with the 98 machines. we
move to another location. as you guessed a new network
was established also. There's a total of three 98's and
one 98se. one of the 98's was a laptop that could access
everything normally, just like the 98se. I just don't
know why these two 98's are haveing problems. If there's
any more info you need to you know or to clear things up.
please let me know. i'm new at this.

thanks for your support.

-----Original Message-----
Ok, 'now' you tell me that this is a 'new' location -
obviously this also
means a 'new' network.

Have you searched for an aberrant HOSTS file?

--
_______________________________________
Hyperlinks used to ensure advice is current
Sandi - Microsoft MVP since 1999 (IE/OE)
http://inetexplorer.mvps.org

wrote in message
...
The two 98's were able to use the internet at our old
location through our proxy server. Now at our new
location we don't use the proxy server.

So you're saying I need to upgrade these two to SE? Am
I
understanding correctly?

-----Original Message-----
My understanding is that Win98 did not support ICS until SE was
released.

--
Hyperlinks are used to ensure advice remains current
_______________________________________
Sandi - Microsoft MVP since 1999 (IE/OE)
http://inetexplorer.mvps.org/



Tony Sengsourya wrote:
We have two 98 and one 98se boxes. Those 3 are in a
work
group. The rest of our computers are in a domain.

None of the three 98 boxes can ping the dns server
(but
can ping the gateway), but the 98se box can get on
the
internet. The other two can't.

All 3 computer can access our network but not the two
98
boxes can't access the internet.

I've tried the ipconfig release/renew commands and
still
no luck.

Please help.
.


.O


 




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